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JR welterweight -Whose your best of all time
And why ?
AARON PRYOR
Why ?
Leonard moved up a weight to avoid pryor IN THE OLYMIPICS (BECAUSE AT THE TIME, LEONARD thort PRYOR WAS GONNA MAKE THE OLYMPIC TEAM, but aaron diddnt)and leonard never fought aaron as a pro .
His only defeat was after a two year lay off against bobby joe young he just comes at you AND he just throws lead incessantly.
He was a great competitor and the tougher the figher the greater he fought ,which is a sign of a true champion.
But a close second would be pernell whitaker at that weight.
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Well it depends on what we're basing it on.... talent or accomplishment at the weight.
For example, someone like Whitaker probably could have beaten just about any 140 pounder in history, but he only fought one title fight at 140. Can we really consider a guy the best ever at 140 who only fought there once?
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Aaron Pryor - He was like a Tornado in the Ring, never let up but at times was reckless and was knocked down a few times. This spelt danger for his opponents! The Arguello fights are classics.
Kostya Tszyu - Often underestimated IMO, huge puncher with equally good boxing skills, i know his people wanted him to fight JCC after having just 4 pro fights back in 94'. 50% of all of his pro fights were against World Champions .
Sadly he never did get that mega-fight against a DLH or Mosley.
Julio Cesar Chavez- His record speaks for itself, especially the early 90's, not sure about the level of competition early on in his career. He went on to long though.
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sexy boxer is that you in the picture
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The Boxer
sexy boxer is that you in the picture
yes does it matter ?
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All the names have already been mentioned but i think these names deserve a mention.
Nicolino Locche
Barney Ross
Duilio Loi
Carlos Ortiz
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Henry Armstrong never weighed more than 138 at his peak.
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sexyboxer
yes does it matter ?
no i was just asking.
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IMO i'd have to go with Julio Cesar Chavez
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The Boxer
no i was just asking.
Of course it matters. He wants to BONE you.
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Aaron Pryor always in shape and never in a bad fight. He would always get you and just ask Ray Leonard why he avoided him. He was quick and had power in both hands. On that rare occassion when a fight wa difficult, he made the right adjustments and his hand was held up by the referee.
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yeah I'll go with ono Carlos Maussa greatest fighter period.J/K I'll go with Tszyu
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Its hard to say I think that JCC, Pryor, Tszyu all did the most at the weight, but that Mayweather would beat any of them, and I also think ODLH would have given any of them a ton of trouble at 140 with his jab and hook. Also when did Leonard dodge Pryor? Leonard was a lot bigger than Pryor, and a fought Duran who was a lot better than Pryor. IF you aren't scared of Hearns at the time Leonard fought him then you aren't scared of anyone.
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Pryor always claimed Leonard was ducking him, and I believe (though not sure) Pryor tried to make the match, but Leonard choose other fights. Pryor would have been a tough match for him.
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Julio Ceaser Chavez for me, too many big names and an incredible record, JCC for his longevity.
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Taeth
Also when did Leonard dodge Pryor? Leonard was a lot bigger than Pryor, and a fought Duran who was a lot better than Pryor. IF you aren't scared of Hearns at the time Leonard fought him then you aren't scared of anyone.
I agree. I've never bought the whole "Leonard ducked Pryor" argument, I think it's a bunch of BS. Leonard fought Hearns, Duran, and Hagler, and yet people claim he was scared of fighting Aaron Pryor.
Leonard would've smoked Pryor.
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Taeth
Its hard to say I think that JCC, Pryor, Tszyu all did the most at the weight, but that Mayweather would beat any of them, and I also think ODLH would have given any of them a ton of trouble at 140 with his jab and hook. Also when did Leonard dodge Pryor? Leonard was a lot bigger than Pryor, and a fought Duran who was a lot better than Pryor. IF you aren't scared of Hearns at the time Leonard fought him then you aren't scared of anyone.
True De La Hoya would probably beat all of em, but he just didn't spend alot of time at junior welter.
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Aaron Pryor!!!
Controlled, sustained aggression...
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I think the top 3 in Pryor, Tszyu and JCC were long time 140lb champions and both Mayweather and DLH spent little time in this division and Mosley never even went there! These guys beat the best at 140lb in their era over a long period of time. Would Mayweather and DLH beat these 3 at 140lb? They would all be great fights!
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THE THIRD MAN
I think the top 3 in Pryor, Tszyu and JCC were long time 140lb champions and both Mayweather and DLH spent little time in this division and Mosley never even went there! These guys beat the best at 140lb in their era over a long period of time. Would Mayweather and DLH beat these 3 at 140lb? They would all be great fights!
pryor mayweather(at this weight jrwelterweight only ) ...that wood be amazing to see .
who do u think would win ... i think pryor in prime built up anger from proyer would make this fight exciting
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SweetPea
I agree. I've never bought the whole "Leonard ducked Pryor" argument, I think it's a bunch of BS. Leonard fought Hearns, Duran, and Hagler, and yet people claim he was scared of fighting Aaron Pryor.
Leonard would've smoked Pryor.
I agree that Leonard would probably have knocked out Pryor. Pryors kamikazi style would have worked well into Leonard's sharp shooting.
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