I've sent boxing news an angry email!

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Gavin Evans is an ass clown. I've just read his 'feature' in this weeks Boxing News magazine.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/issue.asp?iss=34&id=98

(you can't really read it, but you get the general idea)

So whilst reading it my blood was boiling at the amount of bum-love this guy has for Junior Witter.


So here's my response...


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I feel i must reply to Gavin Evans feature (regarding Hatton 'ducking' Witter). While i agree that the fight should be made, i disagree with Gavin Evan's logic. His logic was basically: Because Mayweather fought Hatton after Hatton made a negative remark about him on HBO, Hatton should take a leaf out of Mayweather's book and oblige Junior Witter. Seems logical...



But here's why i disagree (for now)



Hatton had publicly been saying he had the style to beat Mayweather since June 2005 (when he beat Kostya Tszyu). However he wasn't derogatory about anything he said. He went over to Atlantic City to co-commentate on the Mayweather -Gatti fight later in the month. He was clearly pushing for the fight.



Mayweather looked awesome in destroying Gatti and by now Hatton and Mayweather we're the hottest fighters at 140. Forget Miguel Cotto because he was mixing with the likes of Mohammed Abdulaev.



So what happened next? Hatton decided to go for another title (WBA - Maussa) which would have given him more bargaining power for the Mayweather fight. Unfortunately at the time, Mayweather moved up to 147 and beat Sharmba Mitchell.



So what happened next? Hatton (under different circumstances) moved up to 147 to fight for another title (WBA - Collazo). Mayweather (after beating Zab) took the Baldomir fight and then went up to 154 for the super-fight with Oscar.



All the time Hatton had been declaring how he had the style to beat Mayweather. Still Mayweather didn't show much interest.



Now was Mayweather ducking Hatton like Hatton is supposedly ducking Mayweather? Hell no! All he was doing was waiting for Hatton to make a big enough name for himself in America for the fight to become much more lucrative. Hatton then went on to KO common opponent Castillo and then he made the remark about Mayweather, live on HBO. Even then, he only commented on Mayweather's excitement factor (or lack of). Hatton had now established himself as a big name in America and that's all that Floyd was waiting for.



Basically that's what Hatton is doing with Witter. Although Witter's stock has risen, DeMarcus Corley was far attached from 'world class' (his next 2 fights suggest this). Vivian Harris is also not world class, regardless of what Gavin Evans will have you believe. I actually stopped taking the article seriously when Gavin went on to claim that Harris (in some American's eye's) was the best in the division. On what basis? Looking awful in beating Juan Lazcano? Looking equally as bad in beating blown up lightweight Stevie Johnston. The only reason he beat Johnston was because of the huge advantage he had size wise add that to the fact that Stevie Johnston was well past his best. Add that to the fact that he got ko'd by Carlos Maussa who can only be described as the oddest thing i've ever seen in a boxing ring.



I just found it ridiculous how Evan's could be so positive about fighters like N'dou, Kotelnik, Corley and Harris (because Witter had beaten them) and then in the same article ridicule Malignaggi, Torres and Juan Diaz.



So to conclude the rant, i would like to say that i am 100% sure Hatton will fight Witter once Witter can prove he has the drawing power in the UK, maybe even in the US. All that the American's remember about him is how he struggled over the finish line against N'dou and how he refused to engage Zab Judah. I suggest Witter get's himself over to America to fight Paulie Malignaggi or maybe even a belt holder at 147 because he seriously needs to raise is profile for HBO and Hatton's camp to be interested. Only then will Witter get his dream fight, because right now that fight offers too much risk and no reward for Hatton. Witter is a stylistic nightmare for anybody and Hatton's camp know this. Hatton won't take this fight until Witter is a big name along the lines of Juan Diaz, or until he has made his money fighting Pacman and Diaz if and when they both move up.



Sorry for the rant, great mag, keep it up!



Jonny Harrison, Leeds

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i doubt they will print it because it is too long ;D

Evans is right. It's about time Hatton stopped ducking Witter.

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You really don't like British fighters VD do you ??? Calzaghe will own Hopkins ass and I will then own you for a week ;D

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You really don't like British fighters VD do you ??? Calzaghe will own Hopkins ass and I will then own you for a week ;D

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Just like Hatton owned Mayweather, right?

Hatton needs to just make thefight a title holder at 140 is better than a fight v urango!!

Big wow he lost to the best and can't be acused for ducking unlike some Yanks.

I am a big Hatton fan but IMO its time the witter fight happened.


I cringe when I here that Hatton is not interested in fighting him for what ever reason.Sounds a bit like Bowe when he avoided Lewis.

I agree that in the past Hatton had bigger fish to fry but now is the right time to fight JW.

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I didnt think he was ducking him , but now im having second thoughts

Ive had nothing but hate for Evans ever since he did an article on James Toney regarding his legacy.Him and that Kevin A-Hole fella need shooting >:mad

Dude,he just came off a fight where he got his a$$ KTFO,how can anyone know if he's ducking when noone knows if he's even clear to train
Alot of commisions put you on 2 months no contact before you can even spar,does anybody who writes about this sport,know a damned thing about it?

This is THE fight that the British boxing public want to see & if made I am sure would draw more than Haye v Macca staged at a time to suit home fight fans & not at some ungodly hour to keep the yanks happy who don't give a toss anyway if left to long one or both will lose then it won't draw breath there is an old saying strike while the iron is hot & it's hot alright Come on Warren stop fking about

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Ive had nothing but hate for Evans ever since he did an article on James Toney regarding his legacy.Him and that Kevin A-Hole fella need shooting >:mad

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I made a thread on here about that james Toney article. At the time i wasn't up on Toney, but rather than take Evan's word for it i decided to ask my fellow saddonians. So i put the article in the thread and it got an angry response.


Going back to the Hatton article.....don't get me wrong, he should fight Witter (and he will). He just aint fighting him yet because it has the potential to be a super-fight. Witter needs to further raise his stock in order for this to happen. Hatton aint guna go in with the trickiest fighter out there while the reward is so little. especially not when he take money spinning fights with the likes of Juan Diaz and Pacman further down the road. He's not going to put them potential fights in danger.....because let's face it, if he was to get ko'd by Witter, Hatton would be done.

Ono you owe me a :coolclick: from the game yesterday ;)

CC returned Ono, I noticed you clicked me. I read that feature myself (I get my money's worth out of that Mag, I read like every word printed) and Evans is one prick although he must have the best job in the world, sitting ringside at every big fight courtesy of Boxing News and then writing a page of what happened and telling people how he scored it and why, great job that is.

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Big wow he lost to the best and can't be acused for ducking unlike some Yanks.

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Which Yanks?

Hopkins? Floyd? Wright?

Sorry lefty...but most of the "ducking yanks" are facing world widers & kicking the shit out of them.

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Big wow he lost to the best and can't be acused for ducking unlike some Yanks.

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Which Yanks?

Hopkins? Floyd? Wright?

Sorry lefty...but most of the "ducking yanks" are facing world widers & kicking the S*** out of them.

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Wacko I don't wanna get into a big debate with you as you're one of the guys I most respect around here but all I was implying it to VD is because he hates British fighters for no reason, another thing when I say US fighters ducking I did mean Hopkins not fighting Calzaghe years back, Cunningham not fighting Enzo etc and when they do come over here and get their ass beat they start moaning, Vivian Harris, Jeff Lacy etc and I wanted to show that UK fighters will travel anywhere and fight the best i.e. Clinton Woods over Jones JR, Hatton over Collazo, Hatton over Floyd, Haye over Mormeck, Calzaghe over Hopkins now etc.

Well i cant comment on the article as i didn't read it but for me the meaning of it is correct....

Witter sure as hell wants it....

i would guess most of Hattons fans do also... It's a fight i would like to see more than any other for Hatton.

Witter is prob more known in the US than alot of the names on Hattons record, but regardless of the US it would be a massive event in the UK alone without US revenue.

Also Witter has offered to step in a few times to fight Hatton... The Pinto no show springs to mind.

The only guy who dosnt want it is Ricky... He is ducking Witter but not because he is scared or because he aint a big name... my personal opinion is that Hatton just dosnt want to give him the payday because he dosnt like him. no more no less.

can't see this fight ever happening... Which is a shame.

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Many people don't seem to realise Witter-Hatton has been about for 7/8 years.

The only people that don't want this fight seem to be Hatton lovers that are scared of him losing.

Kostya, Castillo and Mayweather. Only three names in 44 fights rate above Witter. But he needs to prove he's "worthy" ::** Sickening excuse.

Ricky's excuses have turned me from wanting him to smash the shit out of Witter to wanting Witter to beat him (could possibly have a change of heart should fight ever happen ::**).

Hatton should fight Witter Hatton is Ring champ but Witter is there number 1 he deserves his shot they should of fought years ago but now Witter is WBC champ he is rated right behind Hatton in all boxing mags Ricky stop being a girl and fight Junior.

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Hatton should fight Witter Hatton is Ring champ but Witter is there number 1 he deserves his shot they should of fought years ago but now Witter is WBC champ he is rated right behind Hatton in all boxing mags Ricky stop being a girl and fight Junior.

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I myself am unsure as to the hesitation in this fight.

Billy Graham is an astute trainer, perhaps he is aware of the stylistic consequences. Win lose or draw a fight with Junior will be an ugly one for Hatton and will be by no means crowd pleasing. At this stage of his career Hatton again finds himself necessitating a fight in which he can make a stamen. Similarly to the Holbaek Pederson fight before Tszyu, Ricky now needs a fighter whose style will allow him to be knocked out in an impressive fashion and confirm once again that Ricky is world class.

Fighting Junior will not provide this pleasure as although I feel Hatton can clinch it, I too feel that the switch hitting awkward style of Junior will frustrate Hatton and result in a dirty ugly fight which could do more damage to Hatton's public appeal than the possession of any title could do good.

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Evans is right. It's about time Hatton stopped ducking Witter.

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I didnt think he was ducking him , but now im having second thoughts

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I'm starting to feel the same way..

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CC returned Ono, I noticed you clicked me. I read that feature myself (I get my money's worth out of that Mag, I read like every word printed) and Evans is one prick although he must have the best job in the world, sitting ringside at every big fight courtesy of Boxing News and then writing a page of what happened and telling people how he scored it and why, great job that is.
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surely Lefty you have described what a boxing writers job is what else do you expect them to do. Evans can't be doing to much wrong if as you say you read every word. you might not agree with him but it provokes comment & it's only his opinion

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CC returned Ono, I noticed you clicked me. I read that feature myself (I get my money's worth out of that Mag, I read like every word printed) and Evans is one prick although he must have the best job in the world, sitting ringside at every big fight courtesy of Boxing News and then writing a page of what happened and telling people how he scored it and why, great job that is.
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surely Lefty you have described what a boxing writers job is what else do you expect them to do. Evans can't be doing to much wrong if as you say you read every word. you might not agree with him but it provokes comment & it's only his opinion

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Bro I meant I read virtually every word of that mag because it's cool although I don't like Evans on occasions and especially in this case. I never commmented on what else I expected boxing writers to do I just said thats a wicked job that Evans also like Claude Abrams has got by sitting ringside etc at every big event and how is that critical of them ??, I'm saying they have a cool job. Another thing is Evans does'nt write every article in the mag they have journalists all over the world that contribute so I don't know what your implying when you say "Evans can't be doing to much wrong if as you say you read every word", it's not a one man mag you know.

I did'nt get my boxing news till yesterday i read the letter and i could'nt agree more with Gavin Evans Ricky did get his shot at Mayweather by calling him names and slagging him off Mayweather reacted and Hatton got his shot.Witter has done the same in the past to Hatton but rather than give him his shot and want to shut him up Hatton as been abit of a mardy baby saying he won't fight him for this reason.I believe if they do meet Witter will KO Hatton Hatton got away with his KO loss vs Mayweather because hey it was Mayweather P4P#1 but when Witter does it Hatton will be found out to be not as good as everyone made out.All he has done is beat old names i wish Hatton would just fight Witter deep down the Hatton camp must know Witter is all wrong for them it int because he has a boring style if that was the case Hatton would just fight him stop him and say thats that done him next.Hatton knows Witter could win this this would be 50/50 fight and Hatton likes 60/40 fights in his favour he were'nt favourite in Mayweather fight but who is he did that for money mainly in my opinion but he got his shot now Witter should get his.What better way of proving your still number 1 lightwelter after his loss to Mayweather than fighting number 2 lightwelter Junior Witter.

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CC returned Ono, I noticed you clicked me. I read that feature myself (I get my money's worth out of that Mag, I read like every word printed) and Evans is one prick although he must have the best job in the world, sitting ringside at every big fight courtesy of Boxing News and then writing a page of what happened and telling people how he scored it and why, great job that is.
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surely Lefty you have described what a boxing writers job is what else do you expect them to do. Evans can't be doing to much wrong if as you say you read every word. you might not agree with him but it provokes comment & it's only his opinion

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Bro I meant I read virtually every word of that mag because it's cool although I don't like Evans on occasions and especially in this case. I never commmented on what else I expected boxing writers to do I just said thats a wicked job that Evans also like Claude Abrams has got by sitting ringside etc at every big event and how is that critical of them ??, I'm saying they have a cool job. Another thing is Evans does'nt write every article in the mag they have journalists all over the world that contribute so I don't know what your implying when you say "Evans can't be doing to much wrong if as you say you read every word", it's not a one man mag you know.

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Oh pardon me what a silly fcher I must be I thought Boxing News was a one man mag I've only been getting it since1953 & nobody has pointed that out to me thanks for that

No problem bro and yes you should of realised that by now. ;)

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Big wow he lost to the best and can't be acused for ducking unlike some Yanks.

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Hopkins? Floyd? Wright?

Sorry lefty...but most of the "ducking yanks" are facing world widers & kicking the S*** out of them.

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Wacko I don't wanna get into a big debate with you as you're one of the guys I most respect around here but all I was implying it to VD is because he hates British fighters for no reason, another thing when I say US fighters ducking I did mean Hopkins not fighting Calzaghe years back, Cunningham not fighting Enzo etc and when they do come over here and get their ass beat they start moaning, Vivian Harris, Jeff Lacy etc and I wanted to show that UK fighters will travel anywhere and fight the best i.e. Clinton Woods over Jones JR, Hatton over Collazo, Hatton over Floyd, Haye over Mormeck, Calzaghe over Hopkins now etc.

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Cunningham ducked Enzo? Relax kid. Cunningham has proven he would travel any where to fight. He just got back from Germany. Now he's suppose to be scared of Enzo? Enzo didn't even want to fight Haye until Haye gave in to all his demands. And you want to talk about ducking just look at Calzaghe ducking Glen Johnson 3 times. And so you know Vivian Harris is from Ghana. He ain't American. Learn your boxing first

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You really don't like British fighters VD do you ???

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Where'd that come from ??? he just spoke well of Witter ;)

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I did'nt get my boxing news till yesterday i read the letter and i could'nt agree more with Gavin Evans Ricky did get his shot at Mayweather by calling him names and slagging him off Mayweather reacted and Hatton got his shot.Witter has done the same in the past to Hatton but rather than give him his shot and want to shut him up Hatton as been abit of a mardy baby saying he won't fight him for this reason.I believe if they do meet Witter will KO Hatton Hatton got away with his KO loss vs Mayweather because hey it was Mayweather P4P#1 but when Witter does it Hatton will be found out to be not as good as everyone made out.All he has done is beat old names i wish Hatton would just fight Witter deep down the Hatton camp must know Witter is all wrong for them it int because he has a boring style if that was the case Hatton would just fight him stop him and say thats that done him next.Hatton knows Witter could win this this would be 50/50 fight and Hatton likes 60/40 fights in his favour he were'nt favourite in Mayweather fight but who is he did that for money mainly in my opinion but he got his shot now Witter should get his.What better way of proving your still number 1 lightwelter after his loss to Mayweather than fighting number 2 lightwelter Junior Witter.

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Let's be clear here. He only got his shot when Mayweather decided Hatton was a big enough name to generate a super fight. If Mayweather did what you and Evans say he did, he would have fought him 3 years ago. That was my argument agaisnt Evans.

Hatton will fight Witter but only when he has a bit more to gain from it. That's why i suggest Witter beats a top contender. Corley doesn't count and imo Viv Harris barely counts. He's awful on a good day!

I took issue with how Evans 'bigged up' Corley, N'dou, Kotelnik and Harris and in the next paragraph ridiculed Juan Diaz and Paulie Malignaggi. Absolute clown.

Cool Click Ono, you have a point.

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Gavin Evans is an a** clown. I've just read his 'feature' in this weeks Boxing News magazine.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/issue.asp?iss=34&id=98

(you can't really read it, but you get the general idea)

So whilst reading it my blood was boiling at the amount of bum-love this guy has for Junior Witter.


So here's my response...


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I feel i must reply to Gavin Evans feature (regarding Hatton 'ducking' Witter). While i agree that the fight should be made, i disagree with Gavin Evan's logic. His logic was basically: Because Mayweather fought Hatton after Hatton made a negative remark about him on HBO, Hatton should take a leaf out of Mayweather's book and oblige Junior Witter. Seems logical...



But here's why i disagree (for now)



Hatton had publicly been saying he had the style to beat Mayweather since June 2005 (when he beat Kostya Tszyu). However he wasn't derogatory about anything he said. He went over to Atlantic City to co-commentate on the Mayweather -Gatti fight later in the month. He was clearly pushing for the fight.



Mayweather looked awesome in destroying Gatti and by now Hatton and Mayweather we're the hottest fighters at 140. Forget Miguel Cotto because he was mixing with the likes of Mohammed Abdulaev.



So what happened next? Hatton decided to go for another title (WBA - Maussa) which would have given him more bargaining power for the Mayweather fight. Unfortunately at the time, Mayweather moved up to 147 and beat Sharmba Mitchell.



So what happened next? Hatton (under different circumstances) moved up to 147 to fight for another title (WBA - Collazo). Mayweather (after beating Zab) took the Baldomir fight and then went up to 154 for the super-fight with Oscar.



All the time Hatton had been declaring how he had the style to beat Mayweather. Still Mayweather didn't show much interest.



Now was Mayweather ducking Hatton like Hatton is supposedly ducking Mayweather? Hell no! All he was doing was waiting for Hatton to make a big enough name for himself in America for the fight to become much more lucrative. Hatton then went on to KO common opponent Castillo and then he made the remark about Mayweather, live on HBO. Even then, he only commented on Mayweather's excitement factor (or lack of). Hatton had now established himself as a big name in America and that's all that Floyd was waiting for.



Basically that's what Hatton is doing with Witter. Although Witter's stock has risen, DeMarcus Corley was far attached from 'world class' (his next 2 fights suggest this). Vivian Harris is also not world class, regardless of what Gavin Evans will have you believe. I actually stopped taking the article seriously when Gavin went on to claim that Harris (in some American's eye's) was the best in the division. On what basis? Looking awful in beating Juan Lazcano? Looking equally as bad in beating blown up lightweight Stevie Johnston. The only reason he beat Johnston was because of the huge advantage he had size wise add that to the fact that Stevie Johnston was well past his best. Add that to the fact that he got ko'd by Carlos Maussa who can only be described as the oddest thing i've ever seen in a boxing ring.



I just found it ridiculous how Evan's could be so positive about fighters like N'dou, Kotelnik, Corley and Harris (because Witter had beaten them) and then in the same article ridicule Malignaggi, Torres and Juan Diaz.



So to conclude the rant, i would like to say that i am 100% sure Hatton will fight Witter once Witter can prove he has the drawing power in the UK, maybe even in the US. All that the American's remember about him is how he struggled over the finish line against N'dou and how he refused to engage Zab Judah. I suggest Witter get's himself over to America to fight Paulie Malignaggi or maybe even a belt holder at 147 because he seriously needs to raise is profile for HBO and Hatton's camp to be interested. Only then will Witter get his dream fight, because right now that fight offers too much risk and no reward for Hatton. Witter is a stylistic nightmare for anybody and Hatton's camp know this. Hatton won't take this fight until Witter is a big name along the lines of Juan Diaz, or until he has made his money fighting Pacman and Diaz if and when they both move up.



Sorry for the rant, great mag, keep it up!



Jonny Harrison, Leeds

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i doubt they will print it because it is too long ;D

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Congratulations on your email making it into boxing news ;D

Ye I picked this weeks copy up this morning and was laughing as Ono's got "Star letter of the week".

Well done bro ;D