Isn't it interesting about Junior Witter...........

That before Hatton faced Floyd everyone was saying Hatton would smash Witter bla bla and when he gets beat everyone's on Ricky's back like fly's on shite telling him to fight Witter and people are even saying Witter could beat Hatton :laugh: what a stupid statement.

I remember a poll that had who would win Hatton or Witter and I'm pretty damm sure the majority said Hatton and now everyone is saying Witter ??? WTF nothing has changed and Ricky will be back better and face Paulie in NYC late 08 moving to Witter early 09 when he has made a name for himself instead of fighting Vivian Harris and N'dou ::**

But what's with all the talk of Hatton ducking Witter just beacause he won't fight him in his next fight ?? He said it could happen someday.

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That before Hatton faced Floyd everyone was saying Hatton would smash Witter bla bla and when he gets beat everyone's on Ricky's back like fly's on shite telling him to fight Witter and people are even saying Witter could beat Hatton :laugh: what a stupid statement.

I remember a poll that had who would win Hatton or Witter and I'm pretty damm sure the majority said Hatton and now everyone is saying Witter ??? WTF nothing has changed and Ricky will be back better and face Paulie in NYC late 08 moving to Witter early 09 when he has made a name for himself instead of fighting Vivian Harris and N'dou ::**

But what's with all the talk of Hatton ducking Witter just beacause he won't fight him in his next fight ?? He said it could happen someday.

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It would be interesting to see what people think about this fight .

Can you turn this into a poll leftylee and see who people think will win ?

I like both guys but at this stage if I had to lean 1 way Id go with Witter cuz I think he wanst the fight and Hatton doesnt . Says alot .

Okay I turned it into a poll. ;D

Im not sure if everyone is saying Witter but i know plenty of fans think its a necessary fight to make now.

Ive seen signs that Hatton isnt a tough guy. He's brave but im not so sure he's a tough nut. I think he could get KTFO.

Yea maybe ricky should be cut some slack....but he needs more of a reason not to fight him besides i don't like him. Someone gave rick his big shot so give witter his. Not liking someone isn't a reason to rob the fans of a possible great fight. But who knows what the real deal is. I probably way off base, this is just what i've gathered from what little i've heard of the whole situation.

I always thought Witter would win but a lot of other people changed their opinion after the Floyd fight because a lot of Hatton's flws were exposed.

I mean Hattons a great inside fighter but he doesn't take it as well on the inside as he gives it.

At this moment? At this moment Hatton is fat and probably drunk but given a few weeks to prepare Ricky pisses all over him.
I really like Witter too and cant blame him for chasing this fight but hes a league below Hatton.

Ive gone for Witter but ive backed Witter to beat Hatton since 2000 when Witter first wanted this fight.

I want Hatton to unify the division.

I wanted Hatton to forget Mayweather, unfiy the division first. Then worry about beating the rest. I think Hatton got to greedy.

I back Hatton. i believe he has the tools at this weight, he's not big enough to fight at welter.

Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

That before Hatton faced Floyd everyone was saying Hatton would smash Witter bla bla and when he gets beat everyone's on Ricky's back like fly's on shite telling him to fight Witter and people are even saying Witter could beat Hatton :laugh: what a stupid statement.

I remember a poll that had who would win Hatton or Witter and I'm pretty damm sure the majority said Hatton and now everyone is saying Witter ??? WTF nothing has changed and Ricky will be back better and face Paulie in NYC late 08 moving to Witter early 09 when he has made a name for himself instead of fighting Vivian Harris and N'dou ::**

But what's with all the talk of Hatton ducking Witter just beacause he won't fight him in his next fight ?? He said it could happen someday.

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Something has changed. Ricky got knocked the fuck out. And ever since than he's been crying like a bitch about how he's having a hard time getting over it. You combine that with the lame excuses he's been giving for not facing Witter and it's obvious he's not the warrior he was made out to be.

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Hatton beat Urango 120 to 108 on all the score cards. Urango's a good fighter, not a struggle.

There aint no 5 foot 6 amazing Welterweight in my world. Maybe in yours.

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Hatton beat Urango 120 to 108 on all the score cards. Urango's a good fighter, not a struggle.

There aint no 5 foot 6 amazing Welterweight in my world. Maybe in yours.

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Yes he was clearly ahead on scoring but he was holding a hell of alot down the stetch vs Urango and Cotto is only 5ft 7inch and Mayweather only 5ft 8inch and he has been upto 154lbs Former undisputed welterweight champ Zab Judah 5ft 7 an half inch also Henry Armstrong 5ft 5 an half inch,Pernell Whitaker 5ft 6inch

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Exactly, it was agreed before the Mayweather fight that weight would not be an excuse but as soon as he gets KTFO here we are again talking about how he was too small. The fucking guy enters the ring fight night at 152 when he's a light welter for fuck sakes.

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Exactly, it was agreed before the Mayweather fight that weight would not be an excuse but as soon as he gets KTFO here we are again talking about how he was too small. The F****** guy enters the ring fight night at 152 when he's a light welter for F*** sakes.

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And i bet Hatton walks around at about 13stone to 13stone 7lbs thats about 1stone 7lbs to 2stone heavier than most welter's walk round at i think the bottom line is Hatton just ain't that good he should have lost to Collazo aswell.

wow, 13-2 in favor of Witter. Seems people lost confidence in hatton.

The results of the post so far are surprising. I don't see how anyone can pick Witter over Hatton with any confidence at all. It's easy to dismiss a fighter when he has just lost, and more sadly it is the safe option. I'm repeating myself, as I've said this on another thread, but Hatton will surprise those who have written him off.

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wow, 13-2 in favor of Witter. Seems people lost confidence in hatton.

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Never had any

Gave my vote to Hatton he can still dominate the light welter division IMO. I'm pissed at Hatton for all his excuses for Witter but if he takes the fight albeit dangerous one I be hard pressed to vote against Ricky.

But can't count out Witter.His style seems suited to just drop bombs on Hatton on his way in.As long as Ricky gets back to how he was,head movement and "intelligent pressure" rather than just jumping in chin hanging out to dry and Holding, he is almost predictable these days.

There is alot of criticism for hatton in his past couple of fights for the way he fought and faded in a few fights. Is his lifestyle catching up to him?

I think Hatton should be judged on whether he has ducked Witter when he retires. i too desperately want to see this fight but I see things happening like this.

In May Hatton has a tune up, later this year he fights Paulie in MSG then say Feb 2009 he fights on the same card as Witter, maybe in the US then takes on Witter at the City of Manchester stadium in 2009.

I do not think Hatton is ducking Witter. Witter will continue to raise his profile in the US. He will beat Hopkins then take another fight against a decent american or a name (Torres) before taking on Hatton. A lot more people will have heard of Witter and the fight will be a lot bigger. More £s for them both.

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Exactly, it was agreed before the Mayweather fight that weight would not be an excuse but as soon as he gets KTFO here we are again talking about how he was too small. The F****** guy enters the ring fight night at 152 when he's a light welter for F*** sakes.

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And i bet Hatton walks around at about 13stone to 13stone 7lbs thats about 1stone 7lbs to 2stone heavier than most welter's walk round at i think the bottom line is Hatton just ain't that good he should have lost to Collazo aswell.

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Nah thats like saying Floyd struggled at lightweight cuz he had a tough fight with Castillo or struggled at 154 cuz he had a close fight with Oscar. You get tough nuts in every weight class and Urango was a hard 1 to crack . Floyd was just too good for him and Ricky could do nothing aout it .

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Hatton beat Urango 120 to 108 on all the score cards. Urango's a good fighter, not a struggle.

There aint no 5 foot 6 amazing Welterweight in my world. Maybe in yours.

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Yes he was clearly ahead on scoring but he was holding a hell of alot down the stetch vs Urango and Cotto is only 5ft 7inch and Mayweather only 5ft 8inch and he has been upto 154lbs Former undisputed welterweight champ Zab Judah 5ft 7 an half inch also Henry Armstrong 5ft 5 an half inch,Pernell Whitaker 5ft 6inch

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There's no point being a hero once you've won the fight already.
Holding stopping the guy from fighting shows a mentality of a great fighter. Perhaps not to the fans.

No offence to the Americans and 5'5 1/2 Henry Armstrong, but the rest of the world was at war when he became welter weight champ.
Sorry but that doesn't really count IMO.

I stated his height and he's shorter, than 99% of welter weights.
If i state his reach it's shorter than 99% of welter weights.

In fact Hatton is smaller than Kostya Tszyu who never fought over 140. Says it all really.

Tale of the tape shows that Hatton is to small for welterweight. But obvioulsy you've made up your own mind. ;)
You Hatton hater. LOL

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Im not buying into the Hatton not big enough at Welterweight he struggled with Collazo Welterweight then went back to light welterweight and struggled with Urango.

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Hatton beat Urango 120 to 108 on all the score cards. Urango's a good fighter, not a struggle.

There aint no 5 foot 6 amazing Welterweight in my world. Maybe in yours.

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Yes he was clearly ahead on scoring but he was holding a hell of alot down the stetch vs Urango and Cotto is only 5ft 7inch and Mayweather only 5ft 8inch and he has been upto 154lbs Former undisputed welterweight champ Zab Judah 5ft 7 an half inch also Henry Armstrong 5ft 5 an half inch,Pernell Whitaker 5ft 6inch

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There's no point being a hero once you've won the fight already.
Holding stopping the guy from fighting shows a mentality of a great fighter. Perhaps not to the fans.

No offence to the Americans and 5'5 1/2 Henry Armstrong, but the rest of the world was at war when he became welter weight champ.
Sorry but that doesn't really count IMO.

I stated his height and he's shorter, than 99% of welter weights.
If i state his reach it's shorter than 99% of welter weights.

In fact Hatton is smaller than Kostya Tszyu who never fought over 140. Says it all really.

Tale of the tape shows that Hatton is to small for welterweight. But obvioulsy you've made up your own mind. ;)
You Hatton hater. LOL

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What about Pernell Whitaker then 5ft 6inch??? he was world champ at lightweight,light welterweight,welterweight and light middleweight all at 5ft 6inch your just making excuses for Hatton.

Not making excuses pointing out that he's clearly smaller. Hatton has also been champion at welterweight. Pernell Whitaker was a south paw and had a long reach.

I like Hatton and Hate Witter , thats a fact.
I have a friend who has watched every Hatton fight at home and abroad and at the time Hatton was about to fight Kostya , i said to him i thought Witter would just be totally the wrong style for Hatton.
and i stick by this , i think my money would be on Witter , even tho id love Ricky to knock Witter out.

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I like Hatton and Hate Witter , thats a fact.
I have a friend who has watched every Hatton fight at home and abroad and at the time Hatton was about to fight Kostya , i said to him i thought Witter would just be totally the wrong style for Hatton.
and i stick by this , i think my money would be on Witter , even tho id love Ricky to knock Witter out.

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Hey Dark Lord Al hope your ok.

What do you think about Witter's style that Ricky would find difficult ??.

The reason I think Witter would be such a nightmare for Ricky is cuz look at the boxers who Hatton struggled with - Magee , Colazzo and Floyd . Two were southpaws like Witter . All of them were counterpunchers like Witter . They were all pretty quick and have good chins like Witter. One difference though is Witter bangs much harder than all of them .

Ricky said if Floyd trades with me he'll get eaten . We saw what happend and if he thinks Floyd packs a punch wait till he tastes Witters power .