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Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
I'm so so glad fighters are not waiting around waiting for this fake jackass to make up his mind. Here's a run down of what the fighters at 147(where Oscar SAID he would fight,whether he can make the weight or not is highly questionable)are doing at the mo'
Margarito v Judah(both were mentioned as possibilities for Oscar:Judah especially in a free bout-yeah right-BOTH are movin on.)
Cotto-Gomez:rather than wait around for Floyd or Oscar to pluck up the balls to fight him,the Puerto Rican Destroyer is staying active and looking to make a name for himself here.This one pleases me the most. I thought Cotto would stay inactive and just wait around,call them out etc etc,but No,he is doing the right thing.
The winners of the above 2 fights will fight each other.
P Willy v Quintana(I personally believe that there are 2 fighters Oscar would not go near:Marg and P.He was gassed from the PPV sparring session with Floyd,imagine what these 2 CARDIO monsters would do to him especially Williams)
Cintron v Clottey(orCintron v Williams,either way,neither of these 2 is getting a shot at Oscar)
Hatton-?(whoever it is,it's going to be at 140 unless Hatton wants to get KTOF again)
That leaves Mayweather who does not seem interested in fighting any of these guys,not yet anyway. IF he decides to forget about his break from the sport for another Oscar fight,there is no way we can consider him number 1 at 147!!
Either way,I'm so so so glad that these young,hungry WW fighters are fighting each other rather than wait around for Oscar. I even credit Zab for doing so(and you guys know I'm not that fond of Judah)
It's time for the best division in boxing to carry on after a stellar year in 07 and continue to give us great fights and new stars.I'm sick of this part time promoter thinking that when it's his time to make a decision,the world should just wait for him to go to his islands,do his meditation adn wait months and months for his fights. This sport needs new stars and I want to see that start today.I think the majority of the above guys agree with me as they have moved on and are fighting each other. :D :D :D ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 looking increasingly more likely by the day
I wish this fight wouldn't happen, the 1st wasn't exactly a thriller.
There are better fights out there for Floyd but I suppose its all down to the mighty dollar.
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I wish this fight wouldn't happen, the 1st wasn't exactly a thriller.
There are better fights out there for Floyd but I suppose its all down to the mighty dollar.
I agree . I think wed all rather see Floyd - Cotto instead . It makes more sense .
If Oscar ever had a chance of beating Floyd it was last time they met . Now I cant see him doing much better but you never know he just may get the decision this time.
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Cotto can not make the same mistake Tony Margarito made and wait around for Floyd. PBF es una gallina.
"I am not trying to fight any Welter Weight!"
Floyd ScareWeather Jr.
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There you have it,the fight is DEFINITELY in negotiation. Whether it happens or not remains to be seen. Either way,what a joke. Sure,sure,another great "event" but Mayweather could fight someone more worthy like Cotto,and I thought Oscar wanted a toe to toe war for his last fights? Punks. What hapened to Mayweather's vacation?
This fight(if it happens) makes NO SENSE. I feel for those who are going to be duped from their hard earned 5o bucks again. And I think it says alot that Oscar and Floyd are choosing each other over a fight with Cotto. >:mad >:mad
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of S***
I don't believe it will happen.
In all seriousness I can vitually guarantee that the next time we see Oscar De La Hoya on our screens it will be on Dancing with the Stars.
He'll probably win over the audience with his Golden smile and pearly white teeth and then on the back of that success bring out another shitty album which he will take with him to his island to use as soothing background music whilst he searches his Golden soul for who his next opponent should be.
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Wow I really hope we don't hear anything more about this... Let alone that the fight actually came off. Just does absolutely nothing for boxing imo. Sells the sport way short, the average sports fan will think this is the best this weight has to offer..
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of S***
Oscar is still the biggest draw so who else can he fight
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That leaves Mayweather who does not seem interested in fighting any of these guys,not yet anyway. IF he decides to forget about his break from the sport for another Oscar fight,there is no way we can consider him number 1 at 147!!
I don't have much interest in seeing Floyd-Oscar 2, but I disagree with this statement. I think Floyd should be given until the end of '08 to fight Cotto. If '08 passes and Floyd has avoided fighting Cotto, then everyone should have free reign to bash Floyd for it, and I'll be criticizing him right along with you. But fighting Oscar in the spring isn't enough to drop Floyd from the top spot at 147.
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That leaves Mayweather who does not seem interested in fighting any of these guys,not yet anyway. IF he decides to forget about his break from the sport for another Oscar fight,there is no way we can consider him number 1 at 147!!
I don't have much interest in seeing Floyd-Oscar 2, but I disagree with this statement. I think Floyd should be given until the end of '08 to fight Cotto. If '08 passes and Floyd has avoided fighting Cotto, then everyone should have free reign to bash Floyd for it, and I'll be criticizing him right along with you. But fighting Oscar in the spring isn't enough to drop Floyd from the top spot at 147.
No it isn't.. If Cotto beats Williams, that's when I'd really give Floyd little time to fight the winner in order to keep his spot. Otherwise though, it's just a poor choice of opponent from Floyd imo, however it is the biggest payday so how can you fault him.
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Surprised anyone? :D
I am.
I'm surprised that everyone who said Floyd did'nt really beat Oscar isn't supporting the rematch. ;D
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Surprised anyone? :D
I am.
I'm surprised that everyone who said Floyd did'nt really beat Oscar isn't supporting the rematch. ;D
That's what i was going to say. I'm surprised that the same people who will be annoyed are likely to be the same ones that thought Oscar won the first fight. Funny old game.....boxing.
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
There's worse fights out there, imo.
Cotto is good, but beating 36 year old Mosley and post Mayweather Zab Judah (while having trouble with both) doesn't cement his place as the new welterweight that everybody is supposedly ducking. All these people spewing this rubbish are the same ones that were saying the same thing about Margarito before he got beat by Williams. You can chop it up and look at it however you want, but that's the way it is.
Good for him that he's staying active, but his next fight needs to be against somebody worth a shyt before anybody can even start an INTELLIGENT argument by saying that Mayweather is ducking him.
Oscar is avoiding Margarito for the same reasons that Oscar's avoiding Golden Johnson. No money. Nobody would give a shyt if the fight came off and it probably wouldn't do 250,000 ppv buys. Cotto vs. Delahoya might net 500,000 buys. How much do you think that Delahoya vs. Mayweather would do?? Not to mention, I'm sure Floyd gets a much larger share of the revenue this time around.
Cotto's next fight needs to be against Paul Williams, Cintron (the weakest option, imo) or the Judah/Margarito winner. When he wins a fight (again) of that caliber, then people can begin to talk. But until that happens, the people saying that Floyd is ducking Cotto are just a bunch of delusional fan-boys.
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
When a said fighter(s) start fighting for money alone over reputation, pride, and proving their worth, they are no longer a boxer but a circus side show. This kind of crap will bury the sport eventually.
When there is a leader of a pride, herd, pack or whatever, they have to fight the strongest young up and comers to maintain their position. If they don't, they will simply get displaced and forgotten!!
Take Hagler for instance. Between his super fights with Duran, Hearns and Leonard, he fought Roldan, Hamsho and Mugabi to maintain his dominance. That is a true fighter there folks, and that is why he is, and will always be considered an all time great. You have to take on all comers, and to those who think Cotto, a two time undefeated and respected champion, does not deserve a shot, you are only kidding yourselves.
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There's worse fights out there, imo.
Cotto is good, but beating 36 year old Mosley and post Mayweather Zab Judah (while having trouble with both) doesn't cement his place as the new welterweight that everybody is supposedly ducking. All these people spewing this rubbish are the same ones that were saying the same thing about Margarito before he got beat by Williams. You can chop it up and look at it however you want, but that's the way it is.
Good for him that he's staying active, but his next fight needs to be against somebody worth a shyt before anybody can even start an INTELLIGENT argument by saying that Mayweather is ducking him.
Oscar is avoiding Margarito for the same reasons that Oscar's avoiding Golden Johnson. No money. Nobody would give a shyt if the fight came off and it probably wouldn't do 250,000 ppv buys. Cotto vs. Delahoya might net 500,000 buys. How much do you think that Delahoya vs. Mayweather would do?? Not to mention, I'm sure Floyd gets a much larger share of the revenue this time around.
Cotto's next fight needs to be against Paul Williams, Cintron (the weakest option, imo) or the Judah/Margarito winner. When he wins a fight (again) of that caliber, then people can begin to talk. But until that happens, the people saying that Floyd is ducking Cotto are just a bunch of delusional fan-boys.
You are not realising Oscar's massive commercial appeal. His fight with Mayorga drew 875,000 buys if he fought Cotto it would be a guaranteed 1,000,000 buys at least. Margarito needs to win a belt back before he would be considered but if he was champ again my guess is that a Margarito De La Hoya title fight would get at least as much as the Mayorga fight.
Oscar is insanely popular
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
oh i pray it don't happen.
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I won't pay a dime to see this fight and from the looks of it, neither will many of you. I don't care how popular Oscar is, at this point, he is irrelevant. This fight is blatantly about the money and there are so many better fights to be made. I like Oscar, but this part time sh$t where he thinks he can just pop in every now and then for a few million pisses me off. I hope HBO gets a rude awakening and nobody buys the fight.
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I won't pay a dime to see this fight and from the looks of it, neither will many of you. I don't care how popular Oscar is, at this point, he is irrelevant. This fight is blatantly about the money and there are so many better fights to be made. I like Oscar, but this part time sh$t where he thinks he can just pop in every now and then for a few million pisses me off. I hope HBO gets a rude awakening and nobody buys the fight.
I must agree. SCREW The World Awaits 2. It can keep waiting.
You a Jesse James Leija fan by any chance? I was a big fan of that little guy. Never seen a prospect that could whip him.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
There's worse fights out there, imo.
Cotto is good, but beating 36 year old Mosley and post Mayweather Zab Judah (while having trouble with both) doesn't cement his place as the new welterweight that everybody is supposedly ducking. All these people spewing this rubbish are the same ones that were saying the same thing about Margarito before he got beat by Williams. You can chop it up and look at it however you want, but that's the way it is.
Good for him that he's staying active, but his next fight needs to be against somebody worth a shyt before anybody can even start an INTELLIGENT argument by saying that Mayweather is ducking him.
Oscar is avoiding Margarito for the same reasons that Oscar's avoiding Golden Johnson. No money. Nobody would give a shyt if the fight came off and it probably wouldn't do 250,000 ppv buys. Cotto vs. Delahoya might net 500,000 buys. How much do you think that Delahoya vs. Mayweather would do?? Not to mention, I'm sure Floyd gets a much larger share of the revenue this time around.
Cotto's next fight needs to be against Paul Williams, Cintron (the weakest option, imo) or the Judah/Margarito winner. When he wins a fight (again) of that caliber, then people can begin to talk. But until that happens, the people saying that Floyd is ducking Cotto are just a bunch of delusional fan-boys.
You are not realising Oscar's massive commercial appeal. His fight with Mayorga drew 875,000 buys if he fought Cotto it would be a guaranteed 1,000,000 buys at least. Margarito needs to win a belt back before he would be considered but if he was champ again my guess is that a Margarito De La Hoya title fight would get at least as much as the Mayorga fight.
Oscar is insanely popular
CC Bil,EXACTLY. Oscar v ANYONE is going to do huge numbers.He's just smart enought to know he can make $$$ bigtime without having to get his ass beaten by monsters at 147 like Tony and Williams.
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I won't pay a dime to see this fight and from the looks of it, neither will many of you. I don't care how popular Oscar is, at this point, he is irrelevant. This fight is blatantly about the money and there are so many better fights to be made. I like Oscar, but this part time sh$t where he thinks he can just pop in every now and then for a few million pisses me off. I hope HBO gets a rude awakening and nobody buys the fight.
I must agree. SCREW The World Awaits 2. It can keep waiting.
You a Jesse James Leija fan by any chance? I was a big fan of that little guy. Never seen a prospect that could whip him.
CC to you both. That's intelligence. We've seen the fight,we're sick of Oscar's part time crap,a win over him is not important anymore. He's the cash whore now,the only reason anyone wants to fight Oscar is because of the $$$. People,use your smarts,DON'T waste your hard earned $$$ on this fwocking fight.
What makes it more embaressing is that BOTH have acknowledged it was a boring fight and when you hear Oscar say crap like it wasn't the night of the jab,it's embaressing.Pathetic,nothing but a circus.
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
When a said fighter(s) start fighting for money alone over reputation, pride, and proving their worth, they are no longer a boxer but a circus side show. This kind of crap will bury the sport eventually.
When there is a leader of a pride, herd, pack or whatever, they have to fight the strongest young up and comers to maintain their position. If they don't, they will simply get displaced and forgotten!!
Take Hagler for instance. Between his super fights with Duran, Hearns and Leonard, he fought Roldan, Hamsho and Mugabi to maintain his dominance. That is a true fighter there folks, and that is why he is, and will always be considered an all time great. You have to take on all comers, and to those who think Cotto, a two time undefeated and respected champion, does not deserve a shot, you are only kidding yourselves.
CC,well said.
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Surprised anyone? :D
I am.
I'm surprised that everyone who said Floyd did'nt really beat Oscar isn't supporting the rematch. ;D
That's what i was going to say. I'm surprised that the same people who will be annoyed are likely to be the same ones that thought Oscar won the first fight. Funny old game.....boxing.
Well,I started the thread and that dam sure as hell doesn't apply to me. When the first fight was made,I was beating the drum about how Floyd would win easily,asking people to use rationale,telling everyone Oscar never was and never will be a pressure fighter and has no right hand anymore. Did anyone listen?Nope.
FYI,I had Floyd winning that fight by a wide ,margin,4 points at least. Those judges had that fight close because they needed to make it close in case of a rematch.So there could be an excuse for one:"oh it was an SD". Yeah right.Anyone who had that fight an SD needs to learn how to score fights. The ONLY way that fight was close is if you hate Floyd or score punches that miss by miiiiiiles and INeffective agression,via arm punches.
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
I swear I will no spend a dime to watch this fight. Just like I did in the Winky vs Tito.
Stay at home and watch the news the other day.
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
Just to add to this and the reality that this fight is certainly in negotiations,Oscar/GBP has contacted Floyd senior to train Oscar for this fight. Floyd Senior certainly thinks its against his son. ANd he said he'll do it.
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I actually think this would be a terrible choice and not just because it wouldn't be exciting or that Mayweather won clearly last time etc. I think it would be terrible because it isn't going to get anywhere near the interest as it did last time, i think this is a waste of time and im a Mayweather fan saying this. I would rather Mayweather to take a year off then fight Cotto, Williams, etc.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Surprised anyone? :D
I am.
I'm surprised that everyone who said Floyd did'nt really beat Oscar isn't supporting the rematch. ;D
That's what i was going to say. I'm surprised that the same people who will be annoyed are likely to be the same ones that thought Oscar won the first fight. Funny old game.....boxing.
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Well,I started the thread and that dam sure as hell doesn't apply to me. When the first fight was made,I was beating the drum about how Floyd would win easily,asking people to use rationale,telling everyone Oscar never was and never will be a pressure fighter and has no right hand anymore. Did anyone listen?Nope.
FYI,I had Floyd winning that fight by a wide ,margin,4 points at least. Those judges had that fight close because they needed to make it close in case of a rematch.So there could be an excuse for one:"oh it was an SD". Yeah right.Anyone who had that fight an SD needs to learn how to score fights. The ONLY way that fight was close is if you hate Floyd or score punches that miss by miiiiiiles and INeffective agression,via arm punches.
Sounds like somebody's got a little sand in their vagina. ;D
Honestly...I was merely trying to be humerous...sarcastic if you will.
I don't give two shits about a Oscar Floyd rematch. Bring on Cotto...let's see him get handled...then when Floyd says he's finished this time...everyone else can hunt up someone else to beat him.
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Surprised anyone? :D
I am.
I'm surprised that everyone who said Floyd did'nt really beat Oscar isn't supporting the rematch. ;D
That's what i was going to say. I'm surprised that the same people who will be annoyed are likely to be the same ones that thought Oscar won the first fight. Funny old game.....boxing.
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Well,I started the thread and that dam sure as hell doesn't apply to me. When the first fight was made,I was beating the drum about how Floyd would win easily,asking people to use rationale,telling everyone Oscar never was and never will be a pressure fighter and has no right hand anymore. Did anyone listen?Nope.
FYI,I had Floyd winning that fight by a wide ,margin,4 points at least. Those judges had that fight close because they needed to make it close in case of a rematch.So there could be an excuse for one:"oh it was an SD". Yeah right.Anyone who had that fight an SD needs to learn how to score fights. The ONLY way that fight was close is if you hate Floyd or score punches that miss by miiiiiiles and INeffective agression,via arm punches.
Sounds like somebody's got a little sand in their vagina. ;D
Honestly...I was merely trying to be humerous...sarcastic if you will.
I don't give two shits about a Oscar Floyd rematch. Bring on Cotto...let's see him get handled...then when Floyd says he's finished this time...everyone else can hunt up someone else to beat him.
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;D ;D ;D I did sound a bit frumpy there but that's because I can't believe ANYONE would think that Oscar Floyd 1 was anywhere near an SD. I wouldn't say I'm in a rush for a Cotto-FLoyd fight,I actually think Arum lining him up v Gomez and then Marg-Judah winner is a smart move,it's more the fact that Floyd was supposedly on a hiatus (because Miguel was the big name being mentioned to fight him) but now Oscar is being mentioned,he all of a sudden is going to forget his hiatus. I don't like that.
And I don't like pricks like Oscar making boxing into some kind of circus.He either needs to fight a guy coming up or go away.At least try and do something for the sport by giving exposure to someone not as well known if you HAVE to carry on fighting. What happened to all his BS talk of I want a toe to toe war.
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If Oscar could not beat Floyd in 07 then why would he have a better chance in 08??
Pointless fight ::**
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right now as a fight fan anyways, i'd say Oscar's best bet, to not only make a shit load of money, but also put a huge ! on his career, (if he manages to pull it off), is taking on Cotto in May, if he beats him, then go on and fight Mayweather in a rematch (hey he does deserve the rematch, boring or not the first fight was close, Mayweather won by a round), and well that's it
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Well i hope the promoter dosnt hold back like he did last time out... guess now we know why he did ::**
Whats it being billed as....
"This time its personal for the MONEY"
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
Oh man i'd be so pissed off if this fight came off..Neither fighter needs this..neither fighter needs the damm money either!
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I just got the official word. (As if it weren't obvious enough)
floyd mayweather is a phucking clown and a coward and undeserving of the p4p crown.
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Well, I'm not sure how you can blame De La Hoya for this as if he's ducking someone. I mean, Floyd is still p4p #1 and beat him the first go round, to say nothing of the fact that it would still likely be his biggest money fight. If you want to blame Floyd for covering old ground, fair enough, but this would be just another example of Oscar taking the toughest challenge out there. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see them fight again, but it would be hard to blame Oscar for this.
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for me oscar is a promoter more than a fighter these days and call my a sinic but when he was rocking floyds head back with the jab early in there last fight the promoter in him thought rematch and he never throw it again....
make no mistake he will make sure he wins this one 100%... to cash in on the rubber match. ::**
its all about the $$$$$$$$$ and we will all pay to see it regardless of the claims we wont ;)
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Well, I'm not sure how you can blame De La Hoya for this as if he's ducking someone. I mean, Floyd is still p4p #1 and beat him the first go round, to say nothing of the fact that it would still likely be his biggest money fight. If you want to blame Floyd for covering old ground, fair enough, but this would be just another example of Oscar taking the toughest challenge out there. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see them fight again, but it would be hard to blame Oscar for this.
Is it really the toughest challenge for him though? A points loss to Mayweather will mean his reputation remains intact, after all he lost to the #1 P4P ranked dude.
A prolonged beating and possible stoppage from Cotto would end his part time career. Oscar and Floyd are both taking the easy route. There is a reason they both lusted after Hatton, he was much smaller without big power which = much less risk to them, but also insanely popular and would get a lot of British PPV buys. No offense to Hatton. I am glad he at least got a piece of the financial pie and he can go back down to 140 and still be a force in that division
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for me oscar is a promoter more than a fighter these days and call my a sinic but when he was rocking floyds head back with the jab early in there last fight the promoter in him thought rematch and he never throw it again....
make no mistake he will make sure he wins this one 100%... to cash in on the rubber match. ::**
its all about the $$$$$$$$$ and we will all pay to see it regardless of the claims we wont ;)
I'd watch it on Sopcast, but they would have to empty my pockets over my cold dead body before I would shell out cash to see it! ;D
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mmmmmm sopcast ;D
i really need a faster connection.... bloody stupid east germany and thier backward phone lines >:mad
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right now as a fight fan anyways, i'd say Oscar's best bet, to not only make a shit load of money, but also put a huge ! on his career, (if he manages to pull it off), is taking on Cotto in May, if he beats him, then go on and fight Mayweather in a rematch (hey he does deserve the rematch, boring or not the first fight was close, Mayweather won by a round), and well that's it
Mayweather won by a point on the scorecards. Anyone who knows how to score a fight knows Floyd won by at least 3 rounds.Easily.
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Oh man i'd be so pissed off if this fight came off..Neither fighter needs this..neither fighter needs the damm money either!
Exactly.
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Well, I'm not sure how you can blame De La Hoya for this as if he's ducking someone. I mean, Floyd is still p4p #1 and beat him the first go round, to say nothing of the fact that it would still likely be his biggest money fight. If you want to blame Floyd for covering old ground, fair enough, but this would be just another example of Oscar taking the toughest challenge out there. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see them fight again, but it would be hard to blame Oscar for this.
Is it really the toughest challenge for him though? A points loss to Mayweather will mean his reputation remains intact, after all he lost to the #1 P4P ranked dude.
A prolonged beating and possible stoppage from Cotto would end his part time career. Oscar and Floyd are both taking the easy route. There is a reason they both lusted after Hatton, he was much smaller without big power which = much less risk to them, but also insanely popular and would get a lot of British PPV buys. No offense to Hatton. I am glad he at least got a piece of the financial pie and he can go back down to 140 and still be a force in that division
Sorry Lefthooktothebody but your points were weak there. Excellent stuff Dean,CC on me 24(I think I click you everyday!!) Fighting Mayweather is a challenge,but it's also the fight Oscar can go into and come out of and carry on fighting. What happened to his wanting a toe to toe war?Didn't Oscar admit the first fight was boring and say he wanted to give the fans something exciting next? What happened to Floyd's hiatus? It's not as if they need the $$4 is it.Greedy bastards.
Saddo,boss,I think you're wrong here. Unless they are going to do some new angle or have an amazing undercard or something to sell it,I don't think knowledgeable fans are going to buy it(obviously that won't dent that PPV' sales that much but at least some of us won't be stupid enough to spend their hard earned $$$ on this)
I really really hope this fight,if it comes off,does really crappy numbers(by their standards).We have JMM v Manny,Isreal v Rafa 3,and a WHOLE HOST of other top top fights to look forward,don't waste your $$$ on a part time promoter v a guy who wanted a hiatus when he was supposed to fight Cotto but is coming back for Oscar.
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I'd like to add that we can see Oscar's intentions clearly here. He still wanted to consider Hatton as a legitimate opponent,even after he was KTFO and obviously too small for 147 let alone 154. Cotto should have been the next challenger,based on the fact Oscar wanted a toe to toe war(or so he said) Gee,I wonder what happened. Wasn't this the same Oscar who said that he saw alot of flaws which SSSm could not take advantage but he could? Moron.
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Maybe it's the weak coffee this morning,But I have absolutley no interest,questions or reason to want to see this fight happen.
DelaHoya needs to step aside and decide what it is exactly he wants to do...Fight or Promote.He's acting like a damn Diva!Its a money grab.
Floyd needs to get in there as he is capable of in a stacked and talent rich division with the top tier welts,Margarito,Williams,Cotto,Clottey,Cintron,etc . and stop looking behind him.
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Re: Oscar Floyd 2 in negotiations:what a crock of sh!t
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
right now as a fight fan anyways, i'd say Oscar's best bet, to not only make a shit load of money, but also put a huge ! on his career, (if he manages to pull it off), is taking on Cotto in May, if he beats him, then go on and fight Mayweather in a rematch (hey he does deserve the rematch, boring or not the first fight was close, Mayweather won by a round), and well that's it
Mayweather won by a point on the scorecards. Anyone who knows how to score a fight knows Floyd won by at least 3 rounds.Easily.
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Originally Posted by Althugz
Oh man i'd be so pissed off if this fight came off..Neither fighter needs this..neither fighter needs the damm money either!
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by LeftHookToTheBody
Well, I'm not sure how you can blame De La Hoya for this as if he's ducking someone. I mean, Floyd is still p4p #1 and beat him the first go round, to say nothing of the fact that it would still likely be his biggest money fight. If you want to blame Floyd for covering old ground, fair enough, but this would be just another example of Oscar taking the toughest challenge out there. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see them fight again, but it would be hard to blame Oscar for this.
Is it really the toughest challenge for him though? A points loss to Mayweather will mean his reputation remains intact, after all he lost to the #1 P4P ranked dude.
A prolonged beating and possible stoppage from Cotto would end his part time career. Oscar and Floyd are both taking the easy route. There is a reason they both lusted after Hatton, he was much smaller without big power which = much less risk to them, but also insanely popular and would get a lot of British PPV buys. No offense to Hatton. I am glad he at least got a piece of the financial pie and he can go back down to 140 and still be a force in that division
Sorry Lefthooktothebody but your points were weak there. Excellent stuff Dean,CC on me 24(I think I click you everyday!!) Fighting Mayweather is a challenge,but it's also the fight Oscar can go into and come out of and carry on fighting. What happened to his wanting a toe to toe war?Didn't Oscar admit the first fight was boring and say he wanted to give the fans something exciting next? What happened to Floyd's hiatus? It's not as if they need the $$4 is it.Greedy bastards.
Saddo,boss,I think you're wrong here. Unless they are going to do some new angle or have an amazing undercard or something to sell it,I don't think knowledgeable fans are going to buy it(obviously that won't dent that PPV' sales that much but at least some of us won't be stupid enough to spend their hard earned $$$ on this)
I really really hope this fight,if it comes off,does really crappy numbers(by their standards).We have JMM v Manny,Isreal v Rafa 3,and a WHOLE HOST of other top top fights to look forward,don't waste your $$$ on a part time promoter v a guy who wanted a hiatus when he was supposed to fight Cotto but is coming back for Oscar.
CC returned!! I love the "Greedy Bastards" comment ;D In fact, that would be the perfect billing they should have for the fight!!