Should Mosely vs Judah be a PPV

I personally think this sucks for Americans that this fight is a PPV event.

Mosely has never been big box office, Judah hasn't won a fight worth mentioning since Cory Spinks, they both lost their last fights to Miguel Cotto.

Who decided this should be PPV?

This won't get more than 150,000 buys imo, in fact I'd consider it a 'success' if it got near 100,000.

It's a fight between two fighters on a losing streak, one old, the other washed up I can't see how HBO are charging for this?

Don't get me wrong I think it will be an entertaining fight but it should be a freebie, not a fucking PPV

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

No!!!!!

They both just lost to Cotto, and they get a consolation prize of a PPV fight against each other?

It should be a good fight, but it should not be a PPV!

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Originally Posted by Diane

No!!!!!

They both just lost to Cotto, and they get a consolation prize of a PPV fight against each other?

It should be a good fight, but it should not be a PPV!

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We should cherish this moment Diane, a post where we are in agreement for the first time :)

The fight is on Pay-per-view because of scheduling conflicts. HBO already had its May schedule laid out, and rather then wait till the end of the year sugar shane and zab will fight on PPV.


A lot fights end up on PPV because either HBO has used up its WCB budget or it can not fit it in their schedule.

It's only PPV because GBP is trying to squeeze every dime they can out of people

I found that kinda odd myself, but Lance gave a great answer.

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

The fight is on Pay-per-view because of scheduling conflicts. HBO already had its May schedule laid out, and rather then wait till the end of the year sugar shane and zab will fight on PPV.


A lot fights end up on PPV because either HBO has used up its WCB budget or it can not fit it in their schedule.

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Ah good answer I'm completely unfamiliar with how these things work.

Is it a full priced PPV or are they charging less?

Then they should have put this fight on the CW. Neither fighter has ever had the shoulders to carry a PPV fight. It's all been based on the other guy's reputation. You can't just toss everything on PPV that falls outside of your budget. That's not how you ingratiate yourself to fans. Look at what Elite XC is doing, they're carrying the show over to CBS--how can they make that work but boxing and HBO can't?

There had been talk about this having a great undercard, Barrios-Juarez, Caballero-Ponce 2, and Bika-Codrington 2 but I'm not sure if any of that came off.

But yeah to be a decent PPV its gonna need a great undercard. Cause the main fight, unless Mosley turns shot overnight, is thoroughly predictable.

Lance, you must mean Boxing After Dark as neither Judah or Mosley are champions. HBO said they would be doing fewer PPVs to give fans more accessibility. If not CW then they should have farmed it out to ESPN.

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

The fight is on Pay-per-view because of scheduling conflicts. HBO already had its May schedule laid out, and rather then wait till the end of the year sugar shane and zab will fight on PPV.


A lot fights end up on PPV because either HBO has used up its WCB budget or it can not fit it in their schedule.

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Ah good answer I'm completely unfamiliar with how these things work.

Is it a full priced PPV or are they charging less?

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It will be regular priced.

Dan Rafael of ESPN.COM/Boxing often discusses how fights are made and what networks get them.

At the beginning of the year, HBO sets out its budgets for WCB and boxing after dark, and they lay out a schedule of how many fights they will air.

When a fight comes a long that is either not in the budget or cannot fit in the schedule it is placed on PPV.

In fact, the boxing team at HBO hated that they had to put Pavlik vs Taylor on PPV, but they had no other choice.

ESPN pays very little money for the fights that they show, and they have a very small boxing budget. I have read that ESPN headliners usually make under $15,000. So it would be unrealistic for Zab and Shane to fight on ESPN.

You do know that April Fools Day is tommorrow don't you.

The only reason I thought of was this could be the end of the road for one of them and it's the last chance to cash it.

Call me old fashioned but no fight should be on PPV, if we subscribe to the channel then that is all we should have to pay.

Is it going to be shown over here in England?

Golden Boy is currently working on bringing boxing back to free TV in the US.

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Call me old fashioned but no fight should be on PPV, if we subscribe to the channel then that is all we should have to pay.

Is it going to be shown over here in England?

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I'm with this guy;D;D;D;D

Shane deserves good money fights. He's never failed to deliver a great show of effort at least. Zab's 9 lives are just about out. I thought they were gone but then this fight came up. I like Shane's comment about not taking his $100k bet cause Zab's gonna need the money. That's probably the truest prefight prediction in years...

Why do I wanna see Zab get knocked out again for fifty dollars? Excuse me $49.95 taxes and fees.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I personally think this sucks for Americans that this fight is a PPV event.

Mosely has never been big box office, Judah hasn't won a fight worth mentioning since Cory Spinks, they both lost their last fights to Miguel Cotto.

Who decided this should be PPV?

This won't get more than 150,000 buys imo, in fact I'd consider it a 'success' if it got near 100,000.

It's a fight between two fighters on a losing streak, one old, the other washed up I can't see how HBO are charging for this?

Don't get me wrong I think it will be an entertaining fight but it should be a freebie, not a fucking PPV

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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Bilbs, my answer is no.
But bare with me as I explain this to you:
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post490599

I don't think it should necessarily be PPV, but I will pay for it, just to watch Mosley make Judah go into his mental turtle shell. I'll pay for this before I pay to watch another Mayweather/DeLaHoya.

I think if that fight was for Championship , i agree that they be a PPV because they are a great boxers and that going be a great fight too , but it should not be at PPV........

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Absolutely not. Zab is not worthy of headlining a PPV fight at this point and Mosley is coming off a loss. For a PPV fight, one of the fighters should hold a belt or at worst be coming off a big win. I like both fighters and Im sure it will be a good fight but there are a lot of good fights on ESPN and those guys fight just as hard and dont even make close to PPV money in their entire careers.

Both these guys are gonna want to probably make in the 3-5 Million dollar range and the only way they can make that is by making the fight PPV. I'm not sure the PPV does that well IMO though. HBO would not pay for this type of fight anyway with both guys coming off of losses and both reaching the end of their stardom. Even if they had it in their budget, I don't think they'd pay. HBO has been pretty good this year in having high quality fights on WCB and BAD so I'm not gonna bitch.

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Originally Posted by Diane

No!!!!!

They both just lost to Cotto, and they get a consolation prize of a PPV fight against each other?

It should be a good fight, but it should not be a PPV!

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We should cherish this moment Diane, a post where we are in agreement for the first time :)

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Yes, you should cherish the moment, because on the few occassions that you agree with me, are the only times that you sound intelligent. ;) :lolhaha:

:thankyouthankyou:

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I personally think this sucks for Americans that this fight is a PPV event.

Mosely has never been big box office, Judah hasn't won a fight worth mentioning since Cory Spinks, they both lost their last fights to Miguel Cotto.

Who decided this should be PPV?

This won't get more than 150,000 buys imo, in fact I'd consider it a 'success' if it got near 100,000.

It's a fight between two fighters on a losing streak, one old, the other washed up I can't see how HBO are charging for this?

Don't get me wrong I think it will be an entertaining fight but it should be a freebie, not a fucking PPV

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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No fight should be PPV. But this fight promises Action packed rounds

I dont know Puya, I think the fight promises 3 action packed rounds at most before Zab malfunctions.