OK.i need to kno why so many ppl hate judah? sory long post

In my eyes i think judah is a great fighter, he has heart, strength, speed and an attitude thats always positive. (ima kick some1s ass, ima ruin his career)

thats the plus of everything.....i mean GUYS hes the one that KO Cory and basically took all his titles away and made him leave boxing for over a yr (THANK GOD but then again hes back -_-)

HEART-1) even though this guy gets bashed in the later rounds he tries to go all the way, yea he lost a lil respect for the low blows on mayweather, but alot of ppl do that to get out of a bad situation. (what happen when cotto was getting punished by judah in the early rounds, he threw three freakin low blows, y to get out of the situation he was in we all saw what happened. If u want to argue please be my guess...i dont mind at all.

2) the dude fought cotto a day before the puerto rican parade, and even tho it was in his hometown, the freakin crowd was about 90 percent cotto fans, 2 percent judah fans, and the rest of them were probably there for the hell of it.

Speed- As we all kno this dudes got speed, hes fast, and has great movement (its too bad he doesnt try to use it to his advantage and always tries to fight a mans fight)

Strength- This dudes got huge uppercuts(plain and simple) he has a nice left hook but it is never really on target...lol

Attitude - Well u guys all know this guys pretty much a big talker who will call out everyone, it doesnt matter who and this also applies to heart as well he has great confidence when he enters the ring.

BUT no doubt i understand alot of the negatives of judah, like his focus in the later rounds, his motives for not finish a fighter when he has the chance to and his constant spending of money...but dont blame him for having fun with his money while hes young...i kno i would be spending like crazy

So im asking you guys dont give up on judah just yet......he aint done hes just fighting in the wrong division ( i really wish he freakin goes down one division therefore he can basically own)

and for his next fight judah does have a chance, but i think it all comes to the mental game of both fighters

He has a Floyd Mayweather Jr. attitude, Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s potential early in his career and he got complacent and anytime he loses it's never his fault.


Judah is completely unaware of how good he COULD have been but he acts like he is the best thing ever.

If he had a little humility or actually reached his potential he wouldn't be so bad but he's just another loud mouth wannabe thug and boxing has enough of those already

I do agree that he is probably fighting in the wrong division.

If he could drop down and get fights with Malignaggi and Hatton he could get back to winning ways again.

I've always felt with Judah that his team and punk dad trainer Joel held him back.

I'll credit him with one thing though, he's willing to fight anybody.

I don't hate judah, I actually find him funny yo kna wha I sayin?


Plus his the only boxer in boxing history to fight with braces :o amazing!

JUdah fought with braces.....wth
i played sports with braces and once something hit me in the mouth i was bleding so i must give judah some credit on that throw that on the list of heart.

Like I told Majesty in another thread.....


"Anything that Zab get's he get's it because HE chose to play the role of the bad guy. Leading up to his fights he'd try to come across as this thug with a bandana around his neck and the "Crooklyn" mentality.
So don't give me that Majesty.
Same thing applied for PBF he want's to be the bad guy and d!ckhead about it then he get's EVERYTHING that comes with it. Which includes but is not limited to Shit talking, dissing, dislike from boxing fans."

Judah keeps failing against top dogs. He had plenty of opportunies to be on top, but he blew 'em away. I was gonna compare him to Charles Barkley (the "uncrown champ" of the NBA), but I just can't.

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I actually think Homer has more brains! What irks most of us boxing fans is how Judah has wasted his obvious talent, ever since the Tszyu fight he has had a chequered career with some good wins (Spinks) and some horrible losses (Baldomir) I personally thought he lost to Pineda too! Judah is a boxing enigma and none of us can work out the riddle. Mosley is his last chance for big time glory and if he doesn't win this time he will then have that tag most boxers hate being associated with 'Journeyman' If he wins he probably gets a shot at Quintana/Williams or Margarito/Cintron. Nasa scientists couldn't work Judah out if they tried! Pyschiatrists all over the United Staes refuse to take on the case! I'm sure there is a little wheel inside Judah's head being run by mice!!!! I go crazy just thinking about him.

I like judah hes not scared of anybody

i actually met zab recently and to probably everyones amazement he is a really cool guy. he did not act hard, nor like a prick. he was rather humble and was willing to take pictures with anyone who desired to.

like many other fighters who are often hated on i say: DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE.

Basically he epitomizes everything that is wrong with the world today.

A bit like Paris Hilton does.

Like Mick said, everything that has happened to him (the bad stuff) has been brought on by himself.

The world has enough real thugs without Zab pretending to be one.

I don't hate the guy at all, there are actually a lot of things i like about him. But he gets way too much credit for fights that he doesn't even win. It's frustrating to watch him at times cause you can always see the potential for this guy to beat almost anyone but he can't keep that for enough rounds to win fights. Thses guys often grow up in shady and bad enviroments so how they act outside of boxing is sometims irritating but understandable, i have a ton of friends that are the same way. They grow up on the streets sometimes for most of thier childhood so being a succesful boxer and getting a little bit of cash doesn't change the enviroment in which they feel comfortable, is it stupid maybe but understandable absolutly when it's all you've known. Give a thug in prison a million dollors and set him free and chances are he'll still be back in eventually....kinda sad actually.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

In my eyes i think judah is a great fighter, he has heart, strength, speed and an attitude thats always positive. (ima kick some1s ass, ima ruin his career)

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I fail to see the positivity in ruining someone career.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

thats the plus of everything.....i mean GUYS hes the one that KO Cory and basically took all his titles away and made him leave boxing for over a yr (THANK GOD but then again hes back -_-)

HEART-1) even though this guy gets bashed in the later rounds he tries to go all the way, yea he lost a lil respect for the low blows on mayweather, but alot of ppl do that to get out of a bad situation. (what happen when cotto was getting punished by judah in the early rounds, he threw three freakin low blows, y to get out of the situation he was in we all saw what happened. If u want to argue please be my guess...i dont mind at all.

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If Judah landed the low blow on Mayeather to get out of a bad situation, than what was the rabbit punch for? Mayweather was already bent over. And what about the gloved fist to Jay Nady's throat, or throwing his stool at Nady? Or what about the low blow to the thigh that he landed on Baldomir, BEFORE the fight started? None of those reprehensible actions had anything to do with getting out of a bad situation.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

2) the dude fought cotto a day before the puerto rican parade, and even tho it was in his hometown, the freakin crowd was about 90 percent cotto fans, 2 percent judah fans, and the rest of them were probably there for the hell of it.

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I don't really understand the point your trying to make here. Many boxers have fights in hostile environments but that doesn't mean anything. I mean Vivian Harris fought Oktay Urkal in Germany, but hes still a delusional boxer in need of a serious reality check.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

Speed- As we all kno this dudes got speed, hes fast, and has great movement (its too bad he doesnt try to use it to his advantage and always tries to fight a mans fight)

Strength- This dudes got huge uppercuts(plain and simple) he has a nice left hook but it is never really on target...lol

Attitude - Well u guys all know this guys pretty much a big talker who will call out everyone, it doesnt matter who and this also applies to heart as well he has great confidence when he enters the ring.

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Calling out anyone doesn't mean you have great heart. Matter of fact, I'm calling of Wladimir right now, not because I have great heart but because I know that I will be collecting a nice paycheck. Heart is earned by actions, not words.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

BUT no doubt i understand alot of the negatives of judah, like his focus in the later rounds, his motives for not finish a fighter when he has the chance to and his constant spending of money...but dont blame him for having fun with his money while hes young...i kno i would be spending like crazy

So im asking you guys dont give up on judah just yet......he aint done hes just fighting in the wrong division ( i really wish he freakin goes down one division therefore he can basically own)

and for his next fight judah does have a chance, but i think it all comes to the mental game of both fighters

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I think Judah is a very talented fighter, which is why is so frustrating to watch him piss it all away with his actions. One reason Jab hits the wall when it comes to the elites is because talent can only take you so far. Zab has all the God given gifts to take him to the top, but he lacks the focus and work ethic you see from those already there.

Why don't I like him? Just look at him.

Probably because of the tantrum he threw when Tszyu clipped him...I think that's where all the hate stems from. Poor sportsmanship. Everything else on top of that has just kind of escalated the hatred.

Attitude - Well u guys all know this guys pretty much a big talker who will call out everyone, it doesnt matter who and this also applies to heart as well he has great confidence when he enters the ring. [/quote]

Calling out anyone doesn't mean you have great heart. Matter of fact, I'm calling of Wladimir right now, not because I have great heart but because I know that I will be collecting a nice paycheck. Heart is earned by actions, not words.


u can call out anyone u want, the thing is no1 will ever take u seriously. with boxing on the other hand we see what happens when some1 comes out some1 else. We see it with hatton saying that comment after his fight with castillo saying w.e about mayweather and look what happen .


for u buddy u can call out wldamir all u want nothing is going to happen

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Some revealing facts you got there. ;D

I didn't know Zab was adopted by Homer Simpson.

I dislike Zab for many, many reasons. Not the least of which is that he began to refer to himself as an "American Gangster" after that Denzel Washinton movie came out.

There's no reason for lots of people to spend time hating Zab, because CutMeMick has enough Zab hate for all of us. ;)

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

Attitude - Well u guys all know this guys pretty much a big talker who will call out everyone, it doesnt matter who and this also applies to heart as well he has great confidence when he enters the ring.

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Calling out anyone doesn't mean you have great heart. Matter of fact, I'm calling of Wladimir right now, not because I have great heart but because I know that I will be collecting a nice paycheck. Heart is earned by actions, not words.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

u can call out anyone u want, the thing is no1 will ever take u seriously. with boxing on the other hand we see what happens when some1 comes out some1 else. We see it with hatton saying that comment after his fight with castillo saying w.e about mayweather and look what happen .


for u buddy u can call out wldamir all u want nothing is going to happen

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You missed the point, but I'll respond anyways. It doesn't take heart to call out big names, everyone in boxing does it. Calling out fighters is part of the game, most of the time its a part of the post fight intertview. Heart isn't found in saying "I'll beat anyone right now" its found in a toe to toe battle when you try to make good on that statement. Talk is cheap, especially coming from a guy who is out of bargaining chips like Judah. He isn't anyones number one contender, he has no major belts, ring or otherwise, and hasn't had a win over someone who is in the Top 10 of their division since Cory Spinks. And that was over three years ago.

And what happened to Hatton? He fought Mayweather and lost, like many boxers before him have, and collected a huge paycheck. Hatton wasn't forced to fight Mayweather after his comments after the Castillo fight, he wanted to fight Mayweather. Zab wants big fights so I don't see how it takes heart to call out fighters you want to fight.

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Originally Posted by toogood4u

In my eyes i think judah is a great fighter, he has heart, strength, speed and an attitude thats always positive. (ima kick some1s ass, ima ruin his career)

thats the plus of everything.....i mean GUYS hes the one that KO Cory and basically took all his titles away and made him leave boxing for over a yr (THANK GOD but then again hes back -_-)

HEART-1) even though this guy gets bashed in the later rounds he tries to go all the way, yea he lost a lil respect for the low blows on mayweather, but alot of ppl do that to get out of a bad situation. (what happen when cotto was getting punished by judah in the early rounds, he threw three freakin low blows, y to get out of the situation he was in we all saw what happened. If u want to argue please be my guess...i dont mind at all.

2) the dude fought cotto a day before the puerto rican parade, and even tho it was in his hometown, the freakin crowd was about 90 percent cotto fans, 2 percent judah fans, and the rest of them were probably there for the hell of it.

Speed- As we all kno this dudes got speed, hes fast, and has great movement (its too bad he doesnt try to use it to his advantage and always tries to fight a mans fight)

Strength- This dudes got huge uppercuts(plain and simple) he has a nice left hook but it is never really on target...lol

Attitude - Well u guys all know this guys pretty much a big talker who will call out everyone, it doesnt matter who and this also applies to heart as well he has great confidence when he enters the ring.

BUT no doubt i understand alot of the negatives of judah, like his focus in the later rounds, his motives for not finish a fighter when he has the chance to and his constant spending of money...but dont blame him for having fun with his money while hes young...i kno i would be spending like crazy

So im asking you guys dont give up on judah just yet......he aint done hes just fighting in the wrong division ( i really wish he freakin goes down one division therefore he can basically own)

and for his next fight judah does have a chance, but i think it all comes to the mental game of both fighters

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This is a truly great post, I knew it would be right after reading that classic, almost legendary first line.