Where Does Israel Vasquez Now Rank In The Top 10 P4P ??

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Bernard Hopkins
4 Joe Calzaghe
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz
11 Kelly Pavlik
12 Winky Wright
13 Ricky Hatton
14 Joan Guzman
15 Jermain Taylor
16 Shane Mosley
17 Mikkel Kessler
18 Christian Mijares
19 Wladimir Klitschko
20 Chris John

This was my list before there fight, but where does he rank now or should he stay where he is thoughts ??
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1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Bernard Hopkins
4 Joe Calzaghe
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz
11 Kelly Pavlik
12 Winky Wright
13 Ricky Hatton
14 Joan Guzman
15 Jermain Taylor
16 Shane Mosley
17 Mikkel Kessler
18 Christian Mijares
19 Wladimir Klitschko
20 Chris John

This was my list before there fight, but where does he rank now or should he stay where he is thoughts ??
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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Juan Diaz
10. Ivan Calderon



That's how I see it.

I don't see any reason for him to try and move up in weight because he could most likely dominate where he's at right now for a couple more years. More than likely (hopefully) we're going to see Vasquez vs. Marquez 4. Probably as the top fight on an undercard for a big PPV.

I don't know where he ranks in the top 10.
All I can say is that Israel Vazquez is THE MAN! He's got as big of heart as any fighter who has ever steppin in the ring. Wow! That 12th round he came out like a man posessed.
Great, Great, Great fight!

I rank him right in the middle of the pack--#5.....

My top 10 gores pretty much

1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Bernard Hopkins

3. Joe Calzaghe

4. Manny Pacquiao

5. Israel Vazquez

6. Chris John

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Ivan Calderon

9. Rafael Marquez

10. Miguel Cotto

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Juan Manuel Marquez
5 Miguel Cotto
6 Kelly Pavlik
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Bernard Hopkins
10 Ricky Hatton

Watching Vasquez-Larios 2 live you could not have made me believe Vasquez would eventually be a top P4P guy. I mean he was a good fighter, but P4P no way.

Anyway I don't really do P4P lists but I would say 5-7 maybe.

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I rank him right in the middle of the pack--#5.....

My top 10 gores pretty much

1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Bernard Hopkins

3. Joe Calzaghe

4. Manny Pacquiao

5. Israel Vazquez

6. Chris John

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Ivan Calderon

9. Rafael Marquez

10. Miguel Cotto

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Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

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Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

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Agreed. But then, that's just somebody's opinion.

I would go berserk if the Ring puts John in the top 10 though.

1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Israel Vazquez
6) Joe Calzaghe
7) Kelly Pavlik
8) Miguel Cotto
9) Rafel Marquez
10) Ivan Calderon

I had Vasquez just entering the last time I composed a list, he's certainly Top ten in my estimation

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1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Israel Vazquez
6) Joe Calzaghe
7) Kelly Pavlik
8) Miguel Cotto
9) Rafel Marquez
10) Ivan Calderon

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good list but i'll still put hatton above ivan, hatton has only lost to the number 1 p4p :rolleyes:. Ivan is skilled but he ain't never fought any fighter like koysta or castillo who imo beat floyd ones.

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Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

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Why not? He has not been beat in his 10 year career...The closest he has come to defeat is a SD 5 years ago...9 defenses of his WBA title...And it matters none if JMM has beaten better fighters fact is he has not beaten John....People tend to forget about guys that don't get TV exposure as much as the mainstream guys...John is a legit P4P fighter that sits on top of a talented division there are other names I could question on anyones list...At least John has yet to proved not worthy

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Why is Chris John so high? He's not in any mainstream lists at all. I respect that he edged out JMM like a year or so ago, but JMM has defeated much greater fighters than John has.

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exactly thats a dissapointing list daxx

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Why not? He has not been beat in his 10 year career...The closest he has come to defeat is a SD 5 years ago...9 defenses of his WBA title...And it matters none if JMM has beaten better fighters fact is he has not beaten John....People tend to forget about guys that don't get TV exposure as much as the mainstream guys...John is a legit P4P fighter that sits on top of a talented division there are other names I could question on anyones list...At least John has yet to proved not worthy

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come on daxx, john is pathetic the guy didn't beat jmm. Jmm a known counter puncher had to chase that monkey around cause the guy barely threw at jmm. Jmm won that fight, john is a protected fraud. being undefeated doesn't matter unless your floyd who imo has beaten way better opponent then john has even seen let alone fought. the guy doesn't sit on his division he just sits in his country. Pretending to be the best in the world but he never set foot outside his land. Cotto is undefeated and he has beaten the likes of shane mosley but yet you have cotto below this clown? come on daxx, this is one post i can not learn from you cause it is wrong :mad::p

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come on daxx, john is pathetic the guy didn't beat jmm. Jmm a known counter puncher had to chase that monkey around cause the guy barely threw at jmm. Jmm won that fight, john is a protected fraud. being undefeated doesn't matter unless your floyd who imo has beaten way better opponent then john has even seen let alone fought. the guy doesn't sit on his division he just sits in his country. Pretending to be the best in the world but he never set foot outside his land. Cotto is undefeated and he has beaten the likes of shane mosley but yet you have cotto below this clown? come on daxx, this is one post i can not learn from you cause it is wrong :mad::p

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Opinion's vary mate...Sorry I am not living up to your expectations as a poster:(...I will banish myself from the forum in shame:eek:

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. JM Marquez
4. Calzaghe
5. Hopkins
6. Cotto
7. Vazquez

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Opinion's vary mate...Sorry I am not living up to your expectations as a poster:(...I will banish myself from the forum in shame:eek:

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NO DAXX!!!!




we need you!!!



I take it back, its the best list ever.

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

NO DAXX!!!!




we need you!!!



I take it back, its the best list ever.

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Now you are patronizing me:mad:

Seriously though a big reason John is over looked is because there are little fights of his seen in mainstream....He is a damn good fighter

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rz0BJhPctZQ

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ricky Hatton

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Originally Posted by ds91

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Ricky Hatton

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Calderon desrves to be in that list as much as Pavlik,Cotto Marquez and Hatton.

Sorry Daxx, a great list apart from John. He didn' deserve the W over JMM at all. And that his ONLY big win. I'm not syaing he's a bad fighter but he dam sure as heck is not top 10 P4P,no way.

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Sorry Daxx, a great list apart from John. He didn' deserve the W over JMM at all. And that his ONLY big win. I'm not syaing he's a bad fighter but he dam sure as heck is not top 10 P4P,no way.

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Just an opinion mate...TBH I disagree with a lot of people having Cotto so high....I like Cotto and think he is a great fighter but I see some people having him at 4 or 5....TBH and you mentioned it yourself...IMO Calderon is overlooked on all the list pretty much for the same reason...Lack of exposure

Hell you could put Israel at No.1 and that would be ok by me, what a fighter!

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