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Alright people can talk all they want and say that they thought Glen won.
Now heres their chance to step up and post their scorecards.
Here's my card. (It should be noted that this is my scorecard when I saw the fight live)
Glen - Rds= 3,4,5,11,10 = 113
BCD - Rds= 1,2,6,7,8,9,12 = 115
It should be noted that round 4 and round 8 (I think were REALLY close for me and could have gone either way. Round 4 I gave it to Glen and round 8 I gave it to BCD.
Was eating dinner at that time so didn't keep a strict tally but at the time I had it 1 round for Dawson but since I didn't take notes and once I looked back at the RBR thread, I seem to have possibly miscounted. Will know for sure upon rewatching but it was certainly a fight that could have gone either way imo.
On top of everything though, it was a great fight. Fight of the night.
I picked Glen to win and I thought he won... But it's a close fight and no complain here about the decision... But surely Glen's performance was the best of the night...
Well, I think the Road Warrior rolled back the years a little, and showed BCD some of what he'll really need to be expecting now that he's a 'World' title holder, and there won't always be a home crowd there for him neither. I had it a draw and BCD hanging on to his strap, in what would probably have been a fair result.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Anyhow, hopefully this experience doesn't scare the bejeezus out of Dawson and send him back to fighting fringe contenders.
Well I can easily expect Dawson to not be scared of Tarver, as Glen Johnson looked a whole hell of a lot better then Tarver did and I think Dawson really believes he won the fight. So I could count on a Tarver matchup in front of both fighter's homecrowd and I think Dawson takes that.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunWell, I think the Road Warrior rolled back the years a little, and showed BCD some of what he'll really need to be expecting now that he's a 'World' title holder, and there won't always be a home crowd there for him neither. I had it a draw and BCD hanging on to his strap, in what would probably have been a fair result.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Anyhow, hopefully this experience doesn't scare the bejeezus out of Dawson and send him back to fighting fringe contenders.
Hopefully Glenn could get a rematch after.
No wonder Johnson gets the reputation he has, as he gives it 100% every time, and has been in some great fights. If he gets a rematch in every fight he's deserved one, the guy will be fighting till he's 110. But I'd watch him against Dawson again with no trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by amatWell I can easily expect Dawson to not be scared of Tarver, as Glen Johnson looked a whole hell of a lot better then Tarver did and I think Dawson really believes he won the fight. So I could count on a Tarver matchup in front of both fighter's homecrowd and I think Dawson takes that.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunWell, I think the Road Warrior rolled back the years a little, and showed BCD some of what he'll really need to be expecting now that he's a 'World' title holder, and there won't always be a home crowd there for him neither. I had it a draw and BCD hanging on to his strap, in what would probably have been a fair result.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Anyhow, hopefully this experience doesn't scare the bejeezus out of Dawson and send him back to fighting fringe contenders.
Hopefully Glenn could get a rematch after.
Exactly, it's why I watched that card over the other one, much more competitive matchups and a GREAT fight that was. Hopefully wasn't a sendoff for Johnson.
The judges official scorecard.....
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8421/djscorecf5.gif
I had Dawson winning by 2 rounds as well
I scored it for Bad Chad by one round. Close fight though, and I would have been fine with a decision either way.
Figures...
All this talk about a robbery and Glen this and that but not one single post with a scorecard showing how Glen won.
What do you know, after rewatching the fight for the first time and keeping score for the first time, I had Johnson winning. Here is my scorecard.
Dawson: 1,6,7,8,9 = 113
Johnson: 2,3,4,5,10,11,12 = 115
The primary difference between my score card and the scorecard of others was that I gave Johnson more of those early rounds then most as I felt he was blocking most everything early and I thought that he stole a few of those rounds late. Rounds 2,4,6 were the closest rounds in my opinion. Also didn't find the 12th to be very close which a lot of others did, I watched it 3 times now and each time thought Johnson won convincingly, again he was blocking better in the late rounds and outworked Dawson because Dawson wasn't firing the jab much in that round even on the outside.
However, above all I think this was a great night of boxing one of my favorite fights of the year this one was. Loved it, very good action from two of the better and more likeable fighters in all of boxing. Hopefully we can see a rematch one day, Glen can be a factor for 5 more years. He looks better now then he has at any point in his career and that is amazing for a fighter with his style.
Dawson on the other hand has all the tools, really has improved into a great fighter, knew he would. He'll be champion for a long time to come imo, very good boxer, I think he rolls all over Tarver and no chance Hopkins or Calzaghe take their chances with him.
Thanks amat,Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
You know the score and I can respect your input.
Good points all around.
I had it a draw
I finally watched it...and I got to agree with you...scored it the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Am I the only one that noticed the first scorecard...lol the dude crossed out names and swithced em up..lol did he have Glen winning 116-112? Who the fuck let that dumbass judge. Or is thata third party, because I notice the handwriting is the same.
Well that's just the master, the actual score slips are collected between each round I believe. Unless I have it off but yeah I noticed that, made it a bitch comparing mine with all 3 of theres, not only can't I read but was getting dyslexic with the numbers out of order of like that.
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Originally Posted by Galaxy
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Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAssI finally watched it...and I got to agree with you...scored it the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
My Scorecard.
1 Dawson 10-9
2 Dawson 10-9
3 Johnson 10-9
4 Johnson 10-9
5 Johnson 10-9
6 Dawson 10-9
7 Dawson 10-9
8 Dawson 10-9
9 Dawson 10-9
10 Johnson 10-9
11 Johnson 10-9
12 Johnson 10-9
114-114
No way was this a robbery Dawson saved himself by winning 4 rounds on the trot from 6 to 9 he won those rounds clearly IMO, Johnson did land the harder shots though no question and he for certain won the last 3 rounds earning himself a draw. One of the best Lightheavyweight fights i've seen for years.
Exact same scorecard as me except the 2nd round i will re watch that round but i thought that was clearly Dawson's.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat