http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW6pVFOpE6Q
I know ancient records have stories of cultures lifting huge objects by levitation as well.
Scientists can now levitate small objects in a laboratory.
Very interesting stuff
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW6pVFOpE6Q
I know ancient records have stories of cultures lifting huge objects by levitation as well.
Scientists can now levitate small objects in a laboratory.
Very interesting stuff
Do you think that is true Bibs?
Well it's true that scientist's have been able to do it by manipulating what is called the Casimir force', kind of like reverse magnetism.
In the ancient world there were accounts of culture's being able to lift objects by banging large drums and chanting.
Scientists have also been able to replicate this 'acoustic' levitation although on a much smaller scale.
My own thoughts are that the ancient tales are massively exaggerated but that some people have been able to levitate either themselves or small objects by manipulating the forces mentioned above.
It's pure science not paranormal and it wouldn't suprise me if some ancient cultures and maybe even native cultures today are able to harness that power without realising the scientifics of it.
It's interesting stuff though I think.
Here's an interesting weblink
http://www.thothweb.com/article2902.html
I don't know what to make of it. Certainly the ancient's built structures that we have no idea how they built them even today.
I love ancient history and mythology. One of my favourite subjects.
You should get some course on anthropolgy or something Bilbo. Maybe the gov't could even fund it since you are a useless bastard 'as is'?
haha I'd love to do that but I have a disease called 'chronic idleness' that prevent's me from doing anything remotely stressful or work relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I think if you forced yourself into a little structure you would be happier perhaps. I know that I am happier when I do things. Also it wouldn't be considered work or stressful if it is something that you really enjoy.
Hey Bilbo have you seen that one Yogi in India I believe that can stand on his head for days on end? Heres the kicker his head is buried underground!!!
I'm an anthropology/history major, it's a lot less work than you'd think. Of course, I'm only in my 2nd year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Really, I bet it's an interesting subject though? Do you do much fieldwork?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
What do you make of all the ancient legends and mythologies?
I love history too. It is definetly one of my favourite subjects.. Especially when you get into the realms of some of the things that humans were able to a acheive thousands of years ago that humans with todays technology STILL can't figure out how the accomplished them... Let alone would struggle to replicate the same structures with todays technology and billions of dollars...Quote:
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Below is a link to a 3 DVD series that is dedicated to all the amazing structures that were built so long ago and the mysteries that surround them...
Like these HUGGGGEEEEE 15 tonne stones they found at the top of himylain mountains that could only have been brought from 100's of miles away, and taken up to an altitude where it's a struggle to even breathe.
Some of the building with the masonary soooo precise that no where in the building can you even fit a razor blade between 2 rocks, they are carved so perfectly by hand.
Their is one city on an island called ponepei or something like that, and they literally have absolutely no idea how they could have built the ruines that are there today....
Although the narrator/writter does not point our levitation or 'woo woo' as a possible solution to the mystery, he does point out a number of times on the dvd's that, their are very very few alternative explanations to how these amazing structures could have been put together..
I suggest ANYONE check these out... Even if you aren't into history, this series will MAKE YOU.
The 1st DVD is a little slow but does point out some amazing things about how the egyptians and other civilizations had an amazing knowledge of the stars that rivals the knowledge we only came across 40 or 50 years ago via technology...
The 2nd and 3rd DVD's go much much deeper into the mysteries, with DVD 3 really leaving you in absolute awe of the world we live in and that as much as we think we have all the answers, their still could be some truths that could turn it all upside down.
http://avaxsphere.com/video/Format/d.../Necton02.html
http://avaxsphere.com/video/Format/d.../Necton03.html
http://avaxsphere.com/video/Format/d.../Necton04.html
Follow the "DOWNLOAD RS links".
This documentary absolutely amazed me a few years ago when I saw it on the discovery channel and have literally been hunting it down ever since...
:coolclick: That's an AWESOME link buddy! Grabbing the first one now, first time my rapidshare account has ever been used for something other than porn :D
Always great when you meet someone with similar diverse interests on here, I've had plenty a discourse with Sharla and Andre and it's nice to meet people who know a great deal about subjects that most people arn't interested in.
My car is going in for MOT this morning so hopefully when I get back the first DVD will have downloaded.
I've see a bit of Graham Hancock and obviously know the titles of his books but I've never read any so this will be great. I know he's not recognised by 'proper' anthropologists and historians but there's certainly more than meets the eye when it comes the ancient world imo.
Another guy I find interesting whose work is taken seriously by the mainstream is David M Rohl, the Egyptologist. I especially like his work because, as a fan of biblical history Rohl is one of the few secular (I think he is anyway) scholars who dates the Exodus from Egypt as 1440 BC as opposed to the 1200's BC's that most Egyptologists adhere to. This new chronology is absolute dynamite imo as it completely harmonises the Bible with the records of ancient Egypt.
The princess who pulled Moses out of the river would have been none other than Hathuspet herself and the Egyptian Pharoah Akhenaten would have been the Pharoh who drove Moses out of Egpyt. His denouncement of the Egyptian Gods and the installation of worship of Aten the Sun God, going against centuries of Egyptian history then makes perfect sense in that context.
Can't wait to watch these, thanks a lot. :)
CC Bilbo & Diz
HAve you guys seen the episode of "In Search Of..." about Coral Castle in Florida? It's freakin' amazing!
Here is part one. You can find parts two and three in the side window. Let me know what you think...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jqyH8ueCAsY&feature=related
Well it's certainly well hidden BG as I can't even find your link :PQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I can see it in my window...  and in your quote. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyH8...msg748347.html
YOU...
Damn it, Bilbo! You just got me good.
I'm tired as hell and fresh outta Pepsi.
;D
"The German commentator can not believe his eyes, there is NO QUESTION this is a trick or illusion" ;D
They show a cameraman from the fixed camera position, to show a second camera angle, then just cut from foot to head shots ;D Seriously, how do people fall for that?
The shaman would have soon revealed the trick if he knew years into the future he could make a killing through "learn how to levitate" DVDs. ;)
Glad your excited about these! They are really well made documentaries, and Graham Hancock wrote and narrated them, and he is so passionate about his research that you can't help getting completely wrapped up in it as well.Quote:
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I'm probably not as knowledgable as some, but every peice of knowledge I come across just gets absorbed like a spounge and I want more.... Once you see or hear that first thing that puzzles you and you just think "what the f'k, i don't know what to do with that information" your just hooked.
As you havn't read any of Graham Hancock's books, i've used the upload function of my rapidshare account for the first time and uploaded a copy of one of his best books...
http://rapidshare.com/files/83962126/FOTG.rar.html
It's not quite porn, but it almost gives me a boner it's so insane.
I only recently got it, so i've only got through one chapter to see what it's like, and it totally blew my mind...
The first chapter discusses a map that an explorer had in the 15 century that detailed Antarctica's coasts and mountains. Except the last time this land was NOT under ice, was over 10,000 years ago.. and has only recently been mapped again through modern seizmic type technology. To complete such a map, these people would have had to of been able to sail, measure latitude and longitude (which modern humans only got sorted 70 or 80 years ago), had a very detailed knowledge of the stars, and been intelligent enough to complete all this... Conventional scientists on the other hand, will not even admit that people MIGHHHHT have even EXISTED 10,000 years ago... Let alone been capable of anything like mapping out a continent. DId I say this stuff blows my mind?
This 1st chapter is surely setting the scene for the HUGE unexplained history that we have, that conventional historians want to ignore,,,,, but Graham Hancock sets out to explore and try to explain it..
Everyone should download and have a read of the first chapter... Either you'll be bored shitless, or it'll blow your freakin mind and you'll be hooked and have to know everything... I'm sure it'll be the latter..
I absolutely positive you'll love it Bilbo..
Anyway, let me know what you think of the DVD's or the book whenever you get a chance.... I tried in vain to get my girlfriend to have any interest at all in it, So i'm up for any discussion on such topics on here!
Hey Dizaster, I am somewhat aquainted with the map you mentioned. It's called the Peri Reis map or something like that and was drawn by I believe an Italian seafarer/map maker drawing on other more ancient documents.Quote:
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I know critics have tried to say that it doesn't show Antartica at all but rather South America in the wrong position, but then others say the geography is exactly correct for how Antartica would look like without the ice.
I'm actually a Biblical believer, although not a practising Christian, I do believe the old Biblical accounts.
That's why I find the ancient pyramid civilisations so interesting. It's certainly no coincidence in my mind that all at the same time in history civilisations pop in South America, Egypt, Babylon etc all with the same form of pyramid buildings of worship, heavily aligned with the stars, the same priests and rituals and most significantly the idea of needing to sacrifice in order to appease the Gods.
It's interesting that only in the Bible is the reasons behind sacrifical rites and worship explained, and only within that context do such rituals make sense.
According to the Bible when the tower of Babel was built and God confounded every body by giving them different languages, the people split into groups based on the language they were given and moved away from each other. However they all retained the same memory of sacrificial worship, the pyramid style towers, the priests, the astrology etc and when they reached their new lands they began their form of worhsip as before.
As extraodinary as this sounds it's the ONLY explanation for how these people came to share the same religious ideas, even to the point of serpent worship.
The idea of sacrifce was initiated after the fall of man with Cain and Abel. God then made it an 'official' requirement following the flood of Noah's day when he had him sacrifice a huge amount of animals. This sacrificial rite continued with Abraham being told to sacrifice his son (God showing a shadow of what He was going to do with his Son Jesus Christ) and then became the legal requirement for any man who wished to approach God.
The idea was that man was seperated from God due to his sin and in order for the two to be reconciled blood must be shed, ie. the sinner must pay for his sin. As God wanted relationship with man and forgiveness he instigated the rite of sacrifice whereby the death of an animal would pay the price for man's sin and act as an atonement.
Of course all of this was to show God's ultimate sacrifice of His own Son as an eternal sacrifical lamb to finally reconcile mankind to God.
Whether people think this is nuts or not, this idea of sacrifice, which was universally carried out across the entire ancient world is ONLY properly explained in the Bible.
In fact if you study the Bible histories I promise you there is nothing more mind blowing in the world!
A brilliant book regarding this is Henry Morris' 'The Long War Against God'. In fact he wrote many mind blowing books.
He's dead now but he was absolutely hated with a passion by those high priests of evolution Richard Dawkins and Stephen Jay Gould.
His stuff is well worth reading.
Hey Dizaster, I can't download the DVD 2 of the Hancock set. I can get 6 parts but part 2 of the 7 won't load for me, it keeps saying server not found?
Any ideas, I've got the first film already and parts of the 7 of film 2, just can't get the 2nd part.
I havn't tried Film 3 yet.
I have seen it done, it was the most inspiring thing Ive seen in my lifetime. I went home and cried for three days.
Damn you Bilbo your threads always have me searching Youtube for hours....check this out theres alot of crazy Yogi's and Baba's on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGj_DlZH-kk
I'm off to work now, but i've just tried getting part 2 again of DVD 2 and it seems to be downloading.. I deleted all the original install files when I first got them, but if you have trouble getting certain parts, i'll just download them if I can and then re-upload them to my account...Quote:
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I'm not sure if it helps but I also use Orbit download to get everything from Rapidshare. It's faster and more organised than any other download manager i've used, and is always fast as hell.. We've got a network at home with a couple of computers, and when I run Obrit, it totally freezes every other computer in the network just so it can download my stuff as fast as possible.... Though, you can change the max speed of the download if you need to use the net for other things at the same time...
Although it might have just been a problem with rapidshare or something because it looks like it's downloading okay for me now... I'll check back later though, we'll work it out..
I'm going to look the Henry Morris book as soon as I get home from work. I am not very familiar with bible history, but 90% of what you said makes complete sense when you watch DVD 2 of that series where he finds many things that connect all the civilazations together yet historians say they never had any contact or should not have had any influence on each other. It discusses the sacrifices and their worship of serpents.... etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I have actually read Richdard Dawkins main evolution book and it's actually quite interesting.. I read it from a social evolution perspective and how our 'gene's' play a part in how we interact and just about eveything else we do..... But one thing that the 'evolution's' did wrong was present evolution as a reason for god perhaps not existing or creating us...
BUT, their was a very very very important line that Steven Hawking said in his "brief history of time" where he presents through research, that the stars are all slowly but constinently moving 'away' from each other.. Spreading out uniformaly so that the universe is expanding... So theoretically, going BACK through time, the stars would all get closer and eventually at some point in time billions of years ago, they would have all started in the one spot (big bang theory)..
But his important line was this - "This is in no way to discount the theory that god played a part in the creation of the universe, just that at that point when he DID create the universe, he made it appear that the universe did in fact exist for a time before he created it"...
In creating the universe, god gave us a history, that he did expect some of us to study.
Ever since since this I have seen the theory of evolution a different way... That point in time where god may have created us, he gave us a past. A past that at least some of us could study, and in the process, gain a better understanding of ourselves and explain why and what we are... Even if their was a point of creation at a certain point in time, at that exact time, we were given a past that we could 'study' and 'track' and 'observe' what we are... God did not leave evidence that we were suddently created, for that would be to puzzeling and the only thing we could learn from that is 'faith', and that's for everyone to find for themselves.... He gave us a past so we can better understand the bodies he has given us... No scientist can explain our soul and our level of deep understanding.... But from learning about 'where we came from', we can understand where we are going..
That's allowed me to keep a lot more open mind about any view of the subject..
Yeah, it is a very interesting subject, at least it is to me. I'm only in my 2nd year, so I haven't had many chances to do fieldwork, but it is looking like I'll have a chance to do some this spring. In anthropology, my main focus is archaeology, but I've taken courses in all of the main sub-disciplines except for linguistic anth. (I didn't like the prof who was teaching it). This spring I should be getting into a program for an archaeological field technician, which would take place at an old quarry outside of town where migrant workers came to work and live. After that, another of my profs is probably (pending approval) going to run a field school on some First Nations (Natives) territory on the west coast of the island I live on. I am hoping to get into that as well, it would meaning going out into the bush for about a month or so. Both profs who are running these programs are quite fond of me and have told me that if it is up to them I will certainly get in to these programs (one, the technicians program, has only 13 spots open; the fieldschool would not admit many more than that either, so they're both quite competitive in regards to admitance. Which is fine by me, because I get good grade and my profs seem to like me - first time for everything I guess).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
The legends and mythologies would mainly fall under the domain of cultural anthropology; I've taken several cultural anthropology courses, but unfortunately I have found them to be hit or miss depending on the prof. The last cultural class I took was dubbed, not surprisingly, cultural anthropology, but due to the teacher often the class would decend into a feminist diatribe (I'm in another of her classes this term in which she put up a picture of the female reproductive system and desribed it as looking like a "beautiful moth" ::**. I thought it looked kind of like a mishaped goats head, but I wisely kept my mouth shut), which really turned me off of the class. It was for her class that I wrote a paper about Saddoboxing.com as a social group. I hope she doesn't read this.
Also, when we actually were learning about different cultures etc. instead of giving us a cross-section of different cultures (which myself and many others would have prefered) she instead focus on only one culture, the Chillihuanian people of the Peruvian Andes, where she and a friend of hers had done their fieldwork (her friends book, Growing Up In A Culture of Respect, was a required text book for the class). It was interesting, all though it was written from a child-rearing perspective. We learned all about their culture and believes, myths etc. which was really cool IMO, but like I said I would have prefered to learn about more than one culture in a class name cultural anthropology.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
Hey guys thaks for all the replies. I've got part 2 to download now thanks Dizaster, I just needed to close Mozilla and reboot and it camed down ok then.
Not had time to watch either yet but I'm going to get into bed now and watch at the least the first DVD in a minute.
@CFH The course you are on does sound really interesting. I'd have loved the opportunity to do something like that when I went to uni. It wasn't an option for me, the closest I could get was theology which I hated because I had studied myself further than they tought us. They fed us a load of crap about the composition of the Bible and how it was put together that completely missed the point in my oipinion.
The trouble with studying the Bible or one of the evolutionary sciences is that depending on your own beliefs the evidence gets interpereted in completely different ways and are completely incompatible with each other.
Therefore it put in me a quandry as I didn't want to work within the Church, but I DO believe the Biblical account of our history and so I wouldn't really fit into either school of learning.
I find much of the teaching's of man to be arrogant and completely biased but at the same time I find the teaching's of Christian's to be flakey and a little bit crazy.
So I'm probably not cut out for study in either secular or biblical institutions.
Still I find it all absolutely fascinating, and just love history, religions, philosophy, science etc.
It's great to see other people on here who share the same interests. CC's to everyone :)
ha good vid! I think these shaymen and yogi's are a seriously freaky bunch!Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Did you ever hear about the guy who didn't eat or drink for 40 years? It was on the BBC website last year. He actually agreed to be tested by scientists who kept him under observation for two weeks during which time he didn't eat or drink anything!
I'm trying to find the link but I don't know what he was called so it's difficult.
Freaky stuff though.
CC back Bilbo. I'm taking a class right now that looks to be very interesting, its called Culture, Heath, and Illness and its about how different cultures percieve and treat illness. So far its really interesting, the prof is doing a better job in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I think I might have seen a short story on that a few years ago... From what I remember of the story I saw, the guy was able to curb his appetites, both mentally and 'physically' through a deep meditation which was able to provide his body with the essential things that it needed to survive.. Absolutely amazing...Quote:
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All this stuff is actually why I didn't mind the original Alien vs Predator movie... It's a gigantic stretch to say that it's at all based on history.. But it brings a little more meaning to the movie other than just one horror movie bad guy taking on another horror movie bad guy....
(If you have seen it, scientists find an ancient pyramid under a mile of ice on Antarctica which has somehow become 'active' due to a certain cycle in time passing, where the Predators return to earth and compete in a 'training game' against the Aliens.. At one small point in the movie it goes off on a little tangent showing how the 'predators' helped build the pyramids and gave the ancients their extraordinary technology..) You wouldn't exactly use it for a point of reference for our real history, but it definetly gave the movie a lot more character.. Enough so that I enjoyed it even though the rest of the story was pretty flat..)
I actually wondered right up until now why I didn't mind this movie while others were saying it sucked,,,, but I now realise it's definetly because of the movies reference to the history that intrigues me so much.