Kessler's Demands

This is courtesy of Dan Rafael of ESPN.COM/Boxing. Kessler said he would only fight Miranda if all 16 of these terms were met; Miranda aggreed to every term, yet Kesler still backed out.

1. Date of bout to be May 24, 2008.

2. Scheduled for 10 rounds.

3. Kessler purse: 400,000 euros under a provision of services agreement in which promoter pays this total amount to International Entertainment of Denmark. Full payment made through irrevocable letter of credit to IE's designated bank by close of business local time (at bank location) 14 days before the bout.

4. Kessler training expenses: $50,000 U.S. dollars to be paid upon signing of contract to IE by bank wire to IE designated bank. Kessler will train in the United States for one month prior to bout.

5. Fight must take place in any of the United States except for Florida. Fight venue cannot be at any venue or property owned in part or in full or operated in part or in fill by the Seminole Tribe of Florida or Seminole Warriors Boxing. Fight cannot take place on any tribal land or at any tribal owned hotel or casino without prior approval of Kessler.

6. Both boxers may choose any brand of gloves acceptable to local commission.

7. Kessler to weigh in second, to enter the ring second as higher-ranked fighter.

8. Weight for the fight is 168-pound limit.

9. Fight to be televised on Showtime.

10. Air travel: IE to receive equivalent amount to pay roundtrip three business air tickets from Denmark to the United States and three roundtrip coach tickets from Denmark to United States. Promoter pays this amount to IE. IE will purchase tickets on its own. Promoter to supply three business-class tickets (and) three roundtrip tickets from Kessler USA training site to venue.

11. Promoter to provide first-class ground transportation upon arrival of Kessler team in United States and upon arrival and for every day required to be at venue.

12. First-class quality hotel: One suite, five regular rooms for Kessler team for each day required to be at venue.

13. Food per diem: $100 per day for each day at venue for two people, and $75 per day for each day at venue for four people.

14. Bout tickets/credentials: Ten all-access, including in the ring access credentials to be given to IE prior to final prefight press conference. Twenty ringside tickets, 10 in first row and 10 in second row of ringside, all close to Kessler's corner.

15. TV/Radio/Internet rights: Exclusive live rights plus exclusive rights in perpetuity for IE for Nordic countries of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and also for Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Luxembourg.

16. Bout to be conducted, no matter the venue, under unified rules of the ABC (Association of Boxing Commissions).

It`s certainly a strange one. After reading his demands I was quite suprised that the list didnt include someone to wipe his arse as well.

I look forward to seeing who Kessler will be matched with in the future as this was an ideal fight to re-establish himself.

i don't know why he didn't take the fight.

I can only hope that a better offer was tabled, we will see.

Maybe he didn't really want the fight.

Or maybe that's what most contracts look like. For all we know, that could be quite normal. :confused:

I'd imagine thats all pretty standard stuff.

You don't make demands and then back out once they are agreed upon for no reason. There must be a bigger fish in the picture.

Those demands are actually fair.

Keslers management are hard negotiators and I can only presume KESSLER WANT STO FIGHT IN eUROPE.

I'm really surprise of this new , but i hope they could fix their problems and differences.......

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Who knows maybe he's thinking a little bit bigger.Maybe he's trying to get a tune-up fight and Miranda another tune-up this way it will make it bigger.Or Kessler is a being bitch and just is dosen't want to fight him.He anything is possible and with the previous list I've seen he definetly has no excuse to back out.

has this dude ever fought in the u.s?

maybe thats y

It is not backing out if you are just in a negotiation type setting. They are just playing with variables and opponents to get a good one.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

I'd imagine thats all pretty standard stuff.

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Yup...thought so too...I'm not in the box business,but Kessler is a top ranked fighter and the 16 points doesn't sound too extravagant...

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Those demands are actually fair.

Keslers management are hard negotiators and I can only presume KESSLER WANT STO FIGHT IN eUROPE.

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Something wrong with your keyboard...?!? ;D

Does anyone know what his problem is with the Seminole company, or Florida?

I gotta say being a hard-core Kess fan I'm really gutted at this.

If anyone comes across why Kess pulled out please post it.

Really disappointed in Kessler. Unless he has a big fight lined up. He's going out like a straight coward

These demands are much more then normal. They asked above and beyond what a typical contract asks for, but still ran away after the Miranda team said ok to EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kessler is a pussy. Miranda takes on everyone and is not afraid.

Kessler has dropped down a notch in my estimation, looks like he is going to turn into an asshole! I like him as a fighter but now i am kind of wishing someone knocks his big head right out!

I'm not a Kessler fan and I'm sure not a Miranda fan,but I would definitly have seen the fight...And whatever reason Kessler has...to say:

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Originally Posted by Master

Kessler is a pussy. Miranda takes on everyone and is not afraid.

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...is just stupid...Kessler fought better opponents than Miranda ever will be and only lost to Calzaghe...Why the hell would Kessler be afraid of Miranda ?!?

You tell me, Kessler was the one that pulled out of the fight.:confused:

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You tell me, Kessler was the one that pulled out of the fight.:confused:

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I don't know the reason as could be deduced from my statement above,but I think its pretty safe to say its not fear...

Now it seems strange to me that many are calling Kessler scared when he may be the most courageous fighter around.
Wins title for the first time, so instead of taking an easy first defense goes after dangerous challenger Mundine in Mundines hometown.
Then he is willing to put up all hos three hard earned belts to fight Joe Calzaghe in Wales. I mean he could have kept hold of the belts, dodged Joe and been champ for years. Instead he tried to prove he was the best by fighting the recognised champ in his backyard. Hardly the move of a coward.

Now he backs out of a fight with a guy he'd beat everyday and twice on sunday and he is a coward? Bit harsh, especially seeing noone really knows the reason behind it.

Well I just read an Interview with Kessler, (its in danish) he says there is a good change he will be ranked as the official contender to Mundines WBA "title".

Mundine has already had 3 voulentary defenses against handpicked opponents and will be force to make an offical titeldefense, they will not accept Sam soliman again.

Kessler think that a belt is more important than Miranda , and states that we has no problem by facing Miranda later on.

They hope it will be in Denmark but Kessler see no problem in going down under once more if nessesary.

18-03-2008

If everything goes according to the plan, my next opponent is going to be Edison Miranda 30 (KO 26) + lost 2 (KO 1). The exact date and place is still to be announced.

I have seen a few of his fights and besides being a good boxer he has got a great fighter mentality. After my opinion he has only lost one fight as he was robbed against Arthur Abraham in Germany.
I'm really looking forward to fight again even though it's a short notice.

My plan is to set up a camp in USA to get some new inputs and to acclimatise, but for now nothing is sure.
I'm really looking forward to box in the states again and even though it's far from little Denmark, I know that I will feel great.

Mikkel Kessler
http://www.mikkelkessler.com/newslet..._signature.jpg

Source: http://www.mikkelkessler.com/default.asp?language=enuk#
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So what changed, Mikkel? http://www.livefight.com/forum/Smile...onkey_what.gif

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Originally Posted by thewhale

Well I just read an Interview with Kessler, (its in danish) he says there is a good change he will be ranked as the official contender to Mundines WBA "title".

Mundine has already had 3 voulentary defenses against handpicked opponents and will be force to make an offical titeldefense, they will not accept Sam soliman again.

Kessler think that a belt is more important than Miranda , and states that we has no problem by facing Miranda later on.

They hope it will be in Denmark but Kessler see no problem in going down under once more if nessesary.

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I hope this is the reason why. I think a Kessler v Mundine match now would be a lot closer than the first fight, especially if it is down under again.
Mundine has a big name in oz and Kess oculd make millions by fighting here, much more than the 400,000 offered to fight Miranda.

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Originally Posted by eagle

Now it seems strange to me that many are calling Kessler scared when he may be the most courageous fighter around.
Wins title for the first time, so instead of taking an easy first defense goes after dangerous challenger Mundine in Mundines hometown.
Then he is willing to put up all hos three hard earned belts to fight Joe Calzaghe in Wales. I mean he could have kept hold of the belts, dodged Joe and been champ for years. Instead he tried to prove he was the best by fighting the recognised champ in his backyard. Hardly the move of a coward.

Now he backs out of a fight with a guy he'd beat everyday and twice on sunday and he is a coward? Bit harsh, especially seeing noone really knows the reason behind it.

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I hear what you are saying eagle, he lost no credibility losing to Calzaghe in Joe ball's backyard, he needs a strong comeback fight and Miranda is to dangerous a prospect for him with nothing on the line but a ten rounder! I think Kessler is protecting himself and that credibility for as long as he can, if he loses again first up after the Calzaghe fight he is done for as a drawcard in the States for sometime. I think he would beat Miranda too, i guess he has his doubts!

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Does anyone know what his problem is with the Seminole company, or Florida?

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Miranda lives in Florida I'm guessing, or at least in Florida would be considered a local fighter. Thats the only reason I'd think of, if he doesnt, correct me.

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Does anyone know what his problem is with the Seminole company, or Florida?

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Miranda is promoted by Warriors Boxing, a promotional group owned by members of the Seminole tribe. Obviously Kessler didn't want to fight on Seminole ground against a Seminole promoted fighter.

Thanks guys ... now that clause makes a bit more sense to me.

Reps to you both

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Originally Posted by eagle

Now it seems strange to me that many are calling Kessler scared when he may be the most courageous fighter around.
Wins title for the first time, so instead of taking an easy first defense goes after dangerous challenger Mundine in Mundines hometown.
Then he is willing to put up all hos three hard earned belts to fight Joe Calzaghe in Wales. I mean he could have kept hold of the belts, dodged Joe and been champ for years. Instead he tried to prove he was the best by fighting the recognised champ in his backyard. Hardly the move of a coward.

Now he backs out of a fight with a guy he'd beat everyday and twice on sunday and he is a coward? Bit harsh, especially seeing noone really knows the reason behind it.

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:appl: Very well said...
I'm sending some Rep. your way...

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Originally Posted by thewhale

Well I just read an Interview with Kessler, (its in danish) he says there is a good change he will be ranked as the official contender to Mundines WBA "title".

Mundine has already had 3 voulentary defenses against handpicked opponents and will be force to make an offical titeldefense, they will not accept Sam soliman again.

Kessler think that a belt is more important than Miranda , and states that we has no problem by facing Miranda later on.

They hope it will be in Denmark but Kessler see no problem in going down under once more if nessesary.

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Thanks for the news sending some Rep. your way...
Now that makes sense to me....
I would not be pissed if he went after Mundine.
That would def. answer a lot and speak volumes for not fighting Miranda.

Mikkels aware of his options and fighting Mundine is something he want's then that's great plus it'll be for a title which is much more then what Miranda can bring.

400,000 euros to fight Miranda?

Yet some think it's not so bad when you lose the 0.. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by thewhale

Well I just read an Interview with Kessler, (its in danish) he says there is a good change he will be ranked as the official contender to Mundines WBA "title".

Mundine has already had 3 voulentary defenses against handpicked opponents and will be force to make an offical titeldefense, they will not accept Sam soliman again.

Kessler think that a belt is more important than Miranda , and states that we has no problem by facing Miranda later on.

They hope it will be in Denmark but Kessler see no problem in going down under once more if nessesary.

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Kessler is the one that stated he wanted a high profile fight on American soil. If a junior alphabet title is what he seeks, against an opponent he has already beaten, to me it still adds up to avoiding the unknown in Miranda.
It is all rinse and repeat crap to me.

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Well I just read an Interview with Kessler, (its in danish) he says there is a good change he will be ranked as the official contender to Mundines WBA "title".

Mundine has already had 3 voulentary defenses against handpicked opponents and will be force to make an offical titeldefense, they will not accept Sam soliman again.

Kessler think that a belt is more important than Miranda , and states that we has no problem by facing Miranda later on.

They hope it will be in Denmark but Kessler see no problem in going down under once more if nessesary.

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Miranda is the one that stated he wanted a high profile fight on American soil. If a junior alphabet title is what he seeks, against an opponent he has already beaten, to me it still adds up to avoiding the unknown in Miranda.
It is all rinse and repeat crap to me.

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So what your saying is that to you it means more if Kess fought Miranda who just got his feet wet in the SMW with 2 decent wins over Porras and Banks.
Over Kess fighting Mundine who holds a piece of the crown with the WBA belt. Who's working on his 4th defense and at least is a stable SMW fighter who holds a lot more ground the Miranda.

You can't blame Kess for wanting to regain a title. You just can't I could see if Kess opted out to fight Jaidon or Jesse Brinkley. Then I see what you mean but calling this a rinse and repeat is over the top the guy just lost a fight and is going after a title holder what's wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by thewhale

Well I just read an Interview with Kessler, (its in danish) he says there is a good change he will be ranked as the official contender to Mundines WBA "title".

Mundine has already had 3 voulentary defenses against handpicked opponents and will be force to make an offical titeldefense, they will not accept Sam soliman again.

Kessler think that a belt is more important than Miranda , and states that we has no problem by facing Miranda later on.

They hope it will be in Denmark but Kessler see no problem in going down under once more if nessesary.

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Miranda is the one that stated he wanted a high profile fight on American soil. If a junior alphabet title is what he seeks, against an opponent he has already beaten, to me it still adds up to avoiding the unknown in Miranda.
It is all rinse and repeat crap to me.

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So what your saying is that to you it means more if Kess fought Miranda who just got his feet wet in the SMW with 2 decent wins over Porras and Banks.
Over Kess fighting Mundine who holds a piece of the crown with the WBA belt. Who's working on his 4th defense and at least is a stable SMW fighter who holds a lot more ground the Miranda.

You can't blame Kess for wanting to regain a title. You just can't I could see if Kess opted out to fight Jaidon or Jesse Brinkley. Then I see what you mean but calling this a rinse and repeat is over the top the guy just lost a fight and is going after a title holder what's wrong with that?

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This whole mess has left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean Kessler came to the States looking for a high profile fight. He was offered one against an exciting, brawling, take no prisoners guy. it is not even a real alphabet title but a junior one. To me it just seems like a safer route more than a smart choice.

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Miranda is the one that stated he wanted a high profile fight on American soil. If a junior alphabet title is what he seeks, against an opponent he has already beaten, to me it still adds up to avoiding the unknown in Miranda.
It is all rinse and repeat crap to me.

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So what your saying is that to you it means more if Kess fought Miranda who just got his feet wet in the SMW with 2 decent wins over Porras and Banks.
Over Kess fighting Mundine who holds a piece of the crown with the WBA belt. Who's working on his 4th defense and at least is a stable SMW fighter who holds a lot more ground the Miranda.

You can't blame Kess for wanting to regain a title. You just can't I could see if Kess opted out to fight Jaidon or Jesse Brinkley. Then I see what you mean but calling this a rinse and repeat is over the top the guy just lost a fight and is going after a title holder what's wrong with that?

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This whole mess has left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean Kessler came to the States looking for a high profile fight. He was offered one against an exciting, brawling, take no prisoners guy. it is not even a real alphabet title but a junior one. To me it just seems like a safer route more than a smart choice.

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What do you mean about it being a junior title.
The WBA became the WBA after the NYSC and the NBA joined.
It's argueably the more recognized as far as history goes.

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Miranda is the one that stated he wanted a high profile fight on American soil. If a junior alphabet title is what he seeks, against an opponent he has already beaten, to me it still adds up to avoiding the unknown in Miranda.
It is all rinse and repeat crap to me.

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So what your saying is that to you it means more if Kess fought Miranda who just got his feet wet in the SMW with 2 decent wins over Porras and Banks.
Over Kess fighting Mundine who holds a piece of the crown with the WBA belt. Who's working on his 4th defense and at least is a stable SMW fighter who holds a lot more ground the Miranda.

You can't blame Kess for wanting to regain a title. You just can't I could see if Kess opted out to fight Jaidon or Jesse Brinkley. Then I see what you mean but calling this a rinse and repeat is over the top the guy just lost a fight and is going after a title holder what's wrong with that?

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This whole mess has left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean Kessler came to the States looking for a high profile fight. He was offered one against an exciting, brawling, take no prisoners guy. it is not even a real alphabet title but a junior one. To me it just seems like a safer route more than a smart choice.

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How is it the safer route when Mundine is arguably the better fighter than Pantera?

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So what your saying is that to you it means more if Kess fought Miranda who just got his feet wet in the SMW with 2 decent wins over Porras and Banks.
Over Kess fighting Mundine who holds a piece of the crown with the WBA belt. Who's working on his 4th defense and at least is a stable SMW fighter who holds a lot more ground the Miranda.

You can't blame Kess for wanting to regain a title. You just can't I could see if Kess opted out to fight Jaidon or Jesse Brinkley. Then I see what you mean but calling this a rinse and repeat is over the top the guy just lost a fight and is going after a title holder what's wrong with that?

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This whole mess has left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean Kessler came to the States looking for a high profile fight. He was offered one against an exciting, brawling, take no prisoners guy. it is not even a real alphabet title but a junior one. To me it just seems like a safer route more than a smart choice.

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What do you mean about it being a junior title.
The WBA became the WBA after the NYSC and the NBA joined.
It's argueably the more recognized as far as history goes.

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I meant it by Joe is still recognized as the WBA super champ, and Mundine is the WBA world champ. While Joe has the title, Mundine's is meaningless.

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So what your saying is that to you it means more if Kess fought Miranda who just got his feet wet in the SMW with 2 decent wins over Porras and Banks.
Over Kess fighting Mundine who holds a piece of the crown with the WBA belt. Who's working on his 4th defense and at least is a stable SMW fighter who holds a lot more ground the Miranda.

You can't blame Kess for wanting to regain a title. You just can't I could see if Kess opted out to fight Jaidon or Jesse Brinkley. Then I see what you mean but calling this a rinse and repeat is over the top the guy just lost a fight and is going after a title holder what's wrong with that?

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This whole mess has left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean Kessler came to the States looking for a high profile fight. He was offered one against an exciting, brawling, take no prisoners guy. it is not even a real alphabet title but a junior one. To me it just seems like a safer route more than a smart choice.

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How is it the safer route when Mundine is arguably the better fighter than Pantera?

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I'm trying to figure that out myself.