What kind of fighter does he amount to really? Definitely not someone you would call great. Remove all those illegal blows, headbutts rabbit punches, lowblows, holding, and play-acting, he is reduced to nothing but an average fighter.
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What kind of fighter does he amount to really? Definitely not someone you would call great. Remove all those illegal blows, headbutts rabbit punches, lowblows, holding, and play-acting, he is reduced to nothing but an average fighter.
Ridiculous post have you never seen his fight vs Tito or any of his other good fights for that matter ?? his fight vs Tito was one of the best boxing exhibitions i've ever seen in Middleweight boxing history, bad rep for bad mouthing a great fighter like Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
We all saw the Tito fight, and Nard was clearly the bigger man. And Tito was all so predictable, even DLH beat him IMO. Now take away all those illegal tactics Hopkins resorts to in his fights, which I think consists of almost 99% of his whole repertoire, and he is not a fighter to even talk about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBRidiculous post have you never seen his fight vs Tito or any of his other good fights for that matter ?? his fight vs Tito was one of the best boxing exhibitions i've ever seen in Middleweight boxing history, bad rep for bad mouthing a great fighter like Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
:looroll:............:beatdeadhorse:.....pretty obvious to any boxing fan that it has been much more than that tired mantra that has been Hopkins keys through career..:pQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Actually...I thought Hopkins fought the cleanest fight of his career when he beat Tito.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQWe all saw the Tito fight, and Nard was clearly the bigger man. And Tito was all so predictable, even DLH beat him IMO. Now take away all those illegal tactics Hopkins resorts to in his fights, which I think consists of almost 99% of his whole repertoire, and he is not a fighter to even talk about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBRidiculous post have you never seen his fight vs Tito or any of his other good fights for that matter ?? his fight vs Tito was one of the best boxing exhibitions i've ever seen in Middleweight boxing history, bad rep for bad mouthing a great fighter like Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
If you really think about it, without the dirty tactics, Taylor and Wright would've schooled Hopkins, in the same manner that Joe almost schooled him, if not for the frigging ref, who might as well have said, "We love you Nard, you're the best fighter in the world, it's a pleasure to referee your fight, I am not worthy".Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins:looroll:............:beatdeadhorse:.....pretty obvious to any boxing fan that it has been much more than that tired mantra that has been Hopkins keys through career..:pQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Maybe he didn't need to as he was obviously fighting a much smaller fighter. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69Actually...I thought Hopkins fought the cleanest fight of his career when he beat Tito.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQWe all saw the Tito fight, and Nard was clearly the bigger man. And Tito was all so predictable, even DLH beat him IMO. Now take away all those illegal tactics Hopkins resorts to in his fights, which I think consists of almost 99% of his whole repertoire, and he is not a fighter to even talk about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Ha! You said that his whole repertoire was 99% dirty, that's how he wins right?.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQMaybe he didn't need to as he was obviously fighting a much smaller fighter. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69Actually...I thought Hopkins fought the cleanest fight of his career when he beat Tito.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
He used that other 1% to beat Trinidad. He fought a clean fight and won...reguardless.
Ok Honestly........Thats just super sized ignorance there.The thing that could make Calzaghe better is that HE was the one in school here..Not Hopkins.This was his training ground and "Proof test",and he adjusted well.The shit ref hurt BOTH guys.If you deny that Hopkins credentials and respect was undeserved and non-existent,,regardless of your personal preference ,you are a biased fan-boy caught up in the moment....:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQIf you really think about it, without the dirty tactics, Taylor and Wright would've schooled Hopkins, in the same manner that Joe almost schooled him, if not for the frigging ref, who might as well have said, "We love you Nard, you're the best fighter in the world, it's a pleasure to referee your fight, I am not worthy".Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins:looroll:............:beatdeadhorse:.....pretty obvious to any boxing fan that it has been much more than that tired mantra that has been Hopkins keys through career..:pQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsOk Honestly........Thats just super sized ignorance there.The thing that could make Calzaghe better is that HE was the one in school here..Not Hopkins.This was his training ground and "Proof test",and he adjusted well.The shit ref hurt BOTH guys.If you deny that Hopkins credentials and respect was undeserved and non-existent,,regardless of your personal preference ,you are a biased fan-boy caught up in the moment....:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQIf you really think about it, without the dirty tactics, Taylor and Wright would've schooled Hopkins, in the same manner that Joe almost schooled him, if not for the frigging ref, who might as well have said, "We love you Nard, you're the best fighter in the world, it's a pleasure to referee your fight, I am not worthy".Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Giving Hopkins an eternity to rest did not hurt Hopkins. Letting Hopkins hold 90% of the time did not hurt Hopkins. Letting Hopkins lowblow, headbutt and rabbitpunch did not hurt Hopkins. What frigging fight did you see?
Hopkins was allowed to hold 90% of the time .Clean your spec's bro...so That was a phantom make believe Joe Cortez..The same Cortez you were just whining about...that was staying out of the clinches and NOT breaking them every 8 seconds so no inside game could unfold??Calzaghe GAVE hopkins the oppurtunity to take an advantage by putting himself in that predicament with the low blow...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsOk Honestly........Thats just super sized ignorance there.The thing that could make Calzaghe better is that HE was the one in school here..Not Hopkins.This was his training ground and "Proof test",and he adjusted well.The shit ref hurt BOTH guys.If you deny that Hopkins credentials and respect was undeserved and non-existent,,regardless of your personal preference ,you are a biased fan-boy caught up in the moment....:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Giving Hopkins an eternity to rest did not hurt Hopkins. Letting Hopkins hold 90% of the time did not hurt Hopkins. Letting Hopkins lowblow, headbutt and rabbitpunch did not hurt Hopkins. What frigging fight did you see?
So it was Cal's fault that Nard acted hurt? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsHopkins was allowed to hold 90% of the time .Clean your spec's bro...so That was a phantom make believe Joe Cortez..The same Cortez you were just bitching about...that was staying out of the clinches and NOT breaking them every 8 seconds so no inside game could unfold??Calzaghe GAVE hopkins the oppurtunity to take an advantage by putting himself in that predicament with the low blow...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Giving Hopkins an eternity to rest did not hurt Hopkins. Letting Hopkins hold 90% of the time did not hurt Hopkins. Letting Hopkins lowblow, headbutt and rabbitpunch did not hurt Hopkins. What frigging fight did you see?
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Originally Posted by JLAQSo it was Cal's fault that Nard acted hurt? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsHopkins was allowed to hold 90% of the time .Clean your spec's bro...so That was a phantom make believe Joe Cortez..The same Cortez you were just bitching about...that was staying out of the clinches and NOT breaking them every 8 seconds so no inside game could unfold??Calzaghe GAVE hopkins the oppurtunity to take an advantage by putting himself in that predicament with the low blow...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Yes, even though the low tap was nothing. He gave Hopkins that out.
Couldnt be. Looks like Nard was looking for an opportunity to rest. The punch was borderline, and DEFINITELY higher than lots of punches from Bernard. Now Nard shamelessly acting hurt cannot, is not, and should not be attributed in any way to Joe Calzaghe. That's all Nard's bitchery.
The punch was nothing, but Calzaghe gave Hopkins an advantage by straying a punch a bit low and Hopkins capitalized on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
some of you people have forgotten the tru routes of boxing, "dirty" tactics are apart of the game.
Boxing will never see any beasts in the ring now days its gone to soft.
mma 4tw
There is cause and effect in the ring.Hopkins took advantage of Calzaghes mistake....he gained the upper hand and won the rest of the round.....Its called gamesmen ship and tactics.You dont have to like it!You seem to be obsessed and absorbed with what was mostly Pre fight talking points...News flash..Calzaghe was declared the winner....Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQSo it was Cal's fault that Nard acted hurt? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsHopkins was allowed to hold 90% of the time .Clean your spec's bro...so That was a phantom make believe Joe Cortez..The same Cortez you were just bitching about...that was staying out of the clinches and NOT breaking them every 8 seconds so no inside game could unfold??Calzaghe GAVE hopkins the oppurtunity to take an advantage by putting himself in that predicament with the low blow...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Capitalize is a positive term, and therefore inappropriate to the sham acting. We don't glorify beyootchery in saddo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69The punch was nothing, but Calzaghe gave Hopkins an advantage by straying a punch a bit low and Hopkins capitalized on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Yeah but the thing is if Nard holds it's ok but if Hatton does it's not. Or if Floyd elbows it's ok but if other's do it's not. A small helping of dirty tactics are OK for as long as there is consistency in rulings.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingsEasy
Faking, lying, pretending, they're all sheet in my book. As it should be in yours. Boxing is first and foremost, a gentleman's sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsThere is cause and effect in the ring.Hopkins took advantage of Calzaghes mistake....he gained the upper hand and won the rest of the round.....Its called gamesmen ship and tactics.You dont have to like it!You seem to be obsessed and absorbed with what was mostly Pre fight talking points...News flash..Calzaghe was declared the winner....Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQSo it was Cal's fault that Nard acted hurt? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by JLAQCapitalize is a positive term, and therefore inappropriate to the sham acting. We don't glorify beyootchery in saddo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69The punch was nothing, but Calzaghe gave Hopkins an advantage by straying a punch a bit low and Hopkins capitalized on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Uh...Hopkins got what he was looking for when Cortez called the time out. So in reality, it was a positive outcome for Hopkins... but that was it.
Please, let's not get into any semantics here. Kuntery is kuntery. What Hopkins did is a beetch move. Call a spade if you see a spade. It's not different when Chico spit his mouthpiece out.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQCapitalize is a positive term, and therefore inappropriate to the sham acting. We don't glorify beyootchery in saddo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69
Uh...Hopkins got what he was looking for when Cortez called the time out. So in reality, it was a positive outcome for Hopkins... but that was it.
Boy...you are naive.Was that on the "newbies" pamphlet they past out at the job-fare you went too?The greatest of fighters...and even the not so greats maximize there oppurtunitys given AND taken within the called rules to achive victory.Get over it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQFaking, lying, pretending, they're all sheet in my book. As it should be in yours. Boxing is first and foremost, a gentleman's sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsThere is cause and effect in the ring.Hopkins took advantage of Calzaghes mistake....he gained the upper hand and won the rest of the round.....Its called gamesmen ship and tactics.You dont have to like it!You seem to be obsessed and absorbed with what was mostly Pre fight talking points...News flash..Calzaghe was declared the winner....Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
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Originally Posted by JLAQPlease, let's not get into any semantics here. Kuntery is kuntery. What Hopkins did is a beetch move. Call a spade if you see a spade. It's not different when Chico spit his mouthpiece out.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Uh...Hopkins got what he was looking for when Cortez called the time out. So in reality, it was a positive outcome for Hopkins... but that was it.
And that's what gave Chico the win if memory serves me right. He took advantage of his situation and gave it a positive outcome.
Greats maximize their opportunities, but they RARELY prtend things they are not. And they go on to beat their opponents. Thus my conclusion, Hopkins = not great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsBoy...you are naive.Was that on the "newbies" pamphlet they past out at the job-fare you went too?The greatest of fighters...and even the not so greats maximize there oppurtunitys given AND taken within the called rules to achive victory.Get over it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQFaking, lying, pretending, they're all sheet in my book. As it should be in yours. Boxing is first and foremost, a gentleman's sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Props to Chico for delivering killer blows, but boos for the mouthpiece.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQPlease, let's not get into any semantics here. Kuntery is kuntery. What Hopkins did is a beetch move. Call a spade if you see a spade. It's not different when Chico spit his mouthpiece out.Quote:
Originally Posted by rene69
And that's what gave Chico the win if memory serves me right. He took advantage of his situation and gave it a positive outcome.
Yeh,I guess Joe just beat another also ran OK type,has yet to garner a win over a great.Its pointless huh hype-man...your obviously invested in your closed mind.Good luck with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQGreats maximize their opportunities, but they RARELY prtend things they are not. And they go on to beat their opponents. Thus my conclusion, Hopkins = not great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsBoy...you are naive.Was that on the "newbies" pamphlet they past out at the job-fare you went too?The greatest of fighters...and even the not so greats maximize there oppurtunitys given AND taken within the called rules to achive victory.Get over it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Joe, beating a good fighter in Hopkins who had a PhD in dirty fighting and the ref in his pocket, makes him a great fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsYeh,I guess Joe just beat another also ran OK type,has yet to garner a win over a great.Its pointless huh hype-man...your obviously invested in your closed mind.Good luck with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQGreats maximize their opportunities, but they RARELY prtend things they are not. And they go on to beat their opponents. Thus my conclusion, Hopkins = not great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
I just repped ya...you are a biased narrow mind on this one.Foe s!!! sake Calzaghe won.Does Hopkins owe you child support or something?waste of spaceQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQJoe, beating a good fighter in Hopkins who had a PhD in dirty fighting and the ref in his pocket, makes him a great fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsYeh,I guess Joe just beat another also ran OK type,has yet to garner a win over a great.Its pointless huh hype-man...your obviously invested in your closed mind.Good luck with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
I am not so biased as to put a pic of Hopkins in my avatar. Is Hopkins your daddy or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsI just repped ya...you are a biased narrow mind on this one.Foe s!!! sake Calzaghe won.Does Hopkins owe you child support or something?waste of spaceQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQJoe, beating a good fighter in Hopkins who had a PhD in dirty fighting and the ref in his pocket, makes him a great fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
As far as I know,Were still waiting on the results:p Do your homework Einstein,I have always claimed my self A Hopkins supporter with out pause....but have not wallowed on the floor like a wet toddler (After A WIN) or held such proud disdaine for Calzaghe as you are so easy to do with Hopkins.Hey,Do what you do..Its tranparent.This has peaked...go get smacked around by some one else.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQI am not so biased as to put a pic of Hopkins in my avatar. Is Hopkins your daddy or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsI just repped ya...you are a biased narrow mind on this one.Foe s!!! sake Calzaghe won.Does Hopkins owe you child support or something?waste of spaceQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
The only thing transparent here is your Calzaghe hate. And your love for Hopkins, Mayweather, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsAs far as I know,Were still waiting on the results:p Do your homework Einstein,I have always claimed my self A Hopkins supporter with out pause....but have not wallowed on the floor like a wet toddler (After A WIN) or held such proud disdaine for Calzaghe as you are so easy to do with Hopkins.Hey,Do what you do..Its tranparent.This has peaked...go get smacked around by some one else.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQI am not so biased as to put a pic of Hopkins in my avatar. Is Hopkins your daddy or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Im done with you ignoramous....Last thing I Have EVER been accused of is being a Mayweather fan ..WTF.....gotdamn your fucking stupid.Up the dosage.:dunce:
One thing we sa topnight was that when Hopkins couldnt bully Calzaghe, Calzaghe gave him the same treatment back. Hopkins showed that he wasnt the greatest swallower of his own medicine.
Hopkins was acting to try to get Cortez to take some points away from Joe where he would have a chance to win a decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
Hey, easy on the insults. Or are you running out of arguments? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Well said. The bully just got bullied.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpcompany
Hopkins is a master at using the entire ring and circling his opponent to stay out of range of their most dangerous punch. Bernard is one of the few fighter's ever to have never been in serious danger of being stopped. That is his true gift, not dirty tactics.