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While many were focused on Klitchko-Ibragimov, I had my attention on the Juan Manuel Lopez-Jonathan Oquendo fight. "Juanma" looked devastating in defeating a top prospect as Oquendo. He definitely has the skill AND the power to be a champion at super bantamweight. I think he can take on de Leon now and ibox circles around him and in about a year should challenge Vazquez/Marquez, and the other top names at 122.
I hope we can count Juanma among our WC very soon. He has to be very careful with De Leon who has a lot of power. But, if he makes an intelligent fight, I believe he has chances of winning, even by TKO.
Lopez is an outstanding prospect. But I think he suffers the same fate Rey Bautista did if they put him in with De Leon right now
i think i remember seeing this guy like a year or two ago but havent heard much from him since. He is a bit impressive and at the time when i first saw him. I already thought by now he'd have his name out there with the big boys of the batamweight.
Lopez was awesome... the way he handled top prospect Jonathan Oquendo with ease. After watching the whole fight card, which was very good, I watched the Klitschko fight (which I had TVO'ed)... and promptly put myself to sleep.
Lopez has no business right now stepping in a ring with PDL. The kids got a future and if he want's to be sucessful he needs to mature his game and keep stepping up in class of opponents.
JuanMa needs to fight some of these guys before challenging for a title.
Genaro Garcia
Mike Oliver
Kiko Martinez
Fernando Beltran Jr.
I would like to see JuanMa fight Takalani Ndlovu to see how he handles a World Class opponent.
If you haven't seen much of Lopez, he has a lot going for him as a boxer:
1. He is a southpaw.
2. He has a great jab.
3. He has power in BOTH hands.
4. He has speed.
5. He has great defense/elusiveness.
6. He has an extensive amateur career.
6. He has been in there with tough guys (I compare his competition to the way Cotto was brought up, but of course, on a lesser scale).
Someone like de Leon, whose wide punches, though powerful, can be seen from a mile away, will get beaten to the punch every single time, and with Lopez's power, suffer a great deal of punishment. So Arum should just continue to raise Juanma's level of competition and keep bringing him along. He has the goods-he's no fluke!!
I've seen 14 of his 21 fights. The last 14 so I've seen plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican
I gotta disagree on some of the words you use. I have issues when people use some words like; great, bum, robbed.
JuanMa has a good jab, Wladdy has a great jab.
JuanMa has a good jab, Jr. Jones had a great jab.
JuanMa has a good jab, Holmes had a great jab.
I still see JuanMa as a prospect. I stopped blowing smoke up boxers ass too early in their careers as I learned my lesson when I was hailing 'Panchito' Bojado as the next big thing. Believe here Rican I like JuanMa as a boxer the kids got talent but I just feel it'll be too much to soon.
;) I agree with you CutMeMick and i share your opinion , but Juanma with Ponce de Leon have a chance , i saw some videos fight of De Leon and he has very poor defense and slow, there both are good southpaw and hard pucher , but for me Juanma surpass him in that skills , is interesting to see what will happen in that fight like TitoFan said...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I see you left out chin. De Leon is the last person you want a fighter finding out if he has a chin against.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican
Bautista had speed and skills over PDL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho
The talk was that Reys speed would give PDL problems.
By any means Am I comparing Rey to JuanMa I'm just saying that talent is only a part of it. You still gotta get in the ring and execute it.
I would be scared to put ANYONE in the ring with Ponce De Leon simply because he has power that would carry 5 divisions above him.
However, Juan Manuel Lopez time to become a star has to come eventually. The guy is just to good. I haven't yet seen him and not been blown away. His main problem is that he knows he's good and sometimes he'll just walk straight forward or not create space for his punches.
2008 should be the year of JML, I thought 2007 was going to be. 122 is a stacked division but he has the potential to run right through it especially after letting Vazquez and Marquez beat the hell out of each other.
One of the most explosive fighters in all of boxing right now, I think JML is a P4P star one day.
I've been saying it for some time now. Juanma will beat Pnce de Leon. He is the future of the division.
Maybe I should clarify myself here.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
I don't see JuanMa beating PDL anytime soon.
JuanMas got 21 fights under his belt his best opponent is D Class opponent. I say he fights some C and B Class opponents then we'll see how he handles a World Champion.
If JuanMa can continue to win and step up his quality of opposition I would see no means to say "He can't beat PDL".... IF he can do that...
Good/great jab, you're nitpicking. The kid has an effective jab and the skills needed to follow up on the jab unlike Klitchko, who was scared to follow the jab with his right for fear of getting hit with Sultan's quick and powerful left. See, Klitchko barely had the speed/defense to evade that left after the right, but Juanma has the speed to avoid any counter.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
In addition, Juanma is 21-0 and though I wouldn't throw him in against the likes of Vazquez/Marquez just yet, against PDL, I wouldn't mind. Juanma's got to step up sometime and PDL is a beatable opponent. PDL can defeat brawlers easily enough, but against skilled boxers/counterpuchers, he has a more difficlut time.
Finally, I have seen 17 of Juanma's 21 fights, most in person in Puerto Rico, MSG, Mohegan Sun, and Chicago ;)
And you been wrong for some time now tooQuote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
That was a great performance by Lopez!!! Oquendo was a solid guy, hopefully we'll see Lopez in against top competition soon...
It would be a great fight but 2 things:diss Ponce all you want(he is very very flawed but he has 2 things few have out there combined:P4P power and a rock solid jaw. And Juanma has not faced anyone with either of those 2. Don't get me wrong,I like the look of him but put him in with Ponce now and he loses imo.The only guys who have been able to beat Ponce/make him look bad are guys with like 10 inch height advantage(Celestino) and counter punchers who are rugged(Penelosa) or just look to survive and run(Ponce's last fight). At some point,if they were to fight,Juanma would get overly confident,stand and trade and he would lose that battle.
Give Juanma a few fights with guys with either really good power or solid chins,let's see how well he fares and mayeb then he should fight Ponce. Don't make the mistake Boom Boom did!;)
i've seen a few of this guys fight and he a real good prospect
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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Originally Posted by amat
What an excellent post this is. Good job buddy, I wish I could send some rep your way, just an all around great post I look forward to reading more from you. Completely agree. Good stuff.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say Lopez by first round Knockout.
Look guys, I did it too. ;D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gyrokai
I'm just teasin' :)