I used to think and actually debated with one of the best posters here(Amat) about the lack of quality in the cruiserweight division a year or 2 ago. How wrong was I?! This division is looking pretty dam good. What do you guys think of it>?
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I used to think and actually debated with one of the best posters here(Amat) about the lack of quality in the cruiserweight division a year or 2 ago. How wrong was I?! This division is looking pretty dam good. What do you guys think of it>?
I assume you just read Dan Rafaels newest blog. Before reading it a couple of minutes ago, I had never really thought of how good the crusierweight devision had really become.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
i've liked them for a while, lot of good fights there the last few years.
I actually think the Cruiserweight division is doing great, in the 90s it was considered one of the weakest divisions. In fact it hadn't been an interesting division since Holyfield ruled the division in the 80s. It picked up when Toney and Jirov battled in that terrific fight, then it went in a slump again. But now it has really picked up in the last 2 years, we have seen some great fights like the two Mormeck vs Bell fights and Haye vs Mormeck, now we are seeing Enzo vs Haye who are the two biggest bangers of there division by far, and it has FOTY written all over it, overall its a great division at the moment but i think it might lose some of its appeal when Hayes moves to Heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
It's definitely quality at the moment, though some guys still use iot as stepping stone. Get entertaining fights there even if the fighters aren't genuine contenders since thery're powerful but with much less of the hugfests we get at heavyweight.
You can make a case that it's a more exciting division right now than LHW. There is a quality unified champ taking on a real top challenger (Haye v Enzo), and a handful quality fighters who have taken up long term residence in the division (Bell, Mormeck, Cunningham) to go along with a good former LHW champ who has moved up (Adamek).
And there's always the Ding-a-Ling man. He's always good for nice FnF event.
The Cruiserweight division has been pretty good for a couple of years already
I think the divisions been OK, it could certainly be doing better that's for sure.
Really looking forward to what Adamek can do there.
The problem with Cruiserweight is that whenever a guy is top in it they want to move up to heavyweight. Alot more prestige and money up a little in weigh
The guy im most excited about at CW is Herbie Hide. The guy has amazing power, altho a glass jaw. I think against men his own size rather than giant heavyweights he could be a force. I see him getting near the top of the division.
Still true in some cases, but some guys just fill out and it's the natural move. That's what will happen with Haye. But with the HW division becoming a place where 240+ lbs is pretty normal, and the weight limit raised to 200lb, more and more decent fighters are sticking around CW. When Cruiser was 194 and 220 was the norm for heavyweights, guys couldn't really resist the temptation to move up. Now a fighter better think long and hard about whether or not he wants to bang with guys 40+ lbs more, giving up huge reach. Even 220lb guys like Povetkin and Chambers have become 'tweeners.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonation
I never been much of a Adamek fan. If he fights Bell, I think he'll get laid outQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I quite like Adamek i find him very exciting i loved his two fights with Paul Briggs, i do agree though he is limited and i think Bell will comeback in style and do a good job on Adamek, i don't think Adamek's power will bother Bell much either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Should RJJ go for a title at CW before he retires? That'd be a title in 5 divisions......
I like the cruiser weight division. The heavy weight division is boring most of the time. They guys are huge and most don't move very well and it makes for boring fights IMO. The cruisers are able to hit hard and move ok too, well some of them. For mr it just has a good combination when good fighters are fighting at that weight. And yes I like the guys there at the moment too.
As far as talent goes, the Cruiserweights aren't doing too badly, but there doesn't seem to be too many fighters who have that electric personality that makes people want to watch them; aside from Haye I guess, people don't seem to follow them that closely (maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way it seems).
The Cruisers are always going to be overshadowed by the heavies.
I've liked the past few years,the talent that is.It was just something DOn King did not put together any big names.I mean Braithwaite was his bread and butter and he was the least dominant fighter in my eyes.I like Dale Brown I did think he beat O'neill a few years ago also the O'Niell Bell and MOrmeck fights are great fights.THe guy I do like the best is (well can't remember his name) but he did just beat Kelvin Davis in like a half arounf a few weeks ago.Well I would be on the lookout.It could be that this division will be the new heavyweight's
They're a pretty decent bunch. I've always viewed the Cruisers as Athletic Heavies...The unification bout between Enzo and Hatye will tell a lot of the future. Should Haye win he'll surely defect to Heavy. Should Enzo win the division may have a legitimate King who will rule tilll his defeat or retirement.
cruiserweight division does not get the respect it deserves, fighters know this, and its why some move to heavyweight.
Ive been a fan of the Cruiserweight Division pretty much since the Toney-Jirov fight like ICE said.
At the moment id say its a lot better than its neighbouring Divisions.
I'm hoping the traffic between Heavy and Cruiser becomes a Two-Way thing soon. Id also like to see more Light-Heavys move up to Cruiser.... Dawson v Macerinelli...?
Even Tarver v Byrd...? You see the picture ;)
Thats why we need a Super-Cruierweight Division! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RozzySean
It is actually in a much better state than the heavyweight division right now. I never thought I would ever see the day where I could say that.
Same with Super Middle. It was once a laughing stock division, and now it is incredibly strong.
I think u mean Eric Fields FIGHTFAN. He is awesome. 8 round 1 KO's in his first 11 fights!