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I don't see Gomez giving Cotto much of a challenge. I think it's going to be a painful night for Gomez
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At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
If Miguel Cotto had the chance to fight either Floyd Mayweather or Oscar Delahoya, who would he choose?
Obviously, he would go for Delahoya because of the money involved, but people criticize Mayweather for taking the fight that Cotto dreams about every day.
Meanwhile..................
Cotto is fighting ALFONSO GOMEZ, and please don't try to defend Gomez by making outrageous claims like "He's a real good fighter," or "He's a real tough kid that's gonna give Cotto a tough fight."
This is just as bad as when Antonio Margarito fought Golden Johnson, and if I recall, there were people out there making the same ridiculous claims for that fight as well.
Please clarify on what you base your assertion that Cotto would fight de la Hoya instead of Mayweather.
To me, fighting either one would make Cotto the most money he has ever made, so why choose one over the other? To me de la Hoya has a better shot at KO'ing Cotto than Floyd does. So for me, not only is Mayweather just as good a choice financially than Oscar, but also a safer one. Cotto might lose to Floyd, but he won't get Ko'd or "destroyed." Oscar might KO Cotto like the others before him couldn't.
Also, what are Cotto's options at this moment with everyone he should fight either avoiding him or being tied up?
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I think he would choose Floyd.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
If Miguel Cotto had the chance to fight either Floyd Mayweather or Oscar Delahoya, who would he choose?
Obviously, he would go for Delahoya because of the money involved, but people criticize Mayweather for taking the fight that Cotto dreams about every day.
Meanwhile..................
Cotto is fighting ALFONSO GOMEZ, and please don't try to defend Gomez by making outrageous claims like "He's a real good fighter," or "He's a real tough kid that's gonna give Cotto a tough fight."
This is just as bad as when Antonio Margarito fought Golden Johnson, and if I recall, there were people out there making the same ridiculous claims for that fight as well.
I have said this before and will again...contrary to poular belief Gomez is not the worst choice of opponent...Sure there are bigger fights out there we all know that....But they are not materializing right now are they?....Not saying it is the fault of Cotto's team or the fault of the other fighters it just is not happening...everyone is on a full scheduale right now
DLH- Only fights part time...He is really a 154lbr now we all know that...I hate to burst anyones bubble but why is everyone acting like DLH has a need to fight Cotto?...In truth it is an all gain for Miguel not Oscar....DLH needs to answer no ones challenges...and in truth he has earned that right with the resume he has...sorry if no one agree but it is the truth....Oscar if anyone in this whole sport has proven time and again he is afraid of no one! and has Nothing to prove!!!...And I can't stand De La Hoya
PBF- he had a big 2007...has he taken some bouts in the past that were easier then others available in the division he was in?...Yes that is not a question...again agree or disagree it is true...PBF stated several times before Hatton and after he is taking time off...So what are we going to cry about it? Make claims it is all because he is ducking Cotto?....Even if it is true you know what?...suck it up and move on..there are plenty of other fights out there.....
I like Cotto...I am a fan but people blow this shit out of context....I am going to say something with risk of a bunch of guys getting into a big Huff....But
Cotto is just getting started in the 147lb division...Yes he beat Mosley, Judah, Great wins against top caliber fighters...He should be applauded for the wins...his other wins were over Quintana, and Urkal...well they were good wins against good fighters yes but lets be honest here...If PBF, Margarito, opr anyone else beat those names there would be a whole mess of post saying "They were not that good...B level if anything..."...He needs to beat better fighters and everyone here knows it is true.....
DLH and PBF are pretty much on the way out...Not skill wise but career wise..they are persuing other ventures...They have earned that right...DLH has the best resume in the last 50yrs if not all time....PBF has been the P4P#1 fighter for how long now?.......How do either of them need to fight Cotto or need to prove anything by fighting him?...Cottos team is the one that should be chasing them with a deal they can not refuse...they don't need to accomidate Cotto or anyone else...and they are not ducking him......
I am not putting Cotto down I like the guy and think he is a great fighter but facts are facts...business is business especially at the level these guys are at....
As for Gomez...hell at least Cotto is staying busy with an active guy who has stepped up his game....when a bigger name is available Cotto will sign to fight them I am sure but why should he wait around until a name is open?...Stay sharp, defend your title against all comers...in 2007 he beat Judah, Mosley and Urkal...WTF did Cintron and Williams do?...other then Kermit looking like shit in his last bout and Paul taking the year off to pat himself on the back and tell anyone in the media willing to listen how great he is
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Have Cotto fight Williams and you will see how great he is. Cotto will be saying damn Tall Paul is a great fighter. 07 was last year. 08 is Tall Pauls year if anyone will step up and fight him. It only makes sense that the best fight each other. Floyd is running so the next is Cotto and Williams. Lets get it on. #1Cotto vs #2 Williams. Makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
Now that is just a false statement. Oscar could fight absolutely anyone and produce more PPV buys than a Cotto PBF card would, unless he was on the undercard. If your talking big and lucrative in terms of from a real boxing fan's POV, then yes of course it would be.. But don't pretend that the fight would sell more tickets and PPV's than an Oscar fight, because it's not even close. DLH could fight me and more people would tune in than to see Floyd fight Cotto. Sucks, but it's definetly the way it is.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
If Miguel Cotto had the chance to fight either Floyd Mayweather or Oscar Delahoya, who would he choose?
Obviously, he would go for Delahoya because of the money involved, but people criticize Mayweather for taking the fight that Cotto dreams about every day.
Meanwhile..................
Cotto is fighting ALFONSO GOMEZ, and please don't try to defend Gomez by making outrageous claims like "He's a real good fighter," or "He's a real tough kid that's gonna give Cotto a tough fight."
This is just as bad as when Antonio Margarito fought Golden Johnson, and if I recall, there were people out there making the same ridiculous claims for that fight as well.
Please clarify on what you base your assertion that Cotto would fight de la Hoya instead of Mayweather.
To me, fighting either one would make Cotto the most money he has ever made, so why choose one over the other? To me de la Hoya has a better shot at KO'ing Cotto than Floyd does. So for me, not only is Mayweather just as good a choice financially than Oscar, but also a safer one. Cotto might lose to Floyd, but he won't get Ko'd or "destroyed." Oscar might KO Cotto like the others before him couldn't.
Also, what are Cotto's options at this moment with everyone he should fight either avoiding him or being tied up?
True that fighting either one would make Cotto much more money than he ever has, but there's a huge difference between the 3-5 million that Cotto would probably make fighting Mayweather and the 8-10 million that he would probably get for fighting Oscar.
Boxing is business and there's no doubt that Cotto would go for the biggest purse out there especially when that purse is twice as much as the next biggest one out there.
This was a thread intended to shed some light on the whole "Mayweather is ducking Cotto," theory. I think it's pretty obvious that he's not when you take into consideration that Cotto would take the same fight over any other one out there, if given the chance.
As for your Cotto's options remark, just about ANYBODY (although almost all of the big names are all tied up at the moment) would be better. What would you say if Floyd was in the same situation as Cotto is in now and fought Gomez?
Cotto can't make a decent fight at 154?
Forrest would fight him, and might even try to come down to 147 to do it.
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
I disagree, in the boxing public it would be bigger, but Oscar hit a bag for twelve rounds and make more money than these two combined. He is by far the biggest draw in boxing, and a fight between him and Cotto would make at least 3 times as much as a fight with Mayweather vs Cotto. Cotto isn't as popular as Hatton, he needs a Dela Hoya or Mayweather fight to truly put him on the world map. However I think him fighting Oscar or Mayweather is dangerous because of them would beat him IMO. Oscar is bigger, better chin, faster, great left hook and jab. MAyweather is just too quick, too good defensively for Cotto, and down the stretch I could even see MAyweather really hurting Cotto.
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
Now that is just a false statement. Oscar could fight absolutely anyone and produce more PPV buys than a Cotto PBF card would, unless he was on the undercard. If your talking big and lucrative in terms of from a real boxing fan's POV, then yes of course it would be.. But don't pretend that the fight would sell more tickets and PPV's than an Oscar fight, because it's not even close. DLH could fight me and more people would tune in than to see Floyd fight Cotto. Sucks, but it's definetly the way it is.
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
I disagree, in the boxing public it would be bigger, but Oscar hit a bag for twelve rounds and make more money than these two combined. He is by far the biggest draw in boxing, and a fight between him and Cotto would make at least 3 times as much as a fight with Mayweather vs Cotto. Cotto isn't as popular as Hatton, he needs a Dela Hoya or Mayweather fight to truly put him on the world map. However I think him fighting Oscar or Mayweather is dangerous because of them would beat him IMO. Oscar is bigger, better chin, faster, great left hook and jab. MAyweather is just too quick, too good defensively for Cotto, and down the stretch I could even see MAyweather really hurting Cotto.
I will stick to my statement. seriously
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
Now that is just a false statement. Oscar could fight absolutely anyone and produce more PPV buys than a Cotto PBF card would, unless he was on the undercard. If your talking big and lucrative in terms of from a real boxing fan's POV, then yes of course it would be.. But don't pretend that the fight would sell more tickets and PPV's than an Oscar fight, because it's not even close. DLH could fight me and more people would tune in than to see Floyd fight Cotto. Sucks, but it's definetly the way it is.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
I disagree, in the boxing public it would be bigger, but Oscar hit a bag for twelve rounds and make more money than these two combined. He is by far the biggest draw in boxing, and a fight between him and Cotto would make at least 3 times as much as a fight with Mayweather vs Cotto. Cotto isn't as popular as Hatton, he needs a Dela Hoya or Mayweather fight to truly put him on the world map. However I think him fighting Oscar or Mayweather is dangerous because of them would beat him IMO. Oscar is bigger, better chin, faster, great left hook and jab. MAyweather is just too quick, too good defensively for Cotto, and down the stretch I could even see MAyweather really hurting Cotto.
I will stick to my statement. seriously
But, you do know your wrong.... ?? I mean you don't seriously think PBF Cotto would sell more PPV's than Oscar vs either of them?? You can't actually believe that. If the fight was only available in Puerto Rico it would probably still be close ::**
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If Cotto were to fight an 11 year old Boy Scout his fanboys would extol his great athletism and strength and herald the fact the he's "feared" in his troop,because he once hit a fellow scout with a straight right that caused some small bruising on his shoulder.
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If Cotto were to fight an 11 year old Boy Scout his fanboys would extol his great athletism and strength and herald the fact the he's "feared" in his troop,because he once hit a fellow scout with a straight right that caused some small bruising on his shoulder.
what a dick...
:D
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
Now that is just a false statement. Oscar could fight absolutely anyone and produce more PPV buys than a Cotto PBF card would, unless he was on the undercard. If your talking big and lucrative in terms of from a real boxing fan's POV, then yes of course it would be.. But don't pretend that the fight would sell more tickets and PPV's than an Oscar fight, because it's not even close. DLH could fight me and more people would tune in than to see Floyd fight Cotto. Sucks, but it's definetly the way it is.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
I disagree, in the boxing public it would be bigger, but Oscar hit a bag for twelve rounds and make more money than these two combined. He is by far the biggest draw in boxing, and a fight between him and Cotto would make at least 3 times as much as a fight with Mayweather vs Cotto. Cotto isn't as popular as Hatton, he needs a Dela Hoya or Mayweather fight to truly put him on the world map. However I think him fighting Oscar or Mayweather is dangerous because of them would beat him IMO. Oscar is bigger, better chin, faster, great left hook and jab. MAyweather is just too quick, too good defensively for Cotto, and down the stretch I could even see MAyweather really hurting Cotto.
I will stick to my statement. seriously
Maybe it's bigger and more lucrative in Puerto Rico, but it's nowhere near half as big in the rest of the world.
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...go after floyd and take your chances at getting lucky.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
I disagree, in the boxing public it would be bigger, but Oscar hit a bag for twelve rounds and make more money than these two combined. He is by far the biggest draw in boxing, and a fight between him and Cotto would make at least 3 times as much as a fight with Mayweather vs Cotto. Cotto isn't as popular as Hatton, he needs a Dela Hoya or Mayweather fight to truly put him on the world map. However I think him fighting Oscar or Mayweather is dangerous because of them would beat him IMO. Oscar is bigger, better chin, faster, great left hook and jab. MAyweather is just too quick, too good defensively for Cotto, and down the stretch I could even see MAyweather really hurting Cotto.
If his left hook is so "great"why couldnt he land it on PBFand do damage to a blown up featherweight?
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Originally Posted by winscomeez
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Puya
At this point a fight between Floyd and Cotto is Bigger and lucrative than any fight Oscar could be involved unless he fights Tito at 160 or something
I disagree, in the boxing public it would be bigger, but Oscar hit a bag for twelve rounds and make more money than these two combined. He is by far the biggest draw in boxing, and a fight between him and Cotto would make at least 3 times as much as a fight with Mayweather vs Cotto. Cotto isn't as popular as Hatton, he needs a Dela Hoya or Mayweather fight to truly put him on the world map. However I think him fighting Oscar or Mayweather is dangerous because of them would beat him IMO. Oscar is bigger, better chin, faster, great left hook and jab. MAyweather is just too quick, too good defensively for Cotto, and down the stretch I could even see MAyweather really hurting Cotto.
If his left hook is so "great"why couldnt he land it on PBFand do damage to a blown up featherweight?
Why couldn't someone hold Jordan to 4 points ::**
