Saddo's Official Pound for Pound List.

OK Guys, here's the plan.
I want as many Saddo posters as possible to post their Top Ten P4P list, no comments no debate, just their lists.
From their I will tally the votes for each and using a Quantitative method, will compile an official Saddo's Top Ten ranking.
Here's my vote. I'll compile the official Saddo's list in 1-2 days time. 6/03/2008

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Joe Calzaghe
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Bernard Hopkins
6) Miguel Cotto
7) Israel Vasquez
8.)Ricky Hatton
9) Rafeal Marquez
10)Kristian Mijares

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Joe Calzaghe
6) Israel Vasquez
7) Miguel COtto
8.)WInky Wright
9) Juan Diaz
10) Kelly Pavlik

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Joe Calzaghe
6) Israel Vasquez
7) Miguel Cotto
8.)Ivan Calderon
9) Winky Wright
10) Juan Diaz

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Miguel Cotto
4) Bernard Hopkins
5) Juan Manuel Marquez
6) Kelly Pavlik
7) Joe Calzaghe
8.) Israel Vazquez
9) Juan Diaz
10) Ricky Hatton

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Juan Diaz
10. Ivan Calderon

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Bernard Hopkins
4) Juan Manuel Marquez
5) Joe Calzaghe
6) Israel Vasquez
7) Miguel Cotto
8) Rafael Marquez
9) Ivan Calderon
10) Juan Diaz

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Kelly Pavlik
9. Juan Diaz
10. Ricky Hatton

1- floyd
2- hopkins
3- calzaghe
4- pavlik
5- paquico
6- winky
7- marquez
8- vazquezx
9- cotto
10- hatton

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Bernard Hopkins
4 Joe Calzaghe
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Israel Vasquez
7 Miguel Cotto
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz

• 1. Mayweather 2.Paquiao 3.Calsaghe 4.Cotto 5.Pavlik 6.Calderon 7. JM Marquez 8.Jones jr. 9. Hopkins 10. Hatton ;D

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Originally Posted by Macho

• 1. Mayweather 2.Paquiao 3.Calsaghe 4.Cotto 5.Pavlik 6.Calderon 7. JM Marquez 8.Jones jr. 9. Hopkins 10. Hatton ;D

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Hopkins at 9 ?? Jones in the top 10 P4P ?? Pavlik at 5 ?? no Rafael Marquez or Israel Vasquez ??

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Ivan Calderon
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Bernard Hopkins
9. Juan Diaz
10. Juan Manuel Marquez

I am not going to debate the list though...Good thread Donny


1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Bernard Hopkins

3. Joe Calzaghe

4. Manny Pacquiao

5. Israel Vazquez

6. Chris John

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Ivan Calderon

9. Rafael Marquez

10. Miguel Cotto

Here's my list

1. PBF
2. PAC
3. JMM
4. Joe
5. B-Hop
6. Israel
7. Cotto
8. Hatton
9. Rafael
10. Winky

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Originally Posted by ICB

Hopkins at 9 ?? Jones in the top 10 P4P ?? Pavlik at 5 ?? no Rafael Marquez or Israel Vasquez ??

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Hey ICB , maybe i organized the list at the wrong way , but i did it at the way that the first 6 best p4p are undefeated fighters, that is why i organized it like that , i want apologize if i presented some confuse in these topic......;)

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Originally Posted by Macho

Hey ICB , maybe i organized the list at the wrong way , but i did it at the way that the first 6 best p4p are undefeated fighters, that is why i organized it like that , i want apologize if i presented some confuse in these topic......;)

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No confusion i was just curious about your choices.

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Bernard Hopkins
3 Manny Pacquiao
4 Juan Manuel Marquez
5 Israel Vasquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Joe Calzaghe
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Fernando Montiel

interesting many dont include Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz in their list. ????

Everybody has Hopkins in front of Wright PFP, Wright gave Hopkins big trouble and is 3 weights below hows that work. ;D

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Everybody has Hopkins in front of Wright PFP, Wright gave Hopkins big trouble and is 3 weights below hows that work. ;D

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Well because Wright's last good win was against Felix Trinidad in 2005, unless you count the Quartey victory which i really and truly don't.

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Originally Posted by Chicali

interesting many dont include Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz in their list. ????

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Rep for noticing. He's my #9.

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Originally Posted by Chicali

interesting many dont include Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz in their list. ????

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I think im the only one who gave him a mention.

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Originally Posted by ICB

I think im the only one who gave him a mention.

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I will be honest and I know many won't agree but I am not sold on him yet

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I will be honest and I know many won't agree but I am not sold on him yet

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I don't know why. But for some reason I just don't like him

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't know why. But for some reason I just don't like him

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me three. see great minds think a like ;)

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't know why. But for some reason I just don't like him

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That "some reason" is you're a Casa fan.

ooh heres my list:

(these two tops the list, the only two spots thats for sure)
Floyd = Although I don't agree in him being inactive and away from the sport and still being rank. Floyd is still undefeated and looking sharp. I think he can beat everyone at welterweight, I just don't respect him for not actually fighting the best in that weight. Even though I think his a coward I still think if he grew balls he could have everyone lined up and beat them to a u.d one after another. Ofcourse thats with his incredible boxing skills mix in with some dirty dirty tactics.

Pac = The rematch with jmm should prove if pac really deserves top spot. Pac is a very dominant fighter, only one that can really beat him is himself.

not in order; ( too difficult to put these guys in order, the top two is concrete to me though)

Cotto = Getting stronger and stronger

Jmm = Second only to pacbeast in one of the best division in recent decade.

Bhop = Still going strong, the immortal executioner looks to add on to his legecy with a win over the great wales dragoon.

Calzagne = Earn my respect after he clearly defeated one of my favorite, Kessler. Joe is foreal, america knows these now. Look out Bhop.

Hatton = I don't get why people are taking hatton of the top ten, he has only lost to floyd the numero uno and credit to hatton he fought above his weight at 147.

Pavlik = With another win over J.T he stamps his name in the top 10 and as for J.T he sadly slips off top 10. Two close victories over bhop that could of gone either way and a draw with winky who is no longer top 10 no longer cuts it for j.t to make top ten. Pavlik is in.

Isreal + Rafa, I can not seperate these two Im sorry. There battles only prove that they are p4p legends, it does not prove to me who really is better. I lean only slightly to isreal because imo he will always be more likely to take more punishment then rafa can handle, but i won't knock rafa for that because rafa is the one that moved up to fight in a higher weight division.

Mijares = Yes i think Mijares beats Calderon p4p. I appreciate the smaller guys but im not going to overstate that they are much better then another guy whos worthy. Last I saw Calderon he was getting knock around and should of been stop by some guy I don't even really know. Credit to Ivan though his still top 15 for me. I just can't put him in my top ten.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I don't know why. But for some reason I just don't like him

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He is just not s fighter that you really want to see in action...He has skills and he is undefeated yes but IMO when I hear he is fighting I get absolutely zero urge to see the fight....A lot has to do with the fact he has about as much personality and charisma as a wet blanket:-\

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

He is just not s fighter that you really want to see in action...He has skills and he is undefeated yes but IMO when I hear he is fighting I get absolutely zero urge to see the fight....A lot has to do with the fact he has about as much personality and charisma as a wet blanket:-\

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What I dont like about him is that he stresses about being in college and boxing is just his hobby. He make it seem like his better then other boxers cause he goes to school. They tried to appeal that to fans but nobody really pick up on it cause he really is not a appealing guy.

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

What I dont like about him is that he stresses about being in college and boxing is just his hobby. He make it seem like his better then other boxers cause he goes to school. They tried to appeal that to fans but nobody really pick up on it cause he really is not a appealing guy.

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Pretty much sums it up in a nutshell mate..

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

He is just not s fighter that you really want to see in action...He has skills and he is undefeated yes but IMO when I hear he is fighting I get absolutely zero urge to see the fight....A lot has to do with the fact he has about as much personality and charisma as a wet blanket:-\

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Im quite shocked at that Daxx with you being an Aaron Pryor fan. I thought you would be a fan of Diaz's swarming style.

1: Money Mayweather :cool:
2: Pac
3: Calzaghe
4: Hopkins
5: Vasquez
6: Cotto
7: J marquez
8: Pavlik
9: Hatton
10: Mijares

Juan Diaz would be my number 11 by the way. Feel bad about leaving him out :(

1: Floyd Mayweather
2: Manny Pacquaio
3: Bernard Hopkins
4: Juan Manuel Marquez
5: Miguel Cotto
6: Joe Calzaghe
7: Israel Vasquez
8: Rafael Marquez
9: Winky Wright
10: Kelly Pavlik

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Originally Posted by Althugz

1: Floyd Mayweather
2: Manny Pacquaio
3: Bernard Hopkins
4: Juan Manuel Marquez
5: Miguel Cotto
6: Joe Calzaghe
7: Israel Vasquez
8: Rafael Marquez
9: Winky Wright
10: Kelly Pavlik

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I'm sure he's number 1 for this too :splurt: :-X :-X :-X

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Originally Posted by ICB

Im quite shocked at that Daxx with you being an Aaron Pryor fan. I thought you would be a fan of Diaz's swarming style.

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With all due respect ICB...Diaz could not wipe Pryors ass......With that being said....

Like I mentioned before I am not really sold on him yet and his personality is about zero....almost a prude in a way...

Dam I've seen some weird things...Hatton top 10?Not on the run he's been on since the Tszyu fight.

Few mentions of Calderon who should be in there on the basis of his win over Cazarez who must have outhweighed him by 20 plus pounds,and it was Ivan's first fight at the weight.That would have been like Mayweather fighting Margarito or Williams in his first fight at WW(exactly). Not to mention his COUNTLESS defences.

Chris John.....:confused:

Juan Diaz....:confused: Wins over Freitas and Julio Diaz don't make you P4P. Cotto had to beat Judah,Mosley,and 3 unbeaten future world champs(Torres,Paulie and QUintana) to get into P4P lists. Diaz is nowhere near that.

Probably the best lists I've seen:Mikes although I'd take out Winky and put CAlderon and take out with Pavlik joint 10th or something:

1) Floyd "Gold Gob" Mayweather
2) Joe Calzaghe
3) Israel Vazquez
4) Manny Pacquiao
5) Miguel Cotto
6) Kelly Pavlik
7) Bernard Hopkins
8) Juan Diaz
9) Chris John
10) Juan Manuel Marquez

Mayweather
Pacquiao
J. Marquez
Hopkins
Calzaghe
Vasquez
Cotto
Hatton
Wright
R. Marquez

Could easily be replaced by Juan Diaz, Pavlik or Calderon... but for now he stays!