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"The Hatton people were in New York visiting with HBO and the fighter they mentioned prominently as someone they wanted to fight at the end of the year, was Manny Pacquiao." (Arum talking)_
If Pacquiao gets by Marquez on March 15, he would move up in weight to 135-pounds to challenge David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title. The Diaz fight would probably happen in June/July. If he beats Diaz, the next step would be Hatton.
What a fwooking joke.IF Hatton takes this fight,it's pathetic. Fighting a former FLYWEIGHT.Whos' first and probably ONLY fight at 140 will be Hatton. Ricky has made enough money to be comfortable (surely?) and has far more worthy challengers like Witter and Paulie.
As for Manny,talk about SKIMMING divisions.This is THE perfect example of when someone talks about jumping weights and winning titles,and saying you're a mutiple weight champ,does not always look as good as it sounds. David Diaz?In a division where there are guys like Kats,Cas,Juan Diaz.
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This would in fact be a disgrace should it ever happen, however I am hopeful that it probably won't.
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
This would in fact be a disgrace should it ever happen, however I am hopeful that it probably won't.
Im hoping Manny loses to JMM because I don't see David Diaz beating him.Diavid Diaz is and has been an average fighter with lots of determination.Nothing more and nothing less.Ricky will probably take a tune up,in Britain beforehand.I can't believe this fight is going to happen if they win?!Manny has so many other fights he can take which are more winnable/have more significance/more exciting:Juan Diaz,Valero,Guzman etc etc.
COME ON JMM!!! >:mad >:mad
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Yeah I'm wondering if Floyd did ruin Hatton permanently or not. What a travesty. Credit to Manny if he should try and fight Hatton, but shame on Ricky if he does this when there are other guys to fight, like Witter or Paulie. And I am starting to hope Diaz gets to Hatton 1st, as I don't think Ricky can beat him. I don't think Manny will get past JMM though. Hatton will be calling out Arce sooner or later :laugh:
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"The Hatton people were in New York visiting with HBO and the fighter they mentioned prominently as someone they wanted to fight at the end of the year, was Manny Pacquiao." (Arum talking)_
If Pacquiao gets by Marquez on March 15, he would move up in weight to 135-pounds to challenge David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title. The Diaz fight would probably happen in June/July. If he beats Diaz, the next step would be Hatton.
What a fwooking joke.IF Hatton takes this fight,it's pathetic. Fighting a former FLYWEIGHT.Whos' first and probably ONLY fight at 140 will be Hatton. Ricky has made enough money to be comfortable (surely?) and has far more worthy challengers like Witter and Paulie.
As for Manny,talk about SKIMMING divisions.This is THE perfect example of when someone talks about jumping weights and winning titles,and saying you're a mutiple weight champ,does not always look as good as it sounds. David Diaz?In a division where there are guys like Kats,Cas,Juan Diaz.
Yea man I agree with you all the way on this one. Im not going to lie and say a Hatton Pac matchup wouldn't excite me, but it's more because of the fact it would be a big event. And you know, it's not Pac wanting to move up in weight that bothers me either.. I mean David Diaz is mediocre, so beating him at lightweight should garner Manny no credit... But jumping up to 140 and actually beating Hatton would be a hell of an achievement, noone could say he got that done the easy way.. However, the main thing here is that both of these guys have more than worthy challengers their own size, and their own weight class to clean up. Pac is fighting Marquez again, so he's on a better track than Hatton for sure, but I still want to see him fight Guzman before he leaves 130.. Or if they both move to 135 it could happen there. I do have my doubts that it will ever happen though, Guzman just isn't popular enough. I don't expect Pac to ever fight Valero either, but I can accept that.. The guy isn't even allowed to fight in the US, and only the most hardcore fans have seen him fight.. It's hardly as though Pac will face scrutiny for not fighting Valero in Japan, or wherever.. If Pac want's to move up in weight for a superfight, he needs to look no further than Juan Diaz. Or I guess Nate Campbell since he's a very dangerous guy and could beat Diaz. As I'm typing this, I get the sense that Pac would have his ass handed to him on a platter by either of those guys at 135. I really think Campbell would hurt him badly. But that just illustrates how ridiculous it is to fight at 140, Manny has bulked up to get where he is now, and he doesn't have the kind of skills that can overcome a big disparity in size and strength, the way Mayweather does. He would give up all his strength's at 140 imo. It would be extremely pathetic for Hatton to avoid negotiations with other fighters in hopes that little Manny will move up and fight him. That's what stands out the most to me.
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
I heard a rumour Hatton is planning on fighting Steve Forbes in Britain.
He's under Golden Boy now Hatton and his camp are speaking to HBO so that they televise Ricky's next fight in Britain whoever it is against.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"The Hatton people were in New York visiting with HBO and the fighter they mentioned prominently as someone they wanted to fight at the end of the year, was Manny Pacquiao." (Arum talking)_
If Pacquiao gets by Marquez on March 15, he would move up in weight to 135-pounds to challenge David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title. The Diaz fight would probably happen in June/July. If he beats Diaz, the next step would be Hatton.
What a fwooking joke.IF Hatton takes this fight,it's pathetic. Fighting a former FLYWEIGHT.Whos' first and probably ONLY fight at 140 will be Hatton. Ricky has made enough money to be comfortable (surely?) and has far more worthy challengers like Witter and Paulie.
As for Manny,talk about SKIMMING divisions.This is THE perfect example of when someone talks about jumping weights and winning titles,and saying you're a mutiple weight champ,does not always look as good as it sounds. David Diaz?In a division where there are guys like Kats,Cas,Juan Diaz.
Yea man I agree with you all the way on this one. Im not going to lie and say a Hatton Pac matchup wouldn't excite me, but it's more because of the fact it would be a big event. And you know, it's not Pac wanting to move up in weight that bothers me either.. I mean David Diaz is mediocre, so beating him at lightweight should garner Manny no credit... But jumping up to 140 and actually beating Hatton would be a hell of an achievement, noone could say he got that done the easy way.. However, the main thing here is that both of these guys have more than worthy challengers their own size, and their own weight class to clean up. Pac is fighting Marquez again, so he's on a better track than Hatton for sure, but I still want to see him fight Guzman before he leaves 130.. Or if they both move to 135 it could happen there. I do have my doubts that it will ever happen though, Guzman just isn't popular enough. I don't expect Pac to ever fight Valero either, but I can accept that.. The guy isn't even allowed to fight in the US, and only the most hardcore fans have seen him fight.. It's hardly as though Pac will face scrutiny for not fighting Valero in Japan, or wherever.. If Pac want's to move up in weight for a superfight, he needs to look no further than Juan Diaz. Or I guess Nate Campbell since he's a very dangerous guy and could beat Diaz. As I'm typing this, I get the sense that Pac would have his ass handed to him on a platter by either of those guys at 135. I really think Campbell would hurt him badly. But that just illustrates how ridiculous it is to fight at 140, Manny has bulked up to get where he is now, and he doesn't have the kind of skills that can overcome a big disparity in size and strength, the way Mayweather does. He would give up all his strength's at 140 imo. It would be extremely pathetic for Hatton to avoid negotiations with other fighters in hopes that little Manny will move up and fight him. That's what stands out the most to me.
Fricking awesome post,Coooool Click on me bro'. :laugh: 8) The best point is exactly what I'm saying:they both have FAR more worthy challengers in and around their weight classes.Campbell is another guy,exactly and I totally agree,a win over Diaz is not that great a win at all. Great posting my man.
And yeah,it would be a great "event" but we already have 1 event whore,Oscar. I don't need anymore.I want to see the best fights made.
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I heard a rumour Hatton is planning on fighting Steve Forbes in Britain.
He's under Golden Boy now Hatton and his camp are speaking to HBO so that they televise Ricky's next fight in Britain whoever it is against.
That would probably be the tune up fight I was alluding to earlier, at the beginning of the year.
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Yeah I'm wondering if Floyd did ruin Hatton permanently or not. What a travesty. Credit to Manny if he should try and fight Hatton, but shame on Ricky if he does this when there are other guys to fight, like Witter or Paulie. And I am starting to hope Diaz gets to Hatton 1st, as I don't think Ricky can beat him. I don't think Manny will get past JMM though. Hatton will be calling out Arce sooner or later :laugh:
:D :D :D :D
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
This would in fact be a disgrace should it ever happen, however I am hopeful that it probably won't.
Im hoping Manny loses to JMM because I don't see David Diaz beating him.Diavid Diaz is and has been an average fighter with lots of determination.Nothing more and nothing less.Ricky will probably take a tune up,in Britain beforehand.I can't believe this fight is going to happen if they win?!Manny has so many other fights he can take which are more winnable/have more significance/more exciting:Juan Diaz,Valero,Guzman etc etc.
COME ON JMM!!! >:mad >:mad
i'm willing to take any kind of bet with you and legion. (like taking candy from a baby lol.)
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Originally Posted by KKisser
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
This would in fact be a disgrace should it ever happen, however I am hopeful that it probably won't.
Im hoping Manny loses to JMM because I don't see David Diaz beating him.Diavid Diaz is and has been an average fighter with lots of determination.Nothing more and nothing less.Ricky will probably take a tune up,in Britain beforehand.I can't believe this fight is going to happen if they win?!Manny has so many other fights he can take which are more winnable/have more significance/more exciting:Juan Diaz,Valero,Guzman etc etc.
COME ON JMM!!! >:mad >:mad
i'm willing to take any kind of bet with you and legion. (like taking candy from a baby lol.)
Heart:Wants JMM to win badly. Head:Manny. Head usually wins,so I'm predicting Manny on points but I want JMM to win bad.
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Meanwhile Mayweather waits patiently, for his next superfight opponent, Pacman, for June 2009.
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LOL...Someone has no sense of humor I guess and had to SC me. Don't forget to give me one tomorrow too.
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I guess I'm in the minority who wouldn't mind seeing this. Seriously, what big fights are there for Hatton at 140 except guys moving up in weight? I know some want to see him fight Witter or Malignaggi, but let's face it, boxing is like anything else...it's about the $$$ and those two guys don't bring it. I actually think it could be an entertaining bout. Manny probably won't bring his power up to 140, but with his quickness and hand speed I could see him giving Hatton some problems and a good fight.
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Seriously, guys, I know as fans we know about fighters like Witter and Malignaggi and want to see those match-ups, but fighters have a limited shelf life and need to make as much money as they can. A fight with Pacman dwarfs any purse Hatton could make with anyone at 140. It's hardly "pathetic" to take on the most economically viable opponent, especially when the dollars and cents are dramatically different from what he could get fighting guys already at 140. Honestly, Hatton will have to fight guys coming up in weight to get big fights (possible exception is Victor Ortiz, but he'll have to get a few more wins under his belt before he is economically viable). I suspect he'll eventually fight Juan Diaz, and I think that'd be a hell of a fight. Maybe Katsidis too if Kats can keep his momentum going.
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Seriously, guys, I know as fans we know about fighters like Witter and Malignaggi and want to see those match-ups, but fighters have a limited shelf life and need to make as much money as they can. A fight with Pacman dwarfs any purse Hatton could make with anyone at 140. It's hardly "pathetic" to take on the most economically viable opponent, especially when the dollars and cents are dramatically different from what he could get fighting guys already at 140. Honestly, Hatton will have to fight guys coming up in weight to get big fights (possible exception is Victor Ortiz, but he'll have to get a few more wins under his belt before he is economically viable). I suspect he'll eventually fight Juan Diaz, and I think that'd be a hell of a fight. Maybe Katsidis too if Kats can keep his momentum going.
Manny and Hatton have already made tons of money. What about the guys waiting in the wings, solid fighters trying to score a big name opponent to give themselves a good purse and make their name bigger? Hatton and Pacman were not big names at one time also, but someone gave them a shot. This is what is wrong with boxing. Everyone seems to be out for taking the easy ride, instead of proving their worth.
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Hatton needs to stop looking for an easy fight and get in there with Witter and Paulie and unifie Jr welterweight and Pacman needs to wake the fuck up at 140 he will get fucking destroyed by Hatton his body would get ripped to fuck and he'd want outta there after a couple of rounds. If he beats JMM he needs to fight Guzman and Juan Diaz rather than chasing the $$$. Fact is he looked aweful against Barrera who wasnt exactly at his peak and imo lost to JMM first time round so moving up to fight one of the very best LWW is just crazy talk.
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Seriously, guys, I know as fans we know about fighters like Witter and Malignaggi and want to see those match-ups, but fighters have a limited shelf life and need to make as much money as they can. A fight with Pacman dwarfs any purse Hatton could make with anyone at 140. It's hardly "pathetic" to take on the most economically viable opponent, especially when the dollars and cents are dramatically different from what he could get fighting guys already at 140. Honestly, Hatton will have to fight guys coming up in weight to get big fights (possible exception is Victor Ortiz, but he'll have to get a few more wins under his belt before he is economically viable). I suspect he'll eventually fight Juan Diaz, and I think that'd be a hell of a fight. Maybe Katsidis too if Kats can keep his momentum going.
Manny and Hatton have already made tons of money. What about the guys waiting in the wings, solid fighters trying to score a big name opponent to give themselves a good purse and make their name bigger? Hatton and Pacman were not big names at one time also, but someone gave them a shot. This is what is wrong with boxing. Everyone seems to be out for taking the easy ride, instead of proving their worth.
CC for ya, good point and very true... I will say I can understand why a fighter with a fast paced rugged style would chase the biggest money fights first and foremost... However, when two weight classes and about 10 other deserving contenders or champions stand in the way, it's becomes a shame for the sport that fight's like this are discussed. And it's not just the fact that it could possibly happen, what bothers me about it all is that it is planned out ahead of time, when Pac still has a megafight in front of him, and has never fought above 130 in his life. How the hell can this really be in the works when noone knows how Pac would fair at lightweight ??? I mean it's not inconceivable that Manny will move up and become a great lightweight. It's a long shot imo, I couldn't see him beating Diaz for the life of me... But, if it happens, then more power to him, and the sport. Not to mention that a Hatton Pacquiao fight would be a WAY bigger fight, should Pac prove he is a legitimate lightweight(and no, beating David Diaz doesn't prove this). IF he does succeed at 135, THEN Hatton and his camp should be looking towards getting the fight made. Not to mention by the time Pac would have beaten Marquez and Diaz, Hatton could have taken on Witter or Maglinaggi. At this point though, the fact that the fight is in the works, is pathetic... It simply allows each fighter to avoid the real threats, and waste months and months with nothing but a soft touch tune up type fight to hype this farce.
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Hatton needs to stop looking for an easy fight and get in there with Witter and Paulie and unifie Jr welterweight and Pacman needs to wake the fuck up at 140 he will get fucking destroyed by Hatton his body would get ripped to fuck and he'd want outta there after a couple of rounds. If he beats JMM he needs to fight Guzman and Juan Diaz rather than chasing the $$$. Fact is he looked aweful against Barrera who wasnt exactly at his peak and imo lost to JMM first time round so moving up to fight one of the very best LWW is just crazy talk.
Amen to that. It is at the point of being just plain stupid now. The reason we see the UFC gaining fans is because of the obvious corrupted money game boxing has become. 2007 was a year of promise with good matchups like Cotto/Mosley, Pavlik/Miranda, Pavlik/Taylor, Calzaghe/Kessler...etc. All this weight jumping is just sad and Hatton and Pacman should be ashamed of themselves for being sellouts. Yes I said it!
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Seriously, guys, I know as fans we know about fighters like Witter and Malignaggi and want to see those match-ups, but fighters have a limited shelf life and need to make as much money as they can. A fight with Pacman dwarfs any purse Hatton could make with anyone at 140. It's hardly "pathetic" to take on the most economically viable opponent, especially when the dollars and cents are dramatically different from what he could get fighting guys already at 140. Honestly, Hatton will have to fight guys coming up in weight to get big fights (possible exception is Victor Ortiz, but he'll have to get a few more wins under his belt before he is economically viable). I suspect he'll eventually fight Juan Diaz, and I think that'd be a hell of a fight. Maybe Katsidis too if Kats can keep his momentum going.
Manny and Hatton have already made tons of money. What about the guys waiting in the wings, solid fighters trying to score a big name opponent to give themselves a good purse and make their name bigger? Hatton and Pacman were not big names at one time also, but someone gave them a shot. This is what is wrong with boxing. Everyone seems to be out for taking the easy ride, instead of proving their worth.
I see what you're saying, but honestly Pacman and Hatton don't owe it to anybody to take significantly less money to fight worthy but not economically viable contenders. They owe it to themselves and their families to take the biggest fights available. It's true that top guys gave them their shots, but only after each made themselves top money draws. Kostya went to England to fight Hatton because Hatton had become big in the UK and therefore promised a big purse for him in return. And let's not pretend that Hatton and Pacman duck anyone...both have fought tough competition. I mean, Hatton called out PBF when no one gave him a prayer of winning. Hatton probably gets 8 figures to fight Pacman...what does he get by fighting Paulie? $3 or $4 million? He probably triples that amount or better by taking on Pacman. And, honestly, I don't think it's necessarily a mismatch. I'd expect Roach to train Pacman to fight a stick and move sort of fight, taking advantage of his foot/hand speed, and if he were to stick to that gameplan and not let Hatton turn things into a brawl I could see Pacman winning a decision. I think it'd be a pretty cracking affair, honestly.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Seriously, guys, I know as fans we know about fighters like Witter and Malignaggi and want to see those match-ups, but fighters have a limited shelf life and need to make as much money as they can. A fight with Pacman dwarfs any purse Hatton could make with anyone at 140. It's hardly "pathetic" to take on the most economically viable opponent, especially when the dollars and cents are dramatically different from what he could get fighting guys already at 140. Honestly, Hatton will have to fight guys coming up in weight to get big fights (possible exception is Victor Ortiz, but he'll have to get a few more wins under his belt before he is economically viable). I suspect he'll eventually fight Juan Diaz, and I think that'd be a hell of a fight. Maybe Katsidis too if Kats can keep his momentum going.
Manny and Hatton have already made tons of money. What about the guys waiting in the wings, solid fighters trying to score a big name opponent to give themselves a good purse and make their name bigger? Hatton and Pacman were not big names at one time also, but someone gave them a shot. This is what is wrong with boxing. Everyone seems to be out for taking the easy ride, instead of proving their worth.
CC for ya, good point and very true... I will say I can understand why a fighter with a fast paced rugged style would chase the biggest money fights first and foremost... However, when two weight classes and about 10 other deserving contenders or champions stand in the way, it's becomes a shame for the sport that fight's like this are discussed. And it's not just the fact that it could possibly happen, what bothers me about it all is that it is planned out ahead of time, when Pac still has a megafight in front of him, and has never fought above 130 in his life. How the hell can this really be in the works when noone knows how Pac would fair at lightweight ??? I mean it's not inconceivable that Manny will move up and become a great lightweight. It's a long shot imo, I couldn't see him beating Diaz for the life of me... But, if it happens, then more power to him, and the sport. Not to mention that a Hatton Pacquiao fight would be a WAY bigger fight, should Pac prove he is a legitimate lightweight(and no, beating David Diaz doesn't prove this). IF he does succeed at 135, THEN Hatton and his camp should be looking towards getting the fight made. Not to mention by the time Pac would have beaten Marquez and Diaz, Hatton could have taken on Witter or Maglinaggi. At this point though, the fact that the fight is in the works, is pathetic... It simply allows each fighter to avoid the real threats, and waste months and months with nothing but a soft touch tune up type fight to hype this farce.
CC back at ya. Glad someone out there sees the same picture i do.
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LOL...Someone has no sense of humor I guess and had to SC me. Don't forget to give me one tomorrow too.
Yeah some little Secret Saddo Sad Clicker just hit me with a SC also; sissy boy cry babies. Guess they got upset about me saying Hatton was ruined :bawling:
Was it you Dean? :laugh:
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Don't get me wrong, fellas, I don't disagree that I'd like to see Hatton mix it up with Paulie or Witter, but you have to put yourself in the shoes of the fighter and their handlers. You can take a tough, risky fight with Paulie and maybe pull in $3 or $4 million, or you can fight Pacman and have one of the biggest events of the year pulling in $12-15 million. What in the world is wrong with taking that fight? And, again, while Hatton's size is certainly an advantage, Pacman could give him fits if he fights a stick and move sort of fight using his foot/hand speed to his advantage. I'd favor Hatton, but I wouldn't count out Pacman by any stretch and could envision him winning a points decision.
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LOL...Someone has no sense of humor I guess and had to SC me. Don't forget to give me one tomorrow too.
Yeah some little Secret Saddo Sad Clicker just hit me with a SC also; sissy boy cry babies. Guess they got upset about me saying Hatton was ruined :bawling:
Was it you Dean? :laugh:
LOL no. I actually got dinged twice. I don't give SC's unless it was a personal attack. I see like everyone is entitled to an opinion and if I don't like what they say, so be it.
I gave you a CC just to neutralize them :-)
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I actually don't think it would be that much of a mismatch.
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Also, to add to what I've said, we're all assuming a fight with Paulie or Witter doesn't happen before a Pacman fight. It sounds like the plan would be for this to happen at the end of the year, so he'd probably fight at least twice before then.
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I actually don't think it would be that much of a mismatch.
Exactly, Hatton has the size advantage, true, but Pacman could conceivably give him fits with his hand and foot speed.
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Also, to add to what I've said, we're all assuming a fight with Paulie or Witter doesn't happen before a Pacman fight. It sounds like the plan would be for this to happen at the end of the year, so he'd probably fight at least twice before then.
Yea but don't kid yourself... As long as Hatton's camp are seriously anticipating a Pac fight in 2008, you think they are going to put him in with Witter or Malignaggi first?? Hell I'm not sure he'd beat those guys, not to mention how he would look against either of their styles..
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You have to ask your self who is out of their mind more if this did take place...Hatton for fighting such a smaller man or Pacquiao for thinking he can actually jump that high up?...this is like PBF jumping to SMW and fighting Calzaghe....Yes your good but there are limits of Nature that noone can over come
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Also, to add to what I've said, we're all assuming a fight with Paulie or Witter doesn't happen before a Pacman fight. It sounds like the plan would be for this to happen at the end of the year, so he'd probably fight at least twice before then.
Yea but don't kid yourself... As long as Hatton's camp are seriously anticipating a Pac fight in 2008, you think they are going to put him in with Witter or Malignaggi first?? Hell I'm not sure he'd beat those guys, not to mention how he would look against either of their styles..
You may be right. But, on the other hand, it certainly isn't a given that Pacman will get by JMM, so they might not wish to count their chickens and assume the fight will happen. I don't think he'll fight Witter. While the fight would probably be big in the UK, there would be about zero interest in that fight in the US, and Hatton is interested in making a big name over here, so I don't see that one happening, and the reasons are understandable from the business side of things. I could see the Paulie fight coming off, though. We'll see. I just don't see anything "pathetic" about him taking on Pacman given the $$$ involved. The purse dwarfs anything else he could make, sans a fight with De La Hoya.
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Also, to add to what I've said, we're all assuming a fight with Paulie or Witter doesn't happen before a Pacman fight. It sounds like the plan would be for this to happen at the end of the year, so he'd probably fight at least twice before then.
Yea but don't kid yourself... As long as Hatton's camp are seriously anticipating a Pac fight in 2008, you think they are going to put him in with Witter or Malignaggi first?? Hell I'm not sure he'd beat those guys, not to mention how he would look against either of their styles..
You may be right. But, on the other hand, it certainly isn't a given that Pacman will get by JMM, so they might not wish to count their chickens and assume the fight will happen. I don't think he'll fight Witter. While the fight would probably be big in the UK, there would be about zero interest in that fight in the US, and Hatton is interested in making a big name over here, so I don't see that one happening, and the reasons are understandable from the business side of things. I could see the Paulie fight coming off, though. We'll see. I just don't see anything "pathetic" about him taking on Pacman given the $$$ involved. The purse dwarfs anything else he could make, sans a fight with De La Hoya.
And if Mayweather didn't KO him, he'd probably be fighting DLH next. It just seems like a bitch move to fight Pac, especially considering most would want to bounce back and reestablish themselves after a loss.. To do that he needs to beat a world class fighter his own size. If he doesn't think he can do it, then why fight at all.
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LOL...Someone has no sense of humor I guess and had to SC me. Don't forget to give me one tomorrow too.
Yeah some little Secret Saddo Sad Clicker just hit me with a SC also; sissy boy cry babies. Guess they got upset about me saying Hatton was ruined :bawling:
Was it you Dean? :laugh:
LOL no. I actually got dinged twice. I don't give SC's unless it was a personal attack. I see like everyone is entitled to an opinion and if I don't like what they say, so be it.
I gave you a CC just to neutralize them :-)
nevermind; no big deal Deanrw ;)
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Also, to add to what I've said, we're all assuming a fight with Paulie or Witter doesn't happen before a Pacman fight. It sounds like the plan would be for this to happen at the end of the year, so he'd probably fight at least twice before then.
Yea but don't kid yourself... As long as Hatton's camp are seriously anticipating a Pac fight in 2008, you think they are going to put him in with Witter or Malignaggi first?? Hell I'm not sure he'd beat those guys, not to mention how he would look against either of their styles..
You may be right. But, on the other hand, it certainly isn't a given that Pacman will get by JMM, so they might not wish to count their chickens and assume the fight will happen. I don't think he'll fight Witter. While the fight would probably be big in the UK, there would be about zero interest in that fight in the US, and Hatton is interested in making a big name over here, so I don't see that one happening, and the reasons are understandable from the business side of things. I could see the Paulie fight coming off, though. We'll see. I just don't see anything "pathetic" about him taking on Pacman given the $$$ involved. The purse dwarfs anything else he could make, sans a fight with De La Hoya.
And if Mayweather didn't KO him, he'd probably be fighting DLH next. It just seems like a bitch move to fight Pac, especially considering most would want to bounce back and reestablish themselves after a loss.. To do that he needs to beat a world class fighter his own size. If he doesn't think he can do it, then why fight at all.
Well, maybe he will fight and beat a world class fighter before the end of this year, which is when the fight would supposedly happen. As far as "why fight at all" goes, the answer is pretty simple...$$$. There is a LOT of dough for Hatton to make by fighting Pacman. That might not be a satisfactory answer to some die hard boxing fans, but it is certainly understandable. And, as I said before, I don't think it is as much of a mismatch as some are implying. Pacman's superior speed could rule the day if he fights a disciplined bout.
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
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"The Hatton people were in New York visiting with HBO and the fighter they mentioned prominently as someone they wanted to fight at the end of the year, was Manny Pacquiao." (Arum talking)_
If Pacquiao gets by Marquez on March 15, he would move up in weight to 135-pounds to challenge David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title. The Diaz fight would probably happen in June/July. If he beats Diaz, the next step would be Hatton.
What a fwooking joke.IF Hatton takes this fight,it's pathetic. Fighting a former FLYWEIGHT.Whos' first and probably ONLY fight at 140 will be Hatton. Ricky has made enough money to be comfortable (surely?) and has far more worthy challengers like Witter and Paulie.
As for Manny,talk about SKIMMING divisions.This is THE perfect example of when someone talks about jumping weights and winning titles,and saying you're a mutiple weight champ,does not always look as good as it sounds. David Diaz?In a division where there are guys like Kats,Cas,Juan Diaz.
Agreed, but....
its all about the money now my friend. Hatton will give him a bit of a doosting at 140. they are both looking at their pensions and to be fair they will both make a fortune, cant blame em really...p4p manny is the better guy, no doubt. It would be weird to watch Hatton Vs Pac..
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
I did not give you a sc though. Someone gave me a cc and it did not even register on mine. I tried to give you a cc but it said karma. I will probably be able to give you another CC tonight. I have only ever given one sc, and that was for someone being an jerk, and not even at me, but at wacko.
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
And now I have another one!hahaha
And now another. Someone is having fun!lOL
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
No biggie, and it wasn't me giving you a sc, I just got back to the house and I only give SC's to Bilbo ;D
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
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Originally Posted by LEGION
No biggie, and it wasn't me giving you a sc, I just got back to the house and I only give SC's to Bilbo ;D
So it's you you KUNT! >:mad
You have to give me a coolclick now for being mean to me :yay2:
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
im a little confused, this would be a big money spinner for Hatton and another chance to fight a great, if this fight goes ahead (which i btw agree it shouldnt) would it not be the manny camp who are in the wrong?
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
There is a long way to go yet. If Pacman is going to tackle Juan Diaz 1st. Let's see how Pacman does against Marquesz and Diaz and Hatton in his comeback. At the moment it doesn't seem feasable but this is boxing and anything can happen.
I think if Ricky gets back to winning ways then Pacman will soon change his mind.
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by LEGION
No biggie, and it wasn't me giving you a sc, I just got back to the house and I only give SC's to Bilbo ;D
So it's you you KUNT! >:mad
You have to give me a coolclick now for being mean to me :yay2:
O.k., here's # 1452 CC for you Bubble Boy Bilbo. I don't give SC's, but if I did they would all go to you. Now go somewhere and die so I can peruse a copy of your eulogy, if by chance someone gave you one :)
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Re: Ricky Hatton serious about fighting Manny.......(pathetic)
Funny thing is is that lots of people will give Hugman more credit if he beat Pac than when Mayweather beat Hugman,its the same thing a guy coming up in weight to fight a bigger guy.
