Oscar to fight Steve Forbes on May 3rd - part of 'Free HBO weekend'

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Catchweight at 150 pounds (!). Forbes have fought at that weight before though, as it was the weight limit for participants in Season Two of The Contender.

Giving it a bit of thought, I actually don't mind this. Sure, it is a meaningless fight, made only to make ODLH look good. But if, as many here claim, DLH is meaningless anyway, it should be only good that he doesnt confuse 'the title picture', right? Let the real McCoys fight each other and all that.

Also, if this indeed mean 'free HBO', as in 'people who do not subscribe to HBO can watch it anyway', then this will get a hell of a lot more viewers than any other recent boxing fight. And that promotion should be good for the sport, right? And finally, fighting in a stadium would give a much better chance for his fans to see him in action, than fighting in 10.000-capacities Casinos with reservations for high-rollers, so that should be applauded as well. Hatton-fans will know what I mean on this one.

It's an awful fight, don't get me wrong I like Steve Forbes and think he's a decent lightweight but come on he lost to Grady Brewer! :-X

His last loss was to Demetrious Hopkins at 140, although it was a notorious decision.
Two angles to view it from:
1) Shame on Oscar for picking on a much smaller guy
2)Congrats to Forbes on what is set to be his biggest pay day.

......De la Hoya couldn't fight Forrest? De la Hoya couldn't fight Spinks? De la Hoya couldn't fight Ouma? De la Hoya couldn't fight Margarito? Alcine? Joel Julio?

This fight is PATHETIC

I actually place the blame on Oscar. I cannot bring myself to blame Forbes for going in search of a huge pay day like this.

De la Hoya, is actually abusing his power as promoter already, how can he justify this?

Apparently since it's a "tune up fight" he figures he can fight anyone he pleases ......what about frickin vernon Forrest, he's no big time fighter anymore he sheisted Quartey out of a win and he just isn't all that good anymore HOWEVER he did beat Shane Mosley TWICE and that counts for something!

Oscar needs to fight fights that intrest the public and not ones that bore them to tears!

You mean I just wasted my money on a "Oscar-Forbes....Mega-Fight" T-shirt for nothing?

:'(

any word on where this will take place? venue?

Utah.

Damn he is really taking a chance now. I guess his proposed match with Brian Sutherland fell through.

;D

This topic should be merged. I wish I had the power.

DeLaHypa should fight a swinging sack of steel ball bearings instead.This is a "production" event, with respect to Forbes.
Was Phillip Holiday busy?

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Damn he is really taking a chance now. I guess his proposed match with Brian Sutherland fell through.

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CC. Fuckin Brian Sutherland... ;D ;D :lolololol:

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Apparently since it's a "tune up fight" he figures he can fight anyone he pleases ......what about frickin vernon Forrest, he's no big time fighter anymore he sheisted Quartey out of a win and he just isn't all that good anymore HOWEVER he did beat Shane Mosley TWICE and that counts for something!

Oscar needs to fight fights that intrest the public and not ones that bore them to tears!

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Now I'm not saying this is going to be a competitive fight, but Lyle, use your fucking head. What on earth do you mean, why not Vernon Forrest?? He's looking for a TUNE UP fight, before he cashes in again fighting Mayweather. Vernon Forrest wouldn't sell any more tickets than him fighting Steve Forbes(in fact if anything less). And, Forrest would have a GREAT chance to beat Oscar. I'm talking a complete pick-em fight at this point in their careers. Now why the fuk would Oscar want to take that fight? It's like I always say. You can't blame Oscar for taking a guarenteed win for the same amount of money that he'd get to fight someone who could very well beat his ass. It's just a no brainer as far as that fighter is concered. The problem lies with the fact that he COULD make as much fighting Forbes, or Paulie, as he would Forrest or a real threat. But to blame the fighters themselves is retarded, I've always said this and always will. The reason the UFC has put boxing to shame in terms of matchmaking is a) the fact that it is marketed WAY better, and the undercards of big events actually have good fights that turn casual viewers on to new fighters... and b) Dana White owns every fighter, they are all under the same promoter. Therefore he has nothing to lose pitting top prospects/ stars against each other. Now combine all this with the fact that 99% of people who will watch Oscar fight( and generally would) don't know who Forbes or Forrest are, it make for an identical matchup from a promotional standpoint. All they have to do is hype up Forbes and his contender run, as well as the Dhop robbery, and people think it's a good competitive fight. You've got to remember that a vast majority of people who watch Oscar fight have no clue about his opponent, and to an extent it's always been that way.

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Apparently since it's a "tune up fight" he figures he can fight anyone he pleases ......what about frickin vernon Forrest, he's no big time fighter anymore he sheisted Quartey out of a win and he just isn't all that good anymore HOWEVER he did beat Shane Mosley TWICE and that counts for something!

Oscar needs to fight fights that intrest the public and not ones that bore them to tears!

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Now I'm not saying this is going to be a competitive fight, but Lyle, use your fucking head. What on earth do you mean, why not Vernon Forrest?? He's looking for a TUNE UP fight, before he cashes in again fighting Mayweather. Vernon Forrest wouldn't sell any more tickets than him fighting Steve Forbes(in fact if anything less). And, Forrest would have a GREAT chance to beat Oscar. I'm talking a complete pick-em fight at this point in their careers. Now why the fuk would Oscar want to take that fight? It's like I always say. You can't blame Oscar for taking a guarenteed win for the same amount of money that he'd get to fight someone who could very well beat his ass. It's just a no brainer as far as that fighter is concered. The problem lies with the fact that he COULD make as much fighting Forbes, or Paulie, as he would Forrest or a real threat. But to blame the fighters themselves is retarded, I've always said this and always will. The reason the UFC has put boxing to shame in terms of matchmaking is a) the fact that it is marketed WAY better, and the undercards of big events actually have good fights that turn casual viewers on to new fighters... and b) Dana White owns every fighter, they are all under the same promoter. Therefore he has nothing to lose pitting top prospects/ stars against each other. Now combine all this with the fact that 99% of people who will watch Oscar fight( and generally would) don't know who Forbes or Forrest are, it make for an identical matchup from a promotional standpoint. All they have to do is hype up Forbes and his contender run, as well as the Dhop robbery, and people think it's a good competitive fight. You've got to remember that a vast majority of people who watch Oscar fight have no clue about his opponent, and to an extent it's always been that way.

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CC. You summed that up nicely.

.....Vernon Forrest hasn't really done much to make Oscar worried.....sure he beat Shane Mosely and Shane beat Oscar but that doesn't mean jack shit....hell Joe Frazier beat Ali and Foreman demolished Frazier and Ali had a relatively easy time with Big George.

Vernon Forrest had a tough time with Ike Quartey who is no spring chicken anymore.....Vernon is 37 and since his losses to Mayorga in 2003 he has fought 5 times and the biggest names on his record are Piccarillo and Baldomir....not exactly greats are they?

Hell I just wanted to see that match anyway....kind of like I wanted to see Mosley-Vargas or even Mosley-Trinidad (which i still wouldn't mind seeing).

Cory Spinks would be much more dangerous for ODH



And everyone talking about a Hatton-De la Hoya fight that would be a more lopsided victory than this fight vs Forbes.

That's exactly it though Lyle... Forrest hasn't done anything much recently. THat doesn't mean he hasn't done anything to make DLH worried though, wins on paper have little to do with how much of a threat a fighter is viewed as by his peers.. Forrest has LOOKED very good in his last two fights imo, he seems to be using his jab a lot more and has obviously recovered considerably from his shoulder problems. He's a big tall guy with a good jab, excellent right hand, and puts his punches together well for a guy so rangy... Beat Mosley twice, has a huge chip on his shoulder feeling as though he should have been recognized as one of the top WW's like Oscar was.. Of course Oscar has reason to be worried about that fight, not to mention once he realizes what meager sum he would make for possibly getting his ass beat. You think someone in DLH's position is going to take a total high risk low reward fight as a TUNE UP, when every fight is so much more taxing on him due to his age? Just think about it for two seconds, apparently that's a lot to ask of you.

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I actually place the blame on Oscar. I cannot bring myself to blame Forbes for going in search of a huge pay day like this.

De la Hoya, is actually abusing his power as promoter already, how can he justify this?

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As usual, I totally agree. Seriously if he wants someone who runs all night with no power, fucking fight Spinks, at least he has a title at you fucking weightclass Oscar. This is a joke!

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I actually place the blame on Oscar. I cannot bring myself to blame Forbes for going in search of a huge pay day like this.

De la Hoya, is actually abusing his power as promoter already, how can he justify this?

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As usual, I totally agree. Seriously if he wants someone who runs all night with no power, F****** fight Spinks, at least he has a title at you F****** weightclass Oscar. This is a joke!

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Spinks would beat Oscar Oscar only fights a risky fighter if theirs good money involved so he wil fight Forbes not mega money but a win then he will fight Mayweather lose but great money.

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I actually place the blame on Oscar. I cannot bring myself to blame Forbes for going in search of a huge pay day like this.

De la Hoya, is actually abusing his power as promoter already, how can he justify this?

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As usual, I totally agree. Seriously if he wants someone who runs all night with no power, F****** fight Spinks, at least he has a title at you F****** weightclass Oscar. This is a joke!

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Spinks would beat Oscar Oscar only fights a risky fighter if theirs good money involved so he wil fight Forbes not mega money but a win then he will fight Mayweather lose but great money.

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Spinks beat Oscar? Give me a fucking break. Oscar could outbox, outbrawl, outeverything that little coward. I would pick Oscar to knock Spinks out once he caught his punk ass in the later rounds. And I would rather see him fight Forbes than give that boring fraud a pay day.