what's this OSCAR PBF rematch crap!!!!

boxrec has it possibly for sept of this year...this is absurd

Ah well it least it will mean Oscar ends his career 4 of his last 6 fights.

Hopefully his embarrasing pictures of him in ladies clothing will turn off his fans and a rematch won't make him half as much money as before.

What these two boxers do not understand is that boxing is entertainment and this fight will not be as entertaining or in high demand as the first. Yeah, it will get interest because the casual fan believes de la Hoya is great, even though he hasn't been great for awhile, and Mayweather's personality is intriguing. But I will personally boycott this fight and not contribute to the de la Hoya enrichment fund and the Floyd Mayweather retirment fund. They will not play me for a sucker again!!

i actually think it will be a much better fight than the ist one---dlh knows its a winnable fight for him and im not sure he really felt that way the 1st time around. i think he knows if he trains harder and commits to the jab he can really win.

on the flip side pbf knows he must step it up and be more active in a rematch. he survived a close shave the 1st time and he knows he cant gamble like that again and fight the same fight.

so there will be more action in this fight i believe with dlh throwing the jab more often and floys trying to flurry more and throw more combos rather than 1 puch at a time

this will open up the fight more and we may even see a kayo finish

I think this is still an interesting fight, especially when the other option is Mayweather retiring for 2 years. Yes i know Cotto is out there but Floyd aint fighting him until it becomes a mega fight.....and that's probably not until 2009.

This time round Oscar will feel he knows exactly how to win. He knows exactly why he didn't win last time.

At the end of the day the fight went to a split and a lot of folk on here believed that Oscar won and the fight was pretty good, so i don't see the problem with a rematch.

I don't agree with those who say Oscar is done. Sure he's been inactive and he's promoting more than he's fighting but he stil absolutely brutalised Mayorga and then took Mayweather to a split. I'm looking forward to it anyway. :)

I dont know why everyone is so strongly against this fight, its not like the first was a whitewash or anything. Oscar gave Mayweather more problems than most people could and is probably one of the few people in the world with even a chance of beating him.
I really hope this fight happens and I'll be cheering for De La Hoya all the way.

As for all the people who are saying they have no interest and wouldnt even watch the rematch - well thats just bullshit isnt it? How can a boxing fan not watch the pound for pound best fighter in the sport today fight an all time great like Oscar?

If the first fight was something like Holyfield vs Lewis I, Morales vs Pcaquiao II and III, etc. Then yeah, I would also be like "Who would really want to see that fight again?!" But Oscar and Floyd were pretty close, no wonder it was a split and still many boxing experts comment on how the fight could have been Oscar's. There are more fights out there from Floyd that even if he doesn't KO the guy he convincingly shows that he deserved the decision. His fight against Oscar simply doesn't.

I'll say that the guys that have caused more trouble or given more challenge to Floyd so far has been Jose Luis Castillo I (which many boxing experts think Castillo got robbed) and ODLH.

Cotto vs Floyd? That is a fight I wouldn't really want to watch. It would just be another decision for Floyd, maybe even a KO.

CC Ono i feel the same way about DLH and CC Beer Jelly cos I would love to see a rematch.

I actually really enjoyed the first fight..ok not alot happened but take the factors into consideration..the weight,PBF wasn't about to trade to toe was he? And DLH's Gameplan and problem of fading down the stretch, what were you expecting?

And I feel DLH could take the rematch...If he keeps the Jab up...he could have so easily have got the decision if he kept that jab going in the last rounds.

I actually did not think the first fight was close at all, and I don't think this fight is at all winnable for Oscar. His problem wasn't that he abandoned the jab; it was that HE DIDN'T LAND ANYTHING. He's not going to be able to change that.

That said, I don't really mind this fight, and I'm not remotely surprised that it's happening. This should make it all the more clear to Cotto and Williams that they're not getting a Floyd fight this year, and that they need to fight each other. I have no doubt that Floyd will take the winner of that fight after he beats Oscar again.

But here's my question: will PBF/DLH take place at 147 or 154?? Oscar's been saying ever since the last fight that he's coming back down to welter. But if he actually does that, he has even less of a chance to win.

It's not a question of if oscar will loose, but how bad this time. Horrible match up there are tons of people both of these guys could and should be fighting instead.

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It's not a question of if oscar will loose, but how bad this time. Horrible match up there are tons of people both of these guys could and should be fighting instead.

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I actually did not think the first fight was close at all, and I don't think this fight is at all winnable for Oscar. His problem wasn't that he abandoned the jab; it was that HE DIDN'T LAND ANYTHING. He's not going to be able to change that.

That said, I don't really mind this fight, and I'm not remotely surprised that it's happening. This should make it all the more clear to Cotto and Williams that they're not getting a Floyd fight this year, and that they need to fight each other. I have no doubt that Floyd will take the winner of that fight after he beats Oscar again.

But here's my question: will PBF/DLH take place at 147 or 154?? Oscar's been saying ever since the last fight that he's coming back down to welter. But if he actually does that, he has even less of a chance to win.

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I totally agree i didn't think the fight was close either, i had Mayweather clearly winning by 3 or 4 rounds. If the rematch does go through then Mayweather should make ODLH follow his demands this time.

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I think this is still an interesting fight, especially when the other option is Mayweather retiring for 2 years. Yes i know Cotto is out there but Floyd aint fighting him until it becomes a mega fight.....and that's probably not until 2009.

This time round Oscar will feel he knows exactly how to win. He knows exactly why he didn't win last time.

At the end of the day the fight went to a split and a lot of folk on here believed that Oscar won and the fight was pretty good, so i don't see the problem with a rematch.

I don't agree with those who say Oscar is done. Sure he's been inactive and he's promoting more than he's fighting but he stil absolutely brutalised Mayorga and then took Mayweather to a split. I'm looking forward to it anyway. :)

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I totally disagree not a lot of people on here had ODLH only a few did, and when they watched it again and see how many punches ODLH missed they quickly changed there mind. And just because the fight was SD doesn't mean it was razor thin close which it wasn't, And you say ODLH knows what he has to do to win this time but what is that exactly ?? the jab ?? that won't be as effective this time because Mayweather will counter his jab with counter right hands over the top like he did last time later in the fight, only this time he will do it earlier in the fight, plus Mayweather has countered over his opponent's jab's through out his whole career, thats one of the reason's ODLH become cautious with his jab. Pressure fighting ?? that won't work either ODLH has never been a great pressure fighter and even when ODLH pressed the action he landed hardly any punches, Mayweather has dealt with all types of pressure fighting so i can't see how ODLH can win that way either, out boxing Mayweather ?? not a chance in hell so explain to me how ODLH can win this fight ??

if this fight pulls through floyd is wasting his chance to be remember as an all time great fighter. this fight will just prove his greed for the green not his hunger for greatness.

i like floyd as a fighter, his very skilled but this is the reason why i'll never like him as much as i like guys like pac,pavlik, and cotto. floyd just keeps carrying that bad ora of hand picker for me and now he is looking more greedy then ever.

i thought the first fight was close but i think floyd is the type that will always be a lot better in any rematch which means if this fight pulls through it will be a clear u.d. And im sure, majority of the fans that will buy into this rematch will only be into it in hope for an oscar win so when it does end, people will feel robbed and dissapointed cause im sure floyd will beat oscar up worst then before.

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if this fight pulls through floyd is wasting his chance to be remember as an all time great fighter. this fight will just prove his greed for the green not his hunger for greatness.

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Just like Pac's rematch with an old Mab in which MAB lost his previous fight to JMM but Pac fought him anyway even tho the 1st fight was a total mismatch and he TKO'D Barrera... That is blatant hypocrisy ::**

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if this fight pulls through floyd is wasting his chance to be remember as an all time great fighter. this fight will just prove his greed for the green not his hunger for greatness.

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Just like Pac's rematch with an old Mab in which MAB lost his previous fight to JMM but Pac fought him anyway even tho the 1st fight was a total mismatch and he TKO'D Barrera... That is blatant hypocrisy ::**

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this is totally different, cause first of mab was actually in the division pac is. oscar is at 154 and floyd should be fighting and beating cotto,mosley,willaims, margarito at 147. Mab and oscar are totally different. before mab lost to pac the first time he had a great winning streak, then after he lost to pac he had another winning streak til he closely lost to jmm. Look man, i don't get why you pac haters always bring him up and then turn around and say us pac fan always bring him up. Oscar is more of a promoter and clearly a corrupt bastard, he and mab ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Mab was and is still competitive as a p4p FIGHTER!!!!!!!!!! oscar is NOT. oscar robbed sturm to fight bhop then got his ass knocked out and then he fought mayorga just like tito did for a so called career return in boxing, then he loses another big fight with floyd it may have been close but who the hell have really ask for a floyd and oscar rematch!!!!!!!??????????? i'll tell you, NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!! AND GUESS WHAT, wasn't it the same pac doubters that kept asking for a mab rematch!!!!????? you damn right, and when mab got it what did he do? he folded his cards cause what ever he do and he knew it pac will still own him. For years guys like you made up anything to discredit pac win over mab and its still continuous.

get it straight man, mab and oscar is totally different.

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keep telling yourself that bud ;)

I enjoyed the 1st fight, but I'm not sure the public wants a second one. I wish Floyd was fighting Cotto, but this is much more money.

That being said this will be a huge fight, these guys are marketing gurus. First, Floyd Sr. will be training Oscar. This should help the hype. Plus they are already talking about Oscar's farewell tour. With those added factors plus 24/7 this will be a huge fight.

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get it straight man, mab and oscar is totally different.

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yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

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yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

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there was no reason for a 2nd MAB fight.......... End of!!!! Just because Barrera beat an underachieving Rocky Juarez 2x who many thought the 1st was a draw and got switched to a SD ::** then lost to JMM How many rematches have you seen a fighter get granted who got his a** punished for 11 rounds and then KO'D is on the slide and gets a rematch with the other fighter????? 

Its the same FUKIN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

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there was no reason for a 2nd MAB fight.......... End of!!!! Just because Barrera beat an underachieving Rocky Juarez 2x who many thought the 1st was a draw and got switched to a SD ::** then lost to JMM How many rematches have you seen a fighter get granted who got his a** punished for 11 rounds and then KO'D is on the slide and gets a rematch with the other fighter?????

Its the same FUKIN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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answer me this, wasn't it true that people were asking for a mab pac rematch??????????????

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isn't it true that NOBODY has ask for a floyd oscar rematch???????

guess why j.t???? i'll give you a clue, CAUSE OSCAR IS JUST A MONEY HUNGRY MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!

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yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

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there was no reason for a 2nd MAB fight.......... End of!!!! Just because Barrera beat an underachieving Rocky Juarez 2x who many thought the 1st was a draw and got switched to a SD ::** then lost to JMM How many rematches have you seen a fighter get granted who got his a** punished for 11 rounds and then KO'D is on the slide and gets a rematch with the other fighter?????

Its the same FUKIN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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answer me this, wasn't it true that people were asking for a mab pac rematch??????????????

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isn't it true that NOBODY has ask for a floyd oscar rematch???????

guess why j.t???? i'll give you a clue, CAUSE OSCAR IS JUST A MONEY HUNGRY MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!

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AND many also thought that marco deserved a shot at pac again cause many did think he deserve to get the win over jmm. Mab got his shot first even though he lost but jmm is getting his too this march. its totally different, i don't know what your problem is i know ur a floyd fan. u must be just trying to bash pac cause his not as big of a ducker as your pretty boy. as a matter of fact pac has never duck nobody.

The first was close enough for this to be in demand by myself, i'm hoping it comes off.

There is absolutely no reason for these two to be fighting again. The first one wasn't close, it wasn't entertaining, and was nowhere near worth the price tag it was being offered for. The only thing I am interested in is how the HBO hype machine will try to advertise this fight. These guys were all talk in the 24/7 series with Mayweather promising a "f#$@ massacre" and Oscar urging Mayweather to "come to me" and then they get in the ring and jab each other for 12 rounds. No more than a glorified exhibition match.

These guys styles don't match up well and I think that the public won't be fooled again into thinking this will be a great fight. There are alot of other fighters I would rather see both boxers fighting before I would want to see a rematch.

Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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oscar has a chance because he's bigger, but shane is much more of a threat to floyd than oscar

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Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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maybe they're all thinking what oscar is

"last time it wasn't the night of the jab, this time it will be"

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Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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maybe they're all thinking what oscar is

"last time it wasn't the night of the jab, this time it will be"

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hahahah that was pretty pathetic, "it wasn't the night of the jab" thats oscars problem his not a warrior that just goes out and do the damn thing. he feels shyt out like a bitch. fighters don't give a damn if its not the night of the jabs. they say the hell with shyt and do what they do.plus floyds is too good to be beaten by a jab, wtf? after a few times it may tagg floyd but floyd is was to smart to get tagg enough to lose a fight. he'll eventually start countering over that jab.

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Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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maybe they're all thinking what oscar is

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It wasn't the night of the jab, because he was getting countered with right hands over the top of his jab, ODLH has never had someone do that to him before.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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What I am getting at is Oscar is better than almost anyone with a name FLoyd can fight, including Cotto. Oscar would eat Margarito alive. He would be Vernon too IMO. What does Cotto really have that Oscar doesn't, He goes to the body more and he doesn't fail down the stretch, but he is too much slower that Floyd would pick him apart eventually.

Also 116-112 is the most the Oscar-Mayweather could be? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should rewatch the fight... Mayweather landed about 80 more punches that Oscar and not all in one round. He beat Oscar in almost every round, and almost anyone who knows how to score a fight could see that.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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What I am getting at is Oscar is better than almost anyone with a name FLoyd can fight, including Cotto. Oscar would eat Margarito alive. He would be Vernon too IMO. What does Cotto really have that Oscar doesn't, He goes to the body more and he doesn't fail down the stretch, but he is too much slower that Floyd would pick him apart eventually.

Also 116-112 is the most the Oscar-Mayweather could be? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should rewatch the fight... Mayweather landed about 80 more punches that Oscar and not all in one round. He beat Oscar in almost every round, and almost anyone who knows how to score a fight could see that.

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I don't see Oscar beating Vernon or Margarito.Can't be bothered to get into it. And I said THE BEST Oscar did. I.E it wasn't any closer than that,116-112,no closer than that.. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

The thing is...

I know this is a b.s. money magnet fight but I still want to watch it. I guess that is why it's a "money magnet."

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Name a better opponent than Oscar in terms of having a chance of beating Mayweather besides Williams who won't be touched until he makes a name for himself. Truly Oscar is the best guy Mayweather can fight, and he makes Mayweather the most money especially if Floyd Sr. is in his corner which is what a lot of people are saying.

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I don't know what you are basing that on at all. I'm not seeing the logic there bro. Oscar got the fight the first time and all these concessions:

Fight was at 154

He got the ring he wanted

The gloves

and still the best he did was 116-112 loss by anyone that can score.

Now Floyd is bigger in terms of PPV and won the first fight,he does not have to make concessions. So the fight could be at 147 v a weight drained Oscar.

Who could give Floyd a tough fight(I'm not saying I'd want to see these fights but...)Spinks,Forrest,Margarito,Williams,Cotto. All,imo would do better than Oscar the first time. I have zero interest in this fight.

WHat makes this ironic is Oscar never was a pressure fighter,hasn't used his straight right hand to good effect in years and couldn't use the jab. So how can he win?>? I said these same things before the first fight and they apply equally here.No-one could refute these points and I'm pretty sure,no-one can now.

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What I am getting at is Oscar is better than almost anyone with a name FLoyd can fight, including Cotto. Oscar would eat Margarito alive. He would be Vernon too IMO. What does Cotto really have that Oscar doesn't, He goes to the body more and he doesn't fail down the stretch, but he is too much slower that Floyd would pick him apart eventually.

Also 116-112 is the most the Oscar-Mayweather could be? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should rewatch the fight... Mayweather landed about 80 more punches that Oscar and not all in one round. He beat Oscar in almost every round, and almost anyone who knows how to score a fight could see that.

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um nope. In the last rounds of the right I'd agree but not early on.

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yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

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get it straight man, mab and oscar is totally different.

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keep telling yourself that bud ;)

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yea exactly you ain't got nothing better to say. mab is not like oscar, oscar is a bitch marco is a warrior. oscar only does things to feed his greed more. can't believe you get the two twisted ooh never mind your a floyd fan. it makes sense now.

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because the rest of them fight for free don't they?

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uhh no, they also fight for history and honor. in oscars case his only still around for $$$$$$$. why em i not suprise your trying to reply to me thinking u have a smart point. ;)

This fight epitomises everything that is wrong in boxing. I thought the 2007 major match ups of Hatton Vs Mayweather, Cotto Vs Mosley, Pavlik Vs Taylor and Calzaghe Vs Kessler were a sign of things to come but to me this is just a huge step back. If you look at boxing history, rematches only happen for two reasons

1) It was a great fight and public want to see it again
2) The fight ended in controversy (Bad decisions, Bad stoppage, unfortunate cut)

DLH Vs PFB 1 was neither. It was a terrible fight and as for those people who say name some fighters who have more chance of beating PBF. It's not about that. He had his chance. He lost. So he should go to the back of the queue or fight a Cotto or Williams to prove his worth. It is as simple as that. If you want to take that argument to its extreme then Ali should have fought Frazier 10 times through the 70's because, well, he was one of only a few heavyweights who could have beaten Ali.

What it is with DLH ? The guy has lost three of his last five fights. Mayweather talks about leaving a legacy but if he fights DLH and not Cotto this will tarnish his reputation and if he loses (which he could do) then every ounce of respect that people have gotten for him after the Hatton fight will diminish. He has to fight Cotto or Williams

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This fight epitomises everything that is wrong in boxing. I thought the 2007 major match ups of Hatton Vs Mayweather, Cotto Vs Mosley, Pavlik Vs Taylor and Calzaghe Vs Kessler were a sign of things to come but to me this is just a huge step back. If you look at boxing history, rematches only happen for two reasons

1) It was a great fight and public want to see it again
2) The fight ended in controversy (Bad decisions, Bad stoppage, unfortunate cut)

DLH Vs PFB 1 was neither. It was a terrible fight and as for those people who say name some fighters who have more chance of beating PBF. It's not about that. He had his chance. He lost. So he should go to the back of the queue or fight a Cotto or Williams to prove his worth. It is as simple as that. If you want to take that argument to its extreme then Ali should have fought Frazier 10 times through the 70's because, well, he was one of only a few heavyweights who could have beaten Ali.

What it is with DLH ? The guy has lost three of his last five fights. Mayweather talks about leaving a legacy but if he fights DLH and not Cotto this will tarnish his reputation and if he loses (which he could do) then every ounce of respect that people have gotten for him after the Hatton fight will diminish. He has to fight Cotto or Williams

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I think you make some good points. The only thing I don't necessairly agree with is that it will tarnish mayweather's legacy. Floyd should fight Cotto at some point or else it will, but it doesn't have to be his next fight. If anything waiting to fight Cotto will benefit Cotto. I think Arum knows exactly what he is doing with Cotto. he is not hurrying him along, but he is not holding him back..he is picking Cotto's fight almost perfectly. I think he would want to wait at least 2 more fights to get Cotto in with Floyd.

I think DLH has shown why fighters becoming promoters isn't necessarily as "good" as a thing that many made it out to be. There is a lot of conflict of interest. You are right that DLH-PBF II is a fight that should NOT be made and I like the points you made about it.

Actually, the thing I like to most about Cotto is he is all fighter. He doesn't have a promotional bone in his body, just lets his "company" decide for him and he will fight whoever they pick. Fighters should fight and let the promoters promote! If all fighters were their own promoters, I think we would see less corruption outside the ring (judges) but more corruption IN the ring (taking dives, forcing rematches, purposefully creating trilogies, etc.)

its totally retarded--its not like the 1st fight was so close and it was controversial that pbf won. it was a 1 sided victory and the rematch is gonna be the same--who actually wants 2 c this?

It's exactly that...Craap!!! ;D