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PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
It seems that PACQUIAO is now one of the most indemand boxer...
vs. David Diaz in Las Vegas/June 2008
vs. Amir Khan in Dubai/November 2008
(link: Michael Marley’s Boxing Confidential – News, Analysis, and Commentary )
vs. Edwin Valero in Mexico/March 2009 (???)
(link: box EL PROYECTO: QUE PACQUIAO SE MIDA A VALERO EN ?HISTORIA EN CANCÚN II?: ANUNCIA PEPE GÓMEZ )
And there's still JMM begging and crying for a 3rd fight...
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
Wow he's ambitious.
I must admit the Khan fight idea has completely stumped me, I never expected that.
Imagine if the fight did take place and Amir actually won? He would go from not even ever having fought a top 10 Ring rated fighter in any division to beating the p4p number 2 fighter in the world.
Where would people rank him?
i personally very much doubt this will happen though.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
Wow he's ambitious.
I must admit the Khan fight idea has completely stumped me, I never expected that.
Imagine if the fight did take place and Amir actually won? He would go from not even ever having fought a top 10 Ring rated fighter in any division to beating the p4p number 2 fighter in the world.
Where would people rank him?
i personally very much doubt this will happen though.
Pacquiao would just wreck Con. Fukk it. Make the fight.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
Wow he's ambitious.
I must admit the Khan fight idea has completely stumped me, I never expected that.
Imagine if the fight did take place and Amir actually won? He would go from not even ever having fought a top 10 Ring rated fighter in any division to beating the p4p number 2 fighter in the world.
Where would people rank him?
i personally very much doubt this will happen though.
Pacquiao would just wreck Con. Fukk it. Make the fight.
PAC will outclass Amir but Amir will learn valuable lessons and priceless experience after the mauling by PAC...
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
Wow he's ambitious.
I must admit the Khan fight idea has completely stumped me, I never expected that.
Imagine if the fight did take place and Amir actually won? He would go from not even ever having fought a top 10 Ring rated fighter in any division to beating the p4p number 2 fighter in the world.
Where would people rank him?
i personally very much doubt this will happen though.
Pacquiao would just wreck Con. Fukk it. Make the fight.
PAC will outclass Amir but Amir will learn valuable lessons and priceless experience after the mauling by PAC...
What lesson? How to really get your ass kicked?
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Pacquiao would just wreck Con. Fukk it. Make the fight.
PAC will outclass Amir but Amir will learn valuable lessons and priceless experience after the mauling by PAC...
What lesson? How to really get your ass kicked?
I think a boxer will learn something from a defeat specially from a highly ranked opponent... Don't worry Amir will learn something... ;)
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
wow.. very tiring fight schedule huh? i have a feeling pac will call it quits after 2009 if this schedule pushes through. i doubt we will see him fight khan coz frank will not let his little boy be punked around. id rather see jmm pac III.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
Pac just need's to go on and whup David Diaz ass
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Bookkeeper
Pac just need's to go on and whup David Diaz ass
Yep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
josef4334
wow.. very tiring fight schedule huh? i have a feeling pac will call it quits after 2009 if this schedule pushes through. i doubt we will see him fight khan coz frank will not let his little boy be punked around. id rather see jmm pac III.
Yeah bro. I saw one of Pac's interview on tv just 2 weeks ago about that. He said his last fight would be in 2010, about 2 months away before the another political election. He's gonna run for the office again. I hope he'd loose again though. :)
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
Even though i would like to see Khan vs Pacquiao, Khan is nowhere near ready for someone like Pacquiao and he maybe never ready. Because Khan has a suspect chin and no one with a suspect chin beats Pacquiao especially with his devastating punching power.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
There's always talk of massive mega-fights happening in Dubai and the like.. do they ever happen? No. Not really surprising Khan-Pac is mooted for there
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That is a tough schedule for Pac, would he then be recognised as the best p4p fighter!
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Master
That is a tough schedule for Pac, would he then be recognised as the best p4p fighter!
He IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.
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yeah mcguigan (sp) was on about the khan - pac in his mirror column the other week and he claimed khan would beat him - i nearly choked to death on my morning coffee!
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
JLAQ
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Originally Posted by
Master
That is a tough schedule for Pac, would he then be recognised as the best p4p fighter!
He IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.
Seems I already owe you rep. In the post mate
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
JLAQ
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Originally Posted by
Master
That is a tough schedule for Pac, would he then be recognised as the best p4p fighter!
He IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.
I've got to agree with you JLAQ. Reps on your way.:cool:
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
fugaziuk
yeah mcguigan (sp) was on about the khan - pac in his mirror column the other week and he claimed khan would beat him - i nearly choked to death on my morning coffee!
I respect McGuigan as a fighter but he does normally get a lot of stuff wrong, and he just waffles on most of the time. Didn't he only have Lewis winning the 1st Holyfield vs Lewis fight by 1 point ??
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by
Bookkeeper
Pac just need's to go on and whup David Diaz ass
Yep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
A couple of things...
1) The Khan fight taking place in Dubai and the Valero fight taking place in Mexico?! I don't think that will happen. Pacquiao is too big to fight somewhere other than Vegas. MAYBE if he fought Valero somewhere other than Vegas could happen cause of him having trouble getting cleared for fights in the US.
2) If he is actually going to fight Diaz then Khan then Valero, it's probably because of the criticism Pacquiao gets for only fighting people "past their primes" (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). But to be honest with you, if he does get past these guys, then people will just say "these guys weren't ready for Pacquiao" or "they were too young and not tested yet."
3) If he does go for the path were he encounters Campbell and Casamayor and beats them, then continues the whole "Campbell and Casamayor have seen better days" comments.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
caleoh12
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by
Bookkeeper
Pac just need's to go on and whup David Diaz ass
Yep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
A couple of things...
1) The Khan fight taking place in Dubai and the Valero fight taking place in Mexico?! I don't think that will happen. Pacquiao is too big to fight somewhere other than Vegas. MAYBE if he fought Valero somewhere other than Vegas could happen cause of him having trouble getting cleared for fights in the US.
2) If he is actually going to fight Diaz then Khan then Valero, it's probably because of the criticism Pacquiao gets for only fighting people "past their primes" (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). But to be honest with you, if he does get past these guys, then people will just say "these guys weren't ready for Pacquiao" or "they were too young and not tested yet."
3) If he does go for the path were he encounters Campbell and Casamayor and beats them, then continues the whole "Campbell and Casamayor have seen better days" comments.
Well said caleoh. Reps on your way bro.:cool:
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Even though i would like to see Khan vs Pacquiao, Khan is nowhere near ready for someone like Pacquiao and he maybe never ready. Because Khan has a suspect chin and no one with a suspect chin beats Pacquiao especially with his devastating punching power.
People keep saying this but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest he has.
Willie Limond hurt him with a shot to the temple. Very similar to the one Corley hurt Cotto with. Anybody can get ko'd from a temple shot....regardless of wether they are granite chinned or not.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Even though i would like to see Khan vs Pacquiao, Khan is nowhere near ready for someone like Pacquiao and he maybe never ready. Because Khan has a suspect chin and no one with a suspect chin beats Pacquiao especially with his devastating punching power.
People keep saying this but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest he has.
Willie Limond hurt him with a shot to the temple. Very similar to the one Corley hurt Cotto with. Anybody can get ko'd from a temple shot....regardless of wether they are granite chinned or not.
Diaz - paper champion with suspect chin and little power
Khan - too inexperienced
Valero - way too slow
talk about a very weak/pathetic follow up trio to JMM
Would rather see a JMM at the same weight class @ 135 way too advantageous for Pac.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
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Originally Posted by
caleoh12
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Pacstraightleft
Yep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
A couple of things...
1) The Khan fight taking place in Dubai and the Valero fight taking place in Mexico?! I don't think that will happen. Pacquiao is too big to fight somewhere other than Vegas. MAYBE if he fought Valero somewhere other than Vegas could happen cause of him having trouble getting cleared for fights in the US.
2) If he is actually going to fight Diaz then Khan then Valero, it's probably because of the criticism Pacquiao gets for only fighting people "past their primes" (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). But to be honest with you, if he does get past these guys, then people will just say "these guys weren't ready for Pacquiao" or "they were too young and not tested yet."
3) If he does go for the path were he encounters Campbell and Casamayor and beats them, then continues the whole "Campbell and Casamayor have seen better days" comments.
Well said caleoh. Reps on your way bro.:cool:
How about Guzman, Soto, Valero ..... that other list is a joke !!
Fro pver aged to inadequate no if and buts hggers...... This schedule will only bring Pac ridicule and you are even aware of it and JMM has every right to be crying for a rematch as any competitive fighter or for that much human being that loses his title in that close of a fight. What ever happened to having to take the Champs belt away? Easy answer ....... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Many rounds could have gone either way but like any competive sport generally the tie goes to the runner / champion. Scratching my head 3 KD and close rounds earns JMM a tie 1 knockdown and more ring command ears him a loss ? Funny business, but too close to use the term robbery . Just a sad way to jade a champion in favor of a public figures reputation and earing potential for the sport.
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Even though i would like to see Khan vs Pacquiao, Khan is nowhere near ready for someone like Pacquiao and he maybe never ready. Because Khan has a suspect chin and no one with a suspect chin beats Pacquiao especially with his devastating punching power.
People keep saying this but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest he has.
Willie Limond hurt him with a shot to the temple. Very similar to the one Corley hurt Cotto with. Anybody can get ko'd from a temple shot....regardless of wether they are granite chinned or not.
Corley may not have high KO percentage but he can turn his opponents legs to jelly with one shot, you cannot compare Limond to Corley. Limond can't even stop fighters with losing records. I have seen Khan hurt few times by light punchers, after the Limond disaster why do you think Warren has only put him in with light punchers ??
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by
Bookkeeper
Pac just need's to go on and whup David Diaz ass
Yep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
I kinda agree with you but that also applies to how Pac will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. No one wants to se that proposed list ( apology Pac fans do and in no way do I mean this as a bad thing).
D.Diaz, Campbell, Casa c'mon if you are a true boxing fan you do not wanna see this !!! what is Pac going to accomplish? You know the age thing is going to surface again vs Campbell & Casa and the lack of power and weak chin thing vs Diaz.
Pac the Dinosaur slayer !!!! Is this how you want your champion to be best remembered ? I say up the ante and keep the Destroyer tab !!!
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Re: PACQUIAO future fights; Diaz, Khan, Valero, etc.
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
JLAQ
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Originally Posted by
Master
That is a tough schedule for Pac, would he then be recognised as the best p4p fighter!
He IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.
Seems I already owe you rep. In the post mate
I think Pac is the P4P but his proposed schedule will oust him from the postion even with wins