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The Greatest Aggressive Defensive Fighters Of All Time
I'll start us off.
Mike Tyson
Roberto Duran
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The way you have this defined leaves the door wide open...Not sure if I am getting the meaning correct but I would say James Toney and Lennox Lewis
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The way you have this defined leaves the door wide open...Not sure if I am getting the meaning correct but I would say James Toney and Lennox Lewis
Fighters who come forward.
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Offense making a good defense Ice? Glenn johnson has a little of both.alot of pressure but slips and dips alot. And no im not saying he is a great,just popped up.
James Toney,but he really mastered the art of timing a round out.Picked his spots but could lay back alot also.
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Roy Jones Jr.
George Foreman (2nd coming. That X-bow thing was pretty effective. He never went down, which is more that you can say about his first act.)
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Its got to be
Duran
then
Tyson
Roy didn't really use defensive skills offensively, he just used good timing and domination.
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Salvador & 'Finito' Lopez where both great at it Johnny Tapia is another that springs to mind 'The Professor' Azumah Nelson is another one.
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Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
Duran without doubt.
Juan Manuel Marquez i suppose.
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Interesting Topic, I think I know what you mean, so the ones that come to mind immeidately are as follows:
Roberto Duran,
Ruben Olivares,
Manny Pacquiao,
Julio Cesar Chavez,
Azumah Nelson,
and maybe Henry Armstrong.
My understanding is fighters who come forward relentlessly and don't get hit that often?
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Julio Cesar Chavez,
I gotta disagree with both of you on JCC being on the list.
Over the holidays I was watching his career (for like 20th time)
But it's pretty known that JCC was a fighter who was willing to take 2 to 1 shots. Meaning he didn't care if you hit him with 2 shots so as long as he hit you with 1. It showed throughout his career from as early as the 'Azabache' Martinez fight (which is IMO in his top 3 performances) JCC did have defensive skills but more times then often he decided to trade shots without caring much how often he got tagged.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Julio Cesar Chavez,
I gotta disagree with both of you on JCC being on the list.
Over the holidays I was watching his career (for like 20th time)
But it's pretty known that JCC was a fighter who was willing to take 2 to 1 shots. Meaning he didn't care if you hit him with 2 shots so as long as he hit you with 1. It showed throughout his career from as early as the 'Azabache' Martinez fight (which is IMO in his top 3 performances) JCC did have defensive skills but more times then often he decided to trade shots without caring much how often he got tagged.
True enough. However, upon watching some early fights against Medina and ramirez that his head movement was greatly underrated. To a lesser extent he showed a bit in fights like juan la porte.
Have you got all his fights mick?
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Joe Frazier was pretty good at coming foward and making you miss.
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Kostya Tszyu and Johnny Tapia
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Have to throw Marciano in there
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Have to throw Marciano in there
As a defensive fighter?....agressive yes...but Rocky had horrible defense
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Dempsey probably the most come forward guy.Lamotta,Foreman.
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The reason I name these guys is well look at there records maybe not great defensive skills but they should could take a shot.SO there defense was there chin
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Julio Cesar Chavez,
I gotta disagree with both of you on JCC being on the list.
Over the holidays I was watching his career (for like 20th time)
But it's pretty known that JCC was a fighter who was willing to take 2 to 1 shots. Meaning he didn't care if you hit him with 2 shots so as long as he hit you with 1. It showed throughout his career from as early as the 'Azabache' Martinez fight (which is IMO in his top 3 performances) JCC did have defensive skills but more times then often he decided to trade shots without caring much how often he got tagged.
True enough. However, upon watching some early fights against Medina and ramirez that his head movement was greatly underrated. To a lesser extent he showed a bit in fights like juan la porte.
Have you got all his fights mick?
81 out of 115... I don't have a lot of his early fights. :(
From when his career started.
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Felix Trinidad
Mike Tyson
Kelly Pavlik hasnt made his mark as an all time great yet but he will
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Mike Tyson and could a case be made for Naz because he was a come forward fighter aggressive great punch power and a good defence
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Julio Cesar Chavez,
I gotta disagree with both of you on JCC being on the list.
Over the holidays I was watching his career (for like 20th time)
But it's pretty known that JCC was a fighter who was willing to take 2 to 1 shots. Meaning he didn't care if you hit him with 2 shots so as long as he hit you with 1. It showed throughout his career from as early as the 'Azabache' Martinez fight (which is IMO in his top 3 performances) JCC did have defensive skills but more times then often he decided to trade shots without caring much how often he got tagged.
True enough. However, upon watching some early fights against Medina and ramirez that his head movement was greatly underrated. To a lesser extent he showed a bit in fights like juan la porte.
Have you got all his fights mick?
81 out of 115... I don't have a lot of his early fights. :(
From when his career started.
Wow, thats great! Do you mind me asking where you got them all?
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Julio Cesar Chavez,
I gotta disagree with both of you on JCC being on the list.
Over the holidays I was watching his career (for like 20th time)
But it's pretty known that JCC was a fighter who was willing to take 2 to 1 shots. Meaning he didn't care if you hit him with 2 shots so as long as he hit you with 1. It showed throughout his career from as early as the 'Azabache' Martinez fight (which is IMO in his top 3 performances) JCC did have defensive skills but more times then often he decided to trade shots without caring much how often he got tagged.
True enough. However, upon watching some early fights against Medina and ramirez that his head movement was greatly underrated. To a lesser extent he showed a bit in fights like juan la porte.
Have you got all his fights mick?
81 out of 115... I don't have a lot of his early fights. :(
From when his career started.
Wow, thats great! Do you mind me asking where you got them all?
I got almost all of them thru my uncles they would record his fights on VHS some other ones I've downloaded from the internet.
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Marvin Hagler was underrated for his defensive skills
but Marvin had the advantage of not always having to use them as he had one of the strongest chins in history
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Marvin Hagler was underrated for his defensive skills
but Marvin had the advantage of not always having to use them as he had one of the strongest chins in history
Good one in his early career he was actually pretty slick and had some good boxing skills.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Cuchulain
Julio Caesar Chavez underrated in this respect.
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Originally Posted by The Wind
Julio Cesar Chavez,
I gotta disagree with both of you on JCC being on the list.
Over the holidays I was watching his career (for like 20th time)
But it's pretty known that JCC was a fighter who was willing to take 2 to 1 shots. Meaning he didn't care if you hit him with 2 shots so as long as he hit you with 1. It showed throughout his career from as early as the 'Azabache' Martinez fight (which is IMO in his top 3 performances) JCC did have defensive skills but more times then often he decided to trade shots without caring much how often he got tagged.
True enough. However, upon watching some early fights against Medina and ramirez that his head movement was greatly underrated. To a lesser extent he showed a bit in fights like juan la porte.
Have you got all his fights mick?
81 out of 115... I don't have a lot of his early fights. :(
From when his career started.
Wow, thats great! Do you mind me asking where you got them all?
I got almost all of them thru my uncles they would record his fights on VHS some other ones I've downloaded from the internet.
Thats really great Mick, cool.
I'm really interested in Him and Duran at the moment. I guess I aspire to box like them and I watching the limited supply I can get my hands on at the moment.
