what a robbery and you know it people

i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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It wasn't a robbery but Calzaghe did look ordinary in the fight and i told everyone Hopkins would make Calzaghe look bad. I personally scored it 114-113 for Hopkins.

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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That's funny - I thought Joe showed exactly why he's a legitimate champion. He got dumped on his ass in the 1st and came back to shake Hopkins out of his game plan. I thought both guys showed why they're shoe-ins for the HOF. That was a thinking man's fight, on both sides.

No robbery - just a close, tactical fight.

Robbery?? :rolleyes:

Some of you people need to stop the drinking because it wasnt even all that close. The first 4 rounds had me panicking but afterwards Joe took control, and though sloppy at times, outworked BHop consistently. He was coming on excellently down the stretch and Hopkins was offering little.

Even needed a phantom low blow to give him time. Calzaghe was becoming way too much for him to handle at 43.

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Robbery?? :rolleyes:

Some of you people need to stop the drinking because it wasnt even all that close. The first 4 rounds had me panicking but afterwards Joe took control, and though sloppy at times, outworked BHop consistently. He was coming on excellently down the stretch and Hopkins was offering little.

Even needed a phantom low blow to give him time. Calzaghe was becoming way too much for him to handle at 43.

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Oh yeah!

Joe won by around 3-4 rounds....it's a shame that people think Hopkins won because he was always on the defensive waiting for the counter which he wasn't effective at landing.


Hopkins should keep fighting and maybe should fight Roy Jones Jr., Chad Dawson, or Glen Johnson



Calzaghe should fight Roy Jones Jr., Kelly Pavlik, or even Carl Froch


Good fights can be had by both ;D

Calzaghe lost at best a Draw

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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Hopkins faught like a biatch. He should brought the fight to Calzaghe but he decided to run all night. You should be biatching at that old phuker for boring us and faking those low blows? Please. He sells great wolf tickets that old man does.
BTW, I to BAD REP you. Nikku!

Hopkins fought the only way he could fight and honestly they both fought better than I thought they would....I swore there would have been a KO off a sharp counter punch.


Ring Generalship - Calzaghe
Clean Effective Punching - draw
Defense - draw

That's the way I saw it and with Calzaghe throwing and landing more punchesa I find it hard not to give the win to him

I scored the fight 116-113 for Joe.........Hopkins was pratting around most of the night and that ref Cortez is the worse referee I have seen for a long time.....why on earth does this ref get all these big fights becuase he obviously is a house referee who looks after the house fughter. Fortunatley tonight Joe not only beat Hopkins fair and square he also beat the referee....well done Joe


Job Biscuit (Good fight but bad referee)!!!


eh eh!!

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I scored the fight 116-113 for Joe.........Hopkins was pratting around most of the night and that ref Cortez is the worse referee I have seen for a long time.....why on earth does this ref get all these big fights becuase he obviously is a house referee who looks after the house fughter. Fortunatley tonight Joe not only beat Hopkins fair and square he also beat the referee....well done Joe


Job Biscuit (Good fight but bad referee)!!!


eh eh!!

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Have some Rep dude, Joe is a prick. I hate that bald headed turkey.
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Cortez is a good ref don't blame him for the style of fighting that went on.


Hopkins tried his hardest and tried all he could but Joe was younger and faster and just too much for Bernard.


Every Hopkins fight is difficult to score

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Hopkins fought the only way he could fight and honestly they both fought better than I thought they would....I swore there would have been a KO off a sharp counter punch.


Ring Generalship - Calzaghe
Clean Effective Punching - draw
Defense - draw

That's the way I saw it and with Calzaghe throwing and landing more punchesa I find it hard not to give the win to him

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Lyle are you kidding me cleaner effective punching a draw ?? no way on earth Hopkins for certain landed the more cleaner effective punches.

I have seen Cortez a number of times lately and I do believe he needs to have a good holiday cause he aint fooling me with all his "Firm but fair" bollox......he is sooo biased and it is becoming a little tiresome....I wouldn't b surprised if we don't see that little man for a while


Job Biscuit (I think he needs to go back to ref School)!!!!


eh eh!!

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Lyle are you kidding me cleaner effective punching a draw ?? no way on earth Hopkins for certain landed the more cleaner effective punches.

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Nope...it's quantity vs quality and B-Hop landed good shots but Joe landed more of them....not as hard but more than enough to make up for them and I honestly think he hurt Hopkins with a few of them

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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Joe would've beaten Nard even with one-hand tied in his back. :rolleyes:

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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I sent some Bad Rep. for calling the fight a Robbery.

No way was it a robbery, the fight was close and I had Joe wining the fight by point.

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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It wasn't a robbery but Calzaghe did look ordinary in the fight and i told everyone Hopkins would make Calzaghe look bad. I personally scored it 114-113 for Hopkins.

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Hopkins was a tough cookie, but theres no way calz lost that.

He came down from a knock down in round 1 to start dominating the fight at the end.

So you score it the same as the bias african american female judge?

I gave it 115 to 113 calzaghe.

Calzaghe clearly won rounds 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12. You cant give those rounds to hopkins or even a draw.

That means even with the knock down in the first hopkins can only score a max of 5 rounds against jc.

I suggest you check the fight again mate, no offense to you but i cant see how you can not give joe those rounds???

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Lyle are you kidding me cleaner effective punching a draw ?? no way on earth Hopkins for certain landed the more cleaner effective punches.

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Nope...it's quantity vs quality and B-Hop landed good shots but Joe landed more of them....not as hard but more than enough to make up for them and I honestly think he hurt Hopkins with a few of them

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ICB please watch round 10 again!

Please watch when hopkins and calz go toe to toe and you will clearly see bhop getting rocked and all over the place and have to recover by clinching!

Watch that round again mate then youll see that lathough bhop throwed the better punches early on, claz caught him with some decent powerful shots later on and rocked him quite badly, bad enough for him to look like if he took more he woulda gone down...rounds 10 and 11, watch them again mate;)

Well, in fairness to the Hopkin'sfans, if you count all those illegal blows in Nard's favor, Nard wins.

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Well, in fairness to the Hopkin'sfans, if you count all those illegal blows in Nard's favor, Nard wins.

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Hopkins didnt need to start being dirty like that, the replay clearly showed they werent low blows.

What about the headbutts and clinching from bhop?

If they were low blows then bhop got exactly what he deserved tbh...the amouny of illegal head butts he used and constant holding evened it out.

For heavens sake, hopkins headbutted calzaghe right infront of cortez on one occassion yet nothing was done!

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Well, in fairness to the Hopkin'sfans, if you count all those illegal blows in Nard's favor, Nard wins.

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Hopkins didnt need to start being dirty like that, the replay clearly showed they werent low blows.

What about the headbutts and clinching from bhop?

If they were low blows then bhop got exactly what he deserved tbh...the amouny of illegal head butts he used and constant holding evened it out.

For heavens sake, hopkins headbutted calzaghe right infront of cortez on one occassion yet nothing was done!

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Look, Nard could headbutt Cortez's mother right in front of Joe Cortez but Joe will look the other way.

What a bunch of sore losers:p

You are acting like B-Hop

JC didn't beat America he beat an American fighter LOL and did the macarena on his ass!!!.

calzaghe did not dominate the fight, i hate when people use the word dominate. dominating a opponent is like lacy- calzaghe, hopkins- trinidad or winky- trinidad. calzaghe i felt lost the fight, he was not the same joe in there, the fight was close but bhop should of gotta the fight. i felt he won.

lets be fair here and tell it how it was. most of the rounds bar the first round were difficult to score. what was plainly obvious was how hopkins would try and stop calzaghe working on the inside. cortez who Im rapidly losing respect for seemed to turn a blind eye to hopkins using his head. at one stage hopkins did it right in front of him and cortez did nothing. hopkins fought the crafty fight we knew he would do trying to counter joe with his right hand. you could argue that the decision could have gone either way. Personally i had calzaghe winning by 2 rounds. Calzaghe was always the fighter that forced the pressure and maybe thats what swayed the fight in his favour in the eyes of 2 of the Vegas judges.

Go to disagree with you bro! Close fight, but how can it be a robbery when the largest score for hopkins i have seen by anyone worth listening to is 114-113 Hopkins. A single round? hardly decessive.

Personally i don't think you can win a fight if everything you do is purely reactionary to the other mans strategy, especially if you are getting outlanded 2:1. At no point in the fight did Hopkins try to win the fight decisively, even when joe touched down in the first he sat back when he could have possibly tried to inflict further damage.

Joe was the more aggressive, outlanded, and outworked Hopkins. Hopkins scored a few good shots, put joe down, cuddled, fouled and pretended to be injured.

Only one winner my friend. and the judges agreed.

i don't see how they gave it 115-112 and 116-111 to calzaghe, thats to wide for me and doesn't add up. i think we can all say that those who said a hopkins in his prime would clearly beat calzaghe where right. it wasn't until the last 4 rounds that joe started moving a bit once b-hop got tired, i think hopkins would even have stoped him in his prime. i honestly didn't see calzaghe do anything that shows he clearly won the fight, he looked very uncomfortable and perplexed in the first 6 rounds while missing so many shots, i friend of mine not a big fan of boxing even thought calzaghe was doing ok for a 43 year old man, when we told him it was the other guy thats 43 he ws suprised

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Robbery?? :rolleyes:

Some of you people need to stop the drinking because it wasnt even all that close. The first 4 rounds had me panicking but afterwards Joe took control, and though sloppy at times, outworked BHop consistently. He was coming on excellently down the stretch and Hopkins was offering little.

Even needed a phantom low blow to give him time. Calzaghe was becoming way too much for him to handle at 43.

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Thats Hopkins fans for ya !

How can it be close when Joe landed more than 100 punches. Hop was looking for a way out IMO . He kept going down cuz he was knackered but the ref let him get away with it

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i cannot believe it that hopkins lost it was absolutely clear to me that he won it by at at least 3 rounds he was robbed i didnt have any money on it but i feel sick for bernard he clearly won it and to yvonne u silly woman u r so dumb im sure u had joe ahead , bullshit that white boy lost so bad he has lost all credability in the boxing world for getting the decision , im so mad for a hall of famer he deserved tghe win he won no doubt about it , what a fucking sick boxing world we live in . joe is a joker as we have seen tonight he is a hatton and got shown up for what he is a fake champion, im so mad what an injustice in boxing its a disgrace .

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Joe would've beaten Nard even with one-hand tied in his back. :rolleyes:

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Yea your right even though Hopkins floored Calzaghe and fought Calzaghe to a close SD at 43 when Calzaghe had both hands :rolleyes:

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i don't see how they gave it 115-112 and 116-111 to calzaghe, thats to wide for me and doesn't add up. i think we can all say that those who said a hopkins in his prime would clearly beat calzaghe where right. it wasn't until the last 4 rounds that joe started moving a bit once b-hop got tired, i think hopkins would even have stoped him in his prime. i honestly didn't see calzaghe do anything that shows he clearly won the fight, he looked very uncomfortable and perplexed in the first 6 rounds while missing so many shots, i friend of mine not a big fan of boxing even thought calzaghe was doing ok for a 43 year old man, when we told him it was the other guy thats 43 he ws suprised

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Hopkins with his ref couldnt do beat Joe, how much more with an objective ref who prevented Hop from holding?

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MASSACRE. :rolleyes:

it wasn't a robbery but hopkins deserved the victory.