Pavlik welcomes Wright's challenge
PAVLIK WELCOMES WRIGHT'S CHALLENGE
"Winky is somebody I've been calling out and he didn't want to fight me. Now that I have the belts, they want to make the fight because it's a money fight and he's not a draw. Now I've got the belts and now he's starting to run his mouth just for the payday that comes with the fight, but I would love to fight him."
"If he can barely handle Jermain Taylor and his shots, what makes him think he could do something different if I fight him? I'd take the fight in a heartbeat. I've just come off fighting guys who are big, strong and can hit. I would love to fight a guy like Winky because he's not a devastating puncher. He's obviously a great boxer and a great fighter; he's accomplished a lot, but I would definitely love to fight him."
"I would love to see how he beats me with his peek-a-boo style. I go a hard twelve rounds."
"Winky Wright, let's see if you want to do this. The only thing I see being a problem is the money and how much he wants. I knocked Jermain Taylor out in the seventh round and I fought him again and beat him again. I didn't barely squeak by or escape with a draw."
Personally, I think a fight with Abraham would be more entertaining...but I wouldn't mind seeing Pavlik beat up on that turtle shell. LOL.
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This has gotta happen now. C'mon lets make the fight happen. If Winky loses, then he really needs to stop turning down the fights against the likes of Abraham and Kessler.
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PAVLIK WELCOMES WRIGHT'S CHALLENGE
"Winky is somebody I've been calling out and he didn't want to fight me. Now that I have the belts, they want to make the fight because it's a money fight and he's not a draw. Now I've got the belts and now he's starting to run his mouth just for the payday that comes with the fight, but I would love to fight him."
"If he can barely handle Jermain Taylor and his shots, what makes him think he could do something different if I fight him? I'd take the fight in a heartbeat. I've just come off fighting guys who are big, strong and can hit. I would love to fight a guy like Winky because he's not a devastating puncher. He's obviously a great boxer and a great fighter; he's accomplished a lot, but I would definitely love to fight him."
"I would love to see how he beats me with his peek-a-boo style. I go a hard twelve rounds."
"Winky Wright, let's see if you want to do this. The only thing I see being a problem is the money and how much he wants. I knocked Jermain Taylor out in the seventh round and I fought him again and beat him again. I didn't barely squeak by or escape with a draw."
Personally, I think a fight with Abraham would be more entertaining...but I wouldn't mind seeing Pavlik beat up on that turtle shell. LOL.
Winky is a dangerius fight for anybody... When push comes to shove though Pavlik will end up outworking Wright.
I agree Abraham would be more entertaining...
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Winky is my man, but he KO's no one...
He could not stand up to the jack hammer blows of Pavlik. There is a fight were Winky gets KD'd five times or so, en route to his first or second loss. I think this fight would be a mirror image of that one.
He gets pummeled, but keeps getting back up. In the long haul, I can easily say that Pavlik will permanently DAMAGE Winky in a showdown.
Good payday, bad health choice.
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I don't see why this fight has to happen. Kelly can unify with Sturm and then AA and then move up. Wright should at least have to beat a semi decent challenger first. And Kelly is totally correct. Winky wasn't calling out Pavlik before. Now Pavlik is becoming a name,Winky wants in. I don't see it happening and neither does Bob Arum.
IF Bob lets this fight happen(which doesn't appear likely,see his interview at boxingtalk) I've said it in the past and Ill say it again, Kelly wins,via stopapge or wide points for me. To beat Pavlik you need lateral movement imo. And power would help too. Winky has neither. He has an awesome jab but pitty patty punches. He's going to be right in front of Kelly and Kelly is no Trinidad,just because you block a few punches' he's not going to stop throwwing those monstrous right hands.
I see Wright starting off well but Kelly finding his groove in the 4th before overpowering and outpunching Wright.He's too big,too strong and hits too hard for Winky.
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ArawakWarria
Winky is my man, but he KO's no one...
He could not stand up to the jack hammer blows of Pavlik. There is a fight were Winky gets KD'd five times or so, en route to his first or second loss. I think this fight would be a mirror image of that one.
He gets pummeled, but keeps getting back up. In the long haul, I can easily say that Pavlik will permanently DAMAGE Winky in a showdown.
Good payday, bad health choice.
hmmmm... Knocked down 5 times? Have you seen a Winky fight?
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El Gamo
I don't see why this fight has to happen. Kelly can unify with Sturm and then AA and then move up. Wright should at least have to beat a semi decent challenger first. And Kelly is totally correct. Winky wasn't calling out Pavlik before. Now Pavlik is becoming a name,Winky wants in. I don't see it happening and neither does Bob Arum.
IF Bob lets this fight happen(which doesn't appear likely,see his interview at boxingtalk) I've said it in the past and Ill say it again, Kelly wins,via stopapge or wide points for me. To beat Pavlik you need lateral movement imo. And power would help too. Winky has neither. He has an awesome jab but pitty patty punches. He's going to be right in front of Kelly and Kelly is no Trinidad,just because you block a few punches' he's not going to stop throwwing those monstrous right hands.
I see Wright starting off well but Kelly finding his groove in the 4th before overpowering and outpunching Wright.He's too big,too strong and hits too hard for Winky.
There is no point to unifying the middleweight division because we all know that there is only one real champion at 160 anywways and that's Pavlik. I wouldn't mind seeing a fight with Abraham but anytime you can get two top 10 P4P guys (arguably) in the ring together then it's hard to argue against that fight being made.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
hmmmm... Knocked down 5 times? Have you seen a Winky fight?
YES WINKY WAS KNOCKED DOWN MULTIPLE TIMES IN A LIGHT MIDDLE TITLE FIGHT AGAINEST - Julio Caesar Vasquez of Argentina but lasted the full 12 rounds , i dont think anyone else has ever floor Winky.
:)
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
hmmmm... Knocked down 5 times? Have you seen a Winky fight?
Edit, Dark Lord Al Beat me to it.
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Dark Lord Al
YES WINKY WAS KNOCKED DOWN MULTIPLE TIMES IN A LIGHT MIDDLE TITLE FIGHT AGAINEST - Julio Caesar Vasquez of Argentina but lasted the full 12 rounds , i dont think anyone else has ever floor Winky.
:)
5 to 7 though? Al... you don't believe that'll happen at this point do you?:rolleyes:
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I saw a clip of that fight and Winky's defense was nowhere near where it is now. He also looked pretty exhausted and crestfallen. I'd like to see the fight. I don't think Pavlik automatically wins it. Pavlik comes forward, but Wright never looked rattled by Taylor's power. Winky had faster hands than Jermain, Jermain had faster hands than Kelly- perhaps Winky will blunt some of Kelly's power with his speed. And let's be honest- Winky beat Jermain.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
5 to 7 though? Al... you don't believe that'll happen at this point do you?:rolleyes:
I really dont know with Winky i mean Vasquez was crude but got to him , and since then Winky's chin has been top notch , personally i dont think he deserves the match , he needs a good win to merit the challange , and i would love Pavlik to fight Arahams .
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Dark Lord Al
I really dont know with Winky i mean Vasquez was crude but got to him , and since then Winky's chin has been top notch , personally i dont think he deserves the match , he needs a good win to merit the challange , and i would love Pavlik to fight Arahams .
Outside of Germany, of course.
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liquid
Outside of Germany, of course.
Would be better , but i dont see Pavlik needibng the judges :)
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Dark Lord Al
I really dont know with Winky i mean Vasquez was crude but got to him , and since then Winky's chin has been top notch , personally i dont think he deserves the match , he needs a good win to merit the challange , and i would love Pavlik to fight Arahams .
I have to agree all the way around with all those statements...
Have some Rep. :)
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I disagree Amat. I rarely if ever see Winky on P4P lists these days. You make an excellent point about the titles and not needing unification but Pavlik wants to defend and unify them,so I'd rather see him do that. However,maybe I'm being a bit harsh becaus eI'm not a fan of Wright,maybe it's making me biased. I guess a Winky Kelly fight would at least be intriguing.
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amat
There is no point to unifying the middleweight division because we all know that there is only one real champion at 160 anywways and that's Pavlik. I wouldn't mind seeing a fight with Abraham but anytime you can get two top 10 P4P guys (arguably) in the ring together then it's hard to argue against that fight being made.
Exactly. The titles are unified. Hopkins picked them all up, lost to Taylor, who lost to Pavlik. Just because some of the alphabet gangs took there belts back and gave them to the highest bidder, does not un-unify the Middleweight title.
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Yeah,you guys are right.My bad.:(
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El Gamo
I disagree Amat. I rarely if ever see Winky on P4P lists these days. You make an excellent point about the titles and not needing unification but Pavlik wants to defend and unify them,so I'd rather see him do that. However,maybe I'm being a bit harsh becaus eI'm not a fan of Wright,maybe it's making me biased. I guess a Winky Kelly fight would at least be intriguing.
He should have never taken the Hopkins fight and should have gone after another MW title... He'd still be P4P... I would rather see Pavlik fight Abraham... Cuz he has the ability to. Wright Pavlik would be boring. Nevermind unwarrented. As Al said, what has he done to deserve a title shot right now?
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
As Al said, what has he done to deserve a title shot right now?
He fought the former champ to a draw, of course, and he's still The Ring #2 ranked middleweight contender, after Abraham.
Not that I'm itching to see this fight either, but I can see where Wright is coming from.
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With the quality of opposition Abraham has been fighting lately. I cannot see the fight happening unless:
1: Fight is in Germany
2: He gets paid a hundred million dollars.
3: Pavlik is forced to wear 100 ounce gloves and be blind folded.
That probably is not even because of Abraham, but ever since the Pantera fight, his management team have been protecting him big time.
The Winky fight might happen as long as Winky does not expect a 5 million + dollar payday. His stock is now reduced and he cannot demand a huge paycheck.
Winky is now 36 and inactive. His last two fights were not tough on him. Pavlik will be tough on him and will test his legs for sure. Can he go 12 against Pavlik? Possibly as he is crafty. But I can also see him in a even bigger defensive shell in the fight than he has ever been in.
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Edit: Wow I just found this at boxrec when looking up Abraham:
2008-06-07 ?
Madison Square Garden, New York City, New York, United States12
~ IBF middleweight title ~
bout subject to commission approval / change
He is coming to the US to fight. Interesting indeed.
