ICB's RBR Of Joel Casamayor vs Michael Katsidis.

Only 4 days until this fight so i thought i would put up a RBR again, and do one again if my fellow saddoians don't mind.

Michael Katsidis.

What can you say about this guy ?? he truly is one of the most exciting boxers out there at the moment. He reminds me of a modern day Arturo Gatti, he has a huge punch, lots of heart, and lots of will. But just because i like Katsidis a lot doesn't mean he isn't very beatable which he is. I see his last fight with Czar Amonsot, which was very exciting but also he was exposed quite a bit in that fight IMO. Czar gave him quite a lot of problems and even badly cut him, i thought Katsidis's power would have finished the job quickly because Czar has been stopped twice before in his other 2 losses, one of those losses come in the first round. But it didn't and we had a back and forth war, Katsidis looked on the verge of being stopped with those nasty cuts, but i give Katsidis credit for coming out for the 10th round like that and trying to finish his man, Katsidis finished the fight Arturo Gatti style. And saved himself from being stopped. Katsidis is good at coming back when he is hurt, even when Graham Earl managed to deck him, he took a few seconds to recover than went right back to his work and begun to pound Earl.

Joel Casamayor

The incredibly skilled Cuban has been a bit unlucky in his career, he dropped 3 very close decision to Freitas, Corrales, Castillo, what can i say about Casamayor ?? a very good slick boxer who knows all the tricks in the book. I thought a lot of the Lightweights were ducking him, and when he finally did step into the ring with Cruz in his last fight i thought it would be normal routine for Casamayor, but boy was i wrong as he was totally out boxed. After 12 rounds i think everybody had Cruz winning by a big margin and there was no doubt Casamayor had lost. But to the shock of everyone Casamayor won the decision in which mostly everybody thinks was a robbery. Now this could mean 2 things, 1 the long lay off effected Casamayor and he was ring rusty. Or 2 he is a shot fighter at 36 and his age has finally caught up to him.

Final Verdict

I think Casamayor will be well up for the Katsidis fight looking to redeem himself, and i think he will totally out box the limited Katsidis. I do like Katsidis and it would be good to see him win but i have a funny feeling Casamayor will put in one of his best performances, i see Casamayor winning clear cut decision or stopping Katsidis on cuts late.

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Originally Posted by Fl!p Flash

Casa is a "done" fighter. His last performance was butt ugly. He's gonna get KTFO by young guns Kats this weekend.

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Joel may not be the fighter he was , but Katsidis is easy to hit ,crude , and totally over rated , i pick Joel to win myself , Katsidies is a WBO cHAMPION , NEED I SAY ANYMORE ?

Casa had a bad fight last time out, as everyone does now and again. How he looks this weekend will help clear up all the "casa is washed up" talk. Before that last fight, no one wanted any piece of casa now one fight later he done for ????!! Maybe...maybe not hard to say at this point in my eyes. The ole usual casamayor wins, just depends who shows up.

I know this fight is for THE LIGHTWEIGHT Championship of the world, but as far as alphabet titles go, each fighter has an "interim" alphabet trinket

Does that mean we are going to get a unified "interim" alphabet champion.

Nate Campbell has to get the winner of this fight. Unless Casa really turns back the clock and looks great beating Kats, I think Campbell would smoke him at this point. I'm really hoping to see Nate vs Pac sometime over the next year, and it looks like a very plausible fight right now.. Don't see Pac losing to David Diaz that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Nate Campbell has to get the winner of this fight. Unless Casa really turns back the clock and looks great beating Kats, I think Campbell would smoke him at this point. I'm really hoping to see Nate vs Pac sometime over the next year, and it looks like a very plausible fight right now.. Don't see Pac losing to David Diaz that's for sure.

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I think Campbell can beat any Lightweight out there at the moment, the only concern i have is can he produce that kind of performance again ?? he is getting past his sell by date and fighters can age over night, i hope he doesn't though because i love the way he rolls with the punches reminds me little bit of Mayweather.

Joel will win this fight, many people said that Campbell was way past it, he then got in the ring and dominated, it's all about focus and last fight Joel was not, he will be on Saturday

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Originally Posted by Bookkeeper

Joel will win this fight, many people said that Campbell was way past it, he then got in the ring and dominated, it's all about focus and last fight Joel was not, he will be on Saturday

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This fight will not be similar to Campbell-Diaz. Katz can KO his opponent with one punch,.. if not, then a brain hemorrhage will likely to occur.

Just ask Czar Amonsot.:)

I can't stand Casamayor because of his tumultuous relationship with Chico Corrales (one of my all time favorites), but unless he has completely lost it he should beat Kats without too much difficulty. I see Casa's counter-punching wearing down and eventually stopping kats.

Casamayor on points or late stoppage

Bit ironic calling Casamayor "unlucky in his career" after his last fight ;D

I find Casa an ugly (not talking about his looks) and at times boring fucker.. wouldn't surprise me - even now that he's ancient and coming off a pathetic lucky showing - if he bored-out at SD.

Mixed here.While I think Casa was awarded a stupendously bad descision and looked tattererd and spent Vs. Santa-Cruz and I think he comes off like a dirty fighting tweeker....He is and has been a very slippery and crafty Fighter over career.I think he Will be drooling at the sight of A face first free swinging Katsidis who has all the desire and heart out there but he is very defensivly Deficient and untested in the big bouts.When Merchant kept comparing him with Gatti........Nice sentiments back could also be a back handed compliment. I.....cough cough.......see Casa making this a fugly fight and bringing Katsidis into the deep waters for a Dec.Win,Or tko on cuts late.

Bump.

Just placed a bet on Casa, Coral have him at 6/4 £15 stake returns £37.50 think he'll out box him, as for Kats punch power he wont catch clean enough and often enough to knock him out or stop him.

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Just placed a bet on Casa, Coral have him at 6/4 £15 stake returns £37.50 think he'll out box him, as for Kats punch power he wont catch clean enough and often enough to knock him out or stop him.

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If Casamayor has got any kind of old form we will see another undefeated fighter exposed badly.

In case anyone needs them, I posted the stream links for this fight in the "Let's Get It On" section.

If Casa has anything left, he should be able to outbox Katsidis.

If Casa has anything left, he should be able to outbox Katsidis.

Anybody know what time it starts uk time?

I bet Casamayor by UD , he will out box Katsidis very well....:cool:

Hey guys curious question. I know the Andrade fight is before the Kats/Joel fight. But I understand they are also showing the replay, already saw it, of the Pac fight. My question is, does anyone know if they are showgin that replay 1st at 10pm or after the fights??? I thought I heard at the end, hope so. Thanks

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Hey guys curious question. I know the Andrade fight is before the Kats/Joel fight. But I understand they are also showing the replay, already saw it, of the Pac fight. My question is, does anyone know if they are showgin that replay 1st at 10pm or after the fights??? I thought I heard at the end, hope so. Thanks

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I actually think it could be a double upset.

I think Casamayor will school Katsidis.

I also think if Steiglitz can keep his chin away from Andrade he'll dance to a decision in that fight also.

Andrade is another zero skill guy who will get outboxed comfortably by anyone who can handle his power.

I'd not be in the least suprised if he lost tonight. I would have gone for a Steiglitz win in the prediction contest but the fact that it was too risky as everyone was going for Andrade.

But I reckon he'll likely lose tonight also.

The real upset would be if Marquez got the nod on the re-broadcast.

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Originally Posted by Huscroft6

Hey guys curious question. I know the Andrade fight is before the Kats/Joel fight. But I understand they are also showing the replay, already saw it, of the Pac fight. My question is, does anyone know if they are showgin that replay 1st at 10pm or after the fights??? I thought I heard at the end, hope so. Thanks

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I'm not sure, but they could be showing it in place of the Junior Witter vs. D. Hopkins fight that was supposed to be the cheif support for the main bout before it got cancelled. I also hope they don't hold up the live broadcast for a replay.

so far in the telecast's it looks as though they re-air the PPV and then go into live fights.Any one know the Broadcasters ?? Hope Its Lampley,Kellerman and Lewis.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

so far in the telecast's it looks as though they re-air the PPV and then go into live fights.Any one know the Broadcasters ?? Hope Its Lampley,Kellerman and Lewis.

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No Lampley tonite.

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Hey guys curious question. I know the Andrade fight is before the Kats/Joel fight. But I understand they are also showing the replay, already saw it, of the Pac fight. My question is, does anyone know if they are showgin that replay 1st at 10pm or after the fights??? I thought I heard at the end, hope so. Thanks

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I'm not sure, but they could be showing it in place of the Junior Witter vs. D. Hopkins fight that was supposed to be the cheif support for the main bout before it got cancelled. I also hope they don't hold up the live broadcast for a replay.

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Yea thats what I hope would no be the case. Thank you

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so far in the telecast's it looks as though they re-air the PPV and then go into live fights.Any one know the Broadcasters ?? Hope Its Lampley,Kellerman and Lewis.

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No Lampley tonite.

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Lampley has to stay at home and keep the domestic scene under control.

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so far in the telecast's it looks as though they re-air the PPV and then go into live fights.Any one know the Broadcasters ?? Hope Its Lampley,Kellerman and Lewis.

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No Lampley tonite.

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Waa.....:o. Sorry but yeah

;D;DHis yelling ,shouting and rah-rah Network fighter mantra's can get obnoxious.Love to here kellerman and Lewis........they seem to have verbale spats a bit

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so far in the telecast's it looks as though they re-air the PPV and then go into live fights.Any one know the Broadcasters ?? Hope Its Lampley,Kellerman and Lewis.

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No Lampley tonite.

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Lampley has to stay at home and keep the domestic scene under control.

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Good !! I feel like a dealer with all this required 'spreading' ;D

Ray Corona ref...thats gotta be a good damn ref.;D I smell a mugging coming Here...sniff.

Getting ready to start?

Andrade took the first round

Billy Dib won a razor thin SD. His future dont look too good right now imo.

Damn this a good fight

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Getting ready to start?

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Yep,wheres our host??Andrade takes the first,Alot of uppercuts.Andrade is landind with variable angels and Stiglitz(?) having hard time finding rythem...and his jab.In close exchange late in 2nd,Stig lands big.Stig bloody and Andrade digging body well end of 2nd.Heating up

Blood already?

Stieglitz took an uppercut and completely started to ROCK Andrade!!! That was a really good round!

Stig bloody in nose and scalp.....Kellerman calls him an animal.......Lewis calls him an gladiator lol.These guys like to verbal spar-Stig putting it on last minute-Bends Andrade over ropes-Stig standing ground firm and Andrade comes back off ropes landing hooks-Stig looks like a kid who just ate a Cherry snow cone-Good fight end of 3rd

This def is a good one. Andrade rolls with the punches really well...

More jabbing to start-Stig moving and picking spots-Andrade digs body and works uppercuts inside-Stig landing stiff shots and has andrade on ropes-boxing Stig is more effective-NICE right hook by Stig-Andrade pushes him to ropes and off loads right hands-Stig is here to fight-Andrade not as active as usual