The two hardest hitting British Middleweights of all time never met up. Why not? And what if they had? "The Hawk" vs. "The Dark Destroyer", what a slugfest that woulda been. Woulda been over quick too I would imagine.
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The two hardest hitting British Middleweights of all time never met up. Why not? And what if they had? "The Hawk" vs. "The Dark Destroyer", what a slugfest that woulda been. Woulda been over quick too I would imagine.
Jackson wasn't British, He was from the U.S. Virgin Islands.
At the time Benn, Eubank and Watson were engaged in some pretty brilliant battles over here fOR a World title over in Britain.
Stateside Toney, Jones Jr, McClellan, Jacson and McCallum were in the mix for a world title over there.
Each fighter didn't want to leave there comfort zone in such a competitive market and surrender an advantage by travelling to a rivals home country to fight.
Although fights between Eubank and Jones. Jones and Benn. McCallum and Eubank. were all pushed for the only international bouts that really occured were Benn Vs. McClellan and Watson vs. Mike McCallum.
Collins came on the scene later and he too boxed McCallum and was pushing for a fight with Jones before a brain scan ended his career.
Jackson was not allowed to fight in Britain because of his bad eyes and I am sure that Benn went to Super middle which was a weight too far although he would have carried his punch. It would have been a cracker. I would go for Jackson at middle and Benn at super middle, where he was the finished article.
Impossible fight to pick a winner for me. Def a KO one way or the other - would love to have seen it!!
For a guy with over 6000 posts , you thought Julian Jackson was British ??????Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
obviously u have never heard him speak as he has a typically west Indian Afro - Caribbean accent.
But at middle Jackson KO'S Benn in 1. but hell it could have gone either way , Benn had great power but Jackson remains the hardest 1 shot hitter in history for me.
The list of guys you've put up does make for sad reading, considering the number of mouthwatering cross atlantic fights that could've been made. Still, all the guys mentioned did fight at least one of the others on the list. Benn v Jackson may well have been the pick of them entertainment wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Hahaha. My bad. ;D Well don't I look like an ass? Oh well its nothin new for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I forgot he is from the Virgin Islands I remember seein that tidbit when he fought Verno Phillips on an ESPN classic re-run a couple months back.
You really think he was the hardes 1 punch KO hartist in history though? Why?
Power is a strange thing , its not about how a guy is built , but for me Jackson just had an amazing effect on guys he hit , lots of fighters have high ko persentages , but jackson scored lots of clean kos were the guys didnt get up from the shot.
G-MAN Had great power but for me Julian Jackson had the biggest shot of all.
Because Jackson didn't even use to try and he still KO you like you was nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I think Jackson could of been the man to floor Marvin Hagler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I think he would have been tailor made for Hagler. Hagler dealt with Hearns and Mugabi even late in his career. He would have rushed Jackson and took advantage of Jackson's questionable chin. Hagler was a smart guy, he knew how to approach different styles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Im not saying Hagler wouldn't win but i still think Jackson could be the man to floor Hagler if he caught Hagler flush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
I think Benn would KO Jackson both great punchers but Benn's chin were'nt all that bad look how he did with the G man
how come Roy jones. jr . would not fight them?
Benn didnt wanna fight RJJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost197532
Me being a Benn Fan would say he was timid and unsure and might have lost.....?Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost197532
Me being a realist would say that judging from tonights Payday,He did not have too...... ;)
Also I think Benn would have folded Jackson up for Ko win
Bull crap bro, nigel tried to get a fight , roy did not want to do it till benn was out of his prime!!!!!
Ok twinkie,your missing the bigger picture.I know the politics of the era and Jones literally waited Benn out.At the time I was harping the point's.Think Jones "lost the plane ticket".Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost197532
Read the post before you jump off in reaction Brah.
I've drawn similarities before between Leonard Pryor and Mayweather Cotto. I feel RJJ Jackson can be classified in the same file.
Early in a career or at a time where a great (stylish) fighter is proving themselves they may come across a rugged tough fighter who they are contrasted with and a fight is proposed. Now the stylish fighter may turn down the fight as although they are confident they realise that the rugged guy could do damage to their careers. (as Jackson did, It's no coincidence the Benn-McClellan tragedy happened after Jackson)
The rugged fighter may then be avoided until such time as the stylish figher fels they have gained enough expierience to take the fight and keep safe or when the rugged guy fades (which happens before the stylish guy usually)
I think Jackson would of KO Benn inside of 3 rounds after Jackson gets dropped and is on the verge of being KO. Benn gets over confident and walks into a devastating right hand and its all over Benn is out cold.
At middleweight it could have worked out that way but at Supermiddle the fighter that beat McClellan would have found a way to beat Jackson.
I think the same but opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
Benn would of KO Jackson inside of 3 rounds after Benn gets dropped and is on the verge of being KO. Jackson gets over confident and walks into a devastating right hand and its all over Jackson is out cold.
I got Jackson putting Benn to sleep the way he did Graham. Benn would rush in with his wide ass punches and BAM. Out he goes
It could happen either way both men have 1 punch KO power and they both have suspect chins so its 50-50 fight. I can't see it going more than 3 rounds though seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
On a form line with McClellan Benn would KO Jackson. Defintely.
That is indisputable.
Didn't Benn get hypnotized before the fight ?? whatever it was Benn showed x2 better chin that he had in his entire career he was not human that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
True.
Not the hypnotism thing though.
Hypnotism is bollocks.. In my own personal experiences.
Can you answer me this as well because i was very young at that time i can't remember clearly. But i seem to remember Gerald McClellan saying he would put Benn in a body bag ?? i think it was in the paper or something i remember my family talking about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yeah Gman made comments like that.. it's widely known Mclellan was brought over to KO Benn.
If it wasn't for a ref who kept pushing McClellan away every 5 seconds he would of KO'ed BennQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
If your auntie had balls she'd be your uncle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Is that why you call you Aunt Jeanie, Jim?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
As much as I'd love to argue with VD (after his taunting after December 8th) Benn was helped out early by th ref.
Benn won deal with it. :) and that Benn would beat Jackson, but as good as he became he would not have beaten RJJ.
Yeah, well thats obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The question was never "Could Benn have beaten RJJ?"
I think a question that should be raised though is "Could McClellan have beaten RJJ? again?"
Agreed on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Plus Benn was not hypnotized during the fight, he just used hypnosis as a part of his regime.
I have a question for VD
Has there ever been a really good British fighter?
Yea i heard hypnosis helps you to relax etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Not even VD could argue about Jimmy Wilde.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I'm sure he'll do his best ;D
ICE - your a 'stats' kind of guy can you tell us the ratio of British world champions in comparsion to population and compare that with the US ;)