P4P Best punchers All time

I have not seen this in a while so I felt we should do it again.

And when I say punchers I mean guys who really knew how to get the most out of their punching power and knew how to put their punches together and finish you when they had you hurt. Not cecesarily the hardest one punch hitters.

I'm terrible at making lists (did this mostly to get your opinions) but I'll give it a try. With no particular order.

Julian Jackson
Mike Tyson
Wilfredo Gomez
Thomas Hearns
Ray Robbinson
George Foreman
Alexis Arguello
Joe Louis
Jack Dempsey
Gerald McLellan

Honor mention: Carlos Zerate, Felix Trinidad, Lennox Lewis amng others

I know I'm missing some of the older guys but if I have not even seen a higlight of them I won't post them.

.....Rocky Marciano is not on your list?!?!?!

Shavers, Dempsey, Zarate, Tyson, Hearns, Duran, Pacquaio down under 120. WW Robinson, Foreman, WW Robinson, Middleweight Roy Jones Jr., Julain Jackson, Gerald McClellan, Nigel Benn, Joe Louis there are a lot more, but Zarate in particular is probably the hardest puncher p4p the sport has ever seen.

Guys like marciano weren't the biggest ko type fighters, he wore out a lot guys over several rounds. He was a harder p4p puncher than Cotto, but it was the same idea.

Heavyweight = Earnie Shavers
Cruiserweight = Rocky Marciano
Light Heavyweight = Bob Foster
Super Middleweight = Nigel Benn
Middleweight = Julian Jackson
Jr Middleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Thomas Hearns
Jr Welterweight = Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight = Roberto Duran
Super Featherweight = Alexis Arguello
Featherweight = Sandy Saddler
Super Bantamweight = Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight = Carlos Zarate
Super Flyweight = Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight = Jimmy Wilde
Light Flyweight = Humberto Gonzalez
Minimumweight = Ricardo Lopez

CC Damn you are good ICB.

Didnt we just do this ?

Lets name the biggest never mentioned 10 times already second tier Guys.... Terrance Lewis,All out free swinging heavyweight bomber with a so-so chin and could hurt any one he nailed cleanly. ONLY guy that I ever saw actually drop Marion "Head of titanium" Wilson.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins

Didnt we just do this ?

Lets name the biggest never mentioned 10 times already second tier Guys.... Terrance Lewis,All out free swinging heavyweight bomber with a so-so chin and could hurt any one he nailed cleanly. ONLY guy that I ever saw actually drop Marion "Head of titanium" Wilson.

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2nd tier bombers ?? then we have to mention Mac Foster he had 100 percent KO record at Heavyweight.

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CC Damn you are good ICB.

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Cheers bro CC back.

How about worst most feather fisted?
HW John Ruiz
CW Ralf Rocchigiani
LHW Loughran
SMW Sven Ottke
MW Benvenuti
JMW Cory Spinks
WW Collazo
JWW Malignaggi
LW Juan Diaz

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Shavers
Jackson
Robinson
Greb
Marciano
Hearns
Pavlik
Tyson
Baer
Gomez

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Originally Posted by southakron314

Shavers
Jackson
Robinson
Greb
Marciano
Hearns
Pavlik
Tyson
Baer
Gomez

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Greb wasn't a big puncher he only had 48 KO's out of like 260 wins, Greb was a volume puncher not a devastating puncher.

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Originally Posted by eagle

How about worst most feather fisted?
HW John Ruiz
CW Ralf Rocchigiani
LHW Loughran
SMW Sven Ottke
MW Benvenuti
JMW Cory Spinks
WW Collazo
JWW Malignaggi
LW Juan Diaz

;D

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I like this topic better :coolclick: let me add guzman for FW. ;D

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Originally Posted by eagle

How about worst most feather fisted?
HW John Ruiz
CW Ralf Rocchigiani
LHW Loughran
SMW Sven Ottke
MW Benvenuti
JMW Cory Spinks
WW Collazo
JWW Malignaggi
LW Juan Diaz

;D

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I like this topic better :coolclick: let me add guzman for FW. ;D

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Guzman has 8 first round KO's!

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Originally Posted by eagle

How about worst most feather fisted?
HW John Ruiz
CW Ralf Rocchigiani
LHW Loughran
SMW Sven Ottke
MW Benvenuti
JMW Cory Spinks
WW Collazo
JWW Malignaggi
LW Juan Diaz

;D

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I like this topic better :coolclick: let me add guzman for FW. ;D

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Guzman has 8 first round KO's!

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yea the last one was like 5 years ago against a guy that had 5 lost and 6 wins or something like that. His punches are not any harder then juans.

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Originally Posted by eagle

How about worst most feather fisted?
HW John Ruiz
CW Ralf Rocchigiani
LHW Loughran
SMW Sven Ottke
MW Benvenuti
JMW Cory Spinks
WW Collazo
JWW Malignaggi
LW Juan Diaz

;D

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I like this topic better :coolclick: let me add guzman for FW. ;D

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Guzman has 8 first round KO's!

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yea the last one was like 5 years ago against a guy that had 5 lost and 6 wins or something like that. His punches are not any harder then juans.

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But Juan is big for his division whilst Guzman is small at 130.

All the guys mentioned above are good choices, but I think the undisputed #1 P4P best puncher of all time has to be Julian Jackson. That guy has sick, sick power.

How In the hell do we have a P4P Puncher list without Archie Moore ???

ICB has a pretty much on point list.....As far as HW with Shavers goes IMO Shavers may be the hardest hitter P4P period...

BTW CC Ice for having Marciano at CW

Vitali with his 35 wins 34 kos can't be overlooked.

Surprised Naz has been over-looked to be honest.

He'd be up there on my list somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

ICB has a pretty much on point list.....As far as HW with Shavers goes IMO Shavers may be the hardest hitter P4P period...

BTW CC Ice for having Marciano at CW

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Thanks CC back.

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.....Rocky Marciano is not on your list?!?!?!

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Damn, I knew I forgot someone

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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing

Heavyweight = Earnie Shavers
Cruiserweight = Rocky Marciano
Light Heavyweight = Bob Foster
Super Middleweight = Nigel Benn
Middleweight = Julian Jackson
Jr Middleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Thomas Hearns
Jr Welterweight = Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight = Roberto Duran
Super Featherweight = Alexis Arguello
Featherweight = Sandy Saddler
Super Bantamweight = Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight = Carlos Zarate
Super Flyweight = Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight = Jimmy Wilde
Light Flyweight = Humberto Gonzalez
Minimumweight = Ricardo Lopez

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You just copy pasted that of another thread.... yeah I know it was yours anyway but that's not the point...

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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins

Didnt we just do this ?

Lets name the biggest never mentioned 10 times already second tier Guys.... Terrance Lewis,All out free swinging heavyweight bomber with a so-so chin and could hurt any one he nailed cleanly. ONLY guy that I ever saw actually drop Marion "Head of titanium" Wilson.

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No, this is my list. Those were sombody elses, not the same see.

Anyway I was trying to concentrate more on guys who were really great at putting punches together to devastating effect. And on great finishers. Not just raw power punchers like the other threads.

Round of CCs to all. Thanks for your input and the jokes as well ;D

AND WHY THE HELL DOES THIS THING ERASE MY POST EVERY TIME I PUT IN A HAPPY FACE. I'M GETTING TIERED OF REWRITING.... >:mad

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Heavyweight = Earnie Shavers
Cruiserweight = Rocky Marciano
Light Heavyweight = Bob Foster
Super Middleweight = Nigel Benn
Middleweight = Julian Jackson
Jr Middleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Thomas Hearns
Jr Welterweight = Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight = Roberto Duran
Super Featherweight = Alexis Arguello
Featherweight = Sandy Saddler
Super Bantamweight = Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight = Carlos Zarate
Super Flyweight = Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight = Jimmy Wilde
Light Flyweight = Humberto Gonzalez
Minimumweight = Ricardo Lopez

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You just copy pasted that of another thread.... yeah I know it was yours anyway but that's not the point...

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No i didn't i typed it out because i remember what i put, plus i changed a few of the names on the list as well like Tszyu for Jr Welterweight.

Who has the most KO's ever? Archie Moore isn't it?...have to give a guy who knocked out over 100 people the best puncher title.Funny fact Archie's the only guy who fought Marciano AND Ali...didn't make it easy for himself did he lol

Bqack to talking about power.
Naturally Julian Jackson is on damn near everybodies list.
Gerald McClellan deserves a mention.
p4p well you can't ignore Thomas Hearns at welter.
Jimmy Wilde, always to be remebered.
[b]Alexis Arguello and Kostya Tszyu.
Carlos Monzon was pretty destructive although perhaps not in one punch.

??? Why the hell didn't i think about Jimmy Wilde thats a good call 99 KO's at his weight.

He was a great little boxer, watching him was like watching a violent ballet whilst holding fast forward!!!

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Heavyweight = Earnie Shavers
Cruiserweight = Rocky Marciano
Light Heavyweight = Bob Foster
Super Middleweight = Nigel Benn
Middleweight = Julian Jackson
Jr Middleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Thomas Hearns
Jr Welterweight = Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight = Roberto Duran
Super Featherweight = Alexis Arguello
Featherweight = Sandy Saddler
Super Bantamweight = Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight = Carlos Zarate
Super Flyweight = Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight = Jimmy Wilde
Light Flyweight = Humberto Gonzalez
Minimumweight = Ricardo Lopez

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You just copy pasted that of another thread.... yeah I know it was yours anyway but that's not the point...

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No i didn't i typed it out because i remember what i put, plus i changed a few of the names on the list as well like Tszyu for Jr Welterweight.

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Nobody likes a smart a** >:mad ;D Just kidding

Duran was never a devastating puncher, even as a lightweight. He had very good power, in all his shots, but even at 135 he wore guys down. He retained his power throughout the 15 rounds which was remarkable, but he should never be included in such a list. Nigel Benn's inclusion at super middle is myopic to say the least. Benn didn't carry his firepower up to SM and his records reveals everything you need to know. Even as a middle weight, in true world class company, he wasn't nearly as devastating as say Jackson or Mcellen. Not even in the same ballpark.

Hearns hit harder than Norris did at JR middle, no question. And the gold toothed swaggering Mexican Oliveres is a must inclusion.

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Originally Posted by Terry Nutkins

Duran was never a devastating puncher, even as a lightweight. He had very good power, in all his shots, but even at 135 he wore guys down. He retained his power throughout the 15 rounds which was remarkable, but he should never be included in such a list. Nigel Benn's inclusion at super middle is myopic to say the least. Benn didn't carry his firepower up to SM and his records reveals everything you need to know. Even as a middle weight, in true world class company, he wasn't nearly as devastating as say Jackson or Mcellen. Not even in the same ballpark.

Hearns hit harder than Norris did at JR middle, no question. And the gold toothed swaggering Mexican Oliveres is a must inclusion.

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Duran knocked out guys over 30 pounds above where he started, he's included. He also made Leonard forget about 4 rounds of their first fight with one left hook, Hearns wasn't ever able to do anything like that. Also about Nigel Benn watch him against McClellan again, he was easily hitting as hard as Gerald.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

All the guys mentioned above are good choices, but I think the undisputed #1 P4P best puncher of all time has to be Julian Jackson. That guy has sick, sick power.

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Tyson and then Jackson for me, Jackson was devastating, could you have imagined a Trinidad Vs Jackson fight, remember the destruction of Norris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Id6-oOY1U

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Originally Posted by Terry Nutkins

Duran was never a devastating puncher, even as a lightweight. He had very good power, in all his shots, but even at 135 he wore guys down. He retained his power throughout the 15 rounds which was remarkable, but he should never be included in such a list. Nigel Benn's inclusion at super middle is myopic to say the least. Benn didn't carry his firepower up to SM and his records reveals everything you need to know. Even as a middle weight, in true world class company, he wasn't nearly as devastating as say Jackson or Mcellen. Not even in the same ballpark.

Hearns hit harder than Norris did at JR middle, no question. And the gold toothed swaggering Mexican Oliveres is a must inclusion.

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Benn was still a very devastating puncher at Super Middleweight his power didn't change that much, if Benn isn't in your *list* then who else should be at Super Middleweight then ?? Jackson never fought at Super Middleweight, McClellan only fought once at Super Middleweight vs Benn and he lost so you cannot rate him at Super Middleweight, And as for Benn's power he did KO Barkley, Dewitt who went 12 rounds with Hearns, and he also was the only boxer to ever stop Robbie Sims as well.

I already included Hearns at Welterweight i don't put 2 of the same boxers in my lists, thats why i put Norris at Jr Middleweight otherwise i would of put Jackson twice at Jr Middleweight and Middleweight. And Olivares almost made my list but IMO Zarate is one of the best KO artists of all time so he for certain deserves to be there IMO.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Bqack to talking about power.
Naturally Julian Jackson is on damn near everybodies list.
Gerald McClellan deserves a mention.
p4p well you can't ignore Thomas Hearns at welter.
Jimmy Wilde, always to be remebered.
[b]Alexis Arguello and Kostya Tszyu.
Carlos Monzon was pretty destructive although perhaps not in one punch.

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Wilde ....nice one CC at you donny. I like that. Throwing in some old school guys.

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Originally Posted by southakron314

Shavers
Jackson
Robinson
Greb
Marciano
Hearns
Pavlik
Tyson
Baer
Gomez

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Greb wasn't a big puncher he only had 48 KO's out of like 260 wins, Greb was a volume puncher not a devastating puncher.

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I like to put Greb in everything.But I tried to think and I put in the wrong guy. I meant to put in Wilde like Donny did thats why I gave him CC. He was probably the dirtiest fighter ever though.

How about today.
Pavlik , Miranda , Pacman , Vitali ,

How would Pavlik or Miranda compare to Jackson and Robinson? I dont know. Miranda can punch with any middle weight out there for the last two decades so can Pavlik. They both have Tyson like numbers with all of the first round knockouts and knock out percentage. I think pound for pound its Shavers. No , not cause he is from Northeast Ohio ( Youngstown) but beacuse Tex Cobb said so. Ali said so. And Foreman admitted ducking him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2GS289O98U

p4p forman hands down!

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Shavers
Jackson
Robinson
Greb
Marciano
Hearns
Pavlik
Tyson
Baer
Gomez

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Greb wasn't a big puncher he only had 48 KO's out of like 260 wins, Greb was a volume puncher not a devastating puncher.

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I like to put Greb in everything.But I tried to think and I put in the wrong guy. I meant to put in Wilde like Donny did thats why I gave him CC. He was probably the dirtiest fighter ever though.

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Yea i put Wilde in my list as well he used to KO guys like 2 stone heavier than him.

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Originally Posted by Terry Nutkins

Duran was never a devastating puncher, even as a lightweight. He had very good power, in all his shots, but even at 135 he wore guys down. He retained his power throughout the 15 rounds which was remarkable, but he should never be included in such a list. Nigel Benn's inclusion at super middle is myopic to say the least. Benn didn't carry his firepower up to SM and his records reveals everything you need to know. Even as a middle weight, in true world class company, he wasn't nearly as devastating as say Jackson or Mcellen. Not even in the same ballpark.

Hearns hit harder than Norris did at JR middle, no question. And the gold toothed swaggering Mexican Oliveres is a must inclusion.

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Benn was still a very devastating puncher at Super Middleweight his power didn't change that much, if Benn isn't in your *list* then who else should be at Super Middleweight then ?? Jackson never fought at Super Middleweight, McClellan only fought once at Super Middleweight vs Benn and he lost so you cannot rate him at Super Middleweight, And as for Benn's power he did KO Barkley, Dewitt who went 12 rounds with Hearns, and he also was the only boxer to ever stop Robbie Sims as well.

I already included Hearns at Welterweight i don't put 2 of the same boxers in my lists, thats why i put Norris at Jr Middleweight otherwise i would of put Jackson twice at Jr Middleweight and Middleweight. And Olivares almost made my list but IMO Zarate is one of the best KO artists of all time so he for certain deserves to be there IMO.

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Terry will have to go find a response on another board to copy.