I hate Hopkins

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04-20-2008, 03:48 AM
Cortez The Killer

I hate Hopkins

What an ignorant man. He is living proof that age doesn't always lead to wisdom.

He has got skills in the ring but aside from that comes across as a greedy, selfish, delusional ass fuck how doesn't have to balls to do anything but sit back and counter, lead with his head, tie up, and throw dirty punches.

He has no class in or out of the ring. I was pissed at him for all the crap he talked about Taylor and never acknowledging that Taylor beat him. He did the same thing to Calzaghe tonight. He is dirty as hell and even showed a new trick tonight, his acting skills. What a cunt.
04-20-2008, 03:53 AM
armin

Re: I hate Hopkins

Agree with ya cortez, this fight to me wasn't even that close, like taylor fight is a fight where i saw b hop win the first one maybe cause he was the champ, this one in my mind I just can't see b hop taking it. Plus I would have loved to see a replay of the 2nd "lowblow" the one where cal had hop in the corner and seemed to land a dam nice bodyshot and hop was trying to act the hurt due to a lowblow.
04-20-2008, 04:13 AM
Cortez The Killer

Re: I hate Hopkins

Unless Hopkin's balls are located on his waist even the first "lowblow" was crap. Calzaghe's head was being pushed down, he had bad position on the punch, it was a weak punch, it hit hopkins glove, and then made accidental contact with hopkins guard with about the force of an insect behind it.

Whether Hopkins is stomping on the Puerto Rican flag (Trinidad), spewing ignorant trash out of his mouth, not tipping at restaurants, or showing no acknowledgment or respect to his opponents before, during, or after his fights...im pretty sure there is nothing inside his head other than muscle memory and greed.
04-20-2008, 04:16 AM
CutMeMick

Re: I hate Hopkins

I don't hate him.

I dislike him as a fighter, his style sucks now.
Just like Winky's.
04-20-2008, 04:19 AM
GodofBoxing

Re: I hate Hopkins

Boxers that take 5 min for a non-existent low blow piss me off quite a bit...add to that the comments after the fight and the annoying punch and lead with head boxing style...the guy isn't very likable
04-20-2008, 05:05 AM
amat

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I don't hate him.

I dislike him as a fighter, his style sucks now.
Just like Winky's.

No comparision to Winky's style, Winky punches in numbers and doesn't throw one shot at a time. Hopkins shouldn't have even beat Winky, dirty fighter.

Hopkins and Calzaghe are my two least favorite champs in boxing. Calzaghe is cocky as hell and looks terrible with his slappy punches. He wins but he doesn't look good while winning. He's an annoying fighter.

Hopkins though is dirty and does not care about ANYTHING other then winning. I don't have a problem with that and I've lightened up on Nard the further away the Winky fight gets but he is a dirty dirty dirty fighter, overly dirty.
04-20-2008, 05:09 AM
:::PSL:::

Re: I hate Hopkins

I don't hate Hopkins.

What do you expect from a 43 year old guy?

I actually expected him to fight that way. I knew he would apply some rough and dishonest tactics.
04-20-2008, 05:17 AM
El Kabong

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I don't hate him.

I dislike him as a fighter, his style sucks now.
Just like Winky's.

NOW?!?!?!?! His style hasn't changed! He has always headbutted and he has always low blowed and he has always fought in a quasi-dirty style and done better than most fighters out there.

You have to respect what he does in the ring
04-20-2008, 05:40 AM
match

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I don't hate him.

I dislike him as a fighter, his style sucks now.
Just like Winky's.

NOW?!?!?!?! His style hasn't changed! He has always headbutted and he has always low blowed and he has always fought in a quasi-dirty style and done better than most fighters out there.

You have to respect what he does in the ring

Agree with both of ya'll!
04-20-2008, 06:45 AM
rene69

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer

What an ignorant man. He is living proof that age doesn't always lead to wisdom.

He has got skills in the ring but aside from that comes across as a greedy, selfish, delusional ass fuck how doesn't have to balls to do anything but sit back and counter, lead with his head, tie up, and throw dirty punches.

He has no class in or out of the ring. I was pissed at him for all the crap he talked about Taylor and never acknowledging that Taylor beat him. He did the same thing to Calzaghe tonight. He is dirty as hell and even showed a new trick tonight, his acting skills. What a cunt.

Agreed!!
04-20-2008, 09:44 PM
Master

Re: I hate Hopkins

He may not be my favourite boxer to watch but Hopkins is a legend he gave Galzaghe hell and made him look clumsy, how many people have done that to him, not a peak Kessler or dangerous Lacy but an experienced 43 year old fighter way past his best. Name another fighter that could do that?
04-20-2008, 10:04 PM
CFH

Re: I hate Hopkins

He comes across as a complete asshole and he is never gracious in defeat, but boxing isn't a personality contest and he is/was a great fighter.
04-20-2008, 10:10 PM
Master

Re: I hate Hopkins

Many great fighters are bad loosers, JCC superstar was a prime example, still love him though.
04-20-2008, 10:13 PM
Ring Rat

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer

What an ignorant man. He is living proof that age doesn't always lead to wisdom.

He has got skills in the ring but aside from that comes across as a greedy, selfish, delusional ass fuck how doesn't have to balls to do anything but sit back and counter, lead with his head, tie up, and throw dirty punches.

He has no class in or out of the ring. I was pissed at him for all the crap he talked about Taylor and never acknowledging that Taylor beat him. He did the same thing to Calzaghe tonight. He is dirty as hell and even showed a new trick tonight, his acting skills. What a cunt.

Pretty good summation you ask me .
04-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Taeth

Re: I hate Hopkins

This was nothing like Jermain Taylor fights, but I both agree and disagree. First of all this fight could have been won by either man, but Hopkins made Calzaghe look more amateurish than vice virsa... From what i saw it was more Hopkins not being young enough to throw back that made this fight close, and I think he knew that Calzaghe wasn't in his league, but his body couldn't keep up with the pace. Hopkins clearly showed imo that expect for the fact he was 43 that he was the superior fighter, and even at 43 that he was at least even to Calzaghe in effectiveness. However he should respect Calzaghe who is a really good maybe even great fighter, and stop crying. Same with Glen Johnson, he wasn't robbed against Dawson, its just the judges were out to lunch, and I think 116-111 against Hopkins was ridiculous.
04-21-2008, 12:55 AM
Cortez The Killer

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by Taeth

This was nothing like Jermain Taylor fights, but I both agree and disagree. First of all this fight could have been won by either man, but Hopkins made Calzaghe look more amateurish than vice virsa... From what i saw it was more Hopkins not being young enough to throw back that made this fight close, and I think he knew that Calzaghe wasn't in his league, but his body couldn't keep up with the pace. Hopkins clearly showed imo that expect for the fact he was 43 that he was the superior fighter, and even at 43 that he was at least even to Calzaghe in effectiveness. However he should respect Calzaghe who is a really good maybe even great fighter, and stop crying. Same with Glen Johnson, he wasn't robbed against Dawson, its just the judges were out to lunch, and I think 116-111 against Hopkins was ridiculous.

I was only using the Taylor fights as a comparison of how ungrateful Hopkins is and what a sore loser he is.

I havent watched it for a while, but remember I had Hopkins winning the first Taylor fight, even though he did not start fighting until after the 6th round or so :confused:

THe Hopkins-Taylor fights were much closer than the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight. I truly feel that Calzaghe won the fight (did not keep a card though) and it is not because I can't stand hopkins personality. I also feel that Taylor rightfully won the second fight and that although the first was very hard to score, hopkins could have inched it out because he was champ. I still remember what Merchant said during the fight "watching Hopkins fight is like watching ice melt".

I feel that Calzaghe could have deserved a UD against Hopkins. There was point around round 8 or 9 where I saw Hopkins begin to crack a little. Not break down of course, but I saw that he was a bit uncomfortable in the ring which is a rarity for him. This pleased me very much, because I cannot stand him.

It seems Hopkins has had trouble in recent years with opponents who are evenly matched physically and have a decent work rate. Truth is, there are a lot of guys 160 and up who with be able to win against Hopkins from here on out. It wont be a pretty win, I still think Hopkins will make anyone he fights look bad at times, even for a couple more years. But if his opponents watch the counter right AND the head coming in with it and keep up a steady output then Hopkins will tire after 6 rounds. If not, then Hopkins will coast the first 6 rounds and then start to fight.

Either way, Hopkins technique is to bore/frustrate his opponent until they lose concentration for a split second and he can land a punch, maybe a little headbutt, and then tie them up.
04-21-2008, 01:03 AM
Unknowndonor

Re: I hate Hopkins

Hate is a strong word. I wouldn't go that far. With that being said, sometimes I'd like to catch BHOP with a flying knee, and make him uglier than what he is, lol. He just needs to keep his mouth shut sometimes, but I don't let it bother me, I don't stoop to his level. Much respect for what he has done as a fighter (inside the ring), but other than that, Hopkins isn't worth me thinking about.
04-21-2008, 01:17 AM
Cortez The Killer

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Hate is a strong word. I wouldn't go that far. With that being said, sometimes I'd like to catch BHOP with a flying knee, and make him uglier than what he is, lol. He just needs to keep his mouth shut sometimes, but I don't let it bother me, I don't stoop to his level. Much respect for what he has done as a fighter (inside the ring), but other than that, Hopkins isn't worth me thinking about.

I knew someone was going to get politically correct about the word "hate" eventually :)

I am surprised it took this long ;D
04-21-2008, 02:12 AM
JLAQ

Re: I hate Hopkins

Somebody make a video on "Leave Bernard Alone!". AHAHAHAHAHA! :cool:
04-21-2008, 02:14 AM
Hulk

Re: I hate Hopkins

I love B-Hop.

Only thing I'll say is that I did not care for the way he behaved on that "low blow".
04-21-2008, 02:16 AM
JLAQ

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by Hulk

I love B-Hop.

Only thing I'll say is that I did not care for the way he behaved on that "low blow".

Well I hate cheats, liars, scoundrels, ex-cons, racists, and so on and so forth. To each his own I guess.
04-21-2008, 02:23 AM
amat

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

Well I hate cheats, liars, scoundrels

Then why do you have Frank Warren as your icon?

Hopkins went to jail real early in life and never went back, give him a break come on.
04-21-2008, 02:29 AM
JLAQ

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by amat

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

Well I hate cheats, liars, scoundrels

Then why do you have Frank Warren as your icon?

Hopkins went to jail real early in life and never went back, give him a break come on.

He hasnt changed apparently, still using the same old tactics criminals do: lying, cheating, pretending, acting, bullying, etc. "And ye shall know a man by his actions..."
04-21-2008, 02:33 AM
amat

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

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Originally Posted by amat

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

Well I hate cheats, liars, scoundrels

Then why do you have Frank Warren as your icon?

Hopkins went to jail real early in life and never went back, give him a break come on.

He hasnt changed apparently, still using the same old tactics criminals do: lying, cheating, pretending, acting, bullying, etc. "And ye shall know a man by his actions..."

Because armed robbery is really comparable to anything Hopkins did in the ring.

And Hopkins has ALWAYS been dirty, one of the dirtiest fighters of the last 20 years.
04-21-2008, 02:37 AM
JLAQ

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by amat

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

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Originally Posted by amat

Then why do you have Frank Warren as your icon?

Hopkins went to jail real early in life and never went back, give him a break come on.

He hasnt changed apparently, still using the same old tactics criminals do: lying, cheating, pretending, acting, bullying, etc. "And ye shall know a man by his actions..."

Because armed robbery is really comparable to anything Hopkins did in the ring.

And Hopkins has ALWAYS been dirty, one of the dirtiest fighters of the last 20 years.

What Nard does in the the ring is done with malice with a severe disregard for the rules. Almost the same with crime, except that the prize differs in form.
04-21-2008, 02:52 AM
USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS

Re: I hate Hopkins

B-Hop fought a dirty, ugly fight,faked low blows and put out the best he could at times and still got beat by a white boy. LOL
04-21-2008, 03:01 AM
JLAQ

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS

B-Hop fought a dirty, ugly fight,faked low blows and put out the best he could at times and still got beat by a white boy. LOL

Haha he sure did. I mean, what's worse than a loss? A loss where the loser cheated his way and even had the ref helping him. I mean, this loss should really put Nard's status at an all-time LOW. You cheat, do everything in the book yet you still lose? And to a white boy of all people. This is the worst loss I have ever seen in a long time, considering all the circumstances.
04-21-2008, 05:46 AM
p4pking

Re: I hate Hopkins

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS

B-Hop fought a dirty, ugly fight,faked low blows and put out the best he could at times and still got beat by a white boy. LOL

Haha he sure did. I mean, what's worse than a loss? A loss where the loser cheated his way and even had the ref helping him. I mean, this loss should really put Nard's status at an all-time LOW. You cheat, do everything in the book yet you still lose? And to a white boy of all people. This is the worst loss I have ever seen in a long time, considering all the circumstances.

That's the stupidest post I've read in a long time, considering all the circumstances....:D