If ODLH Beat Mayweather In The Rematch Would You Consider It A Big Upset ??

Thoughts ??

NO

It was a SD last time time.

That means Oscar only has to fight the same fight and will get the verdict setting up the 3rd one. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

NO

It was a SD last time time.

That means Oscar only has to fight the same fight and will get the verdict setting up the 3rd one. Fact.

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Mayweather worked out ODLH in the middle rounds by countering over his jab, don't you think Mayweather will have an easier time now he knows what tactics to use ??

I didn't see Mayweather throw anything over the Jab...Oscar just stopped throwing it.

Any tactic changes Floyd makes Oscar can too. So the "fight" will be very similar

If Oscar didn't think he could beat Floyd the first fight wouldn't have happened.. same goes again methinks

Definitely not an upset for me. I'm one of the many boxing fans who believes that ODLH could(and should) have won that first fight.:cool:

I would deem it an upset, yes.

ICB is asking if you'd consider it a "BIG" upset.. meaning it's OBVIOUSLY an upset considering if the contender/underdog beats the champ, ITS and upset..

so yes, it would be an upset.. i'd say a moderate upset.. you have to factor in that DLH generally speaking is not as "good" as Floyd, making it an upset in the first place.. secondly that he is older and past his best days (still a great fighter though obviously)..

We all know Floyd talks a big talk, but he said he was on his "C game" the night of that fight, and that the next one will be no problem if he brings his A game..

The fight lies in Oscar's hands.. it's tough to figure because Floyd really was doing the bare minimum to win, and very few times did he do more.. You can say if Oscar jabbed his way in he would've been more successful, but Floyd would've eventually adapted.. so it's a tough call..

Upset? yes.. Big Upset? eh, definitely an uphill battle for Oscar, so a moderate upset.

Definatly an upset, but I don't see it is a BIG upset.

People forget that Oscar has a HUGE size/strength advantage on PBF and is an extremely skilled fighter with quick hands. I think people underestimate the accomplishment it was for FLoyd to beat DLH

Agreed, it was a close fight. I hope ODH wins because I do not want to see Hatton beat up by Mayweather again, I much prefer if it was ODH this time.;D

Ok let me just play Devil's Adovate here.

Most of you will say that Floyd is the best p4p fighter in the world.

Most of you recognise that Oscar is stll good enough to give him a really tough fight and in fact wouldnt consider it a big upset even if Floyd lost.

So why the hell do so many people moan about him taking the fight :confused:

It would be an upset in the sense that Floyd lost his 0 not so much that Oscar beat him....

IMO Floyd will be his own downfall...If he keeps up these outside endevours, and trying to live the celeberty life it will eventually catch up with him....I don't care how much he trains, the condition he keeps himself in etc....Floyd will buy into his "I am unbeatable" act one too many times and it will bite him in the ass....Maybe not in a rematch with DLH but eventually...Unless he is smart and only takes one or two more fights then calls it a day

not a big upset by any means. considering most people consider ODH past his prime he was doing a good job and was winning. I thought the stamina went and it cost him the fight. I want him to win but I'm not sure he can overcome that fade he's shown in several fights.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Ok let me just play Devil's Adovate here.

Most of you will say that Floyd is the best p4p fighter in the world.

Most of you recognise that Oscar is stll good enough to give him a really tough fight and in fact wouldnt consider it a big upset even if Floyd lost.

So why the hell do so many people moan about him taking the fight :confused:

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Miguel Cotto. Mayweather should be fighting him no more excuses.

(I put this on the other thread - fighter you hate, when I should have put it here)

It was a split last time! I have no problem with Mayweather taking the fight so long as it's not as boring as the first.

Yeah it would be an upset. I don't see it. Floyd will learn from his mistakes and won't lose. It'll be similar to the 2nd Castillo fight. Close shave the first time, clear winner the 2nd.

Anyone who thought that fight was close is retarded, not new or naive in the ways of scoring boxing fights, but retarded.

I think it would be an upset at this stage of DLH's career, can't see it happening though.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Anyone who thought that fight was close is retarded, not new or naive in the ways of scoring boxing fights, but retarded.

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I'm inclined to agree. Wasn't that DLH didn't do well and win some rounds... But at the most 4 or 5, and it was very plain to see he couldn't have been given the nod.

I don't see how it was possible to give him over 4 rounds personally.. the reast FLoyd clearly outpunched him... HBO was out to lunch on this fight, same with the Hatton fight.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I would deem it an upset, yes.

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I will wait to see the spoilers and then if it is any good I watch it recorded because I ain't paying for this crap

I'd consider it an upset. I mean Floyd is ranked #1 P4P in the world while DLH isn't even in the top 10. I thought the 1st fight was close but Floyd deserved the victory. If Oscar had of stuck with the jab he could have pulled it off IMO. I think Floyd has to be the favorite going in so a DLH victory would definitely be an upset!

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I'd consider it an upset. I mean Floyd is ranked #1 P4P in the world while DLH isn't even in the top 10. I thought the 1st fight was close but Floyd deserved the victory. If Oscar had of stuck with the jab he could have pulled it off IMO. I think Floyd has to be the favorite going in so a DLH victory would definitely be an upset!

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If Oscar wins it I hope he fights Cotto next because Floyd ain't

I'd consider it an upset, by my observation Mayweather won almost every round of the first fight. I thought the SD was way off base.

Like always I am starting to look forward to this fight even though I swore I would never pay to see them fight again...

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I'd consider it an upset. I mean Floyd is ranked #1 P4P in the world while DLH isn't even in the top 10. I thought the 1st fight was close but Floyd deserved the victory. If Oscar had of stuck with the jab he could have pulled it off IMO. I think Floyd has to be the favorite going in so a DLH victory would definitely be an upset!

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If Oscar wins it I hope he fights Cotto next because Floyd ain't

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I agree who ever wins needs to fight Cotto next. If Cotto can deal with the winner of Margarito/ Cintron & Floyd defeats De La Hoya again we should hopefully get Mayweather/ Cotto in early 09. Wishful thinking!

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I would deem it an upset, yes.

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I will wait to see the spoilers and then if it is any good I watch it recorded because I ain't paying for this crap

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I totally agree with Taeth it wasn't that close on my scorecard either, i had two different scorecards when i watched it, i believe it had it 8-4 or 7-4-1 in favor of Mayweather, and as for your comment Bruce you can't be serious you actually had ODLH winning there fight ??

I really don't think that it would be an upset, it would be semi-surprising. I think ODLH is getting old and he's always been somewhat overrated, but I can't deny the fact that he's always fought the best, he's an elite talent with a gold medal amateur background, and he's still a naturally much bigger man than Floyd. I don't see anything changing from the first fight though.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Ok let me just play Devil's Adovate here.

Most of you will say that Floyd is the best p4p fighter in the world.

Most of you recognise that Oscar is stll good enough to give him a really tough fight and in fact wouldnt consider it a big upset even if Floyd lost.

So why the hell do so many people moan about him taking the fight :confused:

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Because as capable as De La Hoya still is, he doesn't deserve to fight Mayweather. At least the first time he had a title and it was at a weight Mayweather had never explored. Now De La Hoya has no title, he's already lost to Floyd, he's coming down to fight him at welterweight or a 150 catch weight and he hasn't beaten anyone significant in the past six, count 'em SIX years. Mayweather, Mayorga, Hopkins, Sturm, Mosley, Campas, VARGAS.

Excellent post Liquid. IU would consider it a huge upset. Oscar is old,lost their last fight and hasn't won a big fight for a long long time. And the weight will be a factor. Pointless rematch.

to me yes it would be