Will we ever see Ricky Hatton fight Amir Khan?

Ok I know it's still a little soon to talk of this seeing as Amir hasn't even won a European title yet but I imagine if Amir progresses in 08 as much as he did in 07 the clamour for a domestic showdown could really be building in 2009.

Hatton says he has 5 more fights which will probably mean retirement in 2010 and by then Khan should be close to his prime.

He looks an absolute monster at lightweight and I can't see him being able to stay there for all that much longer, my guess is after this coming year he'll move up to light welter.

This for me is the biggest domestic fight in boxing. The two most popular mainstream fighters in British boxing since Frank Bruno and Henry Cooper I can't imagine a bigger fight in the UK than this.

Do you think it will happen? I really hope so.

I also think if they meet any time after 2009 that Khan will do to Hatton what Lennox Lewis did to Gary Mason and Frank Bruno.

Fingers crossed that this fight happens cos I'd fucking love to see it!

Khan's a good prospect but I do have to say I find it funny how he much better he got in one fight. After the Limond fight he was a chinless wonder waiting to get knocked out by middling opposition and now he's the best prospect in boxing.

BTW not necessarily saying you, I have no idea what you've said about Khan in the past, for all I know you've been high on him the whole time. But it is kind of funny how quickly things can change.

As for the fight though Khan does seem big for the weight so a move to 140 is probably likely. Would Warren be willing to step up Khan up that much in the next 2 or so years?

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Khan's a good prospect but I do have to say I find it funny how he much better he got in one fight. After the Limond fight he was a chinless wonder waiting to get knocked out by middling opposition and now he's the best prospect in boxing.

BTW not necessarily saying you, I have no idea what you've said about Khan in the past, for all I know you've been high on him the whole time. But it is kind of funny how quickly things can change.

As for the fight though Khan does seem big for the weight so a move to 140 is probably likely. Would Warren be willing to step up Khan up that much in the next 2 or so years?

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haha yeah I've been the lone guy up front on the Khan bandwagon for most of 07. I made a post after the Limond victory about how he showed great heart and a fighters insitinct to overcome adversity and destroy his opponent after being put down but most people laughed at me.

I'm used to such displays of ridicule when I post though ::**

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Khan's a good prospect but I do have to say I find it funny how he much better he got in one fight. After the Limond fight he was a chinless wonder waiting to get knocked out by middling opposition and now he's the best prospect in boxing.

BTW not necessarily saying you, I have no idea what you've said about Khan in the past, for all I know you've been high on him the whole time. But it is kind of funny how quickly things can change.

As for the fight though Khan does seem big for the weight so a move to 140 is probably likely. Would Warren be willing to step up Khan up that much in the next 2 or so years?

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haha yeah I've been the lone guy up front on the Khan bandwagon for most of 07. I made a post after the Limond victory about how he showed great heart and a fighters insitinct to overcome adversity and destroy his opponent after being put down but most people laughed at me.

I'm used to such displays of ridicule when I post though ::**

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No you haven't. I've been chilling out on that very same bandwagon throught 06 & 07 handing 'told you so's' where i deemed it appropriate (every time he won)

I don't think Warren will ever put him in with Hatton unless there is absolutely no chance of Hatton winning......and if it ever gets that bad for Hatton, he'll hang em up beforehand.

I don't think we'll hear much from Hatton after his next loss

And who do you thinks gonna deal this next loss to Ricky then Vd?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't think we'll hear much from Hatton after his next loss

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I think we may well see this fight in two or three years. Warren would be the biggest obsticle, but the money involved might be much that all sides can reach a compromise. Khan is clearly destined for 140 and probably 147 at some point and it would be a huge fight.

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Originally Posted by gally

And who do you thinks gonna deal this next loss to Ricky then Vd?

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If he fights Witter next, he loses. Before I would of picked Hatton to win, but not no more. I now think Witter takes him now. If he fights Maglinaggi next he loses. Again, before I would of picked Hatton to easily crush him. But based on his recent comments and non-stop crying it's obvious Hatton has taken the Mayweather loss real hard. I think Paulie's slap and run style will beat him. If he fights De La Hoya he'll get murder. Simple as that.

This fight would be funkin MAHOOSIVE over here.. it's got to have been talked about as a possible for the near future

In answer to the question, I reckon that unfortunately, Warren is going to keep bringing on Khan slowly, much slower than Khan would probably like, and that their careers will miss each other by a year or two in the end.

However, if Khan ever makes it to a really high level...what odds on him tempting Ricky out of retirement for a huge fight?

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Originally Posted by gally

And who do you thinks gonna deal this next loss to Ricky then Vd?

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If he fights Witter next, he loses. Before I would of picked Hatton to win, but not no more. I now think Witter takes him now. If he fights Maglinaggi next he loses. Again, before I would of picked Hatton to easily crush him. But based on his recent comments and non-stop crying it's obvious Hatton has taken the Mayweather loss real hard. I think Paulie's slap and run style will beat him. If he fights De La Hoya he'll get murder. Simple as that.

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As for Witter, I really don't see him having the speed to do to Hatton what he did to Harris. Witter likes a slow paced fight, and likes to measure all his shots, and I don't think he'd deal as well as Mayweather did with Hatton's swarming attacks.

It will never happen, Hatton will only fight two maybe three more times and Khan isn't going to be one of them. Put Khan in with the K-Man Katsidis and see what happens!!! Warren won't let that happen either!

I think how quickly Khan comes through depends on Diaz. If Diaz is still around at 135 for the next year or so Khan will not reach that level in my opinion although I do see him as a future 135, 140 World champion.

Khan Katsidis would be great but I do not see that happening for a whilst yet, if at all.

As for Khan v Hatton I will be surprised if this comes off but if there is any chance Khan could win then I think Warren would go for it to get one over Ricky for leaving him. Just my 2 cents. Khan already has longer reach, a height advantage and will not stop growing until he is 21. He will be even bigger then and more filled out.

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

In answer to the question, I reckon that unfortunately, Warren is going to keep bringing on Khan slowly, much slower than Khan would probably like, and that their careers will miss each other by a year or two in the end.

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He's only been a pro two years and he's already the Commonwealth champ! Providing he doesn't lose he'll be British and European champ for this year and then a world title would be likely in 2009.

He wants his shot before July to beat Naz's youngest every British world champ record so it may even be possible that should a miracle occur and Gavin Rees actually wins his upcoming title defense Khan may get a shot at him.

Yes I believe it will happen as Frank has been approaching Ricky.
That guy is a master planner and I'd say he's thinking ahead.

To be honest Kahn and Hatton are pretty good mates and i'd get the impression that they wouldn't really be that 'up' for fighting eachother......especially when there are tonnes of other options out there.

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

In answer to the question, I reckon that unfortunately, Warren is going to keep bringing on Khan slowly, much slower than Khan would probably like, and that their careers will miss each other by a year or two in the end.

However, if Khan ever makes it to a really high level...what odds on him tempting Ricky out of retirement for a huge fight?

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I vote the 'Hatton out of retirement to fight Khan' as well. Neither Warren nor Khan would like to get in with Hatton in the immediate future. Sure, perhaps if Hatton actually loses his next fight or two - but then, he will not be the super draw he is now anyway.

But a fight in, say, 2011, when Khan is an established world name, perhaps coming off his first loss, and Hatton has been out of the ring for 18 months - that would make helluva lot of sense.

(Only problem is that with Hatton's usual bulk up between fights, he is quite likely to go the the Naz way after actually retiring. No way he will be fighting below 147 at least.)

Will reserve judgment till I see Ricky in the ring again - how much of him has been left behind in the ring in the MGM is the big question for me. Will he still be around in two years if he sufferes a bad loss again ??


And as for Khan - I see him getting beaten sooner rather than later.

Maybe after they are no longer threats on the world stage (Khan has yet to prove he is a threat) the two will cash in on a mega British showdown - Hatton for his final pay day and Khan for his biggest career payday which will set him up nicely.

Thats the only way I see this happening

they are good freinds are they?

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

they are good freinds are they?

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they seem to be

i know kahn has been down to ricky's gym to train with him and he goes to Ricky's fights to cheer him on. They always have great things to say about each other so i'd presume they are.....


unless anybody else knows any different that is.

I will agree with VD on the fact all this talk from Ricky on how he is dealing with the loss makes you question his mental state....In another fight will he start to break down the moment he is in a bit of turmoil?....If he is OK and is able to deal with the loss mental wise...Kahn has no chance anytime soon

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Originally Posted by ono

To be honest Kahn and Hatton are pretty good mates and i'd get the impression that they wouldn't really be that 'up' for fighting eachother......especially when there are tonnes of other options out there.

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So what your saying is Hatton will duck Con, right?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by ono

To be honest Kahn and Hatton are pretty good mates and i'd get the impression that they wouldn't really be that 'up' for fighting eachother......especially when there are tonnes of other options out there.

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So what your saying is Hatton will duck Con, right?

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ignorance is bliss.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

In answer to the question, I reckon that unfortunately, Warren is going to keep bringing on Khan slowly, much slower than Khan would probably like, and that their careers will miss each other by a year or two in the end.

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He's only been a pro two years and he's already the Commonwealth champ! Providing he doesn't lose he'll be British and European champ for this year and then a world title would be likely in 2009.

He wants his shot before July to beat Naz's youngest every British world champ record so it may even be possible that should a miracle occur and Gavin Rees actually wins his upcoming title defense Khan may get a shot at him.

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Never gonna happen. Who knows....Warren might have put a clause in the contract that if Kotelnik wins he has to fight Khan in London first. If that's the case, its a sneaky underhand way to get a world champ.

Khan is nowhere near hatton's level. I think Hatton will fight Paulie, and maybe a no name fighter. he could fight Ricky after that, but i still think he would be destroyed. As for anyone saying witter would beat hatton - it aint even close.

As a big Ricky fan I have to say, it is close. Ricky's confidence has been severely knocked and he's gone on a bender in Tenerife. I'm not sure if Ricky will be back renewed and better than ever :( I hope I'm proven wrong though.

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Originally Posted by ono

To be honest Kahn and Hatton are pretty good mates and i'd get the impression that they wouldn't really be that 'up' for fighting eachother......especially when there are tonnes of other options out there.

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So what your saying is Hatton will duck Con, right?

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No am saying i don't think either fighter will particularly want the fight.

Kahn won't be ready for maybe another 18 months and even then Warren won't risk putting his money-train in with Hatton until he is absolutely certain he won't lose. Imagine the embarassment if he lost (considering the history with Warren and Hatton).

So yeh the only chance of a possible fight is when Hatton is well past his best.....and by that time i think he would be smart enough to hang em up anyway, so i can't see it happening.

I think people are going way over the top on this Khan hype. He is a good prospect and has some skills, but to say he could even compete with someone like Hatton who is a monster at 140 is far too premature, Khan has already been down twice in his career from fighters who can't crack an egg. His chin is still a big question mark and all of his opponent's so far have been slow plodding feather fisted opponents, or have been scared and fought pathetically. I give Khan credit for the Earl victory but even Earl looked completely shot IMO.

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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing

I think people are going way over the top on this Khan hype. He is a good prospect and has some skills, but to say he could even compete with someone like Hatton who is a monster at 140 is far too premature, Khan has already been down twice in his career from fighters who can't crack an egg. His chin is still a big question mark and all of his opponent's so far have been slow plodding feather fisted opponents, or have been scared and fought pathetically. I give Khan credit for the Earl victory but even Earl looked completely shot IMO.

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I don't think you can come to the conclusion that a fighter is shot when the fight barely lasted a minute.

I think he got caught cold personally.

I never really rated earl to begin with tbh. He only beat Romanov because Romanov was so ring rusty and poor.

His prospective match up with Tahxton is off the cards for some reason (Kahn withdrew from pursebids according to sky sports.)

Khan is an absolute monster at lightweight. Assuming he stays undefeated, by 2010, Amir Khan will be the next big thing at welterweight and the biggest non-heavyweight star if Floyd isn't fighting by then. He has the height and body of a welterweight and I think that he'd probably carry his power up with him. Honestly, if he fights over here in the states I could see him being bigger than Hamed, Pacquiao, AND Hatton. I think that his drawing power would rival someone like Floyd Mayweather's. Speaking of Floyd, Warren has a future cash cow on his hands with Khan, he needs to model what Arum did with Floyd at 130 and raise Amir Khan's level of opposition but he doesn't need to put him in with any truly elite fighters for another year or two. Floyd fought Genaro when he was 17-0 for his first WBC title, Amir is on his way.

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Originally Posted by albsur2006

Khan is an absolute monster at lightweight. Assuming he stays undefeated, by 2010, Amir Khan will be the next big thing at welterweight and the biggest non-heavyweight star if Floyd isn't fighting by then. He has the height and body of a welterweight and I think that he'd probably carry his power up with him. Honestly, if he fights over here in the states I could see him being bigger than Hamed, Pacquiao, AND Hatton. I think that his drawing power would rival someone like Floyd Mayweather's. Speaking of Floyd, Warren has a future cash cow on his hands with Khan, he needs to model what Arum did with Floyd at 130 and raise Amir Khan's level of opposition but he doesn't need to put him in with any truly elite fighters for another year or two. Floyd fought Genaro when he was 17-0 for his first WBC title, Amir is on his way.

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Holy Frijoles! That is a big wrap for Khan, I wouldn't let him anywhere near Hatton at 140 for the next 12 months. Now The K Man Katsidis V Khan would be great.