Floyd Mayweather is definitely avoiding Cotto.

In response to the Hatton thread I'm posting this.

Floyd "Fights no welter" Mayweather is without a doubt ducking Cotto. His last fight he chooses to fight a NATURAL 140 POUNDER in Ricky Hatton who previousley nearly got KNFO by Luis Collazo (I ain't bias on this) and looked awful in doing so. He now chooses to fight a part time 35 yr old fader in ODLH for what reason?? $$$ I'm sure Mayweather-Cotto would generate a lot of money, both undefeated NATURAL WELTERWEIGHTS. Cotto has fought better light-welters AND better welters than Floyd and yet all Floyd says is "Miguel Cotto is a great champion but I don't want the sport of boxing to retire me" BULLSHIT FLOYD JUST BULLSHIT!!!

Cotto would be the biggest test for Floyd and let's compare there wins:

Floyd at 140 POUNDS:

Corley
Gatti
Brussels.

Miguel at 140 POUNDS:


Malignaggi
Branco
Torres
Corley
Pinto
N'dou
Sosa
Maussa

Floyd at 147 POUNDS:

Judah
Baldomir
Hatton

Miguel at 147 POUNDS:

Urkal
Mosely
Judah

IT'S OFFICIAL Cotto has fought better opponentS unlike Witter and there is no excuse for Floyd to duck Cotto which he is doing!!!

YOU'RE NUMBER 1 FLOYD - MY ARSE

Cotto has fought better at Welter and L/Welter but remember Hatton was the one calling out Floyd not the other way round.

I do though think that if Floyd fought Hatton at 140 the win would have meant a hell of a lot more.

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Originally Posted by Kel

Cotto has fought better at Welter and L/Welter but remember Hatton was the one calling out Floyd not the other way round.

I do though think that if Floyd fought Hatton at 140 the win would have meant a hell of a lot more.

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I agree mate. Hatton was not a natural 147 it was clear.

YOu guys are full of shit, the reason why Hatton possed any trouble for FLoyd at all was his speed, not being the bigger man, Hatton's only chance was to be fast enough to catch Mayweather, but the problem was, Mayweather was better on the inside than anyone expected, and he moves so quickly that in order for Hatton to keep up with him he had to abandon his head movement. People have been saying shit for years like Mayweather was ducking Baldomir when he fought Zab, but in reality he made the fight bigger by holding off. A lot of people, blind people, felt Oscar-Floyd was close, and that fight has more money attached to it than any other fight out there, it will do nothing to diminish Mayweather-Cotto in the future and it will happen. Also about the competition Mayweather fought Sosa at lightweight so they both faced him, he fought Corley, he has had the better competition overall, but Cotto has had good competition over his whole career no doubt, however, he has struggled way more than Mayweather throughout his career. Corley almost dropped him, Torres almost KO'ed him, Even Zab Judah made him go rubber legged in the 10th, and he stunned Cotto early. I love Cotto, but no way is Mayweather ducking him, if Arum really wanted the fight to happen he would be flashing the money. Wait for after September 21 or whenever PBF-ODLH 2 is done then you will see Cotto-Mayweather.

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Originally Posted by Kel

Cotto has fought better at Welter and L/Welter but remember Hatton was the one calling out Floyd not the other way round.

I do though think that if Floyd fought Hatton at 140 the win would have meant a hell of a lot more.

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Why? Mayweather had way more advantages at 140 than at 147 over Hatton, Hatton's footspeed didn't look slower than he did at 140 while Mayweather who was a natural 130 pounder is a lot smaller in frame than Hatton naturally and bulking up has slowed him down considerably especially from 140 to 147 it was the most obvious.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

YOu guys are full of shit, the reason why Hatton possed any trouble for FLoyd at all was his speed, not being the bigger man, Hatton's only chance was to be fast enough to catch Mayweather, but the problem was, Mayweather was better on the inside than anyone expected, and he moves so quickly that in order for Hatton to keep up with him he had to abandon his head movement. People have been saying shit for years like Mayweather was ducking Baldomir when he fought Zab, but in reality he made the fight bigger by holding off. A lot of people, blind people, felt Oscar-Floyd was close, and that fight has more money attached to it than any other fight out there, it will do nothing to diminish Mayweather-Cotto in the future and it will happen. Also about the competition Mayweather fought Sosa at lightweight so they both faced him, he fought Corley, he has had the better competition overall, but Cotto has had good competition over his whole career no doubt, however, he has struggled way more than Mayweather throughout his career. Corley almost dropped him, Torres almost KO'ed him, Even Zab Judah made him go rubber legged in the 10th, and he stunned Cotto early. I love Cotto, but no way is Mayweather ducking him, if Arum really wanted the fight to happen he would be flashing the money. Wait for after September 21 or whenever PBF-ODLH 2 is done then you will see Cotto-Mayweather.

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That's your opinion and I respect it mate however Floyd really is ducking him and who at welterweight has PBF fought ??, he chooses the easy opponents and don't say Baldomir was a test, Cotto KO'd Judah unlike Mayweather won by UD and Mayweather has fought shot fighters in Gatti and Mitchell so no wonder he handled the job easier and got beat in the first Castillo fight. Cotto has not fought someone shot and at 140 pounds Cotto was only 70% of himself now and still beat the current IBF and WBO 140 pounders today.

i agree he is although i do believe mayweather will face him next year

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i agree he is although i do believe mayweather will face him next year

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Check your PM ds91 in a MO. ;)

I think mayweather will beat cotto although i dont want him to

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Originally Posted by Taeth

YOu guys are full of shit, the reason why Hatton possed any trouble for FLoyd at all was his speed, not being the bigger man, Hatton's only chance was to be fast enough to catch Mayweather, but the problem was, Mayweather was better on the inside than anyone expected, and he moves so quickly that in order for Hatton to keep up with him he had to abandon his head movement. People have been saying shit for years like Mayweather was ducking Baldomir when he fought Zab, but in reality he made the fight bigger by holding off. A lot of people, blind people, felt Oscar-Floyd was close, and that fight has more money attached to it than any other fight out there, it will do nothing to diminish Mayweather-Cotto in the future and it will happen. Also about the competition Mayweather fought Sosa at lightweight so they both faced him, he fought Corley, he has had the better competition overall, but Cotto has had good competition over his whole career no doubt, however, he has struggled way more than Mayweather throughout his career. Corley almost dropped him, Torres almost KO'ed him, Even Zab Judah made him go rubber legged in the 10th, and he stunned Cotto early. I love Cotto, but no way is Mayweather ducking him, if Arum really wanted the fight to happen he would be flashing the money. Wait for after September 21 or whenever PBF-ODLH 2 is done then you will see Cotto-Mayweather.

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You gotta be kidding man. What do you mean Arum would be throwing the money at floyd? He's been throwing money at floyd for years now and all floyd does is ignore it and take the easy fights. He's a punk man plain and simple.

I'm glad he went where he belongs (WWE) where that action is staged just like his boxing pressers. That guys is sickening and so are his fans that think he doesn't need to fight the best to prove he's the best.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

In response to the Hatton thread I'm posting this.

Floyd "Fights no welter" Mayweather is without a doubt ducking Cotto. His last fight he chooses to fight a NATURAL 140 POUNDER in Ricky Hatton who previousley nearly got KNFO by Luis Collazo (I ain't bias on this) and looked awful in doing so. He now chooses to fight a part time 35 yr old fader in ODLH for what reason?? $$$ I'm sure Mayweather-Cotto would generate a lot of money, both undefeated NATURAL WELTERWEIGHTS. Cotto has fought better light-welters AND better welters than Floyd and yet all Floyd says is "Miguel Cotto is a great champion but I don't want the sport of boxing to retire me" BULLSHIT FLOYD JUST BULLSHIT!!!

Cotto would be the biggest test for Floyd and let's compare there wins:

Floyd at 140 POUNDS:

Corley
Gatti
Brussels.

Miguel at 140 POUNDS:


Malignaggi
Branco
Torres
Corley
Pinto
N'dou
Sosa
Maussa

Floyd at 147 POUNDS:

Judah
Baldomir
Hatton

Miguel at 147 POUNDS:

Urkal
Mosely
Judah

IT'S OFFICIAL Cotto has fought better opponentS unlike Witter and there is no excuse for Floyd to duck Cotto which he is doing!!!

YOU'RE NUMBER 1 FLOYD - MY ARSE

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You Forgot Quintana!!

When Floyd enterd 140 he said Cotto was too green, at 147 Floyd said He wasn't popular enough and now that it's perfect he wants to take a break. So Cotto couln't lan a good fight what he does goes to take a fight with Gomez until Margo and Cintron go at it to then set up a fight and unify.

Who has Mayweather fought at welterweight? Um he fought a much faster looking, a sharper Zab Judah then the one that fought Cotto. Cotto punches harder than Mayweather of course he has been able to take out guys that Mayweather hasn't (Sosa, Corley) that doesn't mean a thing. Moving up to 154 to face Oscar Dela Hoya is a way bigger threat to Mayweather than facing Cotto, and you want to know why? Oscar is faster than Cotto, he has a many of the same skill sets as Cotto, he is a little better at boxing on the outside, and he has a way better chin than Cotto. I think Cotto has certain skills that Oscar doesn't, but to fight Oscar is to be in the spot light and Mayweather had never been in the spotlight like that before. IMO guys like Zab Judah present more of a problem for Mayweather for then Cotto in many respects, first of all Zab is the closest guy to measuring up with mayweather in the speed department, Secondly MAyweather comes forward against Southpaws which he definitely isn't as good at doing as countering. Mayweather also fought Baldomir, an albeit slow but industructible welterweight, now I think a few guys can beat Baldomir, but not like Mayweather did, Baldomir landed 12% of his punches in that fight where as he was landing WAY more regularly on Judah. Mayweather also fought Ricky Hatton one of the guys people felt was the most dangerous of anyone he could face because of Ricky's footspeed, pressure, and inside fighting ability, yet Mayweather beat him in every aspect of the fight.

I am sick people who think that Mayweahter isn't taking challenges, you would have to have your head up your ass to not think he is facing quality opposition. Cotto-Mayweather will come, but not this year, next year Mayweather will face Cotto when Cotto is more well known after fighting Mayorga and Mayweather will beat Cotto because he is too fast, and too good.

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You gotta be kidding man. What do you mean Arum would be throwing the money at floyd? He's been throwing money at floyd for years now and all floyd does is ignore it and take the easy fights. He's a punk man plain and simple.

I'm glad he went where he belongs (WWE) where that action is staged just like his boxing pressers. That guys is sickening and so are his fans that think he doesn't need to fight the best to prove he's the best.

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Show me where Arum has offered 15+ million dollars for Mayweather to face Cotto... He threw money at MAyweather to fight Margarito, but MArgarito is a joke, I am not digging at Paul Williams because I like him, but he was able to beat Margarito like he did then Margarito wouldn't land a punch on Mayweather... I've seen Arum throw money at Mayweather to figh tMargarito becuase there is nothing to lose, MArgarito isn't/wasn't undefeated he was a big guy, it was back when people thought pressure was the key to stopping Mayweather even though they must have forgotten about Mayweather-Corrales. Both Arum and Mayweather want Cotto to be a bigger name before the fight happens.

Fighters are always going to fight the guy who makes them the most money. It's not just Floyd Mayweather. Why do you think Pacquiao chose to fight Marquez instead of going to lightweight? Because Marquez caved and demanded less money, making it the most profitable fight for Manny.

It's simple... as much as people love Cotto, Floyd isn't going to seriously consider him as an opponent until Cotto is the guy who brings the biggest potential paycheck. Fighting Oscar again makes Floyd a lot more money than fighting Cotto, which is why he's fighting Oscar this fall and not Cotto.

When Floyd beats Oscar again and removes him from the equation, then Cotto becomes the biggest potential money maker for Floyd. If Floyd refuses to fight Cotto at that point and takes a smaller check against someone else instead, then criticize him all you want.

If you don't like the fact that guys make decisions based on what will bring them the most money, then you might as well quit watching professional sports, because that's how it's always been and how it's always going to be.

Floyd wants the big-money fights and will fight Cotto when that fight will earn him the most money. He'll win too. Not as easily as he did against Hatton but assuming similar refereeing he'll just stick and move and box Cotto's head off.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Fighters are always going to fight the guy who makes them the most money. It's not just Floyd Mayweather. Why do you think Pacquiao chose to fight Marquez instead of going to lightweight? Because Marquez caved and demanded less money, making it the most profitable fight for Manny.

It's simple... as much as people love Cotto, Floyd isn't going to seriously consider him as an opponent until Cotto is the guy who brings the biggest potential paycheck. Fighting Oscar again makes Floyd a lot more money than fighting Cotto, which is why he's fighting Oscar this fall and not Cotto.

When Floyd beats Oscar again and removes him from the equation, then Cotto becomes the biggest potential money maker for Floyd. If Floyd refuses to fight Cotto at that point and takes a smaller check against someone else instead, then criticize him all you want.

If you don't like the fact that guys make decisions based on what will bring them the most money, then you might as well quit watching professional sports, because that's how it's always been and how it's always going to be.

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This is why i like this forum, couldn't have said it better myself!
A good analytical post that is exactly why PBF will not be fighting Cotto this year! We won't see PBF V Cotto until this time next year at the earliest!

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Who has Mayweather fought at welterweight? Um he fought a much faster looking, a sharper Zab Judah then the one that fought Cotto. Cotto punches harder than Mayweather of course he has been able to take out guys that Mayweather hasn't (Sosa, Corley) that doesn't mean a thing. Moving up to 154 to face Oscar Dela Hoya is a way bigger threat to Mayweather than facing Cotto, and you want to know why? Oscar is faster than Cotto, he has a many of the same skill sets as Cotto, he is a little better at boxing on the outside, and he has a way better chin than Cotto. I think Cotto has certain skills that Oscar doesn't, but to fight Oscar is to be in the spot light and Mayweather had never been in the spotlight like that before. IMO guys like Zab Judah present more of a problem for Mayweather for then Cotto in many respects, first of all Zab is the closest guy to measuring up with mayweather in the speed department, Secondly MAyweather comes forward against Southpaws which he definitely isn't as good at doing as countering. Mayweather also fought Baldomir, an albeit slow but industructible welterweight, now I think a few guys can beat Baldomir, but not like Mayweather did, Baldomir landed 12% of his punches in that fight where as he was landing WAY more regularly on Judah. Mayweather also fought Ricky Hatton one of the guys people felt was the most dangerous of anyone he could face because of Ricky's footspeed, pressure, and inside fighting ability, yet Mayweather beat him in every aspect of the fight.

I am sick people who think that Mayweahter isn't taking challenges, you would have to have your head up your ass to not think he is facing quality opposition. Cotto-Mayweather will come, but not this year, next year Mayweather will face Cotto when Cotto is more well known after fighting Mayorga and Mayweather will beat Cotto because he is too fast, and too good.

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Some rep your way... But honestly I wouldn't bother trying to reason with pure haters. These clowns will always say Floyd is ducking someone, because they dont like him. If he hadn't fought Hatton they'd still be screaming how afraid of him Floyd is. If anyone has trouble understanding why Floyd is fighting Oscar again instead of Cotto, they are either extremely stupid, or just not bothering to be objective about it. "Mayweather-Cotto would make lot's of money too" has to be about the dumbest thing someone could say, if they think it's supposed to be a legitimate point. Oscar will bring Floyd probably 5-10 times in the rematch what he would make fighting Cotto, not too mention the notoriety. If anyone here feels they'd train their ass off for months to take a much smaller paycheck for much less recognition against an opponent who poses an equal threat, please, do tell why. Especially when it won't change anything in the long run. I'd love to see Mayweather fight Cotto instead of Oscar as well, I think all boxing fans would. The problem is that most people who would pay for the rematch on PPV, don't even know who Miguel Cotto is. It's really not difficult to understand. The fact that people expect Floyd to go out of his way to please such a small number of hardcore boxing fans who for the most part hate on him anyways, is.

I believe a few years back Floyd offered Cotto the fight when they were both under Bob Arum however it was turned down. Its similar to the Shane Mosley situation where Floyd offered him the fight but he decided to go on holiday instead. Floyd is in a situation now where he can choose who he fights because he has earned the right to.

As for the record comparason i think thats unfair Cotto has been at the 140lb division for nearly his whole career Mayweather hasnt.

Mayweather has beat guys like Corrales,Hernandez,Manfredy,Corley,Castillo who were all bonified opponants + De La Hoya,Judah, Hatton so your argument is pritty weak.

Also in the Judah fight Mayweather was about to KO him in the 10th but Judah low blowed and rabbit punched to break up his rythem and buy some time.

Now there is only one reason that Mayweather aint fighting Cotto yet because hes the only guy left to make some $$$ after De La Hoya so he wants Cottos stock to rise to its peak.

This is a completely different situation from Hattons as there are 2 big money fights out there in Pac and Juan Diaz and the other guys like Torres,Witter,Resse,Paulie there stock has risen about as high as its going to get before they take a lose.

Mayweather aint ducking Cotto hes just looking at the situation from a buisness perspective. De La Hoya is still a game fighter and he is far from shot add that to the Floyd senior in his corner and they have an angle to make $$$ whereas Lazcarno brings nothing to the table for Hatton hes a made to measure punching bag and there are plenty other options out there for him

I still say as much as I love Cotto that Oscar De La Hoya is likely the bigger threat for Mayweather. Cotto is as natural in the ring as anyone in the past 10 years except maybe B-Hop, PBF, and RJJ, but he is still right up there, however I think that he is still a little too open to right hands, and I think true movement will cause him trouble because he has to set down everytime he punches. Mosley was more effective against COtto when he was moving, and he isn't even that good technically when he is fighting off his back foot which is why Wright and Forrest gave him so many problems in the first place. I think Cotto is a great fighter, but he isn't MAyweather.

Please, this thread is a got dam joke:rolleyes:

1)Cotto has NEVER EVER beaten a top flight fighter except Mosely and a 37 year old Mosely at that let alone a star fighter in his prime... Undisputable FACT!!!!!!!!!!

2) Cotto has never beaten a Champion at 140-147 to get a belt all he did was fight for vacancies...

3)no one in Cotto's camp even his promoter has thrown a bona fied offer to Floyd to fight Cotto, exce[pt his graveling groupies who piss and moan :rolleyes:

4)Delahoya is a bigger threat than Cotto, if Cotto was worth a dam and had any pull or any appeal outside of his circle jerk groupies than Delahoya himself would have made a fight with Cotto... Delahoya might be a whory promoter these days but he has ducked no one or EVER walked away from a legitimate threat or challenge..

5) who really gives a flying shite what you whiners think, you just add more momentum and attention to Mayweather's success... he is Universally recognized pfp#1 in the world so all the spotting that your hairy triangles do wont change that...

Let Cotto pull a Calzaghe and fight Manfredo you Jokers will find someway to pontificate Cotto and give Gomez a chance... Some of you really make it hard to root for Cotto, he is such a gentleman but some are turning into Royal's with his lust for Kessler:rolleyes:

Dont worry Floyd will tap Cotto's azz soon enough for you guys, no worry there;)

In case you forgot Lee.... Lets get to the krux of your complaint

http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/images/2...ickyhatton.jpg

Hope that helped junior ;)

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Please, this thread is a got dam joke:rolleyes:

1)Cotto has NEVER EVER beaten a top flight fighter except Mosely and a 37 year old Mosely at that let alone a star fighter in his prime... Undisputable FACT!!!!!!!!!!

2) Cotto has never beaten a Champion at 140-147 to get a belt all he did was fight for vacancies...

3)no one in Cotto's camp even his promoter has thrown a bona fied offer to Floyd to fight Cotto, exce[pt his graveling groupies who piss and moan :rolleyes:

4)Delahoya is a bigger threat than Cotto, if Cotto was worth a dam and had any pull or any appeal outside of his circle jerk groupies than Delahoya himself would have made a fight with Cotto... Delahoya might be a whory promoter these days but he has ducked no one or EVER walked away from a legitimate threat or challenge..

5) who really gives a flying shite what you whiners think, you just add more momentum and attention to Mayweather's success... he is Universally recognized pfp#1 in the world so all the spotting that your hairy triangles do wont change that...

Let Cotto pull a Calzaghe and fight Manfredo you Jokers will find someway to pontificate Cotto and give Gomez a chance... Some of you really make it hard to root for Cotto, he is such a gentleman but some are turning into Royal's with his lust for Kessler:rolleyes:

Dont worry Floyd will tap Cotto's azz soon enough for you guys, no worry there;)

In case you forgot Lee.... Lets get to the krux of your complaint

http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/images/2...ickyhatton.jpg

Hope that helped junior ;)

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I love it .. people like you keep comparing Cotto to HAtton and tha will be Floyd's downside,

If Mayweather does not pull for a Cotto fight, PBF will go down as giant Vagina in boxing history and I will be here to remind people of that as long as we live.

As of today, Money Mayweather Jr., is looking more like counterfeit Money Mayweather Jr. maybe he should be called Food Stamp Mayweather Jr.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8323/snap007zp9.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8284/snap008ve4.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2293/snap009ku2.jpg
;D

I also recall Mayweather saying after his Hatton bout that he was not trying to call out any WELTER WEIGHTS. When merchant asked him about Cotto, Floyd peed on himself and had nothing but good things to say about Miguel Cotto.

I smell Mayweather Jr vagina written all over this one.

;)

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I love it .. people like you keep comparing Cotto to HAtton and tha will be Floyd's downside,

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Nope not the point... I like how people ALWAYS glaze over those points but pick out the insignifigant joke I was playing on Lefty who is no doubt still torn over his hero eating a turnbuckle.... I never compared Hatton to Cotto...

Mosely already showed how to beat Cotto... Uppercut cause the inside his mouth is made out of tissue paper and will bleed for the rest of his career do to scar tissue, and dig the body and he will fade.. Mosely had him on the run at the end of the fight but was stupid enough to keep walking into counters and not to mention Shane never was known for good form,fundamentals or intelligence he dosent have 1/2 the technical brilliance as Floyd.. Mayweather is brutal to the body when he wants to be just ask Delahoya who was doing the knee buckling Shuffle when Floyd layed into his midsection and when Cotto fades he wont make the same mistake and get over anxious when Cotto go's on the run... Cotto will be systematically and dissected with surgical presicion... Thats why Arum wont throw his flavor of the day to the wolves just yet tap that moneymaker clean and then let Floyd clown him when he is at his peak... just a matter of time when the hunted becomes the hunter ;)

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If Mayweather does not pull for a Cotto fight, PBF will go down as giant Vagina in boxing history and I will be here to remind people of that as long as we live.

As of today, Money Mayweather Jr., is looking more like counterfeit Money Mayweather Jr. maybe he should be called Food Stamp Mayweather Jr.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8323/snap007zp9.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8284/snap008ve4.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2293/snap009ku2.jpg
;D

I also recall Mayweather saying after his Hatton bout that he was not trying to call out any WELTER WEIGHTS. When merchant asked him about Cotto, Floyd peed on himself and had nothing but good things to say about Miguel Cotto.

I smell Mayweather Jr vagina written all over this one.

;)

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Should go good with the shit in Arums pants with the though of potentially losing his cash register...

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Fighters are always going to fight the guy who makes them the most money. It's not just Floyd Mayweather. Why do you think Pacquiao chose to fight Marquez instead of going to lightweight? Because Marquez caved and demanded less money, making it the most profitable fight for Manny.

It's simple... as much as people love Cotto, Floyd isn't going to seriously consider him as an opponent until Cotto is the guy who brings the biggest potential paycheck. Fighting Oscar again makes Floyd a lot more money than fighting Cotto, which is why he's fighting Oscar this fall and not Cotto.

When Floyd beats Oscar again and removes him from the equation, then Cotto becomes the biggest potential money maker for Floyd. If Floyd refuses to fight Cotto at that point and takes a smaller check against someone else instead, then criticize him all you want.

If you don't like the fact that guys make decisions based on what will bring them the most money, then you might as well quit watching professional sports, because that's how it's always been and how it's always going to be.

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Well again it brings me to the same point. It's understandable that he wants the most money but then he can't have the p4p title because he's undeserving.

How much clearer does it have to be put? How many excuses are gonna be made for floyd by you guys?

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I think mayweather will beat cotto although i dont want him to

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I think Mayweather will beat Cotto although I don't want him to:rolleyes:. Cotto's footwork, hand speed, etc. Doesn't compare to Floyd's. I can visualize already something similar to Mayweather vs Gatti or Mayweather vs Baldomir. Slow guy against the fast guy who can't be hit with more than 2 punches.

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It's understandable that he wants the most money but then he can't have the p4p title because he's undeserving.

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Then I guess you think Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Roy Jones were underserving of being #1 PFP as well.... because they thought the exact same way Floyd thinks.

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Then I guess you think Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Roy Jones were underserving of being #1 PFP as well.... because they thought the exact same way Floyd thinks.

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Oh please man, you always have some lame coverup. It is what it is and thats just stating facts. Stop making excuses for the guy. He doesn't need you to. He makes enough on his own.

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Oh please man, you always have some lame coverup. It is what it is and thats just stating facts. Stop making excuses for the guy. He doesn't need you to. He makes enough on his own.

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So then are you saying that my previous post is inaccurate, and that Robinson, Leonard and Jones didn't care about making as much money as possible?

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Nope not the point... I like how people ALWAYS glaze over those points but pick out the insignifigant joke I was playing on Lefty who is no doubt still torn over his hero eating a turnbuckle.... I never compared Hatton to Cotto...

Mosely already showed how to beat Cotto... Uppercut cause the inside his mouth is made out of tissue paper and will bleed for the rest of his career do to scar tissue, and dig the body and he will fade.. Mosely had him on the run at the end of the fight but was stupid enough to keep walking into counters and not to mention Shane never was known for good form,fundamentals or intelligence he dosent have 1/2 the technical brilliance as Floyd.. Mayweather is brutal to the body when he wants to be just ask Delahoya who was doing the knee buckling Shuffle when Floyd layed into his midsection and when Cotto fades he wont make the same mistake and get over anxious when Cotto go's on the run... Cotto will be systematically and dissected with surgical presicion... Thats why Arum wont throw his flavor of the day to the wolves just yet tap that moneymaker clean and then let Floyd clown him when he is at his peak... just a matter of time when the hunted becomes the hunter ;)

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I can't let this go either. MOsley really didn't cause Cotto to run, something was obviously bothering Cotto, but up until that point he was wearing out Mosley more than anyone I've ever seen except Vernon. Second Mayweather throw uppercuts or looping punches very much, and Cotto has gotten pretty good at avoiding them, what I see however is that Mayweather will land enough to win every round, but it won't be horribly one sided like Mayweather vs Hatton. Cotto is hard to hit cleanly, he's a terrific body puncher, sneaky speed, the only problem is that Mayweather is as brilliant as he is, but mosley is a better offensive fighter than Mayweather so from that perspective what he was able to do offensively against Cotto is irrelevant with mayweather.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I can't let this go either. MOsley really didn't cause Cotto to run, something was obviously bothering Cotto, but up until that point he was wearing out Mosley more than anyone I've ever seen except Vernon. Second Mayweather throw uppercuts or looping punches very much, and Cotto has gotten pretty good at avoiding them, what I see however is that Mayweather will land enough to win every round, but it won't be horribly one sided like Mayweather vs Hatton. Cotto is hard to hit cleanly, he's a terrific body puncher, sneaky speed, the only problem is that Mayweather is as brilliant as he is, but mosley is a better offensive fighter than Mayweather so from that perspective what he was able to do offensively against Cotto is irrelevant with mayweather.

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OMG nothing Bother cotto you are saying that because Kellerman said that. Cotto said in local news paper that he hit Mosley with a lot of power punches but he kept coming so by the 9ht round he decided to box since he felt he was wining the fight.

Watch the HBO fight and the Sentanta (MUUUCH BETTER)

;D Cmon Mayweather Fans dont get mad , be realist ;because that fight, however comes and all of you have to understand that this is like merchandise a product , but the point is that Cotto offer the product to the people ( FANS ) and Mayweather dont want give it to the FANS , so now Cotto going to call out loud him at each fight , is like one of our friend said ,that mean a Merchandise Technics , they know if that fight comes , it going be a lot of money" Big Purse " , so lets have Fun in these Topics. Will you........:cool:

These threads are funny but at the same time i can see why some cotto fans are frustrated. If floyd hadn't fought hatton and fought cotto instead the hatton people would be bringing up this same tired complaint. The man just fought for christ's sake. If you don't fight every contender by labor day weekend then they are all being ducked ??? Cotto has earned his shot and will eventually get it. There must be guys cotto is ducking as well cause gomez isn't exactly the only person outside of floyd cotto could face....where is all the threads crying on behalf of them ?? Where i am dissapointed in floyd is if you aren't gonna retire then us sitting through another oscar fight is a shame when cotto and others are available.

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Originally Posted by Mar

These threads are funny but at the same time i can see why some cotto fans are frustrated. If floyd hadn't fought hatton and fought cotto instead the hatton people would be bringing up this same tired complaint. The man just fought for christ's sake. If you don't fight every contender by labor day weekend then they are all being ducked ??? Cotto has earned his shot and will eventually get it. There must be guys cotto is ducking as well cause gomez isn't exactly the only person outside of floyd cotto could face....where is all the threads crying on behalf of them ?? Where i am dissapointed in floyd is if you aren't gonna retire then us sitting through another oscar fight is a shame when cotto and others are available.

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I agree 100% but the situation is we're in a day where fighters can make more money from fighting a lesser skilled/past his prime popular fighter, than he would from fighting a dangerous contender.

It's a shame but you can't even fault the fighters, because they are getting paid more to take a fight against an opponent who poses very little threat. If i was in their position, i'd do the same.

No real boxing fans want to watch the rematch but they are still putting it on. It gives Cotto a chance to make easy money and Mayweather is getting older and more chance for Cotto to kick his ass. Mayweather has no intention of fighting Cotto, he will retire before that.

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Originally Posted by Master

No real boxing fans want to watch the rematch but they are still putting it on. It gives Cotto a chance to make easy money and Mayweather is getting older and more chance for Cotto to kick his ass. Mayweather has no intention of fighting Cotto, he will retire before that.

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First of all Mayweather isn't getting all that old... look at B-Hop he was 35 when he fought Trinidad and he still looked like a 25 year old... Mayweather trains too hard to lose anything(unless he takes time off) for him to loss anything substantial physically in the next 5 years. As for no real fan wanting to see Mayweather face Oscar... well if you don't want to see the fight, you can't call yourself a real fan because the first fight showed boxing prowess at its finest, two guys who are among the best fighters in the past 20 years faced eachother and they both showed more skill than almost anyone else out there. I can understand if people don't want to dish out 54.99 to see it, but you can go to a bar where you can watch it for the price of a beer or two... if you don't do that you either hate these two guys or you don't appreciate boxing like REAL fans do.

This week I was surprised when I read in a local newspaper Cotto saying that Floyd is avoiding him. This is the very first time I see Cotto challenging an opponent. I really wish this fight happens soon. This way we will not be speaking about he (Cotto or Floyd) won because lost some of his abilities, etc., and all those excuses that we (the fans) usually have for our boxers when they loose.

[HTML[/html][quote=Mar;467112]These threads are funny but at the same time i can see why some cotto fans are frustrated. If floyd hadn't fought hatton and fought cotto instead the hatton people would be bringing up this same tired complaint. The man just fought for christ's sake. If you don't fight every contender by labor day weekend then they are all being ducked ??? Cotto has earned his shot and will eventually get it. There must be guys cotto is ducking as well cause gomez isn't exactly the only person outside of floyd cotto could face....where is all the threads crying on behalf of them ?? [QUOTE][/QUOTE]Where i am dissapointed in floyd is if you aren't gonna retire then us sitting through another oscar fight is a shame when cotto and others are available.[/quote]:cool: Yes Mar , i agree ;you are righ in these lines, and each day im convince that these fight not going happen.:-\

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Originally Posted by Taeth

First of all Mayweather isn't getting all that old... look at B-Hop he was 35 when he fought Trinidad and he still looked like a 25 year old... Mayweather trains too hard to lose anything(unless he takes time off) for him to loss anything substantial physically in the next 5 years. As for no real fan wanting to see Mayweather face Oscar... well if you don't want to see the fight, you can't call yourself a real fan because the first fight showed boxing prowess at its finest, two guys who are among the best fighters in the past 20 years faced eachother and they both showed more skill than almost anyone else out there. I can understand if people don't want to dish out 54.99 to see it, but you can go to a bar where you can watch it for the price of a beer or two... if you don't do that you either hate these two guys or you don't appreciate boxing like REAL fans do.

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You can try and mask that this is a great fight all you want but the truth is Oscar is a part time fighter, who was good but never great and the novelty of the fight ended when they fought the first time. There are better fights out there and you would defend Mayweather fighting anyone.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I agree mate. Hatton was not a natural 147 it was clear.

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Didn't stop you or Hatton from running your mouths saying he was going to beat Mayweather, did it?