Both Oscar and PBF avoiding Cotto

Both Oscar and PBF avoiding Cotto :o

Imagine that!
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I just read that PBF and ODLH are in negotiation for a second fight. If this is true, there is no denying that both Oscar and PBF are avoiding Miguel Cotto. These phuktards are once again going to step into the ring to play patty cake. I also find it very odd, that even though Ricky lost to PBF, he/Oscar still wanted to fight him too. There is no doubt in my mind that Cotto would beat the snot out of ODLH even at 154.

I say phuk these two biatches. I will give ODLH more of a break than I will PBF. Oscar has stepped in the ring with a lot better competition than PBF has.

Floyd DUCKING Cotto is the TRUTH.
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You are nuts my friend.Cotto is a good welterweight but that's it nothing exceptional in my book.I still think Shane won that fight in MSG.I think De La Hoya is too big for Cotto and probably would stop him late in the fight.I see an Oscar vs Vargas fight all over again.If them two were to meat Cotto's best shot is early.Otherwise Oscar takes it over and boxes him and eventually cathes him.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

You are nuts my friend.Cotto is a good welterweight but that's it nothing exceptional in my book.I still think Shane won that fight in MSG.I think De La Hoya is too big for Cotto and probably would stop him late in the fight.I see an Oscar vs Vargas fight all over again.If them two were to meat Cotto's best shot is early.Otherwise Oscar takes it over and boxes him and eventually cathes him.

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Riiiiiiiight...So Oscar De La Hoya who was gassed after 9 rounds v Mayweather and stopped by a glancing B Hop left hook is going to stp Cotto late.The same Cotto who COMES ON as fights wear on.Yeah,sure.That makes sense.If anyone has a chance early,it's Oscar with the left hook. Other than that,if he tries to box,he'll gas early.If he stands and trades,he'll get his ribs broken.

That'si if his wife lets him fight a PR fighter.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

You are nuts my friend.Cotto is a good welterweight but that's it nothing exceptional in my book.I still think Shane won that fight in MSG.I think De La Hoya is too big for Cotto and probably would stop him late in the fight.I see an Oscar vs Vargas fight all over again.If them two were to meat Cotto's best shot is early.Otherwise Oscar takes it over and boxes him and eventually cathes him.

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While you are sitting there thinking Shane won, I am sitting here knowing that Cotto won and the judges knew it too. It's not what you think you know that counts. It's what you know that you know that you know.

BTW how is it that you think Shane won that fight? Even Shane knows he lost and when they announced the winner, Shane nodded and was in agreement with the results. He should know better than you, I am sure. He was in the fight and you were not.

Apparently Oscar v Floyd 2 is a done deal.

http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=12047

I agree, Cotto did beat Mosley. It's just alittle embarrassing that Vernon Forrest was able to beat him way more convicingly ;D

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Apparently Oscar v Floyd 2 is a done deal.

http://www.AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com/index.php?m=show&id=12047

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Why aren't I aloud to post the page. :-\

Shit jump all over if you will.But you are wrong in a sense.Shane said I thought I won the fight but going back to the dressing room I reviewed the fight and then said I lost.SO in my opinion your first instinct is always right.Alot of people around my way Philly seen Cotto hurt in the last few rounds of the fight.Also Oscar did get stopped against a BIGGER Bernard Hopkins so of course stamina did play an issue with that.As for the Floyd fight I thought Oscar won the last round.So your theory to me my with stamina issues is false.Unless of course you wanna listen to Mayweather on 24/7 as he tells everybody how much Oscar has stamina issues.

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Originally Posted by smashcrusher

I agree, Cotto did beat Mosley. It's just alittle embarrassing that Vernon Forrest was able to beat him way more convicingly ;D

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Not in the rematch he didn't ;)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

You are nuts my friend.Cotto is a good welterweight but that's it nothing exceptional in my book.I still think Shane won that fight in MSG.I think De La Hoya is too big for Cotto and probably would stop him late in the fight.I see an Oscar vs Vargas fight all over again.If them two were to meat Cotto's best shot is early.Otherwise Oscar takes it over and boxes him and eventually cathes him.

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Riiiiiiiight...So Oscar De La Hoya who was gassed after 9 rounds v Mayweather and stopped by a glancing B Hop left hook is going to stp Cotto late.The same Cotto who COMES ON as fights wear on.Yeah,sure.That makes sense.If anyone has a chance early,it's Oscar with the left hook. Other than that,if he tries to box,he'll gas early.If he stands and trades,he'll get his ribs broken.

That'si if his wife lets him fight a PR fighter.

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ODLH has always been pretty strange to me, he has been in fights where he has come on late like in fights with Quartey, Vargas, Carr. Then there's fights where he runs out of steam late in the fight like against Mayweather, Mosley x2, Tito.

There is one simple reason why ODLH run out of steam late in the Mayweather, and thats because he was missing with most of his punches. I can tell you El Gamo when you miss with power shots over and over you will tire very quickly.

As for Cotto vs ODLH i think Cotto will force ODLH to use his movement. ODLH will be cautious in the early going and he will have his moments where he rocks Cotto, But as the fight reaches round about the 8th round Oscar will start to tire with all the movement, plus the constant pressure, and all the punishing body blows from Cotto. I see Cotto winning the later rounds and winning a close SD although it wouldn't surprise me if ODLH got a gift decision.

seriously who wants to see pbf and odlh 2 it will be bullshit agan

and they talk about big paydays dont they realize that cotto can probaly give them double digit millions

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Apparently Oscar v Floyd 2 is a done deal.

http://www.AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com/index.php?m=show&id=12047

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Why aren't I aloud to post the page. :-\

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We aren't allowed to post links from that site.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

You are nuts my friend.Cotto is a good welterweight but that's it nothing exceptional in my book.I still think Shane won that fight in MSG.I think De La Hoya is too big for Cotto and probably would stop him late in the fight.I see an Oscar vs Vargas fight all over again.If them two were to meat Cotto's best shot is early.Otherwise Oscar takes it over and boxes him and eventually cathes him.

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Many claim that Cotto is not great. How can he disprove what they think unless other great fighters give him a shot? Sorry but Floyd vs. Oscar 2 is nothing but a joke. If that rematch gets made, they are playing the public for fools, plain and simple.

That's another thing I hate hearing agift decision for De La Hoya.What fights has Oscar had a gift decision.He was robbed against Tito.He was robbed against Shane in the second fight.So please enlighten me what gift did Oscar get.If you say Pernell I just have to leave this chat.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

That's another thing I hate hearing agift decision for De La Hoya.What fights has Oscar had a gift decision.He was robbed against Tito.He was robbed against Shane in the second fight.So please enlighten me what gift did Oscar get.If you say Pernell I just have to leave this chat.

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What gift decision's did Oscar get ?? you have to be kidding me right ??

Pernell Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Sturm

Some people even think Oscar was a bit lucky in the John John Molina fight as well.

Ice Cold I think your nuts.The Whitaker was a joke.I've wathced that fight 10 times and still never thought it was close.With Pernell's tap tap tap style.Quartey very close but I had De La Hoya by a point for the knockdown in the last round so did many. Sturm again another close fight but the championship rounds I had to give to Oscar from combinations so did many.John John Molina I have to ask did you think Oscar lost because the only people I heard was Harold Lederman and you mention it so far.

No one is afraid of Cotto, he just hasn't built himself up enough yet to deserve a Mega Fight. I doubt Floyd will fight Oscar again although I think it can still generate huge interest. Also Oscar will KO a much smaller Cotto and Floyd would shut him out.

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Ice Cold I think your nuts.The Whitaker was a joke.I've wathced that fight 10 times and still never thought it was close.With Pernell's tap tap tap style.Quartey very close but I had De La Hoya by a point for the knockdown in the last round so did many. Sturm again another close fight but the championship rounds I had to give to Oscar from combinations so did many.John John Molina I have to ask did you think Oscar lost because the only people I heard was Harold Lederman and you mention it so far.

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You must be nuts if you think Whitaker vs ODLH wasn't close. Whitaker out landed ODLH by 60+ punches if i remember right. ODLH was missing with all his flurries and Whitaker made him look foolish for most of the fight. Whitaker wasn't very offensive but neither was ODLH. I can understand if anyone has ODLH winning the fight by 1 or 2 points. But to say it wasn't close at all is ridiculous IMO.

Quartey vs ODLH was quite an easy fight to score, the rounds were pretty much clear cut on who won them. I think ODLH lost that fight by 1 point his final stand in the 12th wasn't enough IMO.

Sturm beat ODLH clearly you can't even make an argument that ODLH won that one. Sturm hit ODLH with the jab all night and clearly won by 3 or 2 rounds. I have never even seen 1 person who could even make an argument for ODLH that he won that fight. That was clear cut daylight robbery no question.

I had no problem with ODLH getting the decision against Molina, but the scorecards were ridiculous and too wide. It was a close fight that i had ODLH edging but not by much.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Apparently Oscar v Floyd 2 is a done deal.

http://www.AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com/index.php?m=show&id=12047

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Apparently that is a sh!t site, considering it's a flat out lie. The mere fact that espn, fightnews, and every single legitamate media outlet in the world have nothing on this kind of suggests whatever article you read was a waste of time.

I don't know how many in the forum really wanted to watch De La Hoya and Floyd's rematch, but probably most of the people who preferred other fight will still watch it, as I will do because we love the sport. However, I really wanted to see Cotto vs. De La Hoya fight.

My opinion is that Cotto would win this fight in the late rounds helped with his body attack, but should be careful of not getting dizzy early with a clean shot of De La Hoya. If Cotto won this fight, then the fight with Floyd had to come. These are fights that I would really love to watch. However, it looks that it will take more time than I wished (if the fights ever happen).

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Apparently Oscar v Floyd 2 is a done deal.

http://www.AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com/index.php?m=show&id=12047

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Apparently that is a sh!t site, considering it's a flat out lie. The mere fact that espn, fightnews, and every single legitamate media outlet in the world have nothing on this kind of suggests whatever article you read was a waste of time.

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??? ??? Why is it a crap site? It's actually one of the best and more reliable ones out there,it's just here at Saddos',I guess we were growing too big and they didnt want us stealing their thunder by posting the links. The article has quotes from top guys at GoldenBoy so I don't think it's waste of time.

The only reason i can see these two fighting again is if it will well and truly make them the most money.

Secondly maybe they thought their first fight was not very exciting so they are go to have more of a slugfest this time around. Yeah right

As for ducking Cotto, no chance.

I personally think PBF should be taken out of the equation at 147 and let the rest battle it out. At this moment in time they are all calling out PBF instead of fighting each other.

For the record I still think PBF should fight Cotto but it seems he has made his mind up not to for the meantime, hence why I say the 147'ers should just fight each other and forget PNF for now.

Cotto and Floyd avoiding Tall Paul should be the subject.

I don't understand the people that say Cotto has to "earn" a megafight or isn't a big enough name yet? You all must truly be PBF or ODLH nut huggers. I think anyone that has beaten Mosely and can sell out Madison Square Garden and has a HUGE PR' fanbase should be able to fight the biggest names out there.

I don't think they're avoiding Cotto as much as they just want to make the biggest money. I just hope noone pays for it. I, like a dumba$$, paid for the first crap fight. That patty cake comment is the truth and is freakin' hilarious. I'm not getting rooked into paying for Oscar Floyd 2.

How about Cotto fight someone like Williams Cintron Margarito or Quartey instead of relying on one huge name to make his legacy :)

I think he's going to be forced to do just that. Make his legacy by fighting William, Margarito and Cintron. Mega fights sure are sweet though if you can land one. I think he will make decent money with Margarito. I'll bet that fight will happen next. I heard something about him fight Clottey first and then margarito. Both fights are good.