Article about Floyd.. Good one.

Here is a good article. Is like an open letter to him.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-best-era-but/

OK I will say this Floyd is a great Talent but he is actually with the 147 guys but he fought Baldo, Judah, 140 champ HAtton @ 147, Mitchel :-\ and wet to fight Oscar at 154 but he entered at 149 or something. ok not bad but not that good either. When teh actual danger is with Cotto OR Williams I edge Cotto by the way jeje.

I could be you fan if you consider to fight this guys It won't matter if you win but to be brave enogh to take this fight or aleast one of them(Cotto) I will admire you. so how bout it. and please don't fight Oscar again I swear I wont pay a dime for it

I really hate how that article discredits the Hatton win, that was a great win for PBF regardless of size issues

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Originally Posted by Puya

Here is a good article. Is like an open letter to him.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-best-era-but/

OK I will say this Floyd is a great Talent but he is actually with the 147 guys but he fought Baldo, Judah, 140 champ HAtton @ 147, Mitchel :-\ and wet to fight Oscar at 154 but he entered at 149 or something. ok not bad but not that good either. When teh actual danger is with Cotto OR Williams I edge Cotto by the way jeje.

I could be you fan if you consider to fight this guys It won't matter if you win but to be brave enogh to take this fight or aleast one of them(Cotto) I will admire you. so how bout it. and please don't fight Oscar again I swear I wont pay a dime for it

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Not that bad ?? ODLH weighed almost 1 stone heavier than Mayweather i would say thats pretty damn impressive, and so was his victory over Hatton who was top 10 P4P fighter. Them two victories alone are better than anything Cotto has ever done.

Im going to quote the article.

Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Carnegie. Like them, you are a master capitalist. You’re also a pugilistic virtuoso, but on your current career path, we will remember you more for being a businessman than as someone who took care of bidness in the ring.


Is this a joke ?? Mayweather beat some of the best fighters at Super Featherweight and Lightweight and dominated them.

Genero Hernandez = Never been beaten at Super Featherweight
Angel Manfredy
Diego Corrales = Top 10 P4P fighter.
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou

Just to name a few he was impressive in all of these fights, he gave a mixture of boxing master class, plus brawling toe to toe and out slugging his opponent.

Allow me to blunt for a moment. Your victories over Oscar and Hatton impress on paper only. Your win over De La Hoya was akin to defeating the Spanish Armada in the 1600’s. Both big-time names. Both already depleted.

And your kayo of Ricky Hatton at 147 was an impressive display to be sure---if you’re into watching snakes devour mice.


Some of ODLH's best performances were at Light Middleweight Mosley 2, Vargas, Campas just to name a few, his fights vs Sturm and Hopkins were all at Middleweight, where he wasn't comfortable at that weight. But as i recall ODLH comeback and destroyed Mayorga in impressive fashion did he not ?? i also recall that ODLH was almost 1 stone heavier than Mayweather. And Mayweather accepted all of ODLH demands and still beat him and lets not forget Mayweather had never fought at Light Middleweight. Hatton was top 10 P4P fighter Mayweather KO him in impressive fashion what more do you want a 1st round demolition job ??


But until we see you sweat against a dangerous opponent, we (and you) will never know how great you truly are. At some point you’ve got to put your neck on the line if you want to be considered for boxing’s Mount Crushmore.

You must of missed his fights vs Castillo and Chavez then.

Sorry but this writer is just a cocky idiot.

To compare PBF to the some of the greatest capitalists' ever is a little bit of a stretch. Carnegie? come on. WOuld PBF spend money for a building for anyone but himself?

Besides being well written this isn't a good letter because the guy doesn't know what he is talking about... I am not saying Floyd should be compared to Robinson or Ali p4p with what he has done at welterweight, but I think if Oscar fights as much as he says he will this year people will realize that he is a far cry from "Depleted". As for Hatton I think he just can hang with the bigger guys at welterweight, but Floyd isn't a real welterweight in terms of size which makes Hatton's speed and pressure more difficult for Floyd than anything Margarito or Cintron could dish up because your power doesn't matter if you can't land.

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I really hate how that article discredits the Hatton win, that was a great win for PBF regardless of size issues

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"Like watching a snake devour a mouse" ??? I'd call that a pretty good description of the fight. I don't think it discredits Floyd at all. ;)

How is it like a snake and a mouse? Hatton is bigger, and was clearly stronger than Floyd that night? Did you see how when they got tangled up how easily he moved Mayweather around? It looked like what Cotto does to his opponents. Size was IMO in favor of Hatton, and he walks around much higher in weight than Mayweather and he started his career at a much higher weight.

Taeth, I wasn't thinking about size, rather I thought about the ease in which Mayweather handled Hatton. About as easy as a snake would handle a mouse. Size wasn't much of an issue, IMO, and one doesn't score points by pushing your opponent around. I can think of a few fighters that would give mayweather a tougher fight. This one was all about money.

I recently read an interview with Nacho Berestein. The trainer of the toughest and most macho Mexican fighters had this to say about one of his young fighters: "The best fight for him? The best fight is the one for the most money. The best fight is always the one for the most money."

Its always about the money. In your prime you have to make the most money. We'd all love to see Cotto-Mayweather, but the De la hoya fight makes a lot more money right now. Maybe next year a Cotto-Mayweather fight will make the most money. My guess is if Cotto is still unbeaten it will be the biggest money fight out there.

Floyd has earned the right to choose the biggest fights, like it or not he has earned the right to fight Oscar for the most money while the 147 lb division sorts itself out and he can fight who ever is left standing for the most money possible.

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How is it like a snake and a mouse? Hatton is bigger, and was clearly stronger than Floyd that night? Did you see how when they got tangled up how easily he moved Mayweather around? It looked like what Cotto does to his opponents. Size was IMO in favor of Hatton, and he walks around much higher in weight than Mayweather and he started his career at a much higher weight.

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I record all major fights and I could have sworn that in the corner in between one of the rounds, Hatton's cornerman said to Hatton that Mayweather was stronger than Hatton. I couldn't understand too much because the British accent is not one that I am not familiar with. Perhaps one of you here who recorded the fight can listen in between rounds and confirm this for me (or not).

Regardless of what his corner man said.. it was pretty obvious to me at least that Hatton was stronger than Mayweather in that fight, and I can't think of many fighters who would give Mayweather an overall much harder fight than Hatton. Cotto IMO could give Mayweather a harder time, but I have a feeling his slowness of foot would cause him a whole heap of problems against Mayweather. Also I feel that Mosley isn't good enough at a distance to truly challenge Mayweather who thinks faster than him, is faster, and better technically. I think however that Paul Williams is Mayweather's biggest challenge, but that fight isn't happening.

I don't really see a threat to Floyd at the moment. Maybe maaaaaaaaaaaaybe Paul Williams but I would like to see him polished a bit more. Have more exposure.

Another shitty article written by a man who obviously hasn't got a clue about what it means to be a professional fighter and to succesfully manage a career.

When a writer 'urges' Floyd to fight a 'flash in the pan famous for 5 minutes star' like Kermit Cintron and Paul Williams my eyes just glaze over and I cease to take seriously anything he later says.

It really pisses me off how so many boxing fans have no sense of perspective and get all upset when there fighter doesn't take what they consider to be his legacy defining fight i his very next fight.

So Floyd hasn't fought Cotto yet? So what, he will do soon enough.

Is there anyone who seriously doubts that the Mayweather Cotto fight will ever take place?

Of course it will take place, Floyd is just waiting for Cotto to prove himself and build his name to the point where such a fight will be the biggest money maker it can be. When that moment reaches fruition the fight will take place, it's a virtual boxing certainty.

It strikes me that these....I call them fucktards......would make terrible gardeners. They would stick their seeds in the ground on a Monday and by the weekend they would be digging them up and replacing them with new seeds because they felt the others wern't growing and were obviously defective ::**

I just thank God that these kind of people arn't in any position of power so that their completely illogical short term bias doesn't fuck up any developmental processes.

Can you imagine them building a house? 'Why are you building a hole in the ground the building is suppposed to go UP! Stop building this stupid foundation and start laying the walls now!'

As I said above........fucktards ::**

It would make sense to wait a little and have Cotto build up some excitement...just like Baldomir did and later got schooled by Floyd for an easy one-sided domination landing punches from all angles, avoiding punches, etc. vs a slower guy. That's a fight I would NOT pay for. I would just end up upset to see Floyd win once again aginst a guy that has a recognizable name. We have a better chance of seeing Floyd loose if he joins the MMA which I hope he does.

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It would make sense to wait a little and have Cotto build up some excitement...just like Baldomir did and later got schooled by Floyd for an easy one-sided domination landing punches from all angles, avoiding punches, etc. vs a slower guy. That's a fight I would NOT pay for. I would just end up upset to see Floyd win once again aginst a guy that has a recognizable name. We have a better chance of seeing Floyd loose if he joins the MMA which I hope he does.

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Cotto has more excitement than Floyd in 2 years.

This is crazy This is for Boxing fans not for managers wanna be!!!

I keep on wondering why people keep on bringing up 154 pounders as potential opposition for Mayweather, why should he go up there again? Karmazin, Forrest, Quartey would add nothing to his credibility... if he loses to them there are excuses, and if he beats them there are excuses. The only person who would be worthy is Spinks, and even he isn't a very big name, and that fight wouldn't be exciting. Mayweather would walk Spinks down and eventually KO him. The only fights that should be considered are against Dela Hoya, Cotto, and MOsley. Williams is too green and too potentially dangerous for this fight to happen right now, what Williams needs to do is fight a big name and get people really talknig about him.

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I keep on wondering why people keep on bringing up 154 pounders as potential opposition for Mayweather, why should he go up there again? Karmazin, Forrest, Quartey would add nothing to his credibility... if he loses to them there are excuses, and if he beats them there are excuses. The only person who would be worthy is Spinks, and even he isn't a very big name, and that fight wouldn't be exciting. Mayweather would walk Spinks down and eventually KO him. The only fights that should be considered are against Dela Hoya, Cotto, and MOsley. Williams is too green and too potentially dangerous for this fight to happen right now, what Williams needs to do is fight a big name and get people really talknig about him.

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First Cotto please!!

Del Hoya I wish just wish that fight can't sell a dime to bad the casual fans are a bunch of morons and infact they are the majority.

I still see Oscar as a valid opponent. Due to poor scoring the fight is considered close by the media(the ring had it 115-114 or something and the judges scored a SD). However this fight is good for Floyd because Oscar possesses a lot of similar attributes that Cotto has as well. They both are converted southpaw or at least dominant lefties, they both throw great left hooks and jabs and they both have good handspeed. I feel that Cotto's determination to land punches will actually hurt him in this fight because Mayweahter is still way faster than him, and he is the master of countering an opponent and getting out of the way of their retaliation. Another thing is that Mayweather can handle body shots from the best of them, Oscar doesn't go to the body normally a whole lot, but he has always landed heavy down there he wanted to and he landed mostly to the body against Mayweather he didn't ever hurt Mayweather with his body shots, just like Castillo who is another great body puncher couldn't truly get to Floyd with body shots. Also Mosley did his best when he used movement those few rounds around 8 or 9 and he was able to counter effectively, and Cotto wasn't able to sink into his punches. Mayweather moves way better than Mosley, and Cotto will have to keep on reseting himself while getting counter punched and I see Mayweather having enough power to hurt Cotto.

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It would make sense to wait a little and have Cotto build up some excitement...just like Baldomir did and later got schooled by Floyd for an easy one-sided domination landing punches from all angles, avoiding punches, etc. vs a slower guy. That's a fight I would NOT pay for. I would just end up upset to see Floyd win once again aginst a guy that has a recognizable name. We have a better chance of seeing Floyd loose if he joins the MMA which I hope he does.

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Cotto has more excitement than Floyd in 2 years.

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I agree. Cotto or any other slow one-dimensional fighter out there might have given us more exciting fights. Still, can't see Cotto winning a round against Mayweather as much as I want that to happen.

I think people saying Cotto is a slow-one dimensional fighter is very far from the truth. The more I watch him the more I realize he can do almost everything in boxing very well. He fights off his back foot, countering very, very well, and going forward he is very effective with good timing and the best body attack in the sport. Now I can see how people think that Cotto is slow, but its only his movement that is slow, his reaction speed is very good, he has very quick hands, and he fights very fast in his head. However the problem I see him having against Mayweather is that Mayweather does this at a higher level than anyone I've ever seen except RJJ. PBF doesn't tire, he retains his quickness throughout the hold fight, he gets good power of his back foot, and he is nearly impossible to hit cleanly. Its not that Cotto is one dimensional or slow that I believe he loses, in this case its Floyd's greatness, and not his shortcommings that make impossible for me to see him winning.

But untill they fight we will never be certain of it. do we?

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I think people saying Cotto is a slow-one dimensional fighter is very far from the truth. The more I watch him the more I realize he can do almost everything in boxing very well. He fights off his back foot, countering very, very well, and going forward he is very effective with good timing and the best body attack in the sport. Now I can see how people think that Cotto is slow, but its only his movement that is slow, his reaction speed is very good, he has very quick hands, and he fights very fast in his head. However the problem I see him having against Mayweather is that Mayweather does this at a higher level than anyone I've ever seen except RJJ. PBF doesn't tire, he retains his quickness throughout the hold fight, he gets good power of his back foot, and he is nearly impossible to hit cleanly. Its not that Cotto is one dimensional or slow that I believe he loses, in this case its Floyd's greatness, and not his shortcommings that make impossible for me to see him winning.

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Good point Taeth. Haven't seen Floyd exhausted yet. So far, the only ones that I have seen giving Floyd a challenge is Jose Luis Castillo 1 and ODLH. Regardless of what outcome I foresee of Cotto vs Mayweather, I'll be rooting for Cotto.

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I think people saying Cotto is a slow-one dimensional fighter is very far from the truth. The more I watch him the more I realize he can do almost everything in boxing very well. He fights off his back foot, countering very, very well, and going forward he is very effective with good timing and the best body attack in the sport. Now I can see how people think that Cotto is slow, but its only his movement that is slow, his reaction speed is very good, he has very quick hands, and he fights very fast in his head. However the problem I see him having against Mayweather is that Mayweather does this at a higher level than anyone I've ever seen except RJJ. PBF doesn't tire, he retains his quickness throughout the hold fight, he gets good power of his back foot, and he is nearly impossible to hit cleanly. Its not that Cotto is one dimensional or slow that I believe he loses, in this case its Floyd's greatness, and not his shortcommings that make impossible for me to see him winning.

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Good point Taeth. Haven't seen Floyd exhausted yet. So far, the only ones that I have seen giving Floyd a challenge is Jose Luis Castillo 1 and ODLH. Regardless of what outcome I foresee of Cotto vs Mayweather, I'll be rooting for Cotto.

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Jesus Chavez gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights as well you should check that out.

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Here is a good article. Is like an open letter to him.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-best-era-but/

OK I will say this Floyd is a great Talent but he is actually with the 147 guys but he fought Baldo, Judah, 140 champ HAtton @ 147, Mitchel :-\ and wet to fight Oscar at 154 but he entered at 149 or something. ok not bad but not that good either. When teh actual danger is with Cotto OR Williams I edge Cotto by the way jeje.

I could be you fan if you consider to fight this guys It won't matter if you win but to be brave enogh to take this fight or aleast one of them(Cotto) I will admire you. so how bout it. and please don't fight Oscar again I swear I wont pay a dime for it

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;D Hi Puya , te la comistes mi Pana, im agree with you and was great :coolclick: you see im really want ,that all COTTO haters read that articule...... Is like i told my friends, Mayweather is a good fighter no doubt of that , but he have to demostrate it in 147 pnd.with all CHAMPS ::** everybody know that he fear lose a fight with COTTO that is his a BIG FEAR :lolololol: :goodpost:

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Originally Posted by Puya

Here is a good article. Is like an open letter to him.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-best-era-but/

OK I will say this Floyd is a great Talent but he is actually with the 147 guys but he fought Baldo, Judah, 140 champ HAtton @ 147, Mitchel :-\ and wet to fight Oscar at 154 but he entered at 149 or something. ok not bad but not that good either. When teh actual danger is with Cotto OR Williams I edge Cotto by the way jeje.

I could be you fan if you consider to fight this guys It won't matter if you win but to be brave enogh to take this fight or aleast one of them(Cotto) I will admire you. so how bout it. and please don't fight Oscar again I swear I wont pay a dime for it

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;D Hi Puya , te la comistes mi Pana, im agree with you and was great :coolclick: you see im really want ,that all COTTO haters read that articule...... Is like i told my friends, Mayweather is a good fighter no doubt of that , but he have to demostrate it in 147 pnd.with all CHAMPS ::** everybody know that he fear lose a fight with COTTO that is his a BIG FEAR :lolololol: :goodpost:

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I thought the article was garbage im Cotto fan and Mayweather fan, it seems like that guy has only been following boxing for about 2 years.

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Originally Posted by Puya

Here is a good article. Is like an open letter to him.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-best-era-but/

OK I will say this Floyd is a great Talent but he is actually with the 147 guys but he fought Baldo, Judah, 140 champ HAtton @ 147, Mitchel :-\ and wet to fight Oscar at 154 but he entered at 149 or something. ok not bad but not that good either. When teh actual danger is with Cotto OR Williams I edge Cotto by the way jeje.

I could be you fan if you consider to fight this guys It won't matter if you win but to be brave enogh to take this fight or aleast one of them(Cotto) I will admire you. so how bout it. and please don't fight Oscar again I swear I wont pay a dime for it

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;D Hi Puya , te la comistes mi Pana, im agree with you and was great :coolclick: you see im really want ,that all COTTO haters read that articule...... Is like i told my friends, Mayweather is a good fighter no doubt of that , but he have to demostrate it in 147 pnd.with all CHAMPS ::** everybody know that he fear lose a fight with COTTO that is his a BIG FEAR :lolololol: :goodpost:

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I thought the article was garbage im Cotto fan and Mayweather fan, it seems like that guy has only been following boxing for about 2 years.

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8) If you refere to Cotto , sure : he made an announce ,that he just going fight 2 or 3 more years..... this is an intelligent desition......make a few big fight and then enjoy it all with good health ;D..........