Was it just me or was Wlad Klitchsko scared to hell to throw a right hand??

Okay I give the fight 120-108 to Wlad, Sultan IMO did nothing but one thing that annoyed me was Wlad not throwing his right hand. He was scared all night to get countered and when he did throw it Sultan was wobbled by it and he could have easily knocked Sultan out in there but he was just too cautious IMO. BTW his jab was amazing throughout.

Anybody agree with me ??

klitschko wanted to do a 1-2 jab straight right



he threw the jab and when it landed flush sultan would move down and to klitschkos right, and raise his left hand, he would be in another spot by the time klitschko was ready to throw the follow-up right and klitschko didnt want to risk missing and getting countered, sultan is capable of landing very hard shots against tall opponent5s, and the type of lunging shot he would have thrown to try to counter a missed straight right is the type of punch that would have a good chance of taking klitschko off balance




people are acting like sultan was no threat, like he couldnt take a right hand from klitschko and like he wouldnt be able to put a dangerous counter together, klitschko fought like he usually does, and sultans stance lead to klitschko not having a clear path to land the right after he pulled back the jab

He stated in a post fight interview that his right left him off balance after throwing in, which was why he only wanted to use it when he was pretty sure it would land.

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Afterwards the victorious Ukrainian said he didn't want to risk throwing his right more and missing.
"I had to make sure I would land them," said Klitschko. "If I would miss I would lose the balance and it's hard to get back.
"I thought I was going to knock this guy out - it wasn't easy. I know you're not satisfied, but I have to keep the belts and knock everybody else out."



quote from the BBC

It was a matter of styles...Wladimir's right cross has lots of power behind it and had he missed it he would have been off balance and Sultan would have countered him and knocked him down.

Had Wladimir thrown a left hook more often he might have found it easier to throw the right cross.


Even the Klitschko fans are disappointed of HOW Wladimir won but they are happy THAT he won.

Wlad played it smart with a dangerous fighter. Sultan arose to the level needed to pull off a win but Wlad being very cautious never gave him the opening he needed and at the same time Sultan was also being cautious not to get ko'd by the right .

I respect it like hell when a fan of a fighter can say: "My fighter looked like shit last night." Unfortunately, it doesn't happen very often.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

I respect it like hell when a fan of a fighter can say: "My fighter looked like shit last night." Unfortunately, it doesn't happen very often.

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...it's more than you'll get from a Mayweather Jr. fan ;D

Mistake to say that Wlad was scared. Maybe 'cautious' but not scared. His trainer and Vitali were telling him to throw the right more but he didn't, because it seemed to me he knows that if Sultan had caught him on the chin clean, it would of done damage.

He went in, owned the fight, and won. That's what counts.

I think he was being careful because against other guys Sultan was very good at timing their jab and countering it with a hard left hand. I think Wlad should have pulled it out more after the sixth round, but he never seemed to find the right rhythym to throw it repeadedly.

Sultan is no push over he can adapt to any fighter and any style so Wlad had to be cautious and Sultan had to be very awkward last night for obvious reasons.

he won the fight without hardly throwing the right hand because he didn't need to throw it, he won it with a jab alone

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Originally Posted by ds91

he won the fight without hardly throwing the right hand because he didn't need to throw it, he won it with a jab alone

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Very well put :appl: rep to ya.

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Originally Posted by ds91

he won the fight without hardly throwing the right hand because he didn't need to throw it, he won it with a jab alone

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While that is true, I know I for one don't want that to become a habit with him.


But he must be doing something right, he's getting the same flack Lennox Lewis got when he first became champion

Lyle Wlad Klitchsko done awful IMO, he is a disgrace if he's scared to throw a right hand all night :rolleyes:

He looked so panicky in there that's bad for boxing.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Lyle Wlad Klitchsko done awful IMO, he is a disgrace if he's scared to throw a right hand all night :rolleyes:

He looked so panicky in there that's bad for boxing.

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He wasn't "panicky" he was measured in his approach which is why he won the fight. He was a little too measured but hey it beats him having to pick himself off the canvas.

You jump on a southpaw with power and maybe this is what you get...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YboPBVOHn9Q


Southpaws cause more trouble in fights than excitement

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Originally Posted by Lyle

He wasn't "panicky" he was measured in his approach which is why he won the fight. He was a little too measured but hey it beats him having to pick himself off the canvas.

You jump on a southpaw with power and maybe this is what you get...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YboPBVOHn9Q


Southpaws cause more trouble in fights than excitement

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IMO he was panicky, he was scared to shit to get countered and I mean SCARED TO SHIT and so just few a few jabs now and again :rolleyes:.

Well fine...some fighters don't like to fight certain styles....the fact Wladimir was able to win as big as he did is a testament to how much he has learned when fighting a counterpunching southpaw.

Now had Sultan been a little taller maybe it would have helped Sultan's offense or maybe Sultan wouldn't have been able to hide from that right hand so well. Sultan was in a crouch the entire fight, waiting to catch Wlad off balance.

It wasn't Wlad's best effort but hell his whole career isn't defined by this fight vs Sultan.

I thought it was boring as shit but... I thought Wlad did a good job not allowing him in... I didn't like that slapping bull cuz I thought it'd wear out his jab but it didn't... I thought that jabbing would have been a better course to take then slapping away Sultan's hand but, hey... It worked.

Overall Wlad pitched a virtual shutout... Can't really hate on a guy for doing that...

I mean really.... C'mon. why throw the right and put yourself in danger when you can bust a guy up from range.

Maybe he was scared to throw it but hell, he boxed the socks off Ibrag.:-X

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Lyle Wlad Klitchsko done awful IMO, he is a disgrace if he's scared to throw a right hand all night :rolleyes:

He looked so panicky in there that's bad for boxing.

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Look at it from Wlad's perspective the road was too long and hard to throw it all away on an easy win. He won with the jab and that also disappointed Sultan because he was wanting Wlad to overextend himself but Wlad didn't fall for it,think about it, Sultan came into the ring with the WBO belt 22 wins 17 kos everyone keeps overlooking Sultan and he is not one to overlook.I say Sultan is alot better than anyone wants to admit and he will make other top fighters look the same way and win at the same time.

Biggest fight of his life,fans cheering him on,practically pleading with him to give them something to cheer about,an opponent beaten within the first 3 rounds and what does he do,jab,hold like a bitch whenever Sultan comes ANYWHERE NEAR him and doesn't throw anything bar the jab for 95% of the fight. It was a golden chance for the HW to get some respect,especially Wladimir. Sultan was beaten i round 3 already. Shocking fight,rerrible performance. Sure,he won but this was a chance to really get the HW back on the map and give the fans something to cheer for.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Biggest fight of his life,fans cheering him on,practically pleading with him to give them something to cheer about,an opponent beaten within the first 3 rounds and what does he do,jab,hold like a bitch whenever Sultan comes ANYWHERE NEAR him and doesn't throw anything bar the jab for 95% of the fight. It was a golden chance for the HW to get some respect,especially Wladimir. Sultan was beaten i round 3 already. Shocking fight,rerrible performance. Sure,he won but this was a chance to really get the HW back on the map and give the fans something to cheer for.

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It's sad, really...

The Sweet Science site put up an interview with Larry Merchant about this fight, where he basically said Ibragimov, not Wlad, should be getting the (dis)credit for the nature of the fight.

I agree with his take. I mean, Ibragimov wasn't trying to win the fight at all. He was in there solely to see if Klitschko would miss wide so he could land a huge haymaker.

Why would Wlad do the ONE thing that could lose him the fight? Maybe Wlad is too smart for his own good, but as I'm sure others have said, as bad as he looked, he would've looked a lot worse sprawled out on the canvas.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Okay I give the fight 120-108 to Wlad, Sultan IMO did nothing but one thing that annoyed me was Wlad not throwing his right hand. He was scared all night to get countered and when he did throw it Sultan was wobbled by it and he could have easily knocked Sultan out in there but he was just too cautious IMO. BTW his jab was amazing throughout.

Anybody agree with me ??

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Well Leftie Wlad was gunshy for a number of reasons , 1. he realised he could win easily with the JAB.
2. He had huge advantages in reach and size.
3. After 3 KO defeats he will always be wary of getting hit on the chin.

But id have liked to see him try for the KO , i think Vitali would have stopped SuLTAN AS HE DOESNT MIND A TEAR UP :)

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Originally Posted by uptoscratch

The Sweet Science site put up an interview with Larry Merchant about this fight, where he basically said Ibragimov, not Wlad, should be getting the (dis)credit for the nature of the fight.

I agree with his take. I mean, Ibragimov wasn't trying to win the fight at all. He was in there solely to see if Klitschko would miss wide so he could land a huge haymaker.

Why would Wlad do the ONE thing that could lose him the fight? Maybe Wlad is too smart for his own good, but as I'm sure others have said, as bad as he looked, he would've looked a lot worse sprawled out on the canvas.

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Very true, I like your post you've done well.

"Styles Make Fights" and Sultan tried jumping on Wlad and he tried waiting on a missed right cross....nothing worked for him and it made for a bad looking fight. Had Wladimir looked to land the left hook it might have been a better more exciting outcome.

This isn't the first or the last time Wladimir will get crap because of his performance.....but it is eriely similar to the crap Lennox Lewis had to go through but one signature KO (a la Lewis-Rahman II) would put Wladimir right with the boxing world