How the hell did anyone give the last round to Manny?
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How the hell did anyone give the last round to Manny?
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
YOU GUYS NEED TO REWATCH IT. IM SURE EVERYONE HAS ONLY SEEN IT ONCES.
SO REWATCH IT!!!!!!!!
HEHEHEHEHEHEH ;D
I had the last round for Marquez.
I scored round 8 a 10-8 round for Marquez.
How they had Pacquiao winning is even more of a mystery to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Hahahahahahaha
Pac Won, Damn This Is Fun ;d
This fight could of gone either way. I had the 7th even and the fight scored at 114-114. I don't think anyone can argue with this outcome. What a hell of a fight!
I scored it the same wayQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
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Originally Posted by the wiz
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE ACCEPT IT AND QUIT BEING CRY BABIES :eek:
;D
The 12th was clearly a Marquez round. Not a matter of debate unless you are over 60, blind or else Harold Lederman. Easy round to score.
Pac was full of the same weaknesses that Barrera failed to even attempt to exploit. Marquez did exploit them to some extent but got the rough end of the stick.
The HBO commentators analyzed that last round scoring and they said that even if all the judges gave the last round to Marquez, Manny would have still won by a point because of the KNOCKDOWN scored by PAC in the 3rd. It was a close fight but the KNOCKDOWN sealed the fight for PAC:).
But I would not mind seeing a rubber match.
A rematch would be very nice to see. My only worry is that Marquez is getting older. A rematch later this year would be good. Depends on the politics I guess.
HBO was discustingly biass as always. Marquez was ahead by 1 point going into the last round imo. He won the 12th round and how anyone can score it for Manny is beyond me.
http://www.csu.edu.au/faculty/arts/h...ages/fetus.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainQuote:
Originally Posted by the wiz
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE ACCEPT IT AND QUIT BEING CRY BABIES :eek:
;D
If we are being babies, you are being a fetus ;D
Yeah, watch the fight again folks. Remove the KD, and Pac still won that fight. Marquez connected a lot of low blows and was eating a lot of Pac's right hand. What a beautiful job by Manny!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainQuote:
Originally Posted by the wiz
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE ACCEPT IT AND QUIT BEING CRY BABIES :eek:
;D
PLEEZ....
Scorecards as soon as anyone has them.
I couldn't get the fight tonight.
the one who fought beautiful was JMM. That was not a good fight for Pac Man. He looked like he tired in the end. He did not come guns ablazing in the last rounds but fought in short spurts. The way JMM evaded the big left all night was brilliant.
Pacman lost
Last round?:confused:... That's all you got?:-\ 12 round was even. They were both wildly swinging and didn't really hurt each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
You can't take away the knock down but you can look at the stats. I am not saying the stats/compubox are the last word but they do help in certain circumstances such as these. I thought the fight was much closer and a draw or a win for JMM was one of the two things we would hear. I love PacMan and I am not too huge on JMM. I just think that this should have been at least a draw. Oh well. I wont lose any sleep over this decision as both fighters gave us another great fight :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYeah, watch the fight again folks. Remove the KD, and Pac still won that fight. Marquez connected a lot of low blows and was eating a lot of Pac's right hand. What a beautiful job by Manny!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainQuote:
Originally Posted by the wiz
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE ACCEPT IT AND QUIT BEING CRY BABIES :eek:
;D
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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
disagree there, pac won! hahaha ;D
Which one would you choose?... QUANTITY or QUALITY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GYou can't take away the knock down but you can look at the stats. I am not saying the stats/compubox are the last word but they do help in certain circumstances such as these. I thought the fight was much closer and a draw or a win for JMM was one of the two things we would hear. I love PacMan and I am not too huge on JMM. I just think that this should have been at least a draw. Oh well. I wont lose any sleep over this decision as both fighters gave us another great fight :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYeah, watch the fight again folks. Remove the KD, and Pac still won that fight. Marquez connected a lot of low blows and was eating a lot of Pac's right hand. What a beautiful job by Manny!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
That's all we have to say for now bro! Let's fooking CELEBRATE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainQuote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
disagree there, pac won! hahaha ;D
ahh that is the million dollar question that us boxing fans have been debating for eternity.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftWhich one would you choose?... QUANTITY or QUALITY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GYou can't take away the knock down but you can look at the stats. I am not saying the stats/compubox are the last word but they do help in certain circumstances such as these. I thought the fight was much closer and a draw or a win for JMM was one of the two things we would hear. I love PacMan and I am not too huge on JMM. I just think that this should have been at least a draw. Oh well. I wont lose any sleep over this decision as both fighters gave us another great fight :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
what if I say quality
but in this case the quality goes to JMM....
I'd choose quality. :cool: In a close fight, both should be considered. Usually, it's the quality that has more weight though.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftWhich one would you choose?... QUANTITY or QUALITY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GYou can't take away the knock down but you can look at the stats. I am not saying the stats/compubox are the last word but they do help in certain circumstances such as these. I thought the fight was much closer and a draw or a win for JMM was one of the two things we would hear. I love PacMan and I am not too huge on JMM. I just think that this should have been at least a draw. Oh well. I wont lose any sleep over this decision as both fighters gave us another great fight :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
You mean being knocked down from a QUALITY punch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dogahh that is the million dollar question that us boxing fans have been debating for eternity.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftWhich one would you choose?... QUANTITY or QUALITY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
what if I say quality
but in this case the quality goes to JMM....
no bro I should have said the later rounds from the sixth on... he tiredQuote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftLast round?:confused:... That's all you got?:-\ 12 round was even. They were both wildly swinging and didn't really hurt each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
;D hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYou mean being knocked down from a QUALITY punch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dogahh that is the million dollar question that us boxing fans have been debating for eternity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
what if I say quality
but in this case the quality goes to JMM....
I like you bro, that was quick witted.
I meant to say that I thought JMM fought the better fight.
Yes bro, People would learn to accept that win as time goes by. For now, all of us true boxing fans should be quite happy with how the fight went. Maybe not with the result (coz Marquez fans would be truly disgusted with the result no matter what we say top them).Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThat's all we have to say for now bro! Let's fooking CELEBRATE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainQuote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
disagree there, pac won! hahaha ;D
ICB will soon be claiming soon that MArquez won that fight convincingly. Let's just respect that coz he's a MArquez fan. We Pacfans believe otherwise. Our man won and I think they should rspect the decision as I also respect Mayweather winning over De La hoya though I thought DLH should have won.:cool: That goes to show that we have our own opinion. We are entitled to it. RESPECT therefore is in order here or else there will be debates in this forum for years regarding that fight.
I must agree though that a rematch is in order to settle things and to erase any doubts.
Now for those who said that PAcquaio will be fighting an old fighter again in Marquez, hope they would say sorry for belittling MArquez.:cool:
Yeah dude!!! I'm gonna watch some sports news for now on TV. I'll see you guys later.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeYes bro, People would learn to accept that win as time goes by. For now, all of us true boxing fans should be quite happy with how the fight went. Maybe not with the result (coz Marquez fans would be truly disgusted with the result no matter what we say top them).Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThat's all we have to say for now bro! Let's fooking CELEBRATE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
ICB will soon be claiming soon that MArquez won that fight convincingly. Let's just respect that coz he's a MArquez fan. We Pacfans believe otherwise. Our man won and I think they should rspect the decision as I also respect Mayweather winning over De La hoya though I thought DLH should have won.:cool: That goes to show that we have our own opinion. We are entitled to it. RESPECT therefore is in order here or else there will be debates in this forum for years regarding that fight.
I must agree though that a rematch is in order to settle things and to erase any doubts.
Now for those who said that PAcquaio will be fighting an old fighter again in Marquez, hope they would say sorry for belittling MArquez.:cool:
Pac the champ!!! Mabuhay and Pilipinas!!!
I respect all you opinions bro. You're a cool guy. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog;D hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYou mean being knocked down from a QUALITY punch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
I like you bro, that was quick witted.
I meant to say that I thought JMM fought the better fight.
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Originally Posted by ArawakWarria
Official judges scorecards...
Jerry Roth: 115-112 (Marquez)
Duane Ford: 115-112 (Pacquiao)
Tom Miller: 114-113 (Pacquiao)
I can't see how anyone could give Pac round 12.
I mean seriously. Round 12 was a clear round and a round that was won by JMM.
ofcourse you can't see it mick. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
he evaded the left all night huh??? how did his right eye get messed up that bad? how did he get KD. how is it the everytime he gets hit with one big left he stumbles around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
good points, but don't mess with mad dog his a mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by josef4334he evaded the left all night huh??? how did his right eye get messed up that bad? how did he get KD. how is it the everytime he gets hit with one big left he stumbles around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
the knock down made the difference in the fight. it could have been draw but like you said, the knockdown cant be taken away. i dont understand why jerry roth scored the fight 115-112 marquez. he totally disregard the KD on rnd 3. he could have score it 113-112 marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GYou can't take away the knock down but you can look at the stats. I am not saying the stats/compubox are the last word but they do help in certain circumstances such as these. I thought the fight was much closer and a draw or a win for JMM was one of the two things we would hear. I love PacMan and I am not too huge on JMM. I just think that this should have been at least a draw. Oh well. I wont lose any sleep over this decision as both fighters gave us another great fight :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYeah, watch the fight again folks. Remove the KD, and Pac still won that fight. Marquez connected a lot of low blows and was eating a lot of Pac's right hand. What a beautiful job by Manny!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
im not messing with him. i dont mess with anybody.i just make my point. so he's gonna ban me for making my point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Raingood points, but don't mess with mad dog his a mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by josef4334he evaded the left all night huh??? how did his right eye get messed up that bad? how did he get KD. how is it the everytime he gets hit with one big left he stumbles around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
Julius can you honestly and whole heartedly say that you scored the 12 for Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rainofcourse you can't see it mick. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
YES! that was easy ;D did jmm dominate that round? i don't think so, is this what is on the line here the 12 round? is this supose to prove jmm won? i don't think so. jmm came up short, he doesn't deseve to lose. but pac won that fight cause he landed more hurtful shots that showed who was more dangerous, who was stronger, who could end the fight, who can dictate weather they exchange or settle, and finally who is the best. PACMAN NEW RING CHAMPION!!!!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickJulius can you honestly and whole heartedly say that you scored the 12 for Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rainofcourse you can't see it mick. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
For me, round 12 was for Marquez. I think round 1 may have been the reason why Pacquaio won the split decision. That round could go to anybody.:cool: