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I was More Impressed With Golata
Against a younger faster opponent,who was cheating like mad,he delivered a cool and calculated beat down.
And even though the younger guy was getting away with some outrageous crap out there(the repeated shoulder spears to Golata's midsection come to mind) Andrew did the one thing nobody was sure he could do.He kept his cool,and kept working without doing anything stupid out there
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cc man. Golata really surprised me. I though he was going to fall apart especially with his eye swollen shut, but he never did. I was pulling for him more in this fight than I ever did in the past cause he showed more heart and will to win than ive seen him do in a long time. Good win for him especially at 39 years old.
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The old Golata,especially with that eye welding shut,would have panicked looking for the win,not this version.
He kept to his game plan,and just kept on delivering some severe punishment,he definitly had a feeling of "I wont be denied"
In alot of ways that adversity he had to deal with in this fight makes it way more impressive then his dismantling of Jeremy Bates,a better prospect for starters,and just what he had to overcome to get it.
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Golota did well...for Golota...Like it was already said at least he did not fall apart...If he was in with any other guy who had a little something more to him Andrew would of had Major problems....
He is very slow...and sloppy...but it was a good win for him....
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I for one could not believe how much holding that Mike Mollo guy was getting away with. It was fucking ridiculous. He kept trying to tackle Golota for like 5 straight rounds, thats the only reason he survived, aside from being such a tuff bastard.
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I for one could not believe how much holding that Mike Mollo guy was getting away with. It was F****** ridiculous. He kept trying to tackle Golota for like 5 straight rounds, thats the only reason he survived, aside from being such a tuff B******.
More or less how me and Feur saw it as well,but thats what made is win so convincing,he never let it phase him,nor the fact that the ref wasnt doing a damned thing about it,he just dealt with it
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I for one could not believe how much holding that Mike Mollo guy was getting away with. It was F****** ridiculous. He kept trying to tackle Golota for like 5 straight rounds, thats the only reason he survived, aside from being such a tuff B******.
More or less how me and Feur saw it as well,but thats what made is win so convincing,he never let it phase him,nor the fact that the ref wasnt doing a damned thing about it,he just dealt with it
Yeah he did well. A bit slow but accurate with his punches and patient. I was impressed that he kept his cool even though his left eye was closed. I was waiting for him to say that famous line that one forum mod uses as his name here. The holding and pushing and "spearing" as you called it by mollo was so bloody frustrating to watch and he was even grabbing hold of galota down behind his knee like he was about to throw him like a wrestler, weird.
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Yeah Mollo woulda been out of there early'ish if he hadn't been allowed to get away with half the shit he was getting away with. My friend hadn't seen much of Golota and when Mollo was hitting him with low blows, holding etc I kept saying to my friend 'watch this!! He's gonna flip any minute!!!'.
I said that all the way through the first until the last minute of the 12th...he never did flip :( ;D
Impressed with his discipline..I bet he's kicking himself for not having it against Riddick
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Against a younger faster opponent,who was cheating like mad,he delivered a cool and calculated beat down.
And even though the younger guy was getting away with some outrageous crap out there(the repeated shoulder spears to Golata's midsection come to mind) Andrew did the one thing nobody was sure he could do.He kept his cool,and kept working without doing anything stupid out there
You have to be kidding me ?? i'll admit Golota did handle the pressure well but Mollo is a journeyman fighter. And after the middle rounds Mollo was basically holding on for dear life and it was unimpressive how Golota couldn't finish him off. Golota looked slow and his punches were very sloppy and he was even stunned numerous times by a sloppy journeyman fighter like Mollo.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Against a younger faster opponent,who was cheating like mad,he delivered a cool and calculated beat down.
And even though the younger guy was getting away with some outrageous crap out there(the repeated shoulder spears to Golata's midsection come to mind) Andrew did the one thing nobody was sure he could do.He kept his cool,and kept working without doing anything stupid out there
You have to be kidding me ?? i'll admit Golota did handle the pressure well but Mollo is a journeyman fighter. And after the middle rounds Mollo was basically holding on for dear life and it was unimpressive how Golota couldn't finish him off. Golota looked slow and his punches were very sloppy and he was even stunned numerous times by a sloppy journeyman fighter like Mollo.
A 19-1 journeyman that King had serious money invested in on a King card
You dont understand the buisness one iota do you
Golata was supposed to lose
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Against a younger faster opponent,who was cheating like mad,he delivered a cool and calculated beat down.
And even though the younger guy was getting away with some outrageous crap out there(the repeated shoulder spears to Golata's midsection come to mind) Andrew did the one thing nobody was sure he could do.He kept his cool,and kept working without doing anything stupid out there
You have to be kidding me ?? i'll admit Golota did handle the pressure well but Mollo is a journeyman fighter. And after the middle rounds Mollo was basically holding on for dear life and it was unimpressive how Golota couldn't finish him off. Golota looked slow and his punches were very sloppy and he was even stunned numerous times by a sloppy journeyman fighter like Mollo.
A 19-1 journeyman that King had serious money invested in on a King card
You dont understand the buisness one iota do you
Golata was supposed to lose
Well no one on this forum or anyone where i lived didn't think Mollo had a chance in hell.
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Then they didnt see the way none of those shoulder charges in to Golata's gut didnt get called once,and the amount of money King had invested in to Mollo
Even Emanuel Stewart was hinting it might get vicked from him when it went to the cards
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Then they didnt see the way none of those shoulder charges in to Golata's gut didnt get called once,and the amount of money King had invested in to Mollo
Even Emanuel Stewart was hinting it might get vicked from him when it went to the cards
The fact is Mollo is not a good fighter and he is limited journeyman fighter and that showed in his fight with Golota. Mollo exhausted after about the 6th round and all he did was clinch all night after that and landed few punches here and there, while Golota was throwing slow sloppy punches and couldn't stop a journeyman fighter who was basically holding on to Golota at times to stop himself from falling flat on his face. The fight was exciting in the early going and it had its moments, but after about 6th round it turned into a wrestling match, Golota did deal with some pressure early very well, and Mollo showed good chin and big heart other than that it was a bad performance from both fighters.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Against a younger faster opponent,who was cheating like mad,he delivered a cool and calculated beat down.
And even though the younger guy was getting away with some outrageous crap out there(the repeated shoulder spears to Golata's midsection come to mind) Andrew did the one thing nobody was sure he could do.He kept his cool,and kept working without doing anything stupid out there
You have to be kidding me ?? i'll admit Golota did handle the pressure well but Mollo is a journeyman fighter. And after the middle rounds Mollo was basically holding on for dear life and it was unimpressive how Golota couldn't finish him off. Golota looked slow and his punches were very sloppy and he was even stunned numerous times by a sloppy journeyman fighter like Mollo.
A 19-1 journeyman that King had serious money invested in on a King card
You dont understand the buisness one iota do you
Golata was supposed to lose
Trainer Monkey, I think it's you who doesn't understand the business side.
If Golota was 'supposed' to lose on a King card, against a King fighter who King has invested a lot of money in, he would have lost. Mollo was busy enough in the early rounds that a dodgy decision was not out of the question. King gets what King wants.
Golota is a thousand times more bankable than Mollo. He's white, Polish and FUCKING CRAZY - what's not to love?
Bottom line, and why I agree with Ice Cold - Golota looked terribly slow and sloppy against a vastly inferior and undersized opponent with a dreadful stamina problem. Golota should have KO'd that guy inside of four rounds - just like DaVaryll Williamson did.
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Against a younger faster opponent,who was cheating like mad,he delivered a cool and calculated beat down.
And even though the younger guy was getting away with some outrageous crap out there(the repeated shoulder spears to Golata's midsection come to mind) Andrew did the one thing nobody was sure he could do.He kept his cool,and kept working without doing anything stupid out there
You have to be kidding me ?? i'll admit Golota did handle the pressure well but Mollo is a journeyman fighter. And after the middle rounds Mollo was basically holding on for dear life and it was unimpressive how Golota couldn't finish him off. Golota looked slow and his punches were very sloppy and he was even stunned numerous times by a sloppy journeyman fighter like Mollo.
A 19-1 journeyman that King had serious money invested in on a King card
You dont understand the buisness one iota do you
Golata was supposed to lose
Trainer Monkey, I think it's you who doesn't understand the business side.
If Golota was 'supposed' to lose on a King card, against a King fighter who King has invested a lot of money in, he
would have lost. Mollo was busy enough in the early rounds that a dodgy decision was not out of the question. King gets what King wants.
Golota is a thousand times more bankable than Mollo. He's white, Polish and F****** CRAZY - what's not to love?
Bottom line, and why I agree with Ice Cold - Golota looked terribly slow and sloppy against a vastly inferior and undersized opponent with a dreadful stamina problem. Golota should have KO'd that guy inside of four rounds - just like DaVaryll Williamson did.
You mean the way that Bob Arum's announcers kept saying that it would be a travesty if he lost?
The same Bob Arum who hates King?
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It would have been a travesty if he lost - he won the fight.
What's your point?
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I thought golota was slow but not necessarily sloppy. His punches were fairly accurate and straight, just a bit slow. I agree with your comment though, if King had it that Mollo was to win he would have. If both guys just suddenly "Disappear" then perhaps that was what was meant to happen. ;D
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He looked good stanmina wise but his power isnt was it was, he could use some strength training. That eye looked like he caught a thumb in the eye or something, I've never seen Golota swell up like that.
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and the moment golata steps up again he is getting KO'd.
But he'll be first in line for Vitali's comeback Im sure ;)
It was an ugly fight and it was good to see Golata wasnt the one making it that way or at least keeping it clean on his end
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He looked good stanmina wise but his power isnt was it was, he could use some strength training. That eye looked like he caught a thumb in the eye or something, I've never seen Golota swell up like that.
Was just a right hand straight on the eye - it swelled up fast and was basically closed by the time he got back to the corner for the break.
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I thought golota was slow but not necessarily sloppy. His punches were fairly accurate and straight, just a bit slow. I agree with your comment though, if King had it that Mollo was to win he would have. If both guys just suddenly "Disappear" then perhaps that was what was meant to happen. ;D
Your living about 10 years ago
King doesnt have that kind of swing anymore,he's only got one titelest anymore,and he's about to lose him
And on top of that,even when the promoter wants a guy to win,they dont do that movie crap of,"Yer takin a dive in the 5th Johnnie,see?"
King has his teeth in to both fighters,but look at it logicaly,who does King stand to make more from,a 40 year old contender,or a 27 year old one?
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
The evil one,as we tend to call him around here,long term, had more to make from Mollo.He's only going to get so many fights out of Golata,he could get a good 13 years out of Mollo
Don's really backed himself in to a corner,he NEEDS another great heavyweight,even if Golata wins one of the belts,how many defenses does he really have in him?
This was supposed to be Mollo's coming out party,nobody bothered to inform Golata of that though
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
The evil one,as we tend to call him around here,long term, had more to make from Mollo.He's only going to get so many fights out of Golata,he could get a good 13 years out of Mollo
Don's really backed himself in to a corner,he NEEDS another great heavyweight,even if Golata wins one of the belts,how many defenses does he really have in him?
This was supposed to be Mollo's coming out party,nobody bothered to inform Golata of that though
Maybe as we say around here he was "having 2 bob each way". That is if mollo ousts golota then he has a potential pospect. If golota wins then he gets to use his name for at least 1 more fight and it will help his undercard for his next promotion.
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
The evil one,as we tend to call him around here,long term, had more to make from Mollo.
He's only going to get so many fights out of Golata,he could get a good 13 years out of Mollo
Don's really backed himself in to a corner,he NEEDS another great heavyweight,even if Golata wins one of the belts,how many defenses does he really have in him?
This was supposed to be Mollo's coming out party,nobody bothered to inform Golata of that though
Trainer Monkey, you and I both know that King isn't going to get shit out of Mollo unless he starts doing his roadwork based on Saturday night... ;D
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
The evil one,as we tend to call him around here,long term, had more to make from Mollo.He's only going to get so many fights out of Golata,he could get a good 13 years out of Mollo
Don's really backed himself in to a corner,he NEEDS another great heavyweight,even if Golata wins one of the belts,how many defenses does he really have in him?
This was supposed to be Mollo's coming out party,nobody bothered to inform Golata of that though
Maybe as we say around here he was "having 2 bob each way". That is if mollo ousts golota then he has a potential pospect. If golota wins then he gets to use his name for at least 1 more fight and it will help his undercard for his next promotion.
That's the best take on things yet. I definitely don't think Mollo was supposed to win this one. As I said before, King would have ensured a victory if that was the case.
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
The evil one,as we tend to call him around here,long term, had more to make from Mollo.
He's only going to get so many fights out of Golata,he could get a good 13 years out of Mollo
Don's really backed himself in to a corner,he NEEDS another great heavyweight,even if Golata wins one of the belts,how many defenses does he really have in him?
This was supposed to be Mollo's coming out party,nobody bothered to inform Golata of that though
Trainer Monkey, you and I both know that King isn't going to get S*** out of Mollo unless he starts doing his roadwork based on Saturday night... ;D
Promoters,especially really desperate ones,are notorious for seeing what isnt there
King needs a Heavy right now,he's too heavily invested in to the division,Mollo early showed what King saw in him,fast hands,they just dont have any gas on them
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Maybe all he saw is that his name is "Mike"?
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Well I was just kidding but you are right about me being caught up ten years ago in my thinking but that's more in music. I still think King gets more $$$$$ from the polish maniac than Mollo b/ because even the guys here don't know much of him and i King wants to stack a card the name golotta does that nicely as the casual boxing fan still remembers who he is. But a CC for you first post because I agreed with it.
The evil one,as we tend to call him around here,long term, had more to make from Mollo.He's only going to get so many fights out of Golata,he could get a good 13 years out of Mollo
Don's really backed himself in to a corner,he NEEDS another great heavyweight,even if Golata wins one of the belts,how many defenses does he really have in him?
This was supposed to be Mollo's coming out party,nobody bothered to inform Golata of that though
Maybe as we say around here he was "having 2 bob each way". That is if mollo ousts golota then he has a potential pospect. If golota wins then he gets to use his name for at least 1 more fight and it will help his undercard for his next promotion.
That's the best take on things yet. I definitely don't think Mollo was supposed to win this one. As I said before, King would have ensured a victory if that was the case.
Thanks Greig. It seemed that Mollo was never going to win this fight but King gave him his "Chance". Bet it didn't cost him much either.
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Maybe all he saw is that his name is "Mike"?
What he saw was fast hands and a good chin,and as I said before,Don's getting kinda desperate so he's swinging at shadows praying he gets his next big thing
Don's usually a "keep throwing it at the wall something will stick" sort of promoter on his best days anyway
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I thought golota was slow but not necessarily sloppy. His punches were fairly accurate and straight, just a bit slow. I agree with your comment though, if King had it that Mollo was to win he would have. If both guys just suddenly "Disappear" then perhaps that was what was meant to happen. ;D
Your living about 10 years ago
King doesnt have that kind of swing anymore,he's only got one titelest anymore,and he's about to lose him
And on top of that,even when the promoter wants a guy to win,they dont do that movie crap of
,"Yer takin a dive in the 5th Johnnie,see?"
King has his teeth in to both fighters,but look at it logicaly,who does King stand to make more from,a 40 year old contender,or a 27 year old one?
;D
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Maybe all he saw is that his name is "Mike"?
What he saw was fast hands and a good chin,and as I said before,Don's getting kinda desperate so he's swinging at shadows praying he gets his next big thing
Don's usually a "keep throwing it at the wall something will stick" sort of promoter on his best days anyway
I agree with everything but the fast hands. Good point.
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Maybe all he saw is that his name is "Mike"?
What he saw was fast hands and a good chin,and as I said before,Don's getting kinda desperate so he's swinging at shadows praying he gets his next big thing
Don's usually a "keep throwing it at the wall something will stick" sort of promoter on his best days anyway
I agree with everything but the fast hands. Good point.
Go back and watch the fight,or any of Mollo's fights.He comes out flying until Golata hurt him,for the rest of the fight he's in survival mode.Mind he doesnt drive anything worth a crap
Who knows,with the right trainer he could still be something
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was good to see Golota, not seen a decent heavyweight fight for a while.Hopin he becomes world champ, might be sumone i heard of ;D
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and the moment golata steps up again he is getting KO'd.
But he'll be first in line for Vitali's comeback Im sure ;)
It was an ugly fight and it was good to see Golata wasnt the one making it that way or at least keeping it clean on his end
Agreed . Ive never cheered for Golota until Saturday night . I thought he was a dirty fighter but that Mollo was getting away with murder yet Golota did not bend the rules at all . Maybe he is mellowing . I dont fancy his chances in world class but id like to see him again with a contender .
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and the moment golata steps up again he is getting KO'd.
But he'll be first in line for Vitali's comeback Im sure ;)
It was an ugly fight and it was good to see Golata wasnt the one making it that way or at least keeping it clean on his end
Agreed . Ive never cheered for Golota until Saturday night . I thought he was a dirty fighter but that Mollo was getting away with murder yet Golota did not bend the rules at all . Maybe he is mellowing . I dont fancy his chances in world class but id like to see him again with a contender .
I never cheered for him before either,but that was a combination of discipline and heart,he gained at least one fan
Considering its a slow and sloppy division right now,why not Golata?
Ive allways thought of the guy as an idiot,but Mollo was dirty as hell,the ref was letting him get away with it,Golata had an welded shut,but he never got off his game plan
I was never a big fan of Hopkins until the Echols fight either,but just like with B-hop,Ill be rooting for Golata from here on out
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and the moment golata steps up again he is getting KO'd.
But he'll be first in line for Vitali's comeback Im sure ;)
It was an ugly fight and it was good to see Golata wasnt the one making it that way or at least keeping it clean on his end
Agreed . Ive never cheered for Golota until Saturday night . I thought he was a dirty fighter but that Mollo was getting away with murder yet Golota did not bend the rules at all . Maybe he is mellowing . I dont fancy his chances in world class but id like to see him again with a contender .
I never cheered for him before either,but that was a combination of discipline and heart,he gained at least one fan
Considering its a slow and sloppy division right now,why not Golata?
Ive allways thought of the guy as an idiot,but Mollo was dirty as hell,the ref was letting him get away with it,Golata had an welded shut,but he never got off his game plan
I was never a big fan of Hopkins until the Echols fight either,but just like with B-hop,Ill be rooting for Golata from here on out
Yeah Hopkin is another one I grew to like over time like Golta . Floyd is another who earnt my respect .
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Don't get too fond of Golota cus another embarassing one round KO loss is always just around the corner. ;D
