Lee vs. Vera II?!?!?!?!

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Lee-Vera rematch?
Wednesday, March 26 2008
Fans, critics and Steward demand Part II!

Fan and industry reaction has been overwhelming supportive to reports of a rematch of the early “Fight of the Year” candidate between the Irish middleweight prospect Andy Lee (15-1, 12 KOs) and The Contender's Brian Vera (16-1, 10 KOs) that occurred March 21st when Vera scored a totally unexpected seventh round TKO over the previously unbeaten Lee. "This could be the beginning of a great series,” commented legendary trainer Emanuel Steward who was in the corner of Lee. Lee showed superior speed and skills throughout the high-pitched battle - televised live by ESPN2 Friday Night Fights - while Vera's heart, chin and determination gradually wore down the Irishman from Limerick, Ireland. Lee, who had been hyped as the future of the middleweight division, looked like he would have a short night when he dropped Vera in the opening stanza. The game Vera, however, came back to hurt Lee in round two and showed an incredible ability to take a punch as he literally wore down Lee with his tenacity. The fight was slugfest as the southpaw Lee landed hard left hands and Vera retaliated with his thudding rights. Lee suffered a cut on his right eye in round four that continued to run red during the bout. In round seven, Vera had unloaded a barrage of shots and Lee was fighting back when referee Tony Chiarantano suddenly stopped the action at 2:17 of the round. The crowd of 3,600-plus at the Mohegan Sun loudly booed the seemingly premature stoppage.
"I would like to congratulate Vera on a great fight," said Steward. “Andy was enjoying himself in the first two rounds. Brian was able to work the inside better than Andy. Andy was landing the cleaner punches but Brian got Andy to working more than we anticipated.” Steward had no objection to the stoppage except to comment: “I thought it was bad timing in the way that Andy landed the last punch.” The trainer of dozens of champions and the respected HBO analyst observed, "This could be the beginning of a great series. Boxing has been giving fans some great fights lately and Lee-Vera II is one that must be made. It's the right thing to do and it would be good for boxing!"
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So people can say what they want... The stopage was great. When it was stopped did anyone see lee even hold up a glove in protest? No... H e hobbled himself back to the corner to get his eye worked on... If someone doesn't think the stopage was good... Ask andy lee!

This would be a great fight to make. Vera makes lee work. If lee wants to win the rematch he's gonna have to find a way to make and KEEP sparation. Vera on the inside is nice.

Yeah another fight would be good.

And I will ask Andy;D

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Yeah another fight would be good.

And I will ask Andy;D

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I don't care if he landed that last lucky punch... The ref had started the stoppage slightly prior to that.

Lee was busted up something fierce and what?... Vera was........ tired






Hey, I'll be the first to say I thought lee was gonna walk in the ring and box Vera's trunks off.... Like so bad Brian would walk off the canvas naked...;D


But Vera didn't allow that to happen. Had it not bee stopped then... Half way through the next round.

Tried to get a pic wih andy but he went to the hospital.

Hey,

GREAT job on the Macklin RBR... It was really good!

Not being a blind fan, I had said I wanted Lee's chin tested, but I feel he'll learn and win the rematch.

I wasn't happy with my Macklin article at all, I can write better, I had loads of time and everything I just was rusty I guess.

Cracking into another now.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Not being a blind fan, I had said I wanted Lee's chin tested, but I feel he'll learn and win the rematch.

I wasn't happy with my Macklin article at all, I can write better, I had loads of time and everything I just was rusty I guess.

Cracking into another now.

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I thought it was pretty good...

Thanks Pride man, I appreciate that man:)

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Thanks Pride man, I appreciate that man:)

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Hey... Did you get a chance to read this prior to the Katsidis figth?

http://www.saddoboxing.com/7028-michael-katsidis-3.html

Cool man!
I hadn't read it before now, but I like it a lot!
Often I miss the front page stuff because I'm rushed, but I'll be checking it from now on.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Cool man!
I hadn't read it before now, but I like it a lot!
Often I miss the front page stuff because I'm rushed, but I'll be checking it from now on.

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Do you have a large version of that Sig?

I do have a large version actually, but the large version wouldn fit so I resized it with pix resizer.
you want me to e mail it on.

The rematch is possibly going to happen on July 25th.

Brian Vera-Andy Lee Rematch Tentatively Set For July

yeah another fight will happen

def props to Vera if he takes a rematch..

I really think Andy Lee could win this soundly, and with Steward making sure that he keeps his distance, i don't see Lee having any issues avenging his loss..

with that said, if it turns into a slug fest again, then Vera seemed to have the better chin and absorb more shots and give just even more than he took..

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I do have a large version actually, but the large version wouldn fit so I resized it with pix resizer.
you want me to e mail it on.

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Sure... still have my email?

You give me your e mail before:confused:

I didn't think you did, but I have been getting knocked in the head a lot.

I'm very confident that Lee can finish off Vera this time around.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm very confident that Lee can finish off Vera this time around.

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Me too, it was a mistake in strategy on Lee and Steward's part.


I think this is what added up to defeat for Andy Lee

#1 Andy Lee's early knockdown of Vera aided his ego too much and he tried too hard for the big KO

#2 Manny's lack of success with Pryor Jr. in a more difficult than anticipated undercard fight

#3 Andy Lee being more willing to engage in toe to toe/punch for punch exchanges rather than just boxing.

#4 Vera didn't get distracted at all he did what worked and kept at it. He got to the inside and let his hands go.

#5 Lee didn't figure out that his power didn't hurt Vera until it was waaaay too late and Lee had (as Billy Conn put it) "got his Irish up" and started to brawl.


Andy just needs to fight smarter and be more effective with his defense

According to a report in Dan Rafael's Notebook today, there will be no rematch. Jeff Wald says that he is looking at other fights for Vera.

ESPN - Notebook: It's Big Show time for Mayweather - Boxing

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm very confident that Lee can finish off Vera this time around.

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Me too, it was a mistake in strategy on Lee and Steward's part.


I think this is what added up to defeat for Andy Lee

#1 Andy Lee's early knockdown of Vera aided his ego too much and he tried too hard for the big KO

#2 Manny's lack of success with Pryor Jr. in a more difficult than anticipated undercard fight

#3 Andy Lee being more willing to engage in toe to toe/punch for punch exchanges rather than just boxing.

#4 Vera didn't get distracted at all he did what worked and kept at it. He got to the inside and let his hands go.

#5 Lee didn't figure out that his power didn't hurt Vera until it was waaaay too late and Lee had (as Billy Conn put it) "got his Irish up" and started to brawl.


Andy just needs to fight smarter and be more effective with his defense

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Great analysis... Think thats pretty much it to a tee.

It's the only time I've seen Lee (+ one knockout on youtube), he seemed to think he was a puncher and was expecing an early night IMO, throwing single shots and admiring his own work before making an effort to get out of range. He'll need to work on his stamina and footwork before the rematch or he'll be pulled into a brawl again, he looked tired half way through the 4th. He also looked dry, not properly warmed up maybe at the start.

From that fight alone he looked anything but the world beater Manny proclaimed, however I'll reserve judgement til I see if he can make the changes for the rematch. I don't think all the talk Manny made before the fight helped, defo gave him overconfidence.

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Originally Posted by Diane

According to a report in Dan Rafael's Notebook today, there will be no rematch. Jeff Wald says that he is looking at other fights for Vera.

ESPN - Notebook: It's Big Show time for Mayweather - Boxing

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To be honest I'm quite pleased by this. The Lee camp only want a rematch so they can knock Vera out and earn a quick redemption. Nothing wrong with that but Vera has his own interests to look out for.

If I was Vera's management I'd avoid Andy Lee for sure, he won't win again imo and instead go after a fight with John Duddy, Paul Smith, Peter Manfredo or Joey Spina.

All tough but potentiall winnable fights and they would all have popular crowd support.