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Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
It would be a HUGE domestic match,it's a winnable fight imo and would make him lots of £££ AND get him a win over arguably the second best 140 pounder.I'm not saying it has to happen right away but, I read and continue to read everywhere that he does not want to fight Witter because Witter keeps bad mouthing him? Erm....I'm sorry,isn't this the same Hatton that was saying noone wants to see Floyd fight,he's boring,mocking his training etc etc? Isn't that how he got the Floyd fight?
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
Because his confidence is severely knocked and in his current mental state he could be beaten by Witter.
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Because his confidence is severely knocked and in his current mental state he could be beaten by Witter.
That's why I said,it doesnt have to happen right away. He can build his confidence back up again but he appears to rule the fight out totally in interviews and comments I have read. And he ruled it out before the Foyd fight too.
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
Sorry I didn't detect that part.
I feel they well fight. It's a commonly held sentiment among other boxing fans, that perhaps Hatton was saving Witter for his send-off, a last hurrah so to speak and he hadn't accounted for Witter making so much noise. It will happen, I think Ricky knows his legacy will be tarnished if he's seen to duck Witter so I feel they'll fight.
I also feel the fight may arise sooner rather than later. Perhaps at the end of this year, if mandatories don't get in the way.
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I should think Hatton is ducking Witter.
Only time Witter was beaten was when he had to loose 15pounds in 2 weeks.
Witter is not an orthodox fighter by any means.
Also there'll be much more money in fighting a half rate American rather than a top class European boxer as we all know.
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
yep as long as they both win next fight or two this fight WILL happen. Hopefully the excitement Havye v Macca generates will force the momentum to line up other blockbuster domestic bouts - and this one tops the bill (along with
As said Ricky may need a fight or two to get his mental state back before he is ready for Witter. Let's grant him an easy one first - he deserves at least that.
But as stated I can see this one happening late this year or next spring at the latest.
Just hope Ricky hasn't left too much behindin that MGM ring.... :-\
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Hatton won't fight Witter no matter what in my eyes its pretty sad really Hatton says he does'nt want to fight Witter because of all the name calling and slagging off Witter has done towards Hatton.But is'nt this how Hatton got his fight with Mayweather???
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It will happen as soon as Witter gets himself more of a name in the states, by beating dhop he does this and then that means more money for both fighters...
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Hatton won't fight Witter no matter what in my eyes its pretty sad really Hatton says he does'nt want to fight Witter because of all the name calling and slagging off Witter has done towards Hatton.But is'nt this how Hatton got his fight with Mayweather???
In all seriousness, do you believe that one throwaway comment triggered the fight between Hatton and Maywether?
Were you not listening when the commentators said that the parties had been in negotiations for up to two years before?
And in reality, one comment is hardly comparable to years of demeaning, disrespectful and in some cases downright immature slurs?
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Hatton won't fight Witter in the future for the same reason he hasn't fought him in the past -- he'll probably lose. There are endless excuses for not fighting him in the future too so this is one fight that I never see happening. Easier to live with people claiming you ducked him than being embarrased in the ring.
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
Hatton won't fight Witter because he knows Witter will probably beat him i don't think Hatton could handle another loss.
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Hatton won't fight Witter because he knows Witter will probably beat him i don't think Hatton could handle another loss.
Hatton has never shyed away from any opponent.
He fought Tszyu and Mayweather. Two ATG's and in neither fight did he run or take a step back.
He will not be afraid of Junior.
I respect Junior Witter but the same cannot be said for him, he was intimidated out of a fight by Zab Judah.
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Hatton won't fight Witter because he knows Witter will probably beat him i don't think Hatton could handle another loss.
Hatton has never shyed away from any opponent.
He fought Tszyu and Mayweather. Two ATG's and in neither fight did he run or take a step back.
He will not be afraid of Junior.
I respect Junior Witter but the same cannot be said for him, he was intimidated out of a fight by Zab Judah.
He's claiming to be a world champion but until he fights Witter he can't even claim to be Northern Area champion. He fought endless has beens and never wasses between winning the WBU belt and Tszyu but unquestionably shied away from fighting Witter, otherwise they'd have fought around that time. Hatton certainly isn't confident of beating him, is he ?
EDIT : And he got in the ring with Judah on a few day's notice as a novice pro. He didn't fight nearly 40 tomato cans before fighting a world champion in his prime.
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It shocks me to think this but maybe just maybe hatton really belives he cant beat witter. Maybe he knows something we don't see.
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IMO Hatton has a bit of Gerry Cooney syndrome....Like Hatton Cooney had a devout fan following that praised him and felt he was better then he really was...(though I am not trying to take away from any of his skills nor Hattons both very good fighters,,,just that their fans seemed to think they were unbeatable)....A lot of pressure to have on your back...besides the already hugh amount of pressure of being a top tier fighter...
When Cooney lost to Holmes it destroyed his psyche....he felt not only like he lost the biggest bout of his career but he let down every supporter that wished him well,,,bet money on him etc....also let him know he was beatable...and when a fighter who is undefeated for so long and so highly thought of they begin to believe their own hype and press....then the loss is effected in the mind the most...
Cooney was never the same fighter after that...IMO unless Hatton recovers soon he will never be the same either...
Hatton will still be a championof course and right now still the best 140lbr in the world but...his mind set may end up costing him fights in the future that he could have won..
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End of the day nobody is more deserving of a fight with the number 1 than the number 2 and thats what Witter is number 2 he deserves his chance against the number 1 Hatton got his chance against Kostya when he was the number 1 at Lightwelter and Hatton was only about number 4 or 5 in The Ring ratingsand i know he was IBF number 1 contender.Hatton also has had his chance against Mayweather its about time Hatton gave some chances out rather than hand picking lesser fighters to be the best he should fight the best not fighters like Maussa,Collazo,Urango and OLD!! Castillo Im not a Hatton fan but his fans must be losing a little bit of faith in him.I just don't think he is that good he was found out in my opinion against Mayweather he got that close to Mayweather he could'nt throw punches all he could do was hold had he created abit of space to get his own punches off Mayweather would have KO'd him earlier.I think the same will happen with Witter and deep down i bet Hatton thinks the same.
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Hatton has never wanted to fight witter,for the last 8 years as witter got better and better,we had a different excuse,he's boring to watch,the americans dont like witter,we are building the fight up,he needs to beat a big name,he needs to win a world title,il never give him a big pay day,all bullshit,ricky's come forward style would play in2 witter's hands,he's a fast switch hitter wit an iron chin and a big punch,he would stop ricky,plus if he was to lose to him,junior would never let ricky forget it...
the fight will never happen...
im saying all this and im a huge hatton fan,he's one of my fav boxers,was gutted whwn floyd beat him but im sick of him ducking junior...
and before every1 tells me im not a hatton fan,i am,check back to december on these pages when i was picking hatton to beat floyd and was hoping he would...
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Hatton has never wanted to fight witter,for the last 8 years as witter got better and better,we had a different excuse,he's boring to watch,the americans dont like witter,we are building the fight up,he needs to beat a big name,he needs to win a world title,il never give him a big pay day,all bullshit,ricky's come forward style would play in2 witter's hands,he's a fast switch hitter wit an iron chin and a big punch,he would stop ricky,plus if he was to lose to him,junior would never let ricky forget it...
the fight will never happen...
im saying all this and im a huge hatton fan,he's one of my fav boxers,was gutted whwn floyd beat him but im sick of him ducking junior...
and before every1 tells me im not a hatton fan,i am,check back to december on these pages when i was picking hatton to beat floyd and was hoping he would...
CC#8 mate good post ;)
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It would be a HUGE domestic match,it's a winnable fight imo and would make him lots of £££ AND get him a win over arguably the second best 140 pounder.I'm not saying it has to happen right away but, I read and continue to read everywhere that he does not want to fight Witter because Witter keeps bad mouthing him? Erm....I'm sorry,isn't this the same Hatton that was saying noone wants to see Floyd fight,he's boring,mocking his training etc etc? Isn't that how he got the Floyd fight?
Because no one outside of the UK gives two sh*ts about Witter. I'm not sure they even care that much about him there. A win does nothing for his legacy, a loss would be disastrous for it. It would be an interesting fight for hard-core fans, but no one else would give a damn, and I don't blame him for passing.
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It would be a HUGE domestic match,it's a winnable fight imo and would make him lots of £££ AND get him a win over arguably the second best 140 pounder.I'm not saying it has to happen right away but, I read and continue to read everywhere that he does not want to fight Witter because Witter keeps bad mouthing him? Erm....I'm sorry,isn't this the same Hatton that was saying noone wants to see Floyd fight,he's boring,mocking his training etc etc? Isn't that how he got the Floyd fight?
Because no one outside of the UK gives two sh*ts about Witter. I'm not sure they even care that much about him there. A win does nothing for his legacy, a loss would be disastrous for it. It would be an interesting fight for hard-core fans, but no one else would give a damn, and I don't blame him for passing.
I shared your sentiments up until recently but now Rickys excuses are becoming lame .
Hes been knocked out and Witter is the WBC champ . Youd have liked Hatton to be eager to prove he is still the best from England let alone the world but it seems he will never fight Junior cuz it would have happend when he fought Pederson . Pinto pulled out Witer offered to step in but Hatton took on a bum instead . If it didnt happen then , then it aint gonna happen now through negotiation and we have Hatton to blame . Nice guy but hes being a bi*ch on this one .
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He's claiming to be a world champion but until he fights Witter he can't even claim to be Northern Area champion. He fought endless has beens and never wasses between winning the WBU belt and Tszyu but unquestionably shied away from fighting Witter, otherwise they'd have fought around that time. Hatton certainly isn't confident of beating him, is he ?
EDIT : And he got in the ring with Judah on a few day's notice as a novice pro. He didn't fight nearly 40 tomato cans before fighting a world champion in his prime.
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And who has Junior fought? On the domestic scene he was quite bold, but internationally? His resume is highlighted by Vivian Harris.....An old Vivian Harris.
If you wish to bering forward the other name Zab Judah, he has nothing to be proud of. Sure he entered at late notice, but how can that excuse being so intimidated he didn't engage for the whole "fight."
I will reiterate what has been said too many times at this stage; If Hatton was afraid of losing why wouyld he fight Mayweather? If he was afraid of losing why would he take on Kostya Tszyu, who Ko'd the man who beat Witter soundly?
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Hatton won't fight Witter because he knows Witter will probably beat him i don't think Hatton could handle another loss.
Hatton has never shyed away from any opponent.
He fought Tszyu and Mayweather. Two ATG's and in neither fight did he run or take a step back.
He will not be afraid of Junior.
I respect Junior Witter but the same cannot be said for him, he was intimidated out of a fight by Zab Judah.
to be fair it was very early in Witter's career and he did get the fight last minute.
At that time Judah was talked about as being a top level fighter who was lining up a fight with Kosta. He was also
touted as the man who would give PBF his toughest test. These are the 2 fighters that Hatton has most aclaim for facing
and he lost comprehensively to one. These were both when he was at the peak of his powers and had a perfect training camp.
Who knows what Witter may have managed if he had a bit more experience and confidence when he did fight Zab.
I wouldn't mind seeing Witter avenge that loss though
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Hatton won't fight Witter because he knows Witter will probably beat him i don't think Hatton could handle another loss.
Hatton has never shyed away from any opponent.
He fought Tszyu and Mayweather. Two ATG's and in neither fight did he run or take a step back.
He will not be afraid of Junior.
I respect Junior Witter but the same cannot be said for him, he was intimidated out of a fight by Zab Judah.
to be fair it was very early in Witter's career and he did get the fight last minute.
At that time Judah was talked about as being a top level fighter who was lining up a fight with Kosta. He was also
touted as the man who would give PBF his toughest test. These are the 2 fighters that Hatton has most aclaim for facing
and he lost comprehensively to one. These were both when he was at the peak of his powers and had a perfect training camp.
Who knows what Witter may have managed if he had a bit more experience and confidence when he did fight Zab.
I wouldn't mind seeing Witter avenge that loss though
Witter would spark Judah now . No doubt . If Hatton had short notice vs Judah he would be able to make weight let alone last 12 round s.
hitman donny - Losing to Floyd and Witter are two different things . Hatton has nothing to lose vs Floyd cuz nothing is expected of him and its against teh best fighter in the world . If he loses to Junior however the risk is much higher cuz hed never be able to hold his head up high in public again and would be exposed as the 2nd or 3rd best fighter in Britain .
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I will reiterate what has been said too many times at this stage; If Hatton was afraid of losing why wouyld he fight Mayweather? If he was afraid of losing why would he take on Kostya Tszyu, who Ko'd the man who beat Witter soundly?
He was fighting Tszyu as HUGE underdog,so he had everything to gain and nothing to lose. Against Mayweather,he was fighting the best fighter in the world,no shame in losing there. Fighting Witter is different. It's a fight he won't be entering as an underdog. It's a fight he won't be entering with nothing to lose. I think that's a legitimate reasons why he does not want to fight Witter.
I'm not defending who Witter has fought at all but I don't understand Hatton's logic in not fighting him at some point.
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Hatton has said he will not fight Witter cuz of Witter's past insults. But that's a lame excuse. As is the payday excuse. Since Witter has said he would take the smaller purse to fight Hatton. I think it's more of a case that Hatton sees Witter as a live threat. And he would absolutely hate to lose to Witter. Witter would never let him forget it. Hatton doesn't have the confidence that he can beat Witter like De La Hoya had when he fought Vargas. A fighter De La Hoya said he would never give the opportunity to fight him
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Hatton has said he will not fight Witter cuz of Witter's past insults. But that's a lame excuse. As is the payday excuse. Since Witter has said he would take the smaller purse to fight Hatton. I think it's more of a case that Hatton sees Witter as a live threat. And he would absolutely hate to lose to Witter. Witter would never let him forget it. Hatton doesn't have the confidence that he can beat Witter like De La Hoya had when he fought Vargas. A fighter De La Hoya said he would never give the opportunity to fight him
I know you dislike Hatton but those are some valid points,CC bro.Good example with Oscar and Vargas.
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Just you all wait, when Witter gets himself that tiny bit more of a name and another belt, Hatton will want him. He's waiting for the best time for it, why not fight Witter when he has more of a name and another belt instead of right now? As you have all said he is the number two and rightly so, why doesnt he get himself even better status and defiantly earn that Hatton fight. I will accept Hatton is ducking him if this is the case but untill then to say Hatton is scared of Witter is just shit really, hes not scared at all. Hes just waiting for Witter to become more of a challenger in the respect it will get more PPV and more legacy cementing.
If Witter beat Paulio Mallinagi, Gavin Rees and Ricardo Torres and faught Hatton, that would look x10 better if Hatton beat him, if he faught him now, it would just be another 140 fighter on Hattons record and what does that do for legacy? Not a lot i think. If Witter can get more of a name and Hatton fights against Him,Diaz and Manny Pac, thats what I call a legacy for Hatton. The floyd loss can go on the grounds that he was the best fighter in the world and Hatton showed his balls and faught and lost to the best in the world. But in doing that he did his best.
I think that Witter is capable of fighting the names at 140 and in doing so he will get a better name for himself to set up the Hatton fight. I just cant make this point anymore clearer in defence of Ricky, I believe that by this time next year we will see Witter fully deserving the fight and it will be a SUPERFIGHT at 140. For all of the belts, the ring magazine belt and a shit load of money. Both fighters get a better legacy, all will go down better for the fans too.
So what would you prefer that to happen or Hatton fight Witter now when he has no name in the USA and a WBC belt which doesnt mean too much, or a fight for all 4 belts, legacy, lots of money and something that the fans in Britian will deserve... I know which one i would choose! ;)
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Just you all wait, when Witter gets himself that tiny bit more of a name and another belt, Hatton will want him. He's waiting for the best time for it, why not fight Witter when he has more of a name and another belt instead of right now? As you have all said he is the number two and rightly so, why doesnt he get himself even better status and defiantly earn that Hatton fight. I will accept Hatton is ducking him if this is the case but untill then to say Hatton is scared of Witter is just shit really, hes not scared at all. Hes just waiting for Witter to become more of a challenger in the respect it will get more PPV and more legacy cementing.
If Witter beat Paulio Mallinagi, Gavin Rees and Ricardo Torres and faught Hatton, that would look x10 better if Hatton beat him, if he faught him now, it would just be another 140 fighter on Hattons record and what does that do for legacy? Not a lot i think. If Witter can get more of a name and Hatton fights against Him,Diaz and Manny Pac, thats what I call a legacy for Hatton. The floyd loss can go on the grounds that he was the best fighter in the world and Hatton showed his balls and faught and lost to the best in the world. But in doing that he did his best.
I think that Witter is capable of fighting the names at 140 and in doing so he will get a better name for himself to set up the Hatton fight. I just cant make this point anymore clearer in defence of Ricky, I believe that by this time next year we will see Witter fully deserving the fight and it will be a SUPERFIGHT at 140. For all of the belts, the ring magazine belt and a shit load of money. Both fighters get a better legacy, all will go down better for the fans too.
So what would you prefer that to happen or Hatton fight Witter now when he has no name in the USA and a WBC belt which doesnt mean too much, or a fight for all 4 belts, legacy, lots of money and something that the fans in Britian will deserve... I know which one i would choose! ;)
Your right Hatton is waiting for the best time. Witter is 33. A couple of more years and Witter would be 35, 36. He'll lose some of his reflexes and speed. He'll be less of a threat. Than Hatton would jump at the chance to face him. Hatton's coward ass ain't fooling nobody. It's been his pattern his whole career. Anybody that can't see that is just a blind groupie.
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It's sad really.
Hatton only got the fight with mayweather by taking shots at him every chance he got, the came to the ring like rus crowe, fought like sheral... sen more action in my 4 rounds than mayweathers career etc etc etc... thats how HE got his biggest pay day...
If someone has firmly been placed as the second best at said weight, the "champion" should fight him...
I'm not a witter fan, but this fight should happen without a doubt... If he is scared he will losse and can't live with that he should retire now... It's sad really when the best are fighting the best and hatton is seeming to be ducking witter... shit the losser of haye and enzo has a lot more to lose from hatotn witter, yet they are getting it on.
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End of the day Hatton needs to man up and fight Witter lets look at it this way if every fighter who got called names and insulted by another fighter said they were'nt gunna fight them we would'nt have many fights to watch.As most fights are built up and hyped up by insults and name calling thats what gets us the fans interested.Ricardo Mayorga's career has been built on insulting fighters and they still fight him and he says horrible things about fighters wives and mothers Ricky Hatton should get a grip im losing respect for him.
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Just you all wait, when Witter gets himself that tiny bit more of a name and another belt, Hatton will want him. He's waiting for the best time for it,
Witter is considered by pretty much every boxing fan who knows what there talking about to be 2nd or 3rd best Jr Welterweight in the world. So why does Witter have to make a name for himself ?? if thats the case then why did Hatton fight the virtually unknown Juan Urango ?? and why was Hatton considering fighting Rees who is much more less of a name than Witter is.
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As you have all said he is the number two and rightly so, why doesnt he get himself even better status and defiantly earn that Hatton fight. I will accept Hatton is ducking him if this is the case but untill then to say Hatton is scared of Witter is just S*** really, hes not scared at all. Hes just waiting for Witter to become more of a challenger in the respect it will get more PPV and more legacy cementing.
You just said yourself that you consider Witter the 2nd best Jr Welterweight in the world yes ?? so why does Witter have to get himself a better status if you and mostly every boxing fan consider him the 2nd best Jr Welterweight ?? Witter is already doing the right thing but fighting Hopkins and getting himself a name over in USA. So if Hatton does not fight Witter after that then that will be very disappointing on Hatton's part plus it will look very suspicious IMO. Witter has been calling Hatton out for years the fans want to see who really is number 1 Jr Welterweight in the world so why should Witter have to keep waiting ??
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If Witter beat Paulio Mallinagi, Gavin Rees and Ricardo Torres and faught Hatton, that would look x10 better if Hatton beat him, if he faught him now, it would just be another 140 fighter on Hattons record and what does that do for legacy? Not a lot i think.
That would take another 2 years at least will Hatton even be fighting then ??
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It would be a HUGE domestic match,it's a winnable fight imo and would make him lots of £££ AND get him a win over arguably the second best 140 pounder.I'm not saying it has to happen right away but, I read and continue to read everywhere that he does not want to fight Witter because Witter keeps bad mouthing him? Erm....I'm sorry,isn't this the same Hatton that was saying noone wants to see Floyd fight,he's boring,mocking his training etc etc? Isn't that how he got the Floyd fight?
He's skeered.
SKEERED I SAY!!!
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He's claiming to be a world champion but until he fights Witter he can't even claim to be Northern Area champion. He fought endless has beens and never wasses between winning the WBU belt and Tszyu but unquestionably shied away from fighting Witter, otherwise they'd have fought around that time. Hatton certainly isn't confident of beating him, is he ?
EDIT : And he got in the ring with Judah on a few day's notice as a novice pro. He didn't fight nearly 40 tomato cans before fighting a world champion in his prime.
And who has Junior fought? On the domestic scene he was quite bold, but internationally? His resume is highlighted by Vivian Harris.....An old Vivian Harris.
If you wish to bering forward the other name Zab Judah, he has nothing to be proud of. Sure he entered at late notice, but how can that excuse being so intimidated he didn't engage for the whole "fight."
I will reiterate what has been said too many times at this stage; If Hatton was afraid of losing why wouyld he fight Mayweather? If he was afraid of losing why would he take on Kostya Tszyu, who Ko'd the man who beat Witter soundly?
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Witter is the WBC champ, the recognised number one contender. And he lives a hundred miles away from Hatton.
Hatton fought Floyd for the huge payday. Losing at a higher weight to the p4p number one is no disgrace but losing at the weight you're supposed to be world number one at to a bloke up the road makes your career look like a bit of a fraud.
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
Hatton needs a confidence builder before he goes after Witter. I think Witter beats him either way but Hatton should take an easier fight first.
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He fears Witter,the guy is finished!!!!
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Just you all wait, when Witter gets himself that tiny bit more of a name and another belt, Hatton will want him. He's waiting for the best time for it, why not fight Witter when he has more of a name and another belt instead of right now? As you have all said he is the number two and rightly so, why doesnt he get himself even better status and defiantly earn that Hatton fight. I will accept Hatton is ducking him if this is the case but untill then to say Hatton is scared of Witter is just S*** really, hes not scared at all. Hes just waiting for Witter to become more of a challenger in the respect it will get more PPV and more legacy cementing.
If Witter beat Paulio Mallinagi, Gavin Rees and Ricardo Torres and faught Hatton, that would look x10 better if Hatton beat him, if he faught him now, it would just be another 140 fighter on Hattons record and what does that do for legacy? Not a lot i think. If Witter can get more of a name and Hatton fights against Him,Diaz and Manny Pac, thats what I call a legacy for Hatton. The floyd loss can go on the grounds that he was the best fighter in the world and Hatton showed his balls and faught and lost to the best in the world. But in doing that he did his best.
I think that Witter is capable of fighting the names at 140 and in doing so he will get a better name for himself to set up the Hatton fight. I just cant make this point anymore clearer in defence of Ricky, I believe that by this time next year we will see Witter fully deserving the fight and it will be a SUPERFIGHT at 140. For all of the belts, the ring magazine belt and a S*** load of money. Both fighters get a better legacy, all will go down better for the fans too.
So what would you prefer that to happen or Hatton fight Witter now when he has no name in the USA and a WBC belt which doesnt mean too much, or a fight for all 4 belts, legacy, lots of money and something that the fans in Britian will deserve... I know which one i would choose! ;)
Your right Hatton is waiting for the best time. Witter is 33. A couple of more years and Witter would be 35, 36. He'll lose some of his reflexes and speed. He'll be less of a threat. Than Hatton would jump at the chance to face him. Hatton's coward a** ain't fooling nobody. It's been his pattern his whole career. Anybody that can't see that is just a blind groupie.
But wont Hattons skills fall as well in 2 years? Witter is a nobody at this momment, he needs just a couple more names on his record and one more belt and that will be enough to tempt Hatton. I just dont understand why people dont want Witter to get even more status in order to fight Hatton. Hattons last few fights have to be against GOOD named fighters, at this momment I only see Witter as just another 140 pounder, not a career defineing fighting who offers something good on Hattons record. But im not saying that Witter can be something defining on his record just a win over D hop and another belt in my eyes will be enough for him to warrent the Hatton fight. I dont see what the problem for that is? In the end it will just make the fight bigger than it could be now, so just be patient and let the 140 devision unfold.
What would you all say if Witter got KTFO in his next fight anyway? I would just see him as another 140 pounder.
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
Kirkland:
Witter is the WBC champ, the recognised number one contender. And he lives a hundred miles away from Hatton.
Hatton fought Floyd for the huge payday. Losing at a higher weight to the p4p number one is no disgrace but losing at the weight you're supposed to be world number one at to a bloke up the road makes your career look like a bit of a fraud.
In boxing, anything is possible, who knows perhaps Witter could pull the upset, but is it likely?
Your assumptiuon that Witter would win is an opinion and you're entitled to it, but it is by no means the common consensus or a commonly held belief in boxing.
If Hatton does fight Witter what prevents the press (particularily the American press) from labeling it a gimme fight against a domestic opponent? Will that add credit to his legacy?
Gamo:
He was fighting Tszyu as HUGE underdog, so he had everything to gain and nothing to lose. Against Mayweather,he was fighting the best fighter in the world,no shame in losing there. Fighting Witter is different. It's a fight he won't be entering as an underdog. It's a fight he won't be entering with nothing to lose. I think that's a legitimate reasons why he does not want to fight Witter.
I'm not defending who Witter has fought at all but I don't understand Hatton's logic in not fighting him at some point.
So you feel that it's a fight Ricky would be a heavy favourite entering, he would be confident himself and thats why he's hesitant to fight him?
As I've said before I feel Hatton will box him at some point, but I do not feeel it will be immediate.
The fight is in demand yes, but by who? The British public primarily. There is little demand for this fight outside of the UK and it is a distinct possability the fight will be frowned upon by the American and global public who have alternative fights to offer him.
Sanj16:
to be fair it was very early in Witter's career and he did get the fight last minute.
At that time Judah was talked about as being a top level fighter who was lining up a fight with Kosta. He was also
touted as the man who would give PBF his toughest test. These are the 2 fighters that Hatton has most aclaim for facing
and he lost comprehensively to one. These were both when he was at the peak of his powers and had a perfect training camp.
Who knows what Witter may have managed if he had a bit more experience and confidence when he did fight Zab.
I wouldn't mind seeing Witter avenge that loss though
He got the fight two weeks before. That is sudden for any fighter of any calibre.
However, fans cannot have butter on both sides of the bread, they cannot praise their man for being always ready and willing tio fight anyone and then turn around and use the same as an excuse.
"He's always ready to fight and he's not afraid, but against Zab he wasn't ready and he was unprepared."
Against PBF, Hatton, was outboxed, outthought and outfought in a reasonably brave effort. But against Zab, Witter was intimidated out of performing, which do you find more demeaning?
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
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Because his confidence is severely knocked and in his current mental state he could be beaten by Witter.
If he loses to Junior however the risk is much higher cuz hed never be able to hold his head up high in public again and would be exposed as the 2nd or 3rd best fighter in Britain .
I read you Donny.... guess the safest bet for the fragile "Do not hit me Hatton"
is Laila Ali !!
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
Hattons no excuse to not fight Witter, he's made his money so why not give the fans
the fight they want? Witters said he can have the bigger share of the money so whats the problem.
I think he's scared of losing to Witter but it would be better to man up rather than run scared
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Re: Why doesn't Hatton get over himself and fight Witter?
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Kirkland:
Witter is the WBC champ, the recognised number one contender. And he lives a hundred miles away from Hatton.
Hatton fought Floyd for the huge payday. Losing at a higher weight to the p4p number one is no disgrace but losing at the weight you're supposed to be world number one at to a bloke up the road makes your career look like a bit of a fraud.
In boxing, anything is possible, who knows perhaps Witter could pull the upset, but is it likely?
Your assumptiuon that Witter would win is an opinion and you're entitled to it, but it is by no means the common consensus or a commonly held belief in boxing.
If Hatton does fight Witter what prevents the press (particularily the American press) from labeling it a gimme fight against a domestic opponent? Will that add credit to his legacy?
It's very likely that Witter would beat Hatton. Hatton's style is made for him and Witter has the ability to make Hatton look very bad indeed.
I'm not sure whether a Hatton win is such a commonly held view. I'm sure there are plenty of people who think Witter would beat him.
Hatton is likely to take a far easier fight than Witter next and for subsequent fights too. How can fighting a WBC champion be seen as a gimme? Fighting Witter, the WBC champ and number one 140 pound contender is the least easy option at 140. Can you think of anybody who could give him a tougher fight at 140?