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Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
Heard something about this but I can't any real confirmation.
It is listed as being set on boxrec, for whatever that's worth as boxrec has obviously jumped the gun before. Listed as being late next month
Would be a big jump in weight for Parra. I know he had problems making 112 but you would think the most he would jump would be to maybe 118. Instead he goes to 122 and fights a gigantic 122 pounder?
This might not come off though, a bit too early to tell.
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
Parra is an outstanding fighter when he's 100% healthy. I'll pick him to beat Caballero if this fight comes out
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I like Parra too but 122, against that freak? I don't know man. He's a better fighter P4P no doubt but I'd like to see how he looks at 122 first.
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
I dunno what's in the mind of Team Parra, Caballero is the most avoided 122 champ... Unorthodox, awkward, tall, rangy freak ...
Even Vazquez, Rafa, Ponce DeLeon will have second thoughts of taking a fight with Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero... ;)
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
I also think Parra is an outstanding fighter when he's in top shape but a jump that high would not be wise IMO. Like Oumafan said 118 would be a more suitable weight. I think Caballero would win.
Anyone heard anything about the Mundine/ Kessler fight? I saw on ESPN's schedule they had it down for May 8th I think but haven't heard anything confirmed
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
Parra was an outstanding fighter but he is unproven at this weight and Caballero is huge for 122 and a very good fighter in his own right. I heavily favor Caballero given his size, style, and Parras recent inconsistency and move up in weight.
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
Parra has already fought one time 122. It was a bum he beat. But it allowed him to get a feel for the weight. If he's 100% healthy. Which I believe he is. He'll beat Caballero
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
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Parra has already fought one time 122. It was a bum he beat. But it allowed him to get a feel for the weight. If he's 100% healthy. Which I believe he is. He'll beat Caballero
I usually agree with a lot of your picks VD but in this case i'd have to take Caballero. His height and general size advantage will be too much for Parra. I think jumping from 112 to 122 might be too much for Parra to overcome.
Think he'd have a better chance against PDL actually.
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Parra has already fought one time 122. It was a bum he beat. But it allowed him to get a feel for the weight. If he's 100% healthy. Which I believe he is. He'll beat Caballero
I usually agree with a lot of your picks VD but in this case i'd have to take Caballero. His height and general size advantage will be too much for Parra. I think jumping from 112 to 122 might be too much for Parra to overcome.
Think he'd have a better chance against PDL actually.
I agree, Parra has better chance against PDL or Steve Molitor.
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VD are you sure Parra's fight was at 122? That's BIG jump. Thanks for the news Ouma,I think Celestino wins without a doubt.Too big,too much for Parra.Parra will try to ox and Celestino will be able to each him wherever he is...Or it could be like Quintana v Williams?Hmmm....Intereting fight and strange but brave pick from Parra!
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El Gamo
VD are you sure Parra's fight was at 122? That's BIG jump. Thanks for the news Ouma,I think Celestino wins without a doubt.Too big,too much for Parra.Parra will try to ox and Celestino will be able to each him wherever he is...Or it could be like Quintana v Williams?Hmmm....Intereting fight and strange but brave pick from Parra!
Yes Parra has fought one time at 122 before
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
Caballeros gonna man handle Parra. I think with all the downs Parras career has had he wont be back to what he once used to be.
With that being said Caballeros last 2 performances haven't been all that. Especially the Lacierva fight.
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i'M NOT REALLY A FAN OF CAballaro. He beat Ponce because of the height differential. And other than that fight and the Somsak fight,I haven't been impressed by any of his other outings. He'll be tough to beat because of his size and power.
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i'M NOT REALLY A FAN OF CAballaro. He beat Ponce because of the height differential. And other than that fight and the Somsak fight,I haven't been impressed by any of his other outings. He'll be tough to beat because of his size and power.
Size and power... that's right. That's why he's called Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero...
I'll favor Caballero over any 122 lbs. boxers including Vazquez, Rafa, PDL, etc.
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El Gamo
i'M NOT REALLY A FAN OF CAballaro. He beat Ponce because of the height differential. And other than that fight and the Somsak fight,I haven't been impressed by any of his other outings. He'll be tough to beat because of his size and power.
Size and power... that's right. That's why he's called Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero...
I'll favor Caballero over any 122 lbs. boxers including Vazquez, Rafa, PDL, etc.
LMAO@Towering inferno! Wasn't he KTFO by Kordoba? Anyway,prime Vazquez and Marquez cut him down to his size within 6 round with their power and KTFO him out sometime in the next 6.After their wars against each other,whether that is the case remains to be seen.
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El Gamo
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SaddoBoxer
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El Gamo
i'M NOT REALLY A FAN OF CAballaro. He beat Ponce because of the height differential. And other than that fight and the Somsak fight,I haven't been impressed by any of his other outings. He'll be tough to beat because of his size and power.
Size and power... that's right. That's why he's called Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero...
I'll favor Caballero over any 122 lbs. boxers including Vazquez, Rafa, PDL, etc.
LMAO@Towering inferno! Wasn't he KTFO by Kordoba? Anyway,prime Vazquez and Marquez cut him down to his size within 6 round with their power and KTFO him out sometime in the next 6.After their wars against each other,whether that is the case remains to be seen.
Cordaba knocked him down but he went the distance, it was Jose Rojas that stopped him in 3. I thought his wins over Valbuena & Ortega were very solid victories. But I agree prime Vasquez & Marquez maybe even at this stage would take him out!
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El Gamo
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SaddoBoxer
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El Gamo
i'M NOT REALLY A FAN OF CAballaro. He beat Ponce because of the height differential. And other than that fight and the Somsak fight,I haven't been impressed by any of his other outings. He'll be tough to beat because of his size and power.
Size and power... that's right. That's why he's called Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero...
I'll favor Caballero over any 122 lbs. boxers including Vazquez, Rafa, PDL, etc.
LMAO@Towering inferno! Wasn't he KTFO by Kordoba? Anyway,prime Vazquez and Marquez cut him down to his size within 6 round with their power and KTFO him out sometime in the next 6.After their wars against each other,whether that is the case remains to be seen.
I guess Vazquez and Rafa were spent goods as a result of their 3 grueling fights... They're ripe for the picking by "Towering Inferno"...
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El Gamo
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SaddoBoxer
Size and power... that's right. That's why he's called Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero...
I'll favor Caballero over any 122 lbs. boxers including Vazquez, Rafa, PDL, etc.
LMAO@Towering inferno! Wasn't he KTFO by Kordoba? Anyway,prime Vazquez and Marquez cut him down to his size within 6 round with their power and KTFO him out sometime in the next 6.After their wars against each other,whether that is the case remains to be seen.
I guess Vazquez and Rafa were spent goods as a result of their 3 grueling fights... They're ripe for the picking by "Towering Inferno"...
I don't think so, Caballero's chin is still a question mark IMO. Against the power of both Vasquez & Marquez it'll be tested.
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El Gamo
LMAO@Towering inferno! Wasn't he KTFO by Kordoba? Anyway,prime Vazquez and Marquez cut him down to his size within 6 round with their power and KTFO him out sometime in the next 6.After their wars against each other,whether that is the case remains to be seen.
I guess Vazquez and Rafa were spent goods as a result of their 3 grueling fights... They're ripe for the picking by "Towering Inferno"...
I don't think so, Caballero's chin is still a question mark IMO. Against the power of both Vasquez & Marquez it'll be tested.
And I think it'll let him down against Marquez and Vazquez
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I guess Vazquez and Rafa were spent goods as a result of their 3 grueling fights... They're ripe for the picking by "Towering Inferno"...
I don't think so, Caballero's chin is still a question mark IMO. Against the power of both Vasquez & Marquez it'll be tested.
And I think it'll let him down against Marquez and Vazquez
And I hope you're right because I'd HATE to see them lose to Celesetino!:mad:
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OumaFan
Heard something about this but I can't any real confirmation.
It is listed as being set on boxrec, for whatever that's worth as boxrec has obviously jumped the gun before. Listed as being late next month
Would be a big jump in weight for Parra. I know he had problems making 112 but you would think the most he would jump would be to maybe 118. Instead he goes to 122 and fights a gigantic 122 pounder?
This might not come off though, a bit too early to tell.
Caballero is severely underrated. Cab by decision.
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Been looking for the result of this fight...
Can't find it... :( It's 2 in the morning over there... :-\
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
I've read Caballero won via 12 round stoppage in a clinch filled fight but I can't verify that. Anyone else heard anything?
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Good stuff Gamo...
I stood up until 12 trying to find the result but no luck...
Found this on fightnews...
Caballero still WBA champ!
Pelenchin stops Parra in 12th round at
WBA KO to Drugs Festival in Venezuela
WBC super bantamweight champion Celestino "Pelenchin" Caballero (29-2-1, 19 KOs) retained his title with a twelfth round TKO over former WBA flyweight champon Lorenzo Parra (28-2, 18 KOs) on Saturday night at the Domo de Ciudad OlÃ*mpica in San Juan de los Morros, Venezuela headlining the 18th edition of the "WBA - KO to Drugs Festival." Parra had some good moments early, but the nearly six-foot Caballero eventually wore down the smaller fighter and at the beginning of the twelfth round, referee Luis Pabon stopped the fight on the advice of the ring doctor due to a possible fractured jaw suffered by Parra. It was Caballero's fourth successful defense.
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Good stuff Gamo...
I stood up until 12 trying to find the result but no luck...
Found this on fightnews...
Caballero still WBA champ!
Pelenchin stops Parra in 12th round at
WBA KO to Drugs Festival in Venezuela
WBC super bantamweight champion Celestino "Pelenchin" Caballero (29-2-1, 19 KOs) retained his title with a twelfth round TKO over former WBA flyweight champon Lorenzo Parra (28-2, 18 KOs) on Saturday night at the Domo de Ciudad Ol�*mpica in San Juan de los Morros, Venezuela headlining the 18th edition of the "WBA - KO to Drugs Festival." Parra had some good moments early, but the nearly six-foot Caballero eventually wore down the smaller fighter and at the beginning of the twelfth round, referee Luis Pabon stopped the fight on the advice of the ring doctor due to a possible fractured jaw suffered by Parra. It was Caballero's fourth successful defense.
Fractured jaw... hmmnnn could be an impressive win by "The Towering Inferno"...
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I wanna see that round 12.
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Caballero looks unmarked...
See photo here --> Caballero vs. Parra Photos
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Damn. 1 foot height advantage by Caballero?
Lol!
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Re: Celestino Caballero vs. Lorenzo Parra?
This one seemed a bit inevitable, Parra was a great fighter but he was too small for Caballero. Really dissapointed by Parra's decision making, I know he was having a hell of a time making 112 but to go all the way up to 122, obviously I wasn't in his training camp but that sounds like a lazy problem really, at least he could have made 118. I mean he's what like 5'4, 5'3?
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OumaFan
This one seemed a bit inevitable, Parra was a great fighter but he was too small for Caballero. Really dissapointed by Parra's decision making, I know he was having a hell of a time making 112 but to go all the way up to 122, obviously I wasn't in his training camp but that sounds like a lazy problem really, at least he could have made 118. I mean he's what like 5'4, 5'3?
PAC made that 112 to 122 jump in 1999 after he lost his 112 title on the scale... PAC then KO'ed his first 122 lbs. opponent, just an average fighter and definitely not a Caballero...
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