The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch

Obviously people know I don't like Margarito, but all that aside the more I see this fight in my mind, the more I see Cotto just picking him apart. I think Cotto being so much sharper and quicker he will have no problems with Margarito on inside besides he will be landing first everytime, and Margarito will be thrown off balance so he can't retaliate properly. On the outside I think things get worse for Margarito because Cotto has such a good jab and cross, and he has better defense and footwork. I could see Margarito potentially hurting Cotto and maybe KO'ing him, especially if COtto can't keep up the pace late like against MOsley, but I think Cotto will make it so lopsided the ref might decide to stop it. Also it should be interesting how MArgarito's tall, thin, body handles the body attack of Peurto Rico's finest

I honestly see a mismatch without thinking too much in depth about it.. Cotto has just looked way too complete a fighter to lose to Margarito lately.

Tony will test Cottos chin more than anyone else has,im not completly sold on Cotto yet,if he gets thru Tony I will b,however I think Tony stops Cotto,I certainly dont see a missmatch!

Cotto has showed big time Improvments,stealthy fast jab,great body dedication and a new "Swagger"...Confidence.I have been yearning for this one for a looong time,Styles clash and they both deserve Much respect and a "Big one".There is no doubt that Margarito will force this and Cottos Jab will be key.I honestly can not see Cotto trading with Tony and I dont think he will try it.Cotto is the much more refind boxer by far but I think Margarito gets to him with upper cuts and Pure volume,like wise though Tony should not take his own solid head /chin for granted..I do think Cotto can come under Tonys rangy arms and do body buisness...Love this fight,ALOT

I think Cotto's footwork is better than Margo's.

With Margarito giving up his reach and height WILLINGLY I think it's just a matter of time before someone hurts him.


Cotto will punish his body and if Tony is trying to throw uppercuts he's going to be in HUGE trouble with the counter body shots. Tony is always accepting right crosses and Miguel has power in both hands.


I just think Margarito's lack of defense can't help him in this fight...you can't just take what Cotto dishes out, it's a suicidal strategy for Margarito

I've said all along, that while I expect this to be a very entertaining fight, I do not think it's an evenly matched fight. Cotto is superior to Margarito in every aspect of the game.

Margarito's style should allow Cotto to show off all his skills.

I will know all i need to know, after i see cotto get hit one or two times, how he handles that will let me know what to expect the rest of the fight.

I don't see this as a mismatch. I think both guys will land punches. I think Margarito has a better chin than Cotto. I think the fight can go either way, but I like Tony here.

I don' know... Margarito isn't that big of a puncher, when I hear Cotto's punches land, and I hear and see Margarito's punches land I just see so much more force behind Cotto's due to his technique, due his speed, and due to his strength. Margarito is strong, but I think Cotto is stronger than him. I think Cotto can definitely outfight Margarito at range, if Margarito tried to use his height and reach then Cotto would stay out of his reach and simply pick him apart with Miguel's jabs and combinations. On the inside I think Cotto's tighter, sharper punches would definitely hold the advantage, though the one threat Margarito has is his uppercuts.

I think people are forgetting how good Cotto's defense is, especially of late. I mean Judah was having a hard time landing punches which is one of the reasons why I think he didn't let his hands go more, and MOsley did time Cotto well with that right hand, but more often than not he hit Cotto's glove or the top of his head, which I don't think anyone is knocking out a guy like Cotto with a punch that partially lands.

I have to side with Cotto here. I thought Mosely would have the best chance of beating him but he came through that and I don't see Margarito being a tougher challenge. One hell of a matchup though! Can't think of a better possible fight for 2008.

Yeah so do I. I think it is entertaining but Cotto is one of the most complete fighters in boxing and Margarito is limited to say the least. Don't think this one is particulary close though I think it's a great fight. Might be a scary moment or two for Cotto but nothing leads me to think Margarito wins. This is a showcase fight for Cotto.

this is a real punishment filled fight, if tony gets things going cotto will be under pressure, if cotto starts landing those sledge hammer jabs and body/ head shots it will take everything margarito has to not get stopped........... i like both guys and in a way wish they would have fought mayweather before each other

its goner be a great fight

I don't see it as THAT much of a mismatch. From a purely logical standpoint, yes Cotto is quicker and more naturally skilled and the natural conclusion would seem to be Cotto by UD. But he's not THAT much better. Tony might not be as athletically gifted, but he IS skilled. Let's not also forget that Tony has the edge in experience. He is fully capable of capitalizing on any mistakes than Cotto makes. Bottom line, Tony has made a career at beating guys that are "better" than him.

Cotto's win over Mosley was impressive, but let's not forget that that was a 36 year old Mosley, and he barely beat him. Tony is in his prime. I'm not saying Cotto's not a great fighter, but he's certainly not invincible. Call me crazy, but I saw a lot of openings during the Gomez fight that Alfonso just couldn't take advantage of. Now maybe he was just being cavalier because he knew that Gomez couldn't hurt him, but I guarantee if he tries that with Tony, he will regret it.

Im actually gunning for a spirited fight from antonio that goes 12 brutal rounds and has him coming off of the canvas for a points defeat that will no doubt give floyd enough ammo to dodge cotto for another 12months and hopefully leads to margarito back amongst the titles before not too long.

Anyone that knocks cintron out twice in succession despite taking the shots he took has gotta be considered a dangerous opponent.


""""preys to god we dont get another gomez massacre"""""

#1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment

#2 Margarito as always WILL take more punishment than needed




Cotto's skill will destroy Margarito's bravado

I see a competitive fight between Cotto and Margarito but in reality Cotto is a class above Margo, it will be a good fight and as someone said earlier Margarito will test the Cotto defence and chin which is his weakness.
I see a tough UD for Cotto in the end with a scorecard of 117-111 or 116-112

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I will know all i need to know, after i see cotto get hit one or two times, how he handles that will let me know what to expect the rest of the fight.

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I'm kinda curious who he handles 100 plus punches and how well he can take Margirito to the chin. Cotto has the upper hand in power & speed.

if cotto boxes he wins a tough UD

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#1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment

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Maybe not, but he will take some necessary punishment. ;D

In my opinion i want add , for me , Cotto will come like he did with Quintana , Cotto is a boxer that like to put respect in to the ring first and take the control , he always like to put his opponents to adapting to him , not viceversa , he knows that Margarito is hard hitter too , but in this case probably he would test first how Margarito can assimilate his power , i don't have any doubt that this will happen , Cotto is a boxer that like to fight toe to toe like everybody knows , but he will boxing too for try to frustrate Margarito , if we remember the fight with Mosley why Cotto came to that fight with more boxing and speed ? , because that was his plan , make Mosley to adapt to him and the big point is , that will take the control , if he doesn't get the control he could have some problems , this will going to be a great and interesting fight.................;D

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Yeah so do I. I think it is entertaining but Cotto is one of the most complete fighters in boxing and Margarito is limited to say the least. Don't think this one is particularly close though I think it's a great fight. Might be a scary moment or two for Cotto but nothing leads me to think Margarito wins. This is a showcase fight for Cotto.

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I agree with all there except the last line.When I think of a showcase Fight...I think of A Gomez Vs. Cotto or even a Margarito Vs. Golden Johnson.One that it is Assumed the conclusion is pretty certain prior to the match .I see Cotto as the more refined Boxer..no doubt,But he will not have the convenience or time to be a thinking boxer and select his shots all night without some fierce exchanges at times.Tony is far from just a Caveman wearing gloves ;D although I do see him susceptible to the body from Cotto but Tonys pressure power and volume arsenal will be a constant.Has nice rangy power as well but often smothers it.Jab will be key for Cotto,Double to head/body body/head.Love this fight.......Let Mayweather stay in the WWE.:-X

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#1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment

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Maybe not, but he will take some necessary punishment. ;D

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If Cotto lands 2 punches for every 1 punch that Margarito lands he's going to KO Tony.


Miguel can box and he's not going to disrespect Tony's power but I am fairly certain Tony is going to disrespect Cotto's power and it will be a FATAL flaw in judgement....Tony has a chin but when he's taken his 10th left hook to the liver and has a broken jaw he's going to be cursing his lack of a defensive strategy

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#1 Cotto is not going to take unneccesary punishment

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Maybe not, but he will take some necessary punishment. ;D

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If Cotto lands 2 punches for every 1 punch that Margarito lands he's going to KO Tony.


Miguel can box and he's not going to disrespect Tony's power but I am fairly certain Tony is going to disrespect Cotto's power and it will be a FATAL flaw in judgement....Tony has a chin but when he's taken his 10th left hook to the liver and has a broken jaw he's going to be cursing his lack of a defensive strategy

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Theres no way that Marg. gets KO'd period. Cotto does not have that kind of power, he has power and body attacks and can box but he will not KO Marg. ask Cintron what he thinks of Marg's chin...f'ing brick wall, walked right thru every punch Cintron thru smiled and went back at it. ITs gonna be a decision for cotto or a stoppage from cuts for Margo. thats the outcome of the fight

You won't find an arguement from me about whether Margarito has a good chin or not. He's got a great chin but you cannot take punishment the way he does in his fights vs a guy like Cotto.

Guys who can take crosses without worry sometimes can't take hooks as well. Take a look at Sam Peter for one...he took Wlad's right crosses all night but as soon as he landed a hook he wobbled around like he was drunk.


Margarito hasn't been hurt to the body the way Cotto is going to hurt him either and good chin or no there's nothing wise about taking the punishment Cotto inflicts on the body

Its not about one shot with Margarito, however hard Cintron hits with one punch you've got to stay there with him and keep breaking him down all fight. Cintron doesn't have the defense, the mentality, whatever to stay with him all night continually catching him. Cotto is a completely different thing than Cintron whether Cintron hits harder with one punch or not. I don't expect a stoppage but I wouldn't be shocked whatsoever to see Tony hurt a few times whether to the head or the body, especially late.

I think it will be a matter of skill over strength, especially when you consider Cotto's no slouch in the strength and power department. I don't think he needs to box and move all night though. He should mix it up, do some of that sometimes, other times stand his ground and use his shorter shots to outland Tony.

The left uppercut of Margarito could be a problem and we'll see how well Cotto takes it to the body. Still think he'll win though.

Margaritos chin is solid but he should not take it for granted.If either guy faulters and gets hurt I think it will be from body shots.Tonys offense is mixed well and Cotto can win this boxing smart,If Cotto gets dinged and his insticts take over to stand still and trade ,Margarito can hurt him bad in the body.

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If Cotto lands 2 punches for every 1 punch that Margarito lands he's going to KO Tony.

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I see no reason to believe that, but I doubt that will happen anyway.

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Miguel can box and he's not going to disrespect Tony's power but I am fairly certain Tony is going to disrespect Cotto's power and it will be a FATAL flaw in judgement....Tony has a chin but when he's taken his 10th left hook to the liver and has a broken jaw he's going to be cursing his lack of a defensive strategy

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I don't think you give Tony enough credit. Tony is not a dumb fighter. Just because he threw caution to the wind against Cintron, doesn't mean he'll do it against Cotto. He knew he could get away with that against Kermit, he has good defense when he chooses to use it.

Margarito has NEVER used his defense...look what happened vs Paul Williams and Paul doesn't throw as sharp and as quick as Cotto does. Sure Paul is huge but in that fight Tony's defense was shown very lacking and he can't take that type of punishment from Miguel Cotto and be awake at the end of the fight.


Tony isn't a dumb fighter but his lack of defense or lack of focus on the defense will lead to his demise vs Cotto.


Tony gives up his natural height and reach advantages AND he has poor defense AND he throws longer wider punches those are the FACTS

What happened against Williams was that Tony blocked or slipped a whole sh&*load of those punches. I'm not sure how you missed that. Williams won because he outworked and outthrew Tony, period. He actually spent too much of that fight playing defense and that's why he lost. All I gotta say is that if you think Cotto is just going to have a field day and land at will like he did with Gomez, you are sadly mistaken. Also, you keep saying that Cotto is going to KO Tony, then why couldn't he KO Mosley? He never even hurt Mosley and he landed on him all night. I'm not saying Cotto isn't capable of KOing him, but I think you're slightly overestimating him.

Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.

Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.

Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.

Cintron had no defense and didn't box effectively. If Cintron could use a jab and box then we'd be talking Cotto-Cintron. Paul Williams has no defense either and used his punch output to beat Margarito.

Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it

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What happened against Williams was that Tony blocked or slipped a whole sh&*load of those punches. I'm not sure how you missed that. Williams won because he outworked and outthrew Tony, period. He actually spent too much of that fight playing defense and that's why he lost. All I gotta say is that if you think Cotto is just going to have a field day and land at will like he did with Gomez, you are sadly mistaken. Also, you keep saying that Cotto is going to KO Tony, then why couldn't he KO Mosley? He never even hurt Mosley and he landed on him all night. I'm not saying Cotto isn't capable of KOing him, but I think you're slightly overestimating him.

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couldnt agree more with this post. Marg. was blocking so many of Williams shots looked like they were training with pads. I dont disagree with that decision for the same reason Jesse James states, he got out worked, but he has made adjustments to amend that problem since...big time. I'll say it again Cotto will not KO Tony, if anything it will be the other way around. And, while Cotto will punish Tony to the body, give him an opening for the uppercut and lights out Boriqua!!

Its gonna be the fight of the year no qualms about it. There may be bigger "events" in boxing (DLH V Mayrunner) but this is the fight of the year. its gonna be awesome.

Outcome: Cotto will win a decision and look like some of the guys he's disfigured or Margo. wins on a stoppage by cuts...I'll bet on it

...if anyone is going to get cut it's going to be Tony

Im hard pressed to recall a fight in which Margarito faded late? He gets stronger down the stretch,Might be a tad cliché but a good offense can be a great defense.Aside from a fight yeeaars ago with Soberanes in which he was dropped by a liver shot (And got up to win) his body looks tight.There will be much wagering on this one.

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...if anyone is going to get cut it's going to be Tony

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i dont ever recall a cut on that guys face.

Then you didn't see his last fight.....feel free to add to this thread after further research on Margarito

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Then you didn't see his last fight.....feel free to add to this thread after further research on Margarito

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that scratch?! please. And why do people have to act like dicks. Are you the end all and be all of boxing forums???

Just because you're a Cotto fan doesnt make Cotto the winner.

#1 It was a cut and it was in a bad place too.

#2 I don't see Cotto winning because I am a fan of his, I see Cotto winning because of his skills and Margarito giving up his natural physical advantages. I see Cotto being smart and good enough to take advantage of that.

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#1 It was a cut and it was in a bad place too.

#2 I don't see Cotto winning because I am a fan of his, I see Cotto winning because of his skills and Margarito giving up his natural physical advantages. I see Cotto being smart and good enough to take advantage of that.

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I can respect and maybe even concede your opinion, to tell you the truth I do see Cotto a winner here, but I hate how eveyone seems to think he's just gonna walk all over Marg. like he was Gomez or something. I'm getting too nationalistic I think. Again your reasons are justified on the fight, but still doesnt explain why you're a dick

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Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.

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You're wrong. I already stated that Tony blocked or slipped a lot of Williams' punches. You're either in denial, or you didn't see the fight.

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Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.

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Margarito is also a beast who has never been stopped. What does fast hands and power have to do with it when you're the one getting hit? It's not like Shane was preventing Cotto from hitting him. Shane was getting hit all night, but he has a solid chin, just like Tony.

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Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.

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Frankly irrelevant. Virtually all fighters have been made to wince at some point, it doesn't mean much.

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Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it

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Fair enough. We shall see.