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Has There Ever Been Such A High Demand?
Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
You can check any boxing site and all you hear is how this fight needs to be made. There isnt a bigger fight in any weight class and to say there the money won't be there is just crazy.
Everyone would buy this fight and these guys are both still in their prime so we would actually see a real fight and there would be no built in excuses due to long layoffs or previous fights had taken their toll, etc........
This needs to happen and it needs to happen now. If floyd takes another fight, it's an absolute joke and he would be making a mockery of the p4p label.
This Fight Can't Get Any Bigger!
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I thought Calzaghe/Kessler among fight enthusiasts was a fight that HAD to be made.
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I think there was massive demand for PBF v Hatton.
As Boozeboxer said Joe C v Kessler had huge demand.
When Pavlik KTFO Miranda there was huge demand for him to fight Taylor.
Hopkins v Joe C has huge demand also.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
The only reason this is not as high a demand as fights mentioned above, is the lack of mainstream media coverage but there is no doubt that this fight, is a fight boxing fans want to see. Floyd already robbed the fans by not fighting Tony Margarito. Will he rob the fans again by fighting more midgets or old rich cross dressers? LOL I hope not.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
The only reason this is not as high a demand as fights mentioned above, is the lack of mainstream media coverage but there is no doubt that this fight, is a fight boxing fans want to see. Floyd already robbed the fans by not fighting Tony Margarito. Will he rob the fans again by fighting more midgets or old rich cross dressers? LOL I hope not.
Don't forget Mosely was older than Oscar and Judah is, in the words of Mike Tyson, an 'infantile retard' lol so your boy isn't much better ;)
But regardless you are right that this fight needs to be made and the longer Floyd puts it off the more chance Cotto has of a huge upset..He needs to take this fight this year or at the latest, early next year.
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It needs to happen. I'd take Floyd to win but on this board both have support so it would be very intersting to see. But don't hold your breath.
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Has there ever been such a high demand? Hell yeah,the fights Pea mentioned. Is ther demand for any fight more than that one now? Absolutely not.
(apart from maybe Calderon v Solis and Hasegawa v Sidorenko!Or is that just me ???)
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
You have to be kidding right? You can check anywhere and that is the fight every1 wants so you are wrong on this one.
BTW, there are alot more people in the world now than there were then. ;D
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
You have to be kidding right? You can check anywhere and that is the fight every1 wants so you are wrong on this one.
BTW, there are alot more people in the world now than there were then. ;D
If I'm wrong, then tell me which of the fights I listed had less demand than Floyd-Cotto.
As I said, Floyd-Cotto is the most in-demand fight AT THE MOMENT, but if you're saying that it's the most anticipated fight ever, then you're out of your mind. The majority of the American public doesn't even know who Miguel Cotto is.
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Lets give Bx330NY a break. We all really want to see this fight and although historically it will never live to those of the past, (cultural reasons if anything else)......we can all relate to the enthusiasm.
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Lets give Bx330NY a break. We all really want to see this fight and although historically it will never live to those of the past, (cultural reasons if anything else)......we can all relate to the enthusiasm.
He started a thread asking if there had ever been a fight with this much demand. All I see here are people giving him honest answers to the question he posed. I don't see how people are giving him an unfairly hard time. He asked a question... people gave their honest answers.
Floyd and Cotto are probably my two favorite fighters in the sport right now. I've said a ton of times I want to see this fight more than anything else in 2008. But from a historical perspective, it's just not on the same level of anticipation as other fights from the past. That's just the truth.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
You can check any boxing site and all you hear is how this fight needs to be made. There isnt a bigger fight in any weight class and to say there the money won't be there is just crazy.
Everyone would buy this fight and these guys are both still in their prime so we would actually see a real fight and there would be no built in excuses due to long layoffs or previous fights had taken their toll, etc........
This needs to happen and it needs to happen now. If floyd takes another fight, it's an absolute joke and he would be making a mockery of the p4p label.
This Fight Can't Get Any Bigger!
I think we are getting a bit out of hand here
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Oscar De La Hoya will tell you that it's hard to pass up 15 million dollor pay checks, Floyd is finally in the mainstream and his last two fight he has made the mega money that he has looked for throughout his career, you guy's must be crazy if you think he will pass up another big money fight, the guy said it on 24/7 " Hey if the money's right anything can happen", expect Floyd to take another big check from Cotto
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I think Floyd's quasi-retirement is actually a good plan.
You can make cases for Floyd to fight Miguel Cotto AND Paul Williams and both have good cases though Miguel has the best right now.
If Floyd was to go in right away and fight Cotto and win or lose he would probably end up having to fight Paul Williams eventually.
If Floyd waits Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams will probably fight each other and more than likely that fight will #1 leave one victor and therefore one reasonable opponent for Floyd to face and #2 Take a lot out of both fighters as their styles match up for an all out war.
That being the case the loser might fancy a move up to 154 especially if it's Williams and Floyd Mayweather Jr. would then only HAVE to fight one guy if he returned because we all know he's not going to fight any higher than 154 unless he's fighting De la Hoya again.
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im a 100% sure now that this fight will take place if not late this year, it'll be next year. floyd is just buying his time trying to earn as much money by beating smaller hatton fighting goldenboy again then once he feel he has sqeeze enough cash out of boxing then he'll have no choice but to take the risk of fighting cotto for one big purse. Im sure he knows cotto brings in as much as hatton maybe even more.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
You have to be kidding right? You can check anywhere and that is the fight every1 wants so you are wrong on this one.
BTW, there are alot more people in the world now than there were then. ;D
If I'm wrong, then tell me which of the fights I listed had less demand than Floyd-Cotto.
As I said, Floyd-Cotto is the most in-demand fight AT THE MOMENT, but if you're saying that it's the most anticipated fight ever, then you're out of your mind. The majority of the American public doesn't even know who Miguel Cotto is.
If you were around to know to know exactly how high the demand was for Ali v Frasier than your too old and senile to know what your talking about.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
You have to be kidding right? You can check anywhere and that is the fight every1 wants so you are wrong on this one.
BTW, there are alot more people in the world now than there were then. ;D
If I'm wrong, then tell me which of the fights I listed had less demand than Floyd-Cotto.
As I said, Floyd-Cotto is the most in-demand fight AT THE MOMENT, but if you're saying that it's the most anticipated fight ever, then you're out of your mind. The majority of the American public doesn't even know who Miguel Cotto is.
If you were around to know to know exactly how high the demand was for Ali v Frasier than your too old and senile to know what your talking about.
Let me get this straight.... are you saying that Mayweather-Cotto is more antcipated right now than Ali-Frazier was back in 1970-1971??
Because if that's what you're saying, then that's the single most outrageous thing I've ever read on this site, no offense.
It's interesting that you'd start a thread with a question... "Has there ever been such a high demand?".... and then when people give you an honest response to the question that you asked... you say they must be senile for giving that answer.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
You have to be kidding right? You can check anywhere and that is the fight every1 wants so you are wrong on this one.
BTW, there are alot more people in the world now than there were then. ;D
If I'm wrong, then tell me which of the fights I listed had less demand than Floyd-Cotto.
As I said, Floyd-Cotto is the most in-demand fight AT THE MOMENT, but if you're saying that it's the most anticipated fight ever, then you're out of your mind. The majority of the American public doesn't even know who Miguel Cotto is.
If you were around to know to know exactly how high the demand was for Ali v Frasier than your too old and senile to know what your talking about.
Let me get this straight.... are you saying that Mayweather-Cotto is more antcipated right now than Ali-Frazier was back in 1970-1971??
Because if that's what you're saying, then that's the single most outrageous thing I've ever read on this site, no offense.
It's interesting that you'd start a thread with a question... "Has there ever been such a high demand?".... and then when people give you an honest response to the question that you asked... you say they must be senile for giving that answer.
I agree sweetpea. I thought Bc730 was just excited about the fight......which we all are... But this is strange.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
But mentioning those four fights and the demand was in RETROSPECT. At the time, there was demand because no one was bigger than those guys. No one is bigger than Floyd right now, but there isn't a guy who comes near Floyd to give it the demand those fights have. But definitely right now the highest demand is Floyd vs. Cotto.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
Sure, there have been tons of fights over the years with more demand than Floyd-Cotto.
Ali-Frazier
Leonard-Hagler
Leonard-Hearns
Tyson-Holyfield
I could list a ton more if I thought about it. Floyd-Cotto is the most anticipated fight
right now, but that's it. From a historical perspective, it's not in that high of a demand.
You have to be kidding right? You can check anywhere and that is the fight every1 wants so you are wrong on this one.
BTW, there are alot more people in the world now than there were then. ;D
If I'm wrong, then tell me which of the fights I listed had less demand than Floyd-Cotto.
As I said, Floyd-Cotto is the most in-demand fight AT THE MOMENT, but if you're saying that it's the most anticipated fight ever, then you're out of your mind. The majority of the American public doesn't even know who Miguel Cotto is.
If you were around to know to know exactly how high the demand was for Ali v Frasier than your too old and senile to know what your talking about.
Let me get this straight.... are you saying that Mayweather-Cotto is more antcipated right now than Ali-Frazier was back in 1970-1971??
Because if that's what you're saying, then that's the single most outrageous thing I've ever read on this site, no offense.
It's interesting that you'd start a thread with a question... "Has there ever been such a high demand?".... and then when people give you an honest response to the question that you asked... you say they must be senile for giving that answer.
Let me tell you something wisea$$, I wasn't even born in 70-71 so don't count me in as one of the guys that acts like he knows what was going on back then or even try to compare fighters of different eras.
I'm talking about what I have seen personally. I don't speculate or imagine. All I can tell you is that as long as I've been watching boxing, I haven't heard a more unanimous response in regards to who should be fighting. With all the internet activity going on these days, all you have to do is look around and you will easily see how the boxing fans have come together again to sing in chorus. And you want to know what song we are all singing? Cotto vs Mayweather
Sorry to those that thought I was talking about the history of boxing, but why would I say something I don't know squat about?
sweetpea, I dont know how old you are but if you were around for that then good for you.
From what I've noticed in this forum in my three years, most people in here are around my age and I thought they would answer about what they have seen personally.
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Seriously guys. Has there ever a higher demand for a fight than Cotto vs floyd?
You can check any boxing site and all you hear is how this fight needs to be made. There isnt a bigger fight in any weight class and to say there the money won't be there is just crazy.
Everyone would buy this fight and these guys are both still in their prime so we would actually see a real fight and there would be no built in excuses due to long layoffs or previous fights had taken their toll, etc........
This needs to happen and it needs to happen now. If floyd takes another fight, it's an absolute joke and he would be making a mockery of the p4p label.
This Fight Can't Get Any Bigger!
I AGREE 100% NONE OF THE OTHER FIGHTS MENTIONED ON HERE IS CREATING THE BUZZ THAT COTTO/PBF WAS MAKING OVER THE PAST 4-6 MONTHS. BUZZ USUALLY TRANSLATE INTO SALES/VIEWERS, AND CALZAGHEv.KESSLER WAS NOT WELL VIEWED GLOBALLY. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT COTTO/MAYWEATHER WILL HAVE A MASSIVE WORLDWIDE APPEAL, AND I BELIEVE IT WILL SURPASS ALL STANDING PPV RECORDS... THIS IS WHY THEY ARE DRAGGING THEIR FEET AND DOING MINI-'RETIREMENTS. ' (PARDON THE CAPS)
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I'm talking about what I have seen personally. I don't speculate or imagine. All I can tell you is that as long as I've been watching boxing, I haven't heard a more unanimous response in regards to who should be fighting. With all the internet activity going on these days, all you have to do is look around and you will easily see how the boxing fans have come together again to sing in chorus. And you want to know what song we are all singing? Cotto vs Mayweather
That may all be true, but initially you said "this fight can't get any bigger." That's hardly true. Maybe it can't get any bigger among hardcore fans, but the "chorus" of hardcore fans who post on Internet boxing Web sites don't make $100 million fights. More people saw the Oscar v. Floyd PPV than know who Miguel Cotto is outside of Puerto Rico.
All good fights since the invention of the Internet creates big Internet buzz among hardcore fans -- Calzaghe-Kessler, Pac-JMM -- getting excited about this stuff is why they are hardcore fans. But an Oscar-Floyd rematch would still be a much bigger fight in terms of dollars and overall interest from the public. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
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I'm talking about what I have seen personally. I don't speculate or imagine. All I can tell you is that as long as I've been watching boxing, I haven't heard a more unanimous response in regards to who should be fighting. With all the internet activity going on these days, all you have to do is look around and you will easily see how the boxing fans have come together again to sing in chorus. And you want to know what song we are all singing? Cotto vs Mayweather
That may all be true, but initially you said "this fight can't get any bigger." That's hardly true. Maybe it can't get any bigger among hardcore fans, but the "chorus" of hardcore fans who post on Internet boxing Web sites don't make $100 million fights. More people saw the Oscar v. Floyd PPV than know who Miguel Cotto is outside of Puerto Rico.
All good fights since the invention of the Internet creates big Internet buzz among hardcore fans -- Calzaghe-Kessler, Pac-JMM -- getting excited about this stuff is why they are hardcore fans. But an Oscar-Floyd rematch would still be a much bigger fight in terms of dollars and overall interest from the public. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
THANK YOU. This is exactly what I'm saying. And the fights I listed (Ali-Frazier, Hagler-Leonard, etc.) had the interests of both the hardcore fans AND the general public.
Bx... just so you know, I wasn't alive in 1970 or 1971, I wouldn't be born for another 10 years. But anyone who has spent one second learning the history of the sport knows that Ali-Frazier had more demand than Floyd-Cotto. That's why it was called, "The Fight of the Century."
If you want a recent example of a fight that got more widespread media demand and buzz than Mayweather-Cotto will:
Lewis-Tyson
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If you want a recent example of a fight that got more widespread media demand and buzz than Mayweather-Cotto will:
Lewis-Tyson
If you want a recent example of a fight that did a lot more ppv's than Mayweather-Cotto will:
Mayweather-De La Hoya.
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I thought Calzaghe/Kessler among fight enthusiasts was a fight that HAD to be made.
:coolclick: Eggs-zackree!
Calzaghe vs Kessler was a must.
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I thought Calzaghe/Kessler among fight enthusiasts was a fight that HAD to be made.
:coolclick: Eggs-zackree!
Calzaghe vs Kessler was a must.
So is Cotto vs floyd
