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He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
check this article, Calzaghe although impressed by Pavlik thinks he could take him
ESPN - If Pavlik moves up to 168, Calzaghe will be waiting - Boxing
I think I agree with him. Joe will be a handful
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Pavlik is fun and exciting to watch, and hits like a hammer, and I like the guy. Thing is though I do think calzaghe could take him, has enough speed and trickery to elude many of pavliks punches, he does like to get hit with right hands though, but I think his chin would be sturdy enough to withstand the ones that came through. It wouldn't be an easy night for either man tho, because both are crazy active throwing like what a 100 punches a round. Who knows though pavlik might just need one perfect shot to land and it might be lights out for calzaghe, it would be awesome if this match up actually happened.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Yes Pavlik is a bit crude , but he has 2 things over Calzaghe.
1. He fights the best contenders in a strong division.
2. He throws hard KO punches delivered correctly.
Were as Calzaghe spends 10 years fighting guys Warren DUG FROM THE GRAVE.
And Calzaghe thorw slappy arm punches , delivered like my sister would throw.
I really want to know why all of a sudden Calzaghe has such a big mouth ???
He has fought in a very weak division . and held the WBO JOKE title ,for the most part,
Now he fights a BIG NAME in Hopkins but lets not forget Taylor got 2 wins over Hopkins , also the guy is 43 !!!!!!
Bit late Joe , in fact to much to little to late.
And to sum up , Calzaghe said after winning sport personality of the year in the uk ,
" people now know who i am in the street "
Well Joe you have been SM champ for 10 years , and nobody takes the rigged sports personality of the year seriously in the uk , so that sums up how BIG you are when nobody in the Street knew who you were lol
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Yes Pavlik is a bit crude , but he has 2 things over Calzaghe.
1. He fights the best contenders in a strong division.
2. He throws hard KO punches delivered correctly.
Were as Calzaghe spends 10 years fighting guys Warren DUG FROM THE GRAVE.
And Calzaghe thorw slappy arm punches , delivered like my sister would throw.
I really want to know why all of a sudden Calzaghe has such a big mouth ???
He has fought in a very weak division . and held the WBO JOKE title ,for the most part,
Now he fights a BIG NAME in Hopkins but lets not forget Taylor got 2 wins over Hopkins , also the guy is 43 !!!!!!
Bit late Joe , in fact to much to little to late.
And to sum up , Calzaghe said after winning sport personality of the year in the uk ,
" people now know who i am in the street "
Well Joe you have been SM champ for 10 years , and nobody takes the rigged sports personality of the year seriously in the uk , so that sums up how BIG you are when nobody in the Street knew who you were lol
:mad:
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
I was about to criticise Al's post as well until I noticed his picture, he looks like a serial killer.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
fair enough pavlik ain't flashy, fast, slick or whatever but what he does is truly effective, he goes in their and knocks people out (he basically cleaned out the division and made miranda and taylor run off to super middleweight) and if you go to a decision you gonna leave with a battered body, his jab/right cross is one of the best in the sport (wlad obviously takes it), great chin and at middleweight he throws plenty, he is a hard fight for anyone at middleweight and super middleweight.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Yes Pavlik is a bit crude , but he has 2 things over Calzaghe.
1. He fights the best contenders in a strong division.
2. He throws hard KO punches delivered correctly.
Were as Calzaghe spends 10 years fighting guys Warren DUG FROM THE GRAVE.
And Calzaghe thorw slappy arm punches , delivered like my sister would throw.
I really want to know why all of a sudden Calzaghe has such a big mouth ???
He has fought in a very weak division . and held the WBO JOKE title ,for the most part,
Now he fights a BIG NAME in Hopkins but lets not forget Taylor got 2 wins over Hopkins , also the guy is 43 !!!!!!
Bit late Joe , in fact to much to little to late.
And to sum up , Calzaghe said after winning sport personality of the year in the uk ,
" people now know who i am in the street "
Well Joe you have been SM champ for 10 years , and nobody takes the rigged sports personality of the year seriously in the uk , so that sums up how BIG you are when nobody in the Street knew who you were lol
Take it you dont like Calzaghe then? He has beat the best the SM division has to offer, it aint his fault that the divison has been weak over the years.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
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Originally Posted by
Mad_Dog
I would love nothing more than to see Joe floored, especially by someone as powerful as Pavlik, but I think Joe would take him out, just like he did to Kessler.. They both come forward and come to fight, and they work off of their jab and generally just throw 1,2's.. Simple fight, and a crazy style like Joe's has beaten a guy like Pavlik before..
With that said, when you look at someone like Sakio Bika who gave Joe a run for his money, it gets interesting when Joe fights unorthodox fighters.. The guy whos name comes to mind is B HOP.. This is why i think BHOP has a chance against Joe..
In other news.. 500 POSTS ! ;D;D
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Yes Pavlik is a bit crude , but he has 2 things over Calzaghe.
1. He fights the best contenders in a strong division.
2. He throws hard KO punches delivered correctly.
Were as Calzaghe spends 10 years fighting guys Warren DUG FROM THE GRAVE.
And Calzaghe thorw slappy arm punches , delivered like my sister would throw.
I really want to know why all of a sudden Calzaghe has such a big mouth ???
He has fought in a very weak division . and held the WBO JOKE title ,for the most part,
Now he fights a BIG NAME in Hopkins but lets not forget Taylor got 2 wins over Hopkins , also the guy is 43 !!!!!!
Bit late Joe , in fact to much to little to late.
And to sum up , Calzaghe said after winning sport personality of the year in the uk ,
" people now know who i am in the street "
Well Joe you have been SM champ for 10 years , and nobody takes the rigged sports personality of the year seriously in the uk , so that sums up how BIG you are when nobody in the Street knew who you were lol
Here we go with the 43yrs old excuses already....Hopkins was never in a rush to fight Calzaghe as neither was Jones (Self Admittingly).....
Calzaghe pretty much legitimized the WBO title at SMW....Does Joe have some gimme opp...Yes he does I will be the first to admit that but everything else you posted on this is just BS...
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
nobody takes the rigged sports personality of the year seriously in the uk
You are joking?
After Zara phillips wan it we get a deserving winner and you think its rigged, who better deserved it? Joe wan on merit
World champ for 10 years then beats the young strong unified title holder everyone thought was better than joe and easily
Joe would piiss all over Pavlik who is strong but slow, everyone who is agressive has given Taylor fits, saying that though, Pavlik would make a very good match up for Joe, more meaning full than Hopkins, a current recognised champ coming off good wins with an exciting but beatable style.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
I agree with joe...but still don't think he'd beat pavlik.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Calzaghe brings up an interesting match: Kessler V Pavlik. And I agree Kessler would win.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
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Originally Posted by
richard (mossley)
Calzaghe brings up an interesting match: Kessler V Pavlik. And I agree Kessler would win.
I think Kessler would go in confident, then feel what Kelly is dishing out. He will then start fighting defensively because Kelly will be so strong. That will fall into Pavlik's trap and Pavlik will walk him down over 8 or 9 rounds.
Pavlik KO
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Yes Pavlik is a bit crude , but he has 2 things over Calzaghe.
1. He fights the best contenders in a strong division.
2. He throws hard KO punches delivered correctly.
Were as Calzaghe spends 10 years fighting guys Warren DUG FROM THE GRAVE.
And Calzaghe thorw slappy arm punches , delivered like my sister would throw.
I really want to know why all of a sudden Calzaghe has such a big mouth ???
He has fought in a very weak division . and held the WBO JOKE title ,for the most part,
Now he fights a BIG NAME in Hopkins but lets not forget Taylor got 2 wins over Hopkins , also the guy is 43 !!!!!!
Bit late Joe , in fact to much to little to late.
And to sum up , Calzaghe said after winning sport personality of the year in the uk ,
" people now know who i am in the street "
Well Joe you have been SM champ for 10 years , and nobody takes the rigged sports personality of the year seriously in the uk , so that sums up how BIG you are when nobody in the Street knew who you were lol
Calzaghe will get exposed in a while . Hopkins.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
I totally agree that most of Joe's opponents have not been world class but he HAS beaten the world class fighters just as easily as those guys. This is fact.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Calzaghe would beat pavlik as taylor could have beat him but didnt do enough. But the thing is joe does more than enough, have you seen the amount of punches he throws.
Wouldn't rule pavlik out though and it would be a great fight.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
I've said this before and I'm confident enough to believe it, Kelly Pavlik will beat 99% of the guys that stand and trade with him. However, he fights like his feet are in quicksand and needs to mix it up more,rather than just jab,jab right hand. He has other punches for sure but in his last 2 fights,has used only those punches. Against a crafty,experienced and ultra fast fighter like JC,he loses. Southpaw,awkward but intelligent,JC beats Kelly for me(Kelly beats everyone at 160 imo though)
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Joe would box circles around Pavlik. Especially if he fights the same way he fought JT in his last fight where all we saw was jab, jab, right. Jab, jab, right.
I agree with Gamo, anyone who decides to trade with Pavlik would get taken out quick-like... :)
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMicK
Joe would box circles around Pavlik. Especially if he fights the same way he fought JT in his last fight where all we saw was jab, jab, right. Jab, jab, right.
I agree with Gamo, anyone who decides to trade with Pavlik would get taken out quick-like... :)
For what it's worth I agree. If Pavlik thought he had to use his brain against Taylor last week; then he better eat his Wheaties before a fight with Calzaghe because his brain will overload trying to box with Joe. I think Joe has a good chin, but he's not dumb enough to trade with Kelly, and will, like Mick said, box circles, squares and rectangles around PavMan. Would be a helluva fight to have happen though.
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
Im just not sold on Pavlik yet. As people have said hes exciting to watch and yeh he seems a likeable guy but from what Ive seen so far he doesnt seem anything too amazing. I doubt we'll see anyone knock him out anytime soon but anyone with a decent workrate could outbox him over 12 just so long as they've got the chin to take a few on the way.
I've noticed there hasnt been much call for it yet and Im actually surprised but I would fancy Arthur Abraham over Pavlik if they were to fight. Anyone with me on that?
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Re: He's a bit crude, Pavlik, and doesn't do anything exceptional," Calzaghe said
beerjelly problem with that is there isn't many boxers around that are capable of outboxing pavlik a whole 12 rounds sooner or later punches would land, there is even fewer with a chin good enough to withstand the punishment he dishes out I think. Abraham from what I have seen of him is to tenative for someone like pavlik and would probably get kod or tkod in the later rounds, but who knows the guy fought 7 rounds with a broken jaw so we know he's tough as nails. Certainly would be a good fight and I'd much rather see that than the proposed duddy fight. Do lean towards calzaghe outboxing him over 12 rounds though if it ever happened.
