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Here you go. Basics first.
The Key to defense
Alright, now Offense comes and goes, but defense is what wins in the end.
I’ll give you basic steps and movements to defense to help you. Whether you’re in boxing or just in the streets doing what you know how to do when you’re doing it.
Basic 1#
A good Defense is a good Jab.
The Jab is the most important punch in boxing, not only does it measure for the right hand, but it also keeps your opponent at a distance, a distance away from you.
Think of a jab defense like this, stretch out your jab hand, to the limit, alright, see the distance? No one should be able to get inside this distance. No one! Allowing anyone inside that distance is a failure in this defense. You should be able to go an entire fight from out there, no one will come in. And you also have the strait right from that distance (or left, if you’re a southpaw). That’s a basic jab, you can power jab it from the waist if you want to. Just as long as no one gets in the distance, and that also means, changing timing on the jab so you won’t get countered by being timed, so switch it up.
Basic 2#
Keeping your front hand low is alright, but only at a safe distance.
It’s alright to keep your jab hand low for a power jab defense, but only at the jabbing safe distance, you can also tuck the chin back so the opponent either under, or over commits to get to your chin. But they should never get that close, remember that.
Basic 3#
Rolling with the punches.
The first step you must learn before learning to dodge punches is learning how to take them. This may seem crazy, but you must first learn to take punches before you dodge them.
What I mean is that any punch that connects with you, you must roll in that exact direction of the punch. If you get hit with a left hook, roll your head to the left with the punch, the same with the right hook. Learn this technique; watch Roberto Duran for examples of this. Once you learn this, you will react whenever a punch comes, but you will do it quick enough to not get hit, and will see punches coming better. Trust me it works.
Basic 4# Safe distance and the Danger Zone
One of the keys to mastering defense is knowing where you are and where you are not safe.
Now the safe Zone is the distance outside your jab where your opponent should be at all times even when against the ropes you’re in the safe Zone if your opponent is outside your jab.
The Danger Zone is anything inside the jab, and I mean ANYTHING.
Now certain rules apply when in certain Zones. And other rules don’t. Now if you abide by these rules, you should be fine. But if you break these rules, it could be fatal to your victory and or career.
RULES INTHE SAFE ZONE
1. Stay there: No opponent should ever get inside the Safe Zone, never.
2. Switch it up on the outside: Don’t be predictable, or you could get timed, so add some feints and strait rights to it, as long as you keep them at that distance.
3. Double up, not single: Double up the jab.
4. Front hand low at this distance only!!! : It’s okay to keep your front hand low. BUT ONLY AT THAT DISTANCE!!! Keeping the front low is only to get an opponent to over or under commit on a punch trying to get into your chin, in which case, step back and counter, but keep that same distance.
Alright, now that’s just the basics, I’ll get into more later.
RULES IN THE DANGER ZONE
1. GET BACK TO THE SAFE ZONE!!! : Never stay at the danger Zone too long, never to long, or you’ll get hurt. Once in the Danger Zone, get out of it immediately. You never want to be there. Do whatever it takes to get back at distance and that means, keep on moving!!!
2. Hands up: Keep your hands up when in Danger Zone distance, it’s the most danger you’ll be in. Don’t drop your hands under any circumstances.
3. Don’t be afraid to hold if Danger Zone on the ropes: When you’re on the ropes in danger Zone territory, grab your opponent, so when the ref splits you up, you can walk back at a safe distance and use your jab. Never be afraid to hold, it’s better to hold than get your jaw smashed in.
4. Don’t get careless: Keep your head, don’t lose concentration.
Later on I will teach you defensive techniques while in the Danger Zone Area, but I will save that for later, so just follow this until I give you defensive postures, stances, and movements.
In the meantime, I’d like some feedback. Anything that needs changing, or just what you thought.
A beautiful speech... :coolclick:
I haven't even read it yet, but you get a :coolclick: just for trying to help and spending time to post something like that.
Ok, now I read it. (going to use it tonight during sparring) O0
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Lemme get this straight, rolling with punches means moving your head into the punch, I see how this would make the punch weaker, but wouldn't it be better to practice or learn dodging or blocking instead of practicing or learning to move your head into a punch.
^^^ I'm sure he meant roll your head away from the punch not towards it..
I can see how it sounded confusing as he did mention move your head left for a left hook.. but if you think of your opponent using a left hook, it's connecting with the RIGHT side of your face, so turning your head left will move away from the punch.. or i guess you could say, rolling in the same direction as the punch "rolling with the punches"...
Getting it confused and rolling your head into the punch could be quite painful... :)
Thanks Purist,nice touch.
This needs to be placed in a spot so that it can be re read.
Not hidden away or lost into past pages.
Soon I belive we will have split sections that will deal with specific
areas.
You should keep posting ,counters , attacks etc etc and we can put your stuff into the right place and for keeps, once it happens.
;)
It's moving your head in the same direction of the punch, not the opposite way. The opposite way would get you hit, if you moved it in the same direction enough times, eventually it will become 2nd nature to roll with the punches, thereore making it easier to dodge them, whether by an inch or 2 ft.Quote:
Originally Posted by KO
thanks man that will come in help full will check it out tonight sparring
:box3:
LOL.
Move the same way as the punch eg straight right comes at ya - pull back
There's already too many sticky topics. We need to get rid of some of them. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
It's still moving the same way as the punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Missy
Strait punches, you lean your head back where the punch would snap or push it, pretty soon it will become reflex. You can also block the rights with your rear hand in cross or monguse position, but I'll get to that in lesson 2.
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I was using simple englussh for the hard of understanding ;)
ok i see how it will make em miss or the power of the punch will go down when it lands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Purist
but when your oppost throws a straight right.
wouldn't it be faster to counter when you slip to your left, bending your knees a little and twist in your right shoulder as you slip, you're now in a perfect position, to counter with a left hook or straight hen his arm is not even back yet
it's a matter of giving people options, you won't always be in perfect balance or the right place to counter/move/slip the one way.
I'm ready for part II O0
I would add two things. First keep your chin down. Pin it to your breast bone and move it as part of your torso; thats moving your head not those silly birdlike shimmies seen since tyson broke big. Second get your feet and balance right. Oh third, learn proper punching technique. Be amazed at how offense and defense are the exact same movements. { consider this; the move to slip a jab so that it goes over your right shoulder is the same as that of throwing a straight. Hence the straight right to the heart is the natural counter to a jab}
still waiting... >:(
I'll get it to you.
excellent purist good show :coolclick:
however.
this is aimed at newbs isnt it, cause keeping people out your danger zone is all good, but surely you need to get close to land those effective hooks and uppercuts?
you need to get inside the zone and last some into their body/head.
i know this is the idea, to forfeit your opponents zone, but in doing this you are also forfeiting yours.
what ive typed doesnt make much sense, but this is the best way i can describe what i mean
ya i see your saying to get into the opponents zone to hook and uppercut in effect their now in your zone also.
thats what im trying to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by warnotwars
i just cant speak proper like
but it is called guide to DEFENCE.
and getting in the zone to land punches does not go in this section
otherwise it was called offence/defence guide ;)
it isn't made for n00bs, but it is made for defence
yeah, sure, but even in defence you have to think of offense, as when your on the offense you have to think of your defence!Quote:
Originally Posted by Confirm
no good just blocking shots
You need to keep the opponent out of your zone, and not let him get you into his striking range. With a good defense, you can control whomever enters whomever's danger zone. The idea is to stop him from controlling the fight, by allowing you to decide when you step into his zone to deliver the shots without truly being in any real danger.
Until I finish the finishing touches on part two, I'll give you a maneuver to work on until then.
I call it the Psychic dodge.
There's no better way to doing defense than knowing what your opponent will do, even before they even know, this is a maneuver that will make your opponent do something 95 percent of the time, they have no other choice.
Start from your normal or southpaw stance, once your opponent throws the jab, immediately duck under it, but with your body staying in stance, by bending forward, if you do this correctly, you give your opponent no choice but to throw the rear cross, but since you know that already, so basically, lean the opposite way while taking a step to the side of your front foot, while bending your upper body away from the rear cross that's coming, you have successfully dodged their 1 2 combo and are on the other side of them, they may even be off balance.
This takes practice.  This move was made famous by Pernell Whitaker.
And it takes practice.
Notice you have forced your opponent to throw a punch they didn't want to throw, and you knew it before then, try it, and see how often it works. Remember, you must bend forward and slip a little under the jab while shifting your back leg forcing them to throw the rear cross, because you've closed some distance, and lean away from it to the opposite end.  Failure to do so, will get you hit by a jab, if they decide to double up. Also make sure your back is facing the opposite end where they threw the first punch, have your back facing the hand opposite the one they threw with.
Practice this until part 2 is completed.
TTT
Excellent post :band: :appl: :beerchug: :biggrin: :rocks:
Now after having said all that i will attempt to translate that to my 13 yr old
son who has not been a part of any sport.
He has no upper body strenght & small skinny legs, with skinny arms. In his sparring his
punches are like pitty pat and when he does get inside, He gets in to close end result......
He smothers his punches!! :cwm23: :furious:!!! He seems to forget everything that we have worked on and goes off into some bull---- Can,t seem to get him to slip/block punches!!!
What can i do besides PRAY???? Continue to post i,m feeling you :appl:
:mr-t:.....RIDE-0R- DIE..274
412 till we meet again.
ever thought of getting him to play darts?
:lolololol: Now wait a minute here, You might be on to something :DQuote:
Originally Posted by alex w
OK I've decided to take solitude here. I'll be writing part 2 soon
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thus you have provided word for word the amateur way to box, or as i would say, the failure to comprehend the fundamental most point of what it means to be boxer.
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to be a real boxer means to make your opponent throw the punches you want him to throw so that you may walk him into counterpunches! every thinkable aspect of the sport is firmly rooted from this! defense that isnt an extension of this is not truly defense whatsoever. and this is where you amatuer boxers and amateur trainers flunk as you start from a false premise that then leads you to your infamously false ways. you run and you point and you shy away from the punches of your opponent and consequently you violate what the whole sport was based on.
HAhaha I agree, you should start collecting sad clicks like I do,I sence some neck hairs going up over your post. ;)
There are many great trainers who have paved the way and learned from other trainers and continue to build knowledge a new etc, but unfortunately their are more who wont take on any new ideas at all and will anger even at the thought of maybe having to do it .
I can't stand seeing the same style of fighters come out of the same gyms and trainers either ,they do things backwards and steal the natural abiltiy of people away and shape a type of fighter they have in their own mind because they are old dogs who wont learn new tricks.
Thus the general population of the sport stagnates yet another generation and only fighters who can think out of the square themselves and reclaim their own natural abilites, stand out from the crowd and go forwards to the championship pro area.
In defence of purist or starr as she now wishes to be known she did state the word..'Basic' before shareing that ,.but I do see the trap your talking about being able to form under the wrong training.
Thats what seems to be forgoten some times though... ::** You have to master the basics first
Yeah exactly bro but you do see way too many pro fighters stuck with the basics but tough enough to be punching the balls off each other earning just a meager living for a small home crowds entertainment.
Its not a fair sport cause there is no real ladder to climb, no divisions to aim for if you get to the top of one etc,its who you know or where your from plus if you stand out frrom the other contenders ,so you can get stuck in a local rut and used up by assholes.
And thus you have ignored that I am stating the basics.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasTabin
I been working on this and I will let you know when I want to address counter punching but that isn't yet and it's not something that can be rushed into.
I'm not just gonna start talking about the jab and etc and then skip over everything into counter punching.
I haven't even gone over footwork yet to put you in position to throw counters or angles to where you can get good leverage from.
And this is a guide to DEFENSE!!! Stay on the subject ;) If I want to get to counter punching and etc I will. But I'm not just going to throw into it without the basics being covered first ;)
I was at a local gym and I saw a strange style that is either new or retarded...lol
It was more of a technique but this fighter was in a spar and kept an orthodox stance but leaned back to avoid jabs and straights. His elbows go up straight to his temple and he drops his right hand, elbow first and tries to injure the fighters wrist. From the sidelines, it seemed very easy to see coming and simple to counter but, isnt that always the case... :D
I wonder if anyone else has used this before. I could see myself using it once or twice but never anymore than that in a fight. Opinions?
I used to do that but without dropping the hand. With your hand by your temple just raise your elbow. One trainer told me off for doing that :-X better than getting hit wasn't it? :D
In terms of blocking, slipping, evading by footwork etc of course it's better to slip than block as you are unable to hit back but you need all those skills. Some times you will be caught off balance, off guard, under pressure & under fire, so you will have to block. Learn all your skills, drill, drill and drill again where you don't need to think.