Forget about Mayweather-Cotto in 2008...

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya, who shattered box office records when they met last spring, are close to finishing a deal for a rematch, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com Wednesday.

"We are still discussing things but we have almost finalized it," said Schaefer, who heads De La Hoya's promotional company. "I think an announcement will be forthcoming."

Schaefer said the fight would be Sept. 13 or Sept. 20 on HBO pay-per-view.

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Not only are these guys fighting again, but they're going to fight so late in the year that it will be the only fight in 2008 for both of them. This is bad news, whether you are a Cotto fan, a Floyd fan, or just a boxing fan.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya, who shattered box office records when they met last spring, are close to finishing a deal for a rematch, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com Wednesday.

"We are still discussing things but we have almost finalized it," said Schaefer, who heads De La Hoya's promotional company. "I think an announcement will be forthcoming."

Schaefer said the fight would be Sept. 13 or Sept. 20 on HBO pay-per-view.

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Not only are these guys fighting again, but they're going to fight so late in the year that it will be the only fight in 2008 for both of them.

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Wonder if it's gonna be at Dodger Stadium?

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

This is bad news, whether you are a Cotto fan, a Floyd fan, or just a boxing fan.

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Well SweetPea I will say this.
It's bad news in the sense that we're gonna have to wait until 2009 BUUUUUUUT I'm happy cause the more the time passes the better the chances are for Cotto to beat PBF, IMO. People here say PBF can only beat himself, I agree with that.
But IMO the biggest "IT" factor that's against PBF is "TIME" the more the months go by and the less fighting hes doing will only hurt him in the long run.
So in retrospect it really isn't all that bad for me as I was hoping they wouldn't fight 'til 2009 cause that's when Cottos chances are better. Well better then fighting him this year since hes still fresh off the Hatton win.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Not only are these guys fighting again, but they're going to fight so late in the year that it will be the only fight in 2008 for both of them. This is bad news, whether you are a Cotto fan, a Floyd fan, or just a boxing fan.

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Yeah, this sucks, but it was inevitable. For this not to happen would be like Sly Stallone and Carl Weathers turning down Rocky II to go do Shakespeare in the park.

One thing is for sure. I will not spend a dime to see those 2 at it. and if it turns out a good fight FUCK IT I just watch the replay or download it from the secret place 8)

Dan Rafael of ESPN.COM, the most credible boxing reporter, is reporting that Floyd vs Oscar II is nearly a done deal:


The richest fight in boxing history is on the verge of getting a sequel.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya, who shattered box office records when they met last spring, are close to finishing a deal for a rematch, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com Wednesday.

"We are still discussing things but we have almost finalized it," said Schaefer, who heads De La Hoya's promotional company. "I think an announcement will be forthcoming."

Schaefer said the fight would be Sept. 13 or Sept. 20 on HBO pay-per-view. He said the site for Mayweather-De La Hoya II has not been settled but he is holding the September dates at the 27,000-seat Home Depot Center, the outdoor home to the Los Angeles Galaxy of Major League Soccer. He said other venues are also interested, including the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

A source also told ESPN.com Wednesday night that Dodger Stadium was interested in hosting the fight after L.A. native De La Hoya suggested he'd like to fight there before retiring.

Mayweather won a split decision to take De La Hoya's junior middleweight belt when they met May 5 at the MGM Grand.

The match between boxing's No. 1 fighter, Mayweather, and its greatest attraction, De La Hoya, was a success and, ultimately, a rematch was hard to pass up.

"Floyd is agreeable to do the fight and so is Oscar," Schaefer said. "Now it's just me working through everything."

Although De La Hoya has said he planned to return to the welterweight division and Mayweather is the welterweight world champion, Schaefer said the weight for a rematch hadn't been determined. He said it could be at a catch weight somewhere between the 147-pound welterweight division and 154-pound junior middleweight class.

"It's something we are discussing," he said.

Backed by five-months of promotion, which included an 11-city cross-country tour and HBO's reality series "De La Hoya/Mayweather 24/7," the first fight broke boxing box office records including total gross ($165 million); pay-per-view subscriptions (2.4 million); pay-per-view gross ($134.4 million) and live gate ($18,419,200).

Although the fight was panned by many for a lack of action and the rematch probably won't approach the numbers of the original, it still figures to do well.

De La Hoya had planned to return to the ring May 3, but didn't have an opponent. The prospect of facing British star Ricky Hatton, his first choice, evaporated when Mayweather returned to welterweight and knocked Hatton out in the 10th round on Dec. 8.

Welterweight titleholder Miguel Cotto was a darkhorse candidate to fight De La Hoya. Cotto promoter Bob Arum acknowledged it was unlikely. He spent Wednesday in New York meeting with HBO executives about an alternative plan for Cotto, who probably will fight in April, possibly against first-season "Contender" star Alfonso Gomez.

Hatton's lopsided defeat left Mayweather as De La Hoya's most lucrative opponent. But instead of facing him on Cinco De Mayo weekend, the rematch will move to the fall because Mayweather is taking a break after a grueling 2007 inside and out of the ring.

Mayweather's fights with De La Hoya and Hatton were the biggest of the year and the promotions were exhausting. He also found mainstream recognition during his fall run on the popular reality series "Dancing with the Stars."

A rematch with De La Hoya (38-5, 30 KOs) would delay Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs) jumping to mixed martial arts, which he has discussed with "Dancing with the Stars" pal and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, who also owns his own MMA promotional company.

Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser and close friend, was unavailable for comment.

With De La Hoya moving off May 3, it is possible that his friend and Golden Boy Promotions partner Shane Mosley could fight on the date instead.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.

Nobody wants to see floyd and old man oscar go at it again just so they can add more millions to the pile ::**


Disapointed in Floyd hear.

I know alot people are gonna be unhappy with this..but me personally I'd love to see a rematch.

I wish ODLH would just F****** retire. If he didn't exist, I guarantee you Mayweather would be fighting Cotto next because that would be the biggest money fight available. ODLH is just holding back the boxing universe because he is still the biggest pay day. The money is so great fighting ODLH that you can't really fault anyone for wanting to fight him. F*** all the catch weight bullshit, ODLH held the welterweight division hostage with all his bullshit claims about coming down to 147, so he should come down. If I'm Mayweather, I'm telling ODLH "Look bitch, you're not making any type of crazy money without me, and I proved it with 2.4 Million PPVs, I beat you, I'm the champion, I'm the next biggest PPV star in boxing, I want 65/35, you're coming down to 147, I'm wearing whatever gloves I feel like wearing, and we're fighting in a huge ring." If Floyd takes 50/50 or let's ODLH get the lion share, he's an idiot.

But on a side note, I think that barring a defeat against ODLH and anyone defeating Cotto, Floyd will be fighting Cotto in the summer of 2009 at MSG. But I seriously think Floyd should also be worried about staying inactive for close to a year and fighting these old guys.

I CAN say that I'm already excited for this 24/7 PBF/ODLH II. I can just imagine Floyd having someone dressing up in women's clothing and sparring with him.

In my opinion ,if this fight comes this guys going put it down all the CREDIBILITY of boxing .... Why they dont fight with other CHAMPS or unify the title. I hearded lot of fanatic that the last fight of them was a crap of fight they didnt like it specially me either, i hope that they keep the ESSENCIAL of boxing. 8)

Are we going the way of Glamore boxing now??Call me cynical but another "celebrity" big name money grab fight.So Floyd beats "I need to step the f!!! asside" Oscar.....even more clearly......SO WHAT!
And Oscar pulls off the upset,dont hold your breath.......oh goody a trilogy.Cintron,Cotto,Clottey,Margarito,etc.etc. must be delt with!

I think DeLaHypa is becoming a diva king in an ivory tower.Take your ego and stop insisting on bringing us backwards.

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Originally Posted by Puya

One thing is for sure. I will not spend a dime to see those 2 at it. and if it turns out a good fight F*** IT I just watch the replay or download it from the secret place 8)

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;D CC Im agree with you ,in my opinion they going put it down the CREDIBILITY of boxing. 8)

Can you say conflict of interest? OUR interest.

I see them in a room rubbing there hands together laughing there ass's off.

its a shame really. i was expecting mayweather to really step up this year and fight the best welters. looks like it ain't happening

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Originally Posted by ds91

its a shame really. i was expecting mayweather to really step up this year and fight the best welters. looks like it ain't happening

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i agree ds. this really is a shame. a good fight, yeah, but ignoring the 1000 pound gorilla when you're pfp#1 simply isnt fair to boxing.

I can just see Oscar's motivation for this. "Damn I had to pay Ricky big bucks last time, now I will have to pay Cotto next" ...light bulb flashes over his head Wait a minute, I will fight Floyd again instead! I am a superstar and I will pay myself whatever I want!! ...ding ding ding sound

sucks but it was inevitable really.

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Originally Posted by Irish Rover

Nobody wants to see floyd and old man oscar go at it again just so they can add more millions to the pile ::**

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But that's kind of the point isn't it? They wouldn't both want to do this fight if people didn't care because it wouldn't bring in the huge money. We on this forum might not care but obviously if its the biggest money fight in boxing, people care or it wouldn't bring in that type of money, PPV buys, etc.

Sure it won't be as highly anticipated as the first one was but it will still be a huge event.

What a hideous and pointless matchup. Floyd has already beaten him with ease and a rematch would just be further apart.

I will NOT watch this if it comes off. Nothing more I can do than switch off and voice my displeasure.

Mayweather and Cotto need to get it on and stop bullshating, Beating Oscar want do shat but add money to the bank account

The first promotional image!

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Originally Posted by CountryBoy

Mayweather and Cotto need to get it on and stop bullshating, Beating Oscar want do shat but add money to the bank account

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A catch weight too...what is the point in Oscar going down from 154 to face Mayweather. He already failed miserably with every advantage he could muster. Mayweather would have him bouncing off all 4 turnbuckles below 154.

If DLH get the same advantages as last time and does exactly the same thing expect keep throwing the jab in the last rounds the judges will probably give him the decision....could have happened last time. It wasn't close but DLH "looked" like he was doing something.

Would anyone be bothered if Mayweathers first lose came via a dodgy decision.....I wouldn't :)

I dred all the crap we are gonna to have to sit through till sept while they try to build this fight up. All the 24/7 type hype all over again trying to convince us oscar will win this time and the hundreds of reasons why. Oscar will try to throw the jab more this time floyd will know that and beat him again easier than the first time. Worst is i can't criticize any of the probably tons of videos and stuff danny is going to make leading up to this if it goes thru since i will be disappointed for once with floyd as well. I hoped floyd actually would retire or take some time off but at the very least if he is going to come back it could be against cotto.

Next he'll want to give hatton a rematch too....robbing us of both a cotto showdown for floyd and witter showdown for hatton. Say it aint so floyd, we don't want to see this again....well i don't, in case i have any influence.

The next best fight then is Cotto vs Paul Williams. I think Cotto and his fans are scared of this Fight. Cotto is the best in the division, Paul is #2. The 2 best fighters fighting is always a good thing, But Cotto is avoiding Tall Paul just like everyone else in the division. They all want to be #1 but they cant beat the #2 guy. Avoid Paul at all cost is the cry in 08. Floyd,Citron,Cotto are all scared to death. THE BOOGIE MAN COMETH.

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

The first promotional image!

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Oh i forgot to mention cc for this. It had me laughing !

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Originally Posted by uwey

The next best fight then is Cotto vs Paul Williams. I think Cotto and his fans are scared of this Fight. Cotto is the best in the division, Paul is #2. The 2 best fighters fighting is always a good thing, But Cotto is avoiding Tall Paul just like everyone else in the division. They all want to be #1 but they cant beat the #2 guy. Avoid Paul at all cost is the cry in 08. Floyd,Citron,Cotto are all scared to death. THE BOOGIE MAN COMETH.

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Why would a fan of Cotta be afraid of him facing Williams? If you are a fan of a fighter, you should want fights like that. I am a fan of Cotto and would love to see that fight. If he wins, great, if he loses, better luck next time. Same goes for Williams. I would rather see my favorite fighters fight the best and get their asses handed to them, than to see them fighting unworthy opponents and wasting their talent.

I also guarantee that Cotto or even most fighters worth their weight are not afraid of fighting anyone else, you can blame that on the promoter's etc.

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

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Oh i forgot to mention cc for this. It had me laughing !

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CC back Mar ;D

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Originally Posted by Mar

Next he'll want to give hatton a rematch too....robbing us of both a cotto showdown for floyd and witter showdown for hatton. Say it aint so floyd, we don't want to see this again....well i don't, in case i have any influence.

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Hatton will never go back to Welterweight so i doubt that will happen.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

sucks but it was inevitable really.

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Originally Posted by Irish Rover

Nobody wants to see floyd and old man oscar go at it again just so they can add more millions to the pile ::**

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But that's kind of the point isn't it? They wouldn't both want to do this fight if people didn't care because it wouldn't bring in the huge money. We on this forum might not care but obviously if its the biggest money fight in boxing, people care or it wouldn't bring in that type of money, PPV buys, etc.

Sure it won't be as highly anticipated as the first one was but it will still be a huge event.

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Yeah but my point is Ouma, Floyd doesnt need the money, he needs to shut the doubters up and build himself a legacy by proving that he can beat the best at his weight level.

Now dont get me wrong, Im a huge floyd fan and I think people are far too quick to criticize him but this is just very disapointing.


When I said "nobody" I was really referring to boxing fans. He'll gain millions from it but he hardly needs it and that is all we will gain....plus he stands to lose a lot.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

sucks but it was inevitable really.

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Originally Posted by Irish Rover

Nobody wants to see floyd and old man oscar go at it again just so they can add more millions to the pile ::**

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But that's kind of the point isn't it? They wouldn't both want to do this fight if people didn't care because it wouldn't bring in the huge money. We on this forum might not care but obviously if its the biggest money fight in boxing, people care or it wouldn't bring in that type of money, PPV buys, etc.

Sure it won't be as highly anticipated as the first one was but it will still be a huge event.

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Yeah but my point is Ouma, Floyd doesnt need the money, he needs to shut the doubters up and build himself a legacy by proving that he can beat the best at his weight level.

Now dont get me wrong, Im a huge floyd fan and I think people are far too quick to criticize him but this is just very disapointing.


When I said "nobody" I was really referring to boxing fans. He'll gain millions from it but he hardly needs it and that is all we will gain....plus he stands to lose a lot.

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I don't like the fight at all, I'm not really defending it or defending Floyd really but I'm sure it will do a lot of buys whether or not the more "hardcore" fans like us on here really want to see it. Even though it doesn't seem like a big fight to us right now, it will end up being a very big fight/event. Whether its a big fight for Floyd's legacy is a different question.

And I'm sure a lot of people on here who are kind of disinterested will end up getting the PPV. I won't but that's mainly cause I'm in school and don't have a limitless PPV budget. That and I have discovered Sopcast ;D

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I don't like the fight at all, I'm not really defending it or defending Floyd really but I'm sure it will do a lot of buys whether or not the more "hardcore" fans like us on here really want to see it. Even though it doesn't seem like a big fight to us right now, it will end up being a very big fight/event. Whether its a big fight for Floyd's legacy is a different question.

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That depends on how the fight goes, I think. Oscar has what, 5 losses? But the only time he's been beaten up convincingly was when Hopkins knocked him out - and even that fight was close up until the knockout. If Floyd could KO or win a clear UD against Oscar it would mean a lot, IMO.

Also, agree with the poster who said that 24/7 III could be the best part of the fight.

See, my view is that i don't care if they have a rematch, i just hate the timing.. Floyd just beat hatton and I really want him to fight Cotto to shut up all the people who keep saying Cotto will beat him.. So it sucks that not only is he fighting Oscar instead, it's happening in SEPTEMBER.. at least if it was in May then Floyd may fight again before the end of the year, like last year, but obviously Floyd isn't going to fight anyone before this fight if it gets signed, meaning this will be Floyd's only fight this year.

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Originally Posted by Mar

Next he'll want to give hatton a rematch too....robbing us of both a cotto showdown for floyd and witter showdown for hatton. Say it aint so floyd, we don't want to see this again....well i don't, in case i have any influence.

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Hatton will never go back to Welterweight so i doubt that will happen.

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;) YEA i agree what you are saying... 8)

:D perhaps if he have his proud sensitive maybe he could do it by big purse or unless if want an another beating. ;D

I thought Mayweather said he was going to retire after the last fight. Maybe he was going to retire if he couldn't fight Oscar again.

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

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I love it. CC

I guess I will have to work on something here. I was already thinking about doing something and now, I have no choice. To the bat cave!

You should have called this card

Drag Queen vs Drama Queen

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

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I love it. CC

I guess I will have to work on something here. I was already thinking about doing something and now, I have no choice. To the bat cave!

You should have called this card

Drag Queen vs Drama Queen

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I'm shocked it took you this long to post on this. You're showing ring rust. ;)

The funny thing is people get so upset about Mayweather fighting Oscar again.Think about it I made all this money fighting De La Hoya and rematch comes up.Hmmm let me think.Defining fight of my career and silencing all critics or MONEY.S**T you know what I'm going for.

Cotto is just like Floyd. Waiting for the big money and at all cost avoid Paul Williams. No different.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya, who shattered box office records when they met last spring, are close to finishing a deal for a rematch, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com Wednesday.

"We are still discussing things but we have almost finalized it," said Schaefer, who heads De La Hoya's promotional company. "I think an announcement will be forthcoming."

Schaefer said the fight would be Sept. 13 or Sept. 20 on HBO pay-per-view.

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Not only are these guys fighting again, but they're going to fight so late in the year that it will be the only fight in 2008 for both of them.

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Wonder if it's gonna be at Dodger Stadium?

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

This is bad news, whether you are a Cotto fan, a Floyd fan, or just a boxing fan.

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Well SweetPea I will say this.
It's bad news in the sense that we're gonna have to wait until 2009 BUUUUUUUT I'm happy cause the more the time passes the better the chances are for Cotto to beat PBF, IMO. People here say PBF can only beat himself, I agree with that.
But IMO the biggest "IT" factor that's against PBF is "TIME" the more the months go by and the less fighting hes doing will only hurt him in the long run.
So in retrospect it really isn't all that bad for me as I was hoping they wouldn't fight 'til 2009 cause that's when Cottos chances are better. Well better then fighting him this year since hes still fresh off the Hatton win.
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You'd sooner see Cotto win against a faded fighter than watch two guys in their pomp go at it?

Bit surprising.