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Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Could a prime Iron Mike Tyson have beat a Prime Monster in Lewis it truly would have been a battle of brawler vs boxer. Who do you think would have won?
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Well in his prime Tyson struggled with tall fighters like Green, Smith, and Tucker and Douglas... and about a year ago I would of said Tyson wins because I am a huge Tyson fan but after looking back over Lewis's career I can only see one winner and its Lewis. Ive learnt to admit it. LOL
People hate Lewis, so there will be more people saying Tyson would of KOED him, but if you look at the facts, Tyson in his prime never even came close to knocking down Green, smith, and Tucker, and Lewis in his prime was 10 times better than all of them and had the 1 punch KO power like Tyson.
Ive stuck up for Tyson since I was about 8 yrs old, he is what got me into boxing but I think Lewis knew he had Tyson's number all along, abit like Holyfield did !!
The size difference too is a major factor, Tyson had fought big tall men before but Lewis just wasn't tall in his prime, he was a 18 stone monster who could move round the ring just as good as any boxer I have seen, check the footwork out on the Tua, Tyson, Holyfield, and Rahman 2 fight, they don't get near him and all look frustrated at the end of the rounds with their corner man saying get inside, and Tyson and Tua I both heard say, I cant !!
Lewis too big too strong and too good !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Tyson in 4. Lewis didnt have a chin at all. Tyson had fought big fighters in his prime be4. Tony Tucker and bonecrusher smith were both 6-5 and he walked through both of them.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
When did Tyson walk through Tucker and Smith ???
Tyson against Smith was a dull fight and neither one did anything great in it !!
Tucker could of went for it abit more I think but never had the balls to back Tyson up, but Tyson never even came close to knocking him down never mind knocking him out.
Have you actually watched these fights ???
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
Tyson in 4. Lewis didnt have a chin at all. Tyson had fought big fighters in his prime be4. Tony Tucker and bonecrusher smith were both 6-5 and he walked through both of them.
Yeah, definately I would say Tyson just needs to even touch Lennoxs chin it was THAT bad
Sure, Tyson didnt knock him out in there fight
Neither did Tua
Neither did Ruddock
Neither did Bruno
Neither did Grant
Neither did Golota
Neither did Klitschko
But heck, in fights when Lennox wasnt at his best he got fucked royally by lucky punches. A total of 2 friggin times! Can you believe that!! The guy has no chin and gets boned twice in like 15 years
So yeah, you obviously know your boxing good to see you on this forum we really need more guys like you
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
HAha thanks. My point is that if lewis can get stopped by rahman and mcall, tyson can stop him.
I have a dvd of the smith and tucker fights.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
HAha thanks. My point is that if lewis can get stopped by rahman and mcall, tyson can stop him.
I have a dvd of the smith and tucker fights.
Yes. Lewis is too slow. Blow-for-blow Tyson wins and all Tyson needed to beat Lewis was more speed.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by Boxing Game Maker
Could a prime Iron Mike Tyson have beat a Prime Monster in Lewis it truly would have been a battle of brawler vs boxer. Who do you think would have won?
"Monster" Lewis. (LOL) :lolhaha:
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
HAha thanks. My point is that if lewis can get stopped by rahman and mcall, tyson can stop him.
I have a dvd of the smith and tucker fights.
Well we can say that if the likes of Buster Douglas can totally out box Tyson and KO him to fuck, Â and Holyfield can out box Tyson and KO him to fuck, Â then surely Lewis could of !!
And dont say Tyson wasn't in his prime when he fought Buster Douglas or Holyfield, Â cos then I would say, Â when Lewis fought MCcall no way was he in his prime, Â and Rahman I dont think he was in his prime then, Â after the Rahman fight you seen Lewis on a mission and the performance he put in the Rahman rematch was nothing short of amazing !!
Tyson got KOED 4 times in his career, by 4 different people  would of been 5 if he would of carried on fighting in the Holyfield fight,  so why not make out he had a weak chin ???
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
As for Lewis not having a good chin, you can think that, but I have seen him take punches off Tyson, Holyfield, Mercer, Tua, Ruddock, Grant, all of them considered as the heaviest hitters around at the time and they didn't knock him out !!
The MCcall stoppage I thought was awful, he was up at 7, imagine if they would of stopped Holyfield when he got knocked down against Bowe in their first fight in round 10, Holyfield was in alot worse shape than what Lewis was, Lewis complained like fuck after that stoppage !!
The Rahman fight, was Lewis being lazy and thinking he could just show up and win, and he got hit off a punch that I truthfully think would of KOED most Heavyweights and it was how he went down that did the most damage !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
HAha thanks. My point is that if lewis can get stopped by rahman and mcall, tyson can stop him.
I have a dvd of the smith and tucker fights.
Well we can say that if the likes of Buster Douglas can totally out box Tyson and KO him to f***, Â and Holyfield can out box Tyson and KO him to f***, Â then surely Lewis could of !!
And dont say Tyson wasn't in his prime when he fought Buster Douglas or Holyfield, Â cos then I would say, Â when Lewis fought MCcall no way was he in his prime, Â and Rahman I dont think he was in his prime then, Â after the Rahman fight you seen Lewis on a mission and the performance he put in the Rahman rematch was nothing short of amazing !!
Tyson got KOED 4 times in his career, by 4 different people  would of been 5 if he would of carried on fighting in the Holyfield fight,  so why not make out he had a weak chin ???
They both fought a lot of the same bums.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by Boxing Game Maker
Could a prime Iron Mike Tyson have beat a Prime Monster in Lewis it truly would have been a battle of brawler vs boxer. Who do you think would have won?
"Monster" Lewis. (LOL)  :lolhaha:
Says the 5ft 8 stone spotty nerdlinger ::)
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Tyson was never stopped by a single punch like lewis was TWICE. Tyson was always stopped by dozens of punches in a row like douglas,lewis, holyfield, williams.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
Tyson was never stopped by a single punch like lewis was TWICE. Tyson was always stopped by dozens of punches in a row like douglas,lewis, holyfield, williams.
Yeah, but if you watch alot of Lewis's fights, he took many of big punches and fired back off the likes of Tua, mercer, Holyfield the 1 punch off Rahman that Koed him, I dont count the MCcall one, Lewis was up at 7 and was able to continue ... you think different, look at some of the best fights ever and some of the state of some boxers when they had been knocked down and were left to carry on, it was for the heavyweight title for fuck sake. Lewis was not given the chance, But there is no way that anyone can say he was not up and complaining, if that exact knockdown happened in the first Lewis-Holyfield fight, just say if Lewis knocked him down, Holyfield would of got a chance to carry on, its just that Lewis was and is not a popular boxer, and only the real boxing fans will respect what lewis did and what he was. The others, well they are irrelvent !!
Just because the brainless boxing fan that is used to watching Tyson KO some bum in 1 round and get a big hard on, and I have been one of them !!LOL well Ive got news for you lot, in the real world, it dont happen like that !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
Tyson was never stopped by a single punch like lewis was TWICE. Tyson was always stopped by dozens of punches in a row like douglas,lewis, holyfield, williams.
I agree. Kevin Rooney said that when Mike was younger, he would see him get hammered sometimes in sparring sessions but would walk through it. The Rahman KO of Lennox almost looked fake. Lennox was backing up, and it looked like he was grinning and smiling arrogantly; Rahman sneaks in a big overhand punch on him; Lewis falls back, hits his head on the ropes, and never gets up.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
Tyson was never stopped by a single punch like lewis was TWICE. Tyson was always stopped by dozens of punches in a row like douglas,lewis, holyfield, williams.
Yeah,  but if you watch alot of Lewis's fights,  he took many of big punches and fired back off the likes of Tua, mercer, Holyfield     the 1 punch off Rahman that Koed him,   I dont count the MCcall one,  Lewis was up at 7 and was able to continue ...  you think different, look at some of the best fights ever and some of the state of some boxers when they had been knocked down and were left to carry on,  it was for the heavyweight title for f*** sake.  Lewis was not given the chance,   But there is no way that anyone can say he was not up and complaining,   if that exact knockdown happened in the first Lewis-Holyfield fight,  just say if Lewis knocked him down,  Holyfield would of got a chance to carry on,   its just that Lewis was and is not a popular boxer,  and only the real boxing fans will respect what lewis did and what he was.  The others,  well they are irrelvent !!
Just because the brainless boxing fan that is used to watching Tyson KO some bum in 1 round and get a big hard on, and I have been one of them !!LOL  well Ive got news for you lot,  in the real world,  it dont happen like that !!
In that fight, Lewis was seeing stars when he got hit by Rahman. He layed there and got up looking dizzy. That's why they stopped it. Then, Lewis complains but you could clearly see that Lewis had went coo-coo for coco puffs! (LOL) One shot and the dumb ass quit all that grinning and smiling in the ring, didn't he?
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Can anyone here really say that rahman isnt one powerful bastard?
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Can anyone here really say that rahman isnt one powerful b******?
Rahman has a nice, hard, stiff jab and doesn't move too bad for a big man. He just comes in at like 260 pounds and he is kind of lumbering sometimes, lacking agility. He might be better in football.  :)
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by snakey
Can anyone here really say that rahman isnt one powerful b******?
Rahman has a nice, hard, stiff jab and doesn't move too bad for a big man. He just comes in at like 260 pounds and he is kind of lumbering sometimes, lacking agility. He might be better in football. :)
Although i admit i was surprised that he couldnt ko kali meehan AND i want to see a rematch between them since meehan had a injured hand >:(
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by muchmoore
Tyson was never stopped by a single punch like lewis was TWICE. Tyson was always stopped by dozens of punches in a row like douglas,lewis, holyfield, williams.
Yeah,  but if you watch alot of Lewis's fights,  he took many of big punches and fired back off the likes of Tua, mercer, Holyfield     the 1 punch off Rahman that Koed him,   I dont count the MCcall one,  Lewis was up at 7 and was able to continue ...  you think different, look at some of the best fights ever and some of the state of some boxers when they had been knocked down and were left to carry on,  it was for the heavyweight title for f*** sake.  Lewis was not given the chance,   But there is no way that anyone can say he was not up and complaining,   if that exact knockdown happened in the first Lewis-Holyfield fight,  just say if Lewis knocked him down,  Holyfield would of got a chance to carry on,   its just that Lewis was and is not a popular boxer,  and only the real boxing fans will respect what lewis did and what he was.  The others,  well they are irrelvent !!
Just because the brainless boxing fan that is used to watching Tyson KO some bum in 1 round and get a big hard on, and I have been one of them !!LOL  well Ive got news for you lot,  in the real world,  it dont happen like that !!
In that fight, Lewis was seeing stars when he got hit by Rahman. He layed there and got up looking dizzy. That's why they stopped it. Then, Lewis complains but you could clearly see that Lewis had went coo-coo for coco puffs! (LOL) One shot and the dumb ass quit all that grinning and smiling in the ring, didn't he?
Can you read DrUglyhead ..... I said Lewis complained like fuck after the MCcall fight got stopped !! ::)
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes, do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other fucker for that fact, because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman. 15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis, you can not get a better FUCK YOU to all the Lewis haters than that, read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes, do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other fucker for that fact, because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman. 15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis, you can not get a better FUCK YOU to all the Lewis haters than that, read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
I dont think ppl should hate lewis coz he did a lot of things no one else could do. Just imagine if lewis hadnt got caught by 2 lucky shots, he would of been the second person in history to reitre undefeated.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by snakey
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes, do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other f***er for that fact, because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman. 15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis, you can not get a better f*** YOU to all the Lewis haters than that, read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
I dont think ppl should hate lewis coz he did a lot of things no one else could do. Just imagine if lewis hadnt got caught by 2 lucky shots, he would of been the second person in history to reitre undefeated.
Good point Snakey !! cool click
Hey even if he did Snakey these Lewis haters would find something else to pick up on and slate him, Do you know that Lewis won everything that there was to win in his boxing career. Everything !!
Olympic Gold medal, Commonwealth games gold medal, British Title, european title, Commonwealth title, World title 3 times, beat Holyfield twice, smashed Tyson and beat Bowe in the process and beat every man he faced in the ring as a pro.
But still you get 5ft 110lbs spotty ugly herberts like DrUglyhead who can make pot shots at him !! Sad fuck
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes,   do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other f***er for that fact,  because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman.  15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis,  you can not get a better f*** YOU to all the Lewis haters than that,  read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
So what's the difference when Tyson got beat by Douglas? I'm sure most people believe that he would've knocked him out in the rematch hadn't Holyfield hurried up and snuck in on the opportunity to strip the one-shot bum of his title. I knew this and picked Lewis to win the rematch. Furthermore, as I watched the fight - I knew it was only a matter of time before Lewis would KO Rahman and I give Lewis props! That "two-piece" that he put on Rahman was some of the prettiest punches that I ever saw executed like that! I was impressed and shocked because I didn't even know that Lewis had it in him like that. Rahman fell like a ton of bricks!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes,   do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other f***er for that fact,  because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman.  15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis,  you can not get a better f*** YOU to all the Lewis haters than that,  read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
So what's the difference when Tyson got beat by Douglas? I'm sure most people believe that he would've knocked him out in the rematch hadn't Holyfield hurried up and snuck in on the opportunity to strip the one-shot bum of his title. I knew this and picked Lewis to win the rematch. Furthermore, as I watched the fight - I knew it was only a matter of time before Lewis would KO Rahman and I give Lewis props! That "two-piece" that he put on Rahman was some of the prettiest punches that I ever saw executed like that! I was impressed and shocked because I didn't even know that Lewis had it in him like that. Rahman fell like a ton of bricks!
What do you mean DrUglyhead ... what is the difference ???
There is a big difference, Lewis got straight back in there with Rahman and did get revenge.
Tyson never got straight back in there with Douglas, and you say most people agree that Tyson WOULD ( another one of the woulds ) of won against Douglas in a rematch, well you all can agree as much as you want, the fact is he was lucky to win 2 rounds against Douglas and it is not fact that Tyson would of KOED douglas in a rematch, If you watched the Tyson-Dougals fight and you never knew who the fuck Tyson was and you had never heard of him and watched that fight, you wouldn't give Tyson a chance in the rematch, he got his head boxed off all night.
The difference is .........with Lewis, it was obvious to everyone that Rahman had just landed a lucky punch !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by snakey
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes, do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other f***er for that fact, because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman. 15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis, you can not get a better f*** YOU to all the Lewis haters than that, read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
I dont think ppl should hate lewis coz he did a lot of things no one else could do. Just imagine if lewis hadnt got caught by 2 lucky shots, he would of been the second person in history to reitre undefeated.
Good point Snakey !! cool click
Hey even if he did Snakey these Lewis haters would find something else to pick up on and slate him,   Do you know that Lewis won everything that there was to win in his boxing career.  Everything !!
Olympic Gold medal, Commonwealth games gold medal, British Title, european title, Commonwealth title, World title 3 times,  beat Holyfield twice, smashed Tyson and beat Bowe in the process and beat every man he faced in the ring as a pro.Â
But still you get 5ft 110lbs spotty ugly herberts like DrUglyhead who can make pot shots at him !!   Sad f***
He didn't beat Bowe.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Wrong again DrUglyhead
watch the final of the 1988 olympics, 2 rounds stopped bowe, to win gold. Bowe never turned up to pick his silver medal up cos he was crying. the bitch !! ;D
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes,   do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other f***er for that fact,  because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman.  15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis,  you can not get a better f*** YOU to all the Lewis haters than that,  read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
So what's the difference when Tyson got beat by Douglas? I'm sure most people believe that he would've knocked him out in the rematch hadn't Holyfield hurried up and snuck in on the opportunity to strip the one-shot bum of his title. I knew this and picked Lewis to win the rematch. Furthermore, as I watched the fight - I knew it was only a matter of time before Lewis would KO Rahman and I give Lewis props! That "two-piece" that he put on Rahman was some of the prettiest punches that I ever saw executed like that! I was impressed and shocked because I didn't even know that Lewis had it in him like that. Rahman fell like a ton of bricks!
What do you mean DrUglyhead ... what is the difference ???
There is a big difference, Lewis got straight back in there with Rahman and did get revenge.
Tyson never got straight back in there with Douglas,  and you say most people agree that Tyson WOULD ( another one of the woulds ) of won against Douglas in a rematch,  well you all can agree as much as you want,  the fact is he was lucky to win 2 rounds against Douglas and it is not fact that Tyson would of KOED douglas in a rematch,  If you watched the Tyson-Dougals fight and you never knew who the f*** Tyson was and you had never heard of him and watched that fight,  you wouldn't give Tyson a chance in the rematch,  he got his head boxed off all night.Â
The difference is .........with Lewis,  it was obvious to everyone that Rahman had just landed a lucky punch !!
First of all, Rahman was in good shape against Lewis. Â He was just the right person at the right time and had Lewis' number. Â He was a big guy like him and put a nice, stiff jab on Lewis that he evidently was never use to before. Â Watch the fight again. Â Rahman didn't just get "lucky." Â You may say that the "shot" was lucky, but it also wouldn't have been lucky if Lewis wasn't so busy smiling, being cocky, and had his hands down to his sides thinking he can really box like Ali but can't! Â Rahman was pushing Lewis around early.
Now as far as Tyson and Douglas are concerned, Douglas did come into that fight in the best shape of his life! Â Douglas was in excellent shape for that fight and rumors are that King was up to something and Tyson didn't even train much for that fight. Â Nevertheless, Douglas won that fight and he was sharper than Mike that night, but he was still in for a rude awakening when it was about the 8th round and remember Mike had completely negated everything that Buster had done when he popped him which resulted in the controversial 10 count. I think that it was possible that King had set Tyson up - just like he did when Ali got beat by Leon Spinks.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Wrong again DrUglyhead
watch the final of the 1988 olympics,  2 rounds stopped bowe,  to win gold.  Bowe never turned up to pick his silver medal up cos he was crying. the bitch !! ;D
In the "pros" - Lamont, ya big dummy!!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Olympic Gold medal, Commonwealth games gold medal, British Title, european title, Commonwealth title, World title 3 times, beat Holyfield twice, smashed Tyson and beat Bowe in the process and beat every man he faced in the ring as a pro.
That is what I typed, I did mention the Olympic gold medal didn't I ???
I think so !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Wrong again DrUglyhead
watch the final of the 1988 olympics,  2 rounds stopped bowe,  to win gold.  Bowe never turned up to pick his silver medal up cos he was crying. the bitch !! ;D
Wrong again. Amateurs don't count. If that's the case, then Stevie Lil But Bad Johnston beat Sugar Shane Mosley and Tyson got beat by Greg Paige.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Hey you also go into detail into how Lewis got KOED by Rahman and make jokes,   do us all a favour DrUglyhead describe what happened in the rematch with Rahman.
Also describe how Rahman didn't want any part of another fight with Lewis and neither did HBO or any other f***er for that fact,  because we all knew Lewis was 100 times better boxer than Hazbeen Rahman.  15 mins of fame up with a even better picked dig a round earlier than what he did to Lewis,  you can not get a better f*** YOU to all the Lewis haters than that,  read it and weap DrUglyhead !!
So what's the difference when Tyson got beat by Douglas? I'm sure most people believe that he would've knocked him out in the rematch hadn't Holyfield hurried up and snuck in on the opportunity to strip the one-shot bum of his title. I knew this and picked Lewis to win the rematch. Furthermore, as I watched the fight - I knew it was only a matter of time before Lewis would KO Rahman and I give Lewis props! That "two-piece" that he put on Rahman was some of the prettiest punches that I ever saw executed like that! I was impressed and shocked because I didn't even know that Lewis had it in him like that. Rahman fell like a ton of bricks!
What do you mean DrUglyhead ... what is the difference ???
There is a big difference, Lewis got straight back in there with Rahman and did get revenge.
Tyson never got straight back in there with Douglas,  and you say most people agree that Tyson WOULD ( another one of the woulds ) of won against Douglas in a rematch,  well you all can agree as much as you want,  the fact is he was lucky to win 2 rounds against Douglas and it is not fact that Tyson would of KOED douglas in a rematch,  If you watched the Tyson-Dougals fight and you never knew who the f*** Tyson was and you had never heard of him and watched that fight,  you wouldn't give Tyson a chance in the rematch,  he got his head boxed off all night.Â
The difference is .........with Lewis,  it was obvious to everyone that Rahman had just landed a lucky punch !!
First of all, Rahman was in good shape against Lewis. Â He was just the right person at the right time and had Lewis' number. Â He was a big guy like him and put a nice, stiff jab on Lewis that he evidently was never use to before. Â Watch the fight again. Â Rahman didn't just get "lucky." Â You may say that the "shot" was lucky, but it also wouldn't have been lucky if Lewis wasn't so busy smiling, being cocky, and had his hands down to his sides thinking he can really box like Ali but can't! Â Rahman was pushing Lewis around early.
Now as far as Tyson and Douglas are concerned, Douglas did come into that fight in the best shape of his life!  Douglas was in excellent shape for that fight and rumors are that King was up to something and Tyson didn't even train much for that fight.  Nevertheless, Douglas won that fight and he was sharper than Mike that night, but he was still in for a rude awakening when it was about the 8th round and remember Mike had completely negated everything that Buster had done when he popped him which resulted in the controversial 10 count. I think that it was possible that King had set Tyson up - just like he did when Ali got beat by Leon Spinks.
Once again its how you say things DrUglyhead, You say Rahman was in GOOD shape ... But you state that Douglas was in EXCELLENT shape for the Tyson fight.
You also make a big point that Tyson never trained for the Douglas fight, The exact same can be said about Lewis because 2 weeks before the fight Lewis was still on a film set of oceans 11 mixing it up with movie stars, he also weighed in his heaviest ever for that fight at that time in his career. The fight was also in south africa where you really need to have 5 weeks at least to climatetise, Lewis had less than 2 week !!
You are so ready to make excuses for Tyson but you forget alot of facts about Lewis's loss, weird that isn' t it !!
So Lewis had never fought against someone with a good jab ??? Tucker had a good jab Bruno did, the fact is watch the Lewis-Rahman first fight and you can see who the best boxer was, (lewis) watch the Tyson-Doulgas fight with un biased eyes and you know who the best boxer was. (douglas)
Watch the Lewis-Rahman rematch and watch an all time great doing what he does best !!
Don King set Tyson up ..LMAO thats a new excuse, aint heard that one from you before DrUglyhead !! Keep em coming, they are funny !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Wrong again DrUglyhead
watch the final of the 1988 olympics,  2 rounds stopped bowe,  to win gold.  Bowe never turned up to pick his silver medal up cos he was crying. the bitch !! ;D
Wrong again. Amateurs don't count. If that's the case, then Stevie Lil But Bad Johnston beat Sugar Shane Mosley and Tyson got beat by Greg Paige.
Wrong again DrUglymush .... Greg Page was a pro when Tyson was a amateur, your getting mixed up with Henry Tillman !!
Oh yeah, whats this shit all about, it dont count ??? LOL
It sure does count when there is a olympic gold medal on the line, some fighters say thats the biggest moment of their careers even more than winning a world title !! damn your stupid !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Once again its how you say things DrUglyhead,  You say Rahman was in GOOD shape ...  But you state that Douglas was in EXCELLENT shape for the Tyson fight. Â
You also make a big point that Tyson never trained for the Douglas fight,  The exact same can be said about Lewis because 2 weeks before the fight Lewis was still on a film set of oceans 11 mixing it up with movie stars,  he also weighed in his heaviest ever for that fight at that time in his career.  The fight was also in south africa where you really need to have 5 weeks at least to climatetise,  Lewis had less than 2 week !!
You are so ready to make excuses for Tyson but you forget alot of facts about Lewis's loss, weird that isn' t it !!
So Lewis had never fought against someone with a good jab ??? Tucker had a good jab Bruno did,  the fact is watch the Lewis-Rahman first fight and you can see who the best boxer was, (lewis)  watch the Tyson-Doulgas fight with un biased eyes and you know who the best boxer was. (douglas)
Watch the Lewis-Rahman rematch and watch an all time great doing what he does best !!
Don King set Tyson up ..LMAO thats a new excuse,  aint heard that one from you before DrUglyhead !!  Keep em coming,  they are funny !!
Heard rumors about it. Â That's when Tyson's career started going downhill some when him and King's relationship wasn't the same.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Wrong again DrUglyhead
watch the final of the 1988 olympics,  2 rounds stopped bowe,  to win gold.  Bowe never turned up to pick his silver medal up cos he was crying. the bitch !! ;D
Wrong again. Amateurs don't count. If that's the case, then Stevie Lil But Bad Johnston beat Sugar Shane Mosley and Tyson got beat by Greg Paige.
Wrong again DrUglymush ....    Greg Page was a pro when Tyson was a amateur, your getting mixed up with Henry Tillman !!
Oh yeah,  whats this s*** all about, it dont count ??? LOL
It sure does count when there is a olympic gold medal on the line,  some fighters say thats the biggest moment of their careers even more than winning a world title !! damn your stupid !!
Tyrell Biggs. (LOL) I think you are the one that's stupid.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
So your saying that Henry Tillman did not beat Tyson twice as a amateur ???
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
So your saying that Henry Tillman did not beat Tyson twice as a amateur ???Â
I know Henry Tillman got his butt kicked by Tyson in 1 round in the pros.
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
I'm off to work anyway DrGozzyModo ..... we will carry on this arguement when I get back.
Do me a big afvour will ya read up on some boxing shit its getting boring correcting you all the time ... ;D
Later shitbox !!
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
Lennox Lewis suffered 2 fast counts in his career.
The average time for a 10 count is about 17 seconds. The one against McCall Lennox had 9.4 and the one against Rahman was 9.6 or something similiar
He always had it against him
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Re: Prime Tyson VS Prime Lewis
We should change this threads name to rocky marshmellow vs drgoodlooking aka druglyhead