Witter calling Hatton's bluff

Hatton came out and said that Witter priced himself out by asking for 30%. Now I don't know what to believe because Witter just came out and said the following on BScene:

"I'll fight Hatton for peanuts."


"This is not about the money - it's personal," Witter said. "The pay-day is not even close to what I was getting for going out to America. I would have got well over twice as much to fight Demetrius Hopkins over there. But I'm prepared to take it just to knock Hatton out for his cheek. It might be all about greed with some people but not me. If that's what they think I'm worth then fine I'll take it just for the chance to finally put Hatton into retirement."


Mick Hennessy said: "I spoke to Golden Boy Promotions in the early hours today and they told me that the Lazcano deal was not done yet. So my understanding is there is no contract signed between the two; the venue is not sorted as of today; HBO (American TV giants) have not confirmed they are covering it and it's not the fight the paying public want to see - which is Witter v Hatton. Junior is happy to jump in and take up their peanuts offer because he isn't greedy."

Hatton is a little bitch if he doesn't take the fight now. There are no excuses. This guy has been feeding off of Tszyu's name for three fucking years. I don't understand how Hatton is acting like he's the king of boxing after he just got KTFO. Personally, I think Hatton has a good shot at winning but this blatant ducking is making me think Hatton doesn't think he can beat Witter.

Hatton fears Witter. That's become pretty obvious. All of Hatton's excuses are just that. Excuses. There is no good reason why Hatton won't fight Witter. Other than fear. Witter is ranked second in the 140 division. He has a title. And he's not over pricing himself. What's the fucking hold up?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Hatton fears Witter. That's become pretty obvious. All of Hatton's excuses are just that. Excuses. There is no good reason why Hatton won't fight Witter. Other than fear. Witter is ranked second in the 140 division. He has a title. And he's not over pricing himself. What's the fucking hold up?

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Well as much as i hate Witter , i must agree with you VD , this fight has to be made. Come on Ricky sign the contract.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Hatton fears Witter. That's become pretty obvious. All of Hatton's excuses are just that. Excuses. There is no good reason why Hatton won't fight Witter. Other than fear. Witter is ranked second in the 140 division. He has a title. And he's not over pricing himself. What's the fucking hold up?

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I dont often agree with your opinions but you are spot on here. WItter is pretty much considered the number 2 to Hatton in the light welters.
Hattons excuse for not fighting Witter cos he doesnt deserve the pay day doesnt wash with me.
After losing to Mayweather, Hatton stated fighting wasnt about the money, but the challenge. Well Ricky, the public consider Witter to be the biggest challenge in your division, so get the fight made, wipe Witter out and that will be the end of it.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Hatton fears Witter. That's become pretty obvious. All of Hatton's excuses are just that. Excuses. There is no good reason why Hatton won't fight Witter. Other than fear. Witter is ranked second in the 140 division. He has a title. And he's not over pricing himself. What's the fucking hold up?

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Yeah, this is somewhat ridiculous. Hatton should just fight the dude and put him in his "place" for being so "disrespectful" for years. If Witter will fight him for these peanuts, then what the hell is Hatton's problem?

I really liked Ricky, but he seems to think he's some sort of legend that can dictate everything to his own liking. This loss to Mayweather, IMO, has shaken his intestinal fortitude to some degree, and I wonder what he'll look like in his next fight. He can't avoid Witter forever, or even his die-hard fans will question him sooner or later.

Hatton WILL fight Witter, just when the time is right.

Why do you think he ain't fighting him this May??

Hatton is low in confidence from the loss whearas Witter has that style to cause Hatton problems and Witter is very confident and Hatton needs a win or two to get his confidence and belief back up and then Witter will get KNFO, it really is simple.

Hatton hasn't said he'll never fight him. Hatton pretty much said he will...just when he wants it.

I think if Ricky beats Paulie and Witter were to beat Rees or Torres, then Witter vs. Hatton will be massive.

I should point out though, that Witter is avoiding the fight with Wlad that I've been calling for for years.

In reality at this moment in time a fight with Witter would not be a smart move.
Ricky's style is well known, he uses every ounce of his physicality in order to win fights. Coming off a fight where he used everyhting he had only to be beaten, he has to have been feeling not only physically expended, but also emotionally and mentally drained.

It is therefore not unreasonable for him to take a confidence builder prior to stepping back in with legitimate world champions. Junior's style, although ion my opinion, not sufficient to beat Hatton, is capable of making Hatton look slow in Victory, is not a style Ricky want's to confront on anything less than a full tank and a equal reserve of confidence.
Fighters such as Zab Judah take booster fights after their losses in order to get up for greater fights, what makes my man Ricky any different?

I believe a fight with Witter should indeed happen, however Witter is foolish If he has indeed pulled out of a Hopkins fight as it would have been that win in my opinuion that would have secured him the Hatton fight with an adequate purse. Witter may indeed negotiate himself into a fight in which he fights for peanuts. That may be a plan of the Hatton team.


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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

In reality at this moment in time a fight with Witter would not be a smart move.
Ricky's style is well known, he uses every ounce of his physicality in order to win fights. Coming off a fight where he used everyhting he had only to be beaten, he has to have been feeling not only physically expended, but also emotionally and mentally drained.

It is therefore not unreasonable for him to take a confidence builder prior to stepping back in with legitimate world champions. Junior's style, although ion my opinion, not sufficient to beat Hatton, is capable of making Hatton look slow in Victory, is not a style Ricky want's to confront on anything less than a full tank and a equal reserve of confidence.
Fighters such as Zab Judah take booster fights after their losses in order to get up for greater fights, what makes my man Ricky any different?

I believe a fight with Witter should indeed happen, however Witter is foolish If he has indeed pulled out of a Hopkins fight as it would have been that win in my opinuion that would have secured him the Hatton fight with an adequate purse. Witter may indeed negotiate himself into a fight in which he fights for peanuts. That may be a plan of the Hatton team.


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Hopkins pulled out not Witter.

Says it all, Witter was getting over double the pay fighting Hopkins (if he hadn't bottled it) than what Hattons mob tried to fob him off with.. and he's still willing to take it :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Hopkins pulled out not Witter.

Says it all, Witter was getting over double the pay fighting Hopkins (if he hadn't bottled it) than what Hattons mob tried to fob him off with.. and he's still willing to take it :rolleyes:

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Sup Fen.
Hopkins pulled out?
Why was that, do you reckon he took the fight thionking witter was a walkover and on reflection he decided he'd better back off?

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Sup Fen.
Hopkins pulled out?
Why was that, do you reckon he took the fight thionking witter was a walkover and on reflection he decided he'd better back off?

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He had an argument with B-Hop and as a result D-Hop didn't want to be involved when B-Hop was. Promotional financial dispute. Boxing News said that anyways!

Hopkins fell out with his promoters Golden Boy.. so the fight couldn't happen. but then made out he never knew the Witter fight was planned anyway.. and best fight someone else

the fight will happen, hatton needs a confidence booster first and that booster is lazcano

Hopkins is a member of GBP (or was last time I looked)

BTW I miss read the thread title, I thought it said,

Witter calls Hatton buff :o

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Originally Posted by ds91

the fight will happen, hatton needs a confidence booster first and that booster is lazcano

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Problem with Lazcano is he lost to Castillo ( who Ricky destroyed ) and he also lost to Harris who Witter destroyed so its a sign how far Rickys fallen to take these kind of fights .

For teh record , I thought Rickys style would smother Witter and eventually hed wear Witter down but watching Witter vs Harris again I think he may do to Hatton what Floyd did especially when you consider he hits harder than the Yank .

There is something that hatton see's in witter that he doesn't want to deal with. I really just belive hatton does not think he can beat him for some reason.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Hatton WILL fight Witter, just when the time is right.

Why do you think he ain't fighting him this May??

Hatton is low in confidence from the loss whearas Witter has that style to cause Hatton problems and Witter is very confident and Hatton needs a win or two to get his confidence and belief back up and then Witter will get KNFO, it really is simple.

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I don't doubt that at all. Let Witter get older (he's already 34) and become less of a threat. Than Hatton will jump at the chance to face him. That way he can add another shot fighter to his resume. It follows his career pattern. Hatton ain't following nobody. His best wins are against fighters past there primes. The only 2 fighters Hatton fought that were in there prime (Mayweather and Collazo) kicked his ass.

Balls, how can you expect ricky to fight hatton after Mary Whatever? Ricky has just come from a loss to pfp champ. It would look like he ran off home for a domestic fight cause he couldn't hack it at international level.

Fuck Witter.

xcuse my french

Did anyone spot my typeo? I did, even after a couple of Geniuses!
Hatton can't be seen to run off with his tail between his legs after losing to Mary Whatever. To fight Witter next just wouldn't be a smart move. Get me another from the fridge wifey!

I'm a Wyslexic Danker by the way

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't doubt that at all. Let Witter get older (he's already 34) and become less of a threat. Than Hatton will jump at the chance to face him. That way he can add another shot fighter to his resume. It follows his career pattern. Hatton ain't following nobody. His best wins are against fighters past there primes. The only 2 fighters Hatton fought that were in there prime (Mayweather and Collazo) kicked his ass.

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As far as am concerned Collazo never kicked Hatton's ass, I admit Hatton nearly got KNFO in that last round but look at the way I used the word "Nearly" ;) beacuse it never happened. Hatton showed his determination and courage coming through that last round and despite him having a matter of weeks to train and the bout was at welterweight against a tricky southpaw, then for Hatton to win by UD and floor Collazo in the process is a big achievemnet.

I've got every Hatton fight on DVD and I've watched them all a number of times and where you say "He can add another shot fighter to his resume" is bullshit VD coz Hatton ain't fought nobody shot. Watch the Castillo fight again and notice how in the 3rd Castillo clearly won that round and so Hatton was not fully dominating going to the 4th round (Where he KO'd Castillo which Mayweather could not do in 24 rounds ;))

Carlos Maussa was in his prime after KO'ing Harris and only losing to Cotto on cuts yet Hatton KO'd him in 9.

Kosta Tzsyu destroyed Sharmba Mitchell 6/7 months before Hatton and was number 2 P4P so how on earth was he shot ??

Let's remmeber Hatton has fought 4 world champions (2 in a division where he ain't comfortable) and beat 3 of them KO'ing 2 and who has Witter fought ???

Witter only deserves a ring with Hatton to carry in his Ring Light-Welter belt ;D

You can say what you want about Hatton but he is the bravest boxer on the planet and that is a fact!!!

Floyd Mayweather had to use dirty tactics to beat Hatton, a natural 140 pounder, so what does that say about him??

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Originally Posted by Magoo

Balls, how can you expect ricky to fight hatton after Mary Whatever? Ricky has just come from a loss to pfp champ. It would look like he ran off home for a domestic fight cause he couldn't hack it at international level.

Fuck Witter.

xcuse my french

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Look what Kessler is doing......looking for the big fights. Rick is a great exiting fighter coming towards the end of his career due to his life outside the ring. He should fight Witter and prove his worth as the best at 140 because at 147 he is pretty much useless. If he needs to cement a legacy its to prove he was the best at 140 and 147 was too much for him.

Plus, when Mary Whatever looked in his pocket he found the Ref!

Give me a break. Hatton just fought the best fighter in the world, but somehow he's afraid of Junior who? I agree he should fight him, but let's not get carried away with all this "Ricky is so scared of Junior" nonsense. :rolleyes:

I believe that Hatton will fight Witter next year when he has a title. It should at that point be a unification bout.

As for Witter I can not believe Hopkins has pulled out. I think he knows he will be destroyed by Witter so has come out with the convenient promotional dispute excuse. What now for Witter?

He should forget hatton for now as I believe that Hatton's camp will try and make it next year if Witter is still WBC champ.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

As far as am concerned Collazo never kicked Hatton's ass, I admit Hatton nearly got KNFO in that last round but look at the way I used the word "Nearly" ;) beacuse it never happened. Hatton showed his determination and courage coming through that last round and despite him having a matter of weeks to train and the bout was at welterweight against a tricky southpaw, then for Hatton to win by UD and floor Collazo in the process is a big achievemnet.

I've got every Hatton fight on DVD and I've watched them all a number of times and where you say "He can add another shot fighter to his resume" is bullshit VD coz Hatton ain't fought nobody shot. Watch the Castillo fight again and notice how in the 3rd Castillo clearly won that round and so Hatton was not fully dominating going to the 4th round (Where he KO'd Castillo which Mayweather could not do in 24 rounds ;))

Carlos Maussa was in his prime after KO'ing Harris and only losing to Cotto on cuts yet Hatton KO'd him in 9.

Kosta Tzsyu destroyed Sharmba Mitchell 6/7 months before Hatton and was number 2 P4P so how on earth was he shot ??

Let's remmeber Hatton has fought 4 world champions (2 in a division where he ain't comfortable) and beat 3 of them KO'ing 2 and who has Witter fought ???

Witter only deserves a ring with Hatton to carry in his Ring Light-Welter belt ;D

You can say what you want about Hatton but he is the bravest boxer on the planet and that is a fact!!!

Floyd Mayweather had to use dirty tactics to beat Hatton, a natural 140 pounder, so what does that say about him??

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Mayweather used dirty tactics to beat Hatton ?? theres sour grapes then theres ridiculous, and your acting ridiculous now. Mayweather beat Hatton by neutralizing his offense on the inside, he also beat him with surperior boxing skills, it was a one sided affair and Hatton was totally outclassed end of. Hatton was doing his fair share of illegal tactics as well.

And as for Hatton's opponents, Carlos Maussa ?? please Maussa is terrible he was coming off taking a beating from Miguel Cotto, and i seem to remember Maussa recently got stopped in about 2 minutes ??

Jose Luis Castillo was at his best at Lightweight, before his fight with Hatton he looked like a shot fighter against Herman Ngoudjo.

Kostya Tszyu was 35 and had only fought like 3 times in 3 years.

Oh and by the way Luis Collazo was considered an easy opponent for Hatton, Collazo was virtually unknown and if you look back at old posts on this forum 95 percent were predicting an easy quick win for Hatton.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Hatton WILL fight Witter, just when the time is right.

Why do you think he ain't fighting him this May??

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Because he's waiting for Witter to start slipping. The moment Witter doesnt have that aura of invincibility Hatton will fight him. Sad thing is if Witter has a rough time in his next fight then it will take some steam off the fight

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Originally Posted by ICB

Mayweather used dirty tactics to beat Hatton ?? theres sour grapes then theres ridiculous, and your acting ridiculous now. Mayweather beat Hatton by neutralizing his offense on the inside, he also beat him with surperior boxing skills, it was a one sided affair and Hatton was totally outclassed end of. Hatton was doing his fair share of illegal tactics as well.

Watch Danny's vids he posted and then come back to me as the only one who is acting ridiculous is you!!!

And as for Hatton's opponents, Carlos Maussa ?? please Maussa is terrible he was coming off taking a beating from Miguel Cotto, and i seem to remember Maussa recently got stopped in about 2 minutes ??

Did not Victor Ortiz beat Maussa years after the Hatton fight and after Maussa had a long layoff?? I think so and Cotto only beat him on cuts as well.

Jose Luis Castillo was at his best at Lightweight, before his fight with Hatton he looked like a shot fighter against Herman Ngoudjo.

Just because Ngoudjo gave Castillo problems does'nt mean he looked shot and he handled him with more ease than Malignaggi did a few months ago.

Kostya Tszyu was 35 and had only fought like 3 times in 3 years.

And ?? he was still a major threat and number 2 P4P unlike when PBF fought a 35yr old part-timer in ODLH and ODLH were'nt even in P4P top ten or even P4P 15.

Oh and by the way Luis Collazo was considered an easy opponent for Hatton, Collazo was virtually unknown and if you look back at old posts on this forum 95 percent were predicting an easy quick win for Hatton.

Well then everybody undrsestimated Collazo just like Hatton did, but he still won a UD and floored Collazo in the process on his first time to welter and Floyd had to fight a shot Sharma Mitchell on his first step up ;)

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ICB you really are a Hatton hater so no matter what I say it won't make any difference ;) I admit I'm a Floyd hater but I've got worthy reasons for it.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Because he's waiting for Witter to start slipping. The moment Witter doesnt have that aura of invincibility Hatton will fight him. Sad thing is if Witter has a rough time in his next fight then it will take some steam off the fight

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hatton is coming off a brutal KO loss. Its only sensible for him to pick a tune up, Its what any other top level boxer would do. Let's just shut it on the whole "He's a big chicken and ducking Witter" crap. :rolleyes:

He just fought the best on the planet and by giving up any natural advantages. If he wants a tune up then so be it. Hatton is really no coward.

I don't know why this has become such a big topic, I mean I get why it is in Britain but why it has become such a big deal to American fans is beyond me. When did everybody become so interested in Junior Witter :confused: I must have missed it. Unless its just a way to call Hatton a bitch.

I mean I'd watch it but its not like I'd be counting down the days in anticipation, its not Vasquez-Marquez 3 although strangely enough its discussed more than Vasquez-Marquez 3.

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

Hatton hasn't said he'll never fight him. Hatton pretty much said he will...just when he wants it.

I think if Ricky beats Paulie and Witter were to beat Rees or Torres, then Witter vs. Hatton will be massive.

I should point out though, that Witter is avoiding the fight with Wlad that I've been calling for for years.

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I think that's completely untrue.. Maybe Hatton will need another win in order to get people excited, maybe... But I don't think it matters who Witter beats, the fight is already as big as it's going to be.. The 140 division just doesn't have any names that draw much public interest, besides Hatton. And that's why he feels like he can fight whatever bums he wants.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

ICB you really are a Hatton hater so no matter what I say it won't make any difference ;) I admit I'm a Floyd hater but I've got worthy reasons for it.

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You keep saying this but you never back up these so called *Hatton hater* comments from me. Name one bit in my comment that was hating ?? all my comments were facts about each opposition. So is telling the truth hating now ??

I have told you time and time again that i do not hate Hatton and then you say *Ok ICB*. But when a Hatton topic gets brought up again you say im a Hatton hater because i have a different opinion, but in this case i told facts about each of Hatton's opposition, if you class that as hating thats up to you.

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Originally Posted by ICB

You keep saying this but you never back up these so called *Hatton hater* comments from me. Name one bit in my comment that was hating ?? all my comments were facts about each opposition. So is telling the truth hating now ??

I have told you time and time again that i do not hate Hatton and then you say *Ok ICB*. But when a Hatton topic gets brought up again you say im a Hatton hater because i have a different opinion, but in this case i told facts about each of Hatton's opposition, if you class that as hating thats up to you.

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As for as I'm concerned I ain't seen you make a positive Hatton post, just criticism of him and if somebody does that, well then for me personally that make them a hater.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

As for as I'm concerned I ain't seen you make a positive Hatton post, just criticism of him and if somebody does that, well then for me personally that make them a hater.

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You saying I'm a Hatton hater?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

You saying I'm a Hatton hater?

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I don't think you are a Hatton hater, I feel you do it to wind me up :) I may be wrong.

Lefty; I hate to speak for another person, but you can almost take it to the bank VD despises Hatton. Winding you up is probably just a bonus for ole' dude;D

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I don't think you are a Hatton hater, I feel you do it to wind me up :) I may be wrong.

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I don't dislike Hatton. I just hate him

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't dislike Hatton. I just hate him

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May i ask why G-MAN ?????

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

May i ask why G-MAN ?????

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I think he's one of boxings most overrated fighters. Kostya Tsyzu and Jose Luis Castillo look good on his record. But anybody that believes they were still in there prime doesn't really know boxing. They were shot. Even lesser name fighters that he beat were old when he beat them. Vince Phillips, Freddie Pendelton, Ben Tackie and Rey Olivera. Other than that he's beaten garbage fighters. Michael Stewart? Dennis Pederson, Carlos Vilches? Come on now. The only 2 prime fighters he faced kicked his ass (Mayweather and Collazo). What's Hatton doing now? He's facing another shot fight in Lazcano. And avoiding a visible threat in Witter

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't dislike Hatton. I just hate him

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Okay then I was wrong, you definitely are a Hatton hater ;D