Andre Berto is WBC number 1 right?Does that make him Floyd's mandatory?

I don't understand how someone with 2 decent wins:Estrada and Rivera,and fighting Trabant next is WBC number 1 but nonetheless, when does he become an enforceable mandatory??

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

I don't understand how someone with 2 decent wins:Estrada and Rivera,and fighting Trabant next is WBC number 1 but nonetheless, when does he become an enforceable mandatory??

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Well WBC's top 10 seems a little weak in general so im not so unhappy to see Berto at #1. Although Margarito might have something to say about that, being at #2.

Collazo at #8 is a little bit of a shocker.

Berto would get smoked by PBF. I would much rather see ODLH vs PBF II than to see Berto vs PBF. To be honest, I am now looking forward to the ODLH/PBF rematch. I watched the first fight again several times last week and I rather enjoyed it. I am starting to like Floyd but he still pisses me off with his onconventional style.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Berto would get smoked by PBF. I would much rather see ODLH vs PBF II than to see Berto vs PBF. To be honest, I am now looking forward to the ODLH/PBF rematch. I watched the first fight again several times last week and I rather enjoyed it. I am starting to like Floyd but he still pisses me off with his onconventional style.

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Im glad you admitted that Danny, i didn't think ODLH vs Mayweather was that bad either. Before the fight started i was predicting a snoozefest but it was an entertaining fight and better than i expected, of course it wasn't a toe to toe slugfest like Gatti vs Ward. But the fight had some good exchanges, and plus there was some drama at the end because it was a close fight and no one knew who really was going to win at that point.

I thought the 1st fight was good. But there's no justification for a rematch.

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Originally Posted by Jimafee

I thought the 1st fight was good. But there's no justification for a rematch.

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I thought Mayweather easily won by 3 or 4 rounds, but you know what Jim ?? you would be surprised how many non hardcore boxing fans think ODLH won.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Berto would get smoked by PBF. I would much rather see ODLH vs PBF II than to see Berto vs PBF. To be honest, I am now looking forward to the ODLH/PBF rematch. I watched the first fight again several times last week and I rather enjoyed it. I am starting to like Floyd but he still pisses me off with his onconventional style.

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the rematch doesn't really bother but i would of still of preferred to see mayweather fight cotto, mosley even margarito or williams.

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Originally Posted by ds91

the rematch doesn't really bother but i would of still of preferred to see mayweather fight cotto, mosley even margarito or williams.

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Basically, someone more deserving :)

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Jimafee

Basically, someone more deserving :)

I agree.

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exactly, he needs to give the fans what they want for a change, i doubt you heard many people asking mayweather for a de la hoya rematch. people wanna see him fight the best at 147, not past their prime greats.

i was hoping that this year he would fight cotto, etc but looks like it ain't happening, hopefully next year it will happen.

if any mayweather fans say its the best fight for the biggest money out there, they are right but as fans don't they want to see there fighter fight the best and be less interested in what is going into his pockets

I agree right along with the rest of you. I love this kid berto but he has no buisness going anywhere near floyd right now. Sadly i'd rather see him take his chances in there than watch oscar get beat again though.

The WBC will let Floyd fight who he wants when he wants as he's their biggest cash cow and source of credibility.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Berto would get smoked by PBF. I would much rather see ODLH vs PBF II than to see Berto vs PBF. To be honest, I am now looking forward to the ODLH/PBF rematch. I watched the first fight again several times last week and I rather enjoyed it. I am starting to like Floyd but he still pisses me off with his onconventional style.

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Berto gets smoked by any of the current champions let alone PBF...If he went in and waited to land a big shot on Floyd Berto would be paintbrushed and KO'd inside of 2rds if even...

IMO Cintron beats Berto at this stage in his career as does Williams or Cotto......

Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and even Judah beat Berto right now

It doesn't matter who the #1 contender is, because at this point in his career, Floyd is only going to fight the guys who make him the most money, he's not going to fight mandatory contenders just to keep a belt.

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Originally Posted by ICB

Im glad you admitted that Danny, i didn't think ODLH vs Mayweather was that bad either. Before the fight started i was predicting a snoozefest but it was an entertaining fight and better than i expected, of course it wasn't a toe to toe slugfest like Gatti vs Ward. But the fight had some good exchanges, and plus there was some drama at the end because it was a close fight and no one knew who really was going to win at that point.

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Looking back on Floyd's old fights, all we see for the most part are one sided beat down's with the exception of a few bouts. I hate to see anyone, totally dominate another man for any amount of rounds and get the victory.
PBF vs ODLH was competitive and that has to count for something. I do however, hope that Floyd fights at least one or two top Welters before hanging them up. The way things are looking, I would have to say that Floyd is going to most likely follow the path of ODLH and fight only when he want's to maybe once or twice a year and only for big bucks. It now seems like Oscar is sort of moving on and now wants to take on a couple of TV fights, which should leave PBF holding the baton and taking those one or two big money fights per year. Floyd still has a lot to give and take from this sport. Some one who loves money as much as him, wont go away before completely cashing in.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Looking back on Floyd's old fights, all we see for the most part are one sided beat down's with the exception of a few bouts. I hate to see anyone, totally dominate another man for any amount of rounds and get the victory.
PBF vs ODLH was competitive and that has to count for something. I do however, hope that Floyd fights at least one or two top Welters before hanging them up. The way things are looking, I would have to say that Floyd is going to most likely follow the path of ODLH and fight only when he want's to maybe once or twice a year and only for big bucks. It now seems like Oscar is sort of moving on and now wants to take on a couple of TV fights, which should leave PBF holding the baton and taking those one or two big money fights per year. Floyd still has a lot to give and take from this sport. Some one who loves money as much as him, wont go away before completely cashing in.

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Great posting Danny some good rep coming your way.

Sorry i can't give you any i have to spread some round first, oh well i'll give you some next time.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Looking back on Floyd's old fights, all we see for the most part are one sided beat down's with the exception of a few bouts. I hate to see anyone, totally dominate another man for any amount of rounds and get the victory.
PBF vs ODLH was competitive and that has to count for something. I do however, hope that Floyd fights at least one or two top Welters before hanging them up. The way things are looking, I would have to say that Floyd is going to most likely follow the path of ODLH and fight only when he want's to maybe once or twice a year and only for big bucks. It now seems like Oscar is sort of moving on and now wants to take on a couple of TV fights, which should leave PBF holding the baton and taking those one or two big money fights per year. Floyd still has a lot to give and take from this sport. Some one who loves money as much as him, wont go away before completely cashing in.

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All I have to say is you are not Danny

Andre Berto would give Mayweather a harder fight right now than Oscar.

I doubt Berto's handlers would try and enforce his mandatory. There not that stupid.

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Originally Posted by Master

Andre Berto would give Mayweather a harder fight right now than Oscar.

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Berto is way too green to get in the ring with Mayweather. He's got a lot of potential, but he's still pretty far from polished from what I've seen.

Keep in mind, that Delahoya might have been Mayweather's toughest fight since he fought Jose Luis Castillo the first time. So I don't see why there's so many people freaking out about the rematch.

Just out of curiosity, who do you think would win if it were Berto instead of Mayweather fighting Delahoya later this year? I'd pick Oscar by wide UD, with a couple knockdowns in the fight for good measure.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

I don't understand how someone with 2 decent wins:Estrada and Rivera,and fighting Trabant next is WBC number 1 but nonetheless, when does he become an enforceable mandatory??

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Well that depends on how Jose is feeling and if he feels the turnout will be good $$$ if you know what I mean. ;)

Mayweather would SMOKE Berto.. not even close..

Anyway, I don't care that DLH is fighting Mayweather again, i just care that its SO DAMN LATE in the year.. At least if it was in May, it would leave PBF open for a possible november/december fight (like last year).. Am i excited about it? Not really.. I don't think that Floyd will have a problem getting a UD on this one..

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Berto gets smoked by any of the current champions let alone PBF...If he went in and waited to land a big shot on Floyd Berto would be paintbrushed and KO'd inside of 2rds if even...

IMO Cintron beats Berto at this stage in his career as does Williams or Cotto......

Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and even Judah beat Berto right now

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Judah-Berto would be a good matchup, I'm not sure who I would favor. There was some talk of the fight a little while ago, but I guess it didn't come together.

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Originally Posted by CFH

Judah-Berto would be a good matchup, I'm not sure who I would favor. There was some talk of the fight a little while ago, but I guess it didn't come together.

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I would have to favor Judah....Berto has too many flaws in his defense....As much of a bad streak Judah has had over the last few years with the exception of Baldomir look who he has lost against....

Berto would be too easy for Zab to just pot shot all night

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I would have to favor Judah....Berto has too many flaws in his defense....As much of a bad streak Judah has had over the last few years with the exception of Baldomir look who he has lost against....

Berto would be too easy for Zab to just pot shot all night

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I'd probably favor Judah too, but Berto's been talking about stepping up his level of competition for a while, and if he's serious about testing himself against the big boys at 147, Judah's a good place to start.

Well Berto is nowhere near ready for Floyd but I think a Margarito, or a Cintron fight would be just what he needs. I think hes ready for either one of those guys.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I would have to favor Judah....Berto has too many flaws in his defense....As much of a bad streak Judah has had over the last few years with the exception of Baldomir look who he has lost against....

Berto would be too easy for Zab to just pot shot all night

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Berto would KO judah.

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

Berto is way too green to get in the ring with Mayweather. He's got a lot of potential, but he's still pretty far from polished from what I've seen.

Keep in mind, that Delahoya might have been Mayweather's toughest fight since he fought Jose Luis Castillo the first time. So I don't see why there's so many people freaking out about the rematch.

Just out of curiosity, who do you think would win if it were Berto instead of Mayweather fighting Delahoya later this year? I'd pick Oscar by wide UD, with a couple knockdowns in the fight for good measure.

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I think ODh would stop Berto, depending on how Oscar handled making 147. He's just too big, strong, and experienced, and Berto's defense is still way too leaky.