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As the popularity of mixed martial arts increases, so do comparisons to boxing. MMA supporters argue their sport offers much more action, while boxing backers counter that they are treated to more cliff-hangers.
Oftentimes, the arguments get blurred because many MMA fans love boxing and vice versa. But which is likely to offer the most entertainment? Which sport would fans prefer?
These questions were put front and center Saturday night when mixed martial arts and boxing offered high-profile bouts simultaneously. Boxing presented a light heavyweight battle between Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe, while MMA countered with a UFC welterweight rematch pitting champion Matt Serra against Georges St. Pierre.
Aside from the combatants, other factors had to be taken into consideration. Hopkins-Calzaghe was being offered on HBO, while Serra-St. Pierre II was available only on pay-per-view.
In Hopkins-Calzaghe, fans were being presented with two of boxing's best pound-for-pound fighters. St. Pierre is among MMA's top three or four fighters pound-for-pound, but Serra is regarded by many as a flash in the pan.
Other factors needed to be considered before making a final decision. Fans had to take into account fighting styles.
Hopkins is known for being very deliberate, while Calzaghe is a rapid puncher who loves to apply pressure. Whoever imposed his will was likely to come out victorious.
With Serra-St. Pierre, fans had a better idea of what would transpire. The two fought previously at UFC 69 on April 7, 2007. Serra shocked the MMA world that night with a TKO at 3:25 of the first round.
Boxing got the jump on MMA by kicking off its broadcast 15 minutes earlier. And there were no preliminaries. Hopkins and Calzaghe got going right away, and they did not disappoint.
Hopkins went right at Calzaghe, even dropping him in the opening round for a 10-8 scoring advantage. The action continued at a relatively quick pace for much of the second and third rounds.
But by the fourth, Hopkins, 43, began to slow down. He resorted to holding whenever the action got close. This drew jeers from the 14,213 in attendance at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.
For those at home, the fourth round of Hopkins-Calzaghe signaled the time to pluck down $44.95 and catch Serra and St. Pierre. The electricity generated by the 21,390 at the Bell Centre in Montreal would make it difficult to turn back to B-Hop and Calzaghe.
Based on their initial encounter, many fans expected to see another toe-to-toe affair. That did not happen. St. Pierre immediately went for the takedown and began pounding on Serra, whose tremendous jiu-jitsu kept him from being pounded out quickly.
The action was intense, with St. Pierre dominating. When the round was over, Serra had the scars of a beaten warrior. But there is no quit in Serra and MMA fans had to know that crowning a new UFC welterweight champion was not a foregone conclusion.
"[The nonstop action is] what makes mixed martial arts so strong," said longtime boxing and MMA trainer Don House. "In mixed martial arts, somebody's going to bleed, somebody's going to tap out or somebody's going to get knocked out.
"Only three out of 10 fights will go the distance. But in those other seven fights … somebody is getting knocked out or they're tapping out, period."
Serra-St. Pierre ended much like the majority of mixed martial arts battles. St. Pierre regained his title and revenge with a TKO at 4:45 of the second round.
While Serra and St. Pierre settled their dispute in quick fashion, Hopkins and Calzaghe needed a lot more time to conclude matters. By the fifth round, the momentum had swung toward Calzaghe.
He was hitting Hopkins repeatedly, though none of the punches did damage. And while it appeared Calzaghe was ahead, the outcome remained in doubt.
The uncertainty of who would get the decision provided much of the drama. There just wasn't a lot of action as Hopkins held Calzaghe for long stretches of time. Despite the slow pace, not all boxing fans were disappointed.
"It was a very tactical fight," said Harold Knight, the longtime assistant trainer for former boxing heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis. "There wasn't much drama; it was more for the boxing purists.
"It was good for boxing because it was a throwback-type fight. It was two good fighters taking on each other. It just goes to show that boxing is around to stay; it's not going anywhere."
UFC light heavyweight contender Rashad Evans is a huge boxing fan; he watched Hopkins-Calzaghe and Serra-St. Pierre. Evans admits enjoying each fight, but when pressed to pick the one he liked most …
"I enjoyed the Serra-St. Pierre fight more," said Evans, who has a June 7 date in London with former UFC 205-pound champion Chuck Liddell. "There was more action, plan and simple. Watching the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight, it wasn't clear that Calzaghe won."
Based solely on entertainment, which sport came out on top Saturday night? It appears the edge goes to MMA due to the nature of the combatants' fighting styles.
"The UFC will always have more action than a Hopkins fight," House said. "Hopkins did the same thing he'd done in his last three or four fights -- just enough to lose."
That sentiment is shared by Evans. But he refuses to place full blame on Hopkins. Evans points to the way MMA fights are more likely to conclude: quickly.
"In mixed martial arts it's all about the finish. Even though you can be technically good, a Bernard Hopkins-type of fighter, fans want to see the finish," Evans said. "They want to see a guy get caught in a submission or get caught with a kick, something that makes them say, 'Wow! Did you see that?' Boxing has lost a lot of that.
"The days of [Marvin] Hagler and [Thomas] Hearns, guys who went out there and burned it up right away, are over. Mixed martial arts still has that.
"Now who is to say in 20 years, when everybody is technically on a different level, it won't go down the same path as boxing? But right now, in MMA's early stages, everything is so raw. Everybody just goes for the finish every single time."
Franklin McNeil covers boxing and mixed martial arts for The Star-Ledger in Newark, N.J.
After all of this all I have to say why would pick Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Calzaghe to square boxing and MMA off against each other. You are gonna compare two knock down drag out untalented MMA punks.Vs 2 professional standup boxer's.You've got to be kidding me.Now compare these two again on July 26 or us it June 26 when Cotto vs Maragrito fight.Then we will see what real fighting is all about.
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MMA is crap....their belief that merging ALL styles of fighting makes for better fighting is the equivilant of thinking that if we got The Mona Lisa, the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, The Starry Night, and Guernica and mashed them all together then we'd have better art.
MMA is crap and their fans are crap as well
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Lyle
MMA is crap....their belief that merging ALL styles of fighting makes for better fighting is the equivilant of thinking that if we got The Mona Lisa, the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, The Starry Night, and Guernica and mashed them all together then we'd have better art.
MMA is crap and their fans are crap as well
Let's play a game called pick out the MMA fighter, shall we?
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aaaaa hahahaha.
must. breath. too funny hahahaha
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thecontender13
aaaaa hahahaha.
must. breath. too funny hahahaha
::BOWS::;D
Dude, turn around... look...no, seriously... 2 guys are banging!!!
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While boxing is always going to be the #1 sport for me above any other I will admit that I like MMA...Thing with MMA is many of the fights are technical and you have to appreciate the style EG Ju Jitsu and often slow on the ground action...almost like watching a fight between two counter punchers....
MMA has exciting moments and great KO's but they come less often and it is hard to get behind guys you don't know and be hyped up about it....
So in the end Boxing IMO is always going to reign superior but I am not going to deny I enjoy MMA on occassion
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DaxxKahn
While boxing is always going to be the #1 sport for me above any other I will admit that I like MMA...Thing with MMA is many of the fights are technical and you have to appreciate the style EG Ju Jitsu and often slow on the ground action...almost like watching a fight between two counter punchers....
MMA has exciting moments and great KO's but they come less often and it is hard to get behind guys you don't know and be hyped up about it....
So in the end Boxing IMO is always going to reign superior but I am not going to deny I enjoy MMA on occassion
I think they are two different animals and can't be compared...
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Is that a tribal tattoo??? You know, you don't see many of those these days ;D ....and on an MMA fighter, well isn't that new and different
Um, excuse me.....I'm looking for a Mr. Cool Ice......anyone seen him around??? That's Cool as in "Tattoo's are cool" and ICE as in the Foreigner song "Cold as Ice"......so if anyone sees him, let me know.
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They are two different sports, one no better than the other. You people who say "fuck MMA, its garbage, ect" should be ashamed of yourselves. You're just as ignorant as the MMA fans who claim boxing is outdated and boring.
Of course MMA and boxing are going to clash and compete for the public's dollar, but why do MMA and boxing fans have to clash too? I believe if you're a true fight fan, you can easily like and follow both of them, because both (along with K-1) have some fantastic, skilled athletes and put on great fights for the fans.
Lets try to chill out, lose the elitist attitudes and just enjoy good fights, no matter what rules they are held under.
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Lyle
Is that a tribal tattoo??? You know, you don't see many of those these days ;D ....and on an MMA fighter, well isn't that new and different
Um, excuse me.....I'm looking for a Mr. Cool Ice......anyone seen him around??? That's Cool as in "Tattoo's are cool" and ICE as in the Foreigner song "Cold as Ice"......so if anyone sees him, let me know.
lol;D
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Lyle
Is that a tribal tattoo??? You know, you don't see many of those these days ;D ....and on an MMA fighter, well isn't that new and different
Um, excuse me.....I'm looking for a Mr. Cool Ice......anyone seen him around??? That's Cool as in "Tattoo's are cool" and ICE as in the Foreigner song "Cold as Ice"......so if anyone sees him, let me know.
Those tatoo's are about the same quality of Umanga's face tatoo's in the WWE....The artist should be ashamed for charging him....
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Beanflicker
They are two different sports, one no better than the other. You people who say "fuck MMA, its garbage, ect" should be ashamed of yourselves. You're just as ignorant as the MMA fans who claim boxing is outdated and boring.
Of course MMA and boxing are going to clash and compete for the public's dollar, but why do MMA and boxing fans have to clash too? I believe if you're a true fight fan, you can easily like and follow both of them, because both (along with K-1) have some fantastic, skilled athletes and put on great fights for the fans.
Lets try to chill out, lose the elitist attitudes and just enjoy good fights, no matter what rules they are held under.
.....I am not ashamed of myself....when MMA decides to not have a fan base of douchebags then I'll try my damnedest to give it some respect...until then you're either going to have to ignore me OR debate me....I suggest ignoring it would be easier for both of us and you never know, if people don't bring MMA up then maybe I won't continue to shit all over it.
That chinese dude has the fucking Olympic rings on his forehead....seriously???? Do the chinese Olympics mean THAT much to you???? Oh wait a second, I think he's the favorite to win the rickshaw races this summer.....yes I know it's a bit un-PC but I'm willing to sacrifice other people's feelings in the name of humor, because that IS funny.
As for the white guy with the face full of tats under Mr. CooL ICE....it looks like someone played a practical joke on Michael Moore when he was passed out after 5 hours of binge eating at the Golden Corral.
The "quintisental douchebag" looks like Paulie Malinaggi and Peter Manfredo had a baby....and yes I realize that Paulie and Peter are boxers but that doesn't stop them from being douchebags.
And the musclehead under the Malinaggi-Manfredo hybrid looks like he lackered his hair...is there anymore hair gel left in New Jersey buddy???
Anyone notice how many Italian-Americans there are in these pictures???? I'm not saying.......I'm just saying....it's an awful strange coincidence.
Bigragu is going to kill me but at least I didn't call them wops.....I thought about it though.......really really hard hahahahaha.
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Oh and if anyone gets offended at my previous post, I am sorry....I'm really not a bigot
.... I just play one on Saddo's. ;D
But no seriously, if anyone has their feelings hurt, I am sorry beforehand
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Lyle
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Beanflicker
They are two different sports, one no better than the other. You people who say "fuck MMA, its garbage, ect" should be ashamed of yourselves. You're just as ignorant as the MMA fans who claim boxing is outdated and boring.
Of course MMA and boxing are going to clash and compete for the public's dollar, but why do MMA and boxing fans have to clash too? I believe if you're a true fight fan, you can easily like and follow both of them, because both (along with K-1) have some fantastic, skilled athletes and put on great fights for the fans.
Lets try to chill out, lose the elitist attitudes and just enjoy good fights, no matter what rules they are held under.
.....I am not ashamed of myself....when MMA decides to not have a fan base of douchebags then I'll try my damnedest to give it some respect...until then you're either going to have to ignore me OR debate me....I suggest ignoring it would be easier for both of us and you never know, if people don't bring MMA up then maybe I won't continue to shit all over it.
That chinese dude has the fucking Olympic rings on his forehead....seriously???? Do the chinese Olympics mean THAT much to you???? Oh wait a second, I think he's the favorite to win the rickshaw races this summer.....yes I know it's a bit un-PC but I'm willing to sacrifice other people's feelings in the name of humor, because that IS funny.
As for the white guy with the face full of tats under Mr. CooL ICE....it looks like someone played a practical joke on Michael Moore when he was passed out after 5 hours of binge eating at the Golden Corral.
The "quintisental douchebag" looks like Paulie Malinaggi and Peter Manfredo had a baby....and yes I realize that Paulie and Peter are boxers but that doesn't stop them from being douchebags.
And the musclehead under the Malinaggi-Manfredo hybrid looks like he lackered his hair...is there anymore hair gel left in New Jersey buddy???
Anyone notice how many Italian-Americans there are in these pictures???? I'm not saying.......I'm just saying....it's an awful strange coincidence.
Bigragu is going to kill me but at least I didn't call them wops.....I thought about it though.......really really hard hahahahaha.
I will be honest and say I just pee'd a little;D
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5 billion dollars says that blonde that's with Mr. Hair Gel has a "tramp stamp"....you know the tattoo right over a girl's ass....I'm betting perhaps a butterfly or maybe even a popcicle melting or something that a prostitute or a porn star would have.
she probably has a cesarean scar as well
But alas, I am just guessing
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Lyle
5 billion dollars says that blonde that's with Mr. Hair Gel has a "tramp stamp"....you know the tattoo right over a girl's ass....I'm betting perhaps a butterfly or maybe even a popcicle melting or something that a prostitute or a porn star would have.
she probably has a cesarean scar as well
But alas, I am just guessing
Possibly a bullet wound or two... I'm betting you're right Lyle... Possibly an anklet tattoo aswell... Whores love that shit;D
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An ankle or wrist tattoo...which is always explained as such ....
"This really means a lot to me, I was going through some tough times and I got this Chinese symbol meaning strength and anytime I am feeling down I sort of hold it and it 'like ya know' reminds me that I am powerful and that some day I am going to get my baby back and get my life on track......right after I quit using meth"
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all this talking crap on MMA... geeze.... i love MMA, its great, its as close as street fighting as you can get without the felonys...
but boxing is classic and the sport of gentlement as they say.
both are equaly as exciting to watch. there are boring MMA fights, and boring Boxing matchs, as are there amazing MMA fight and Amazing boxing matchs...
in my opinion boxing is much harder to do.... for me. MMA just takes brute streangth and firce anger.
Boxing take so much thought and planing in a instance.
ok PS. i have a trible tattoo.. so shush.... they should just change then name to MMA fighter tattoos now.
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Narcoleptic Pug, you may not know it yet, but Lyle hates you.
Anyways, I think this stuff peaked at UFC 71 when MMA was at it's peak as far as mainstream press goes with Rampage - Chuck. It has really proved to be irrelevant as neither sport is hurting the other. UFC gets no press on ESPN anymore and boxing still occasionally does and that's all boxing fans can ask for. UFC has had decent ratings but they rarely compete with a big boxing card although I think the last UFC happened on Hopkins-Calzaghe night. And I haven't seen the buys for that yet but I doubt either was effected by the other.
So garbage article, this issue is dead. Otherwise it's all just dumb stereotypes. Most people look at boxing with the stereotype that they are all Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali, which is a much worse stereotype I think.
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Lyle
An ankle or wrist tattoo...which is always explained as such ....
"This really means a lot to me, I was going through some tough times and I got this Chinese symbol meaning strength and anytime I am feeling down I sort of hold it and it 'like ya know' reminds me that I am powerful and that some day I am going to get my baby back and get my life on track......right after I quit using meth"
hahaha this chick friend just told me she was getting a tat on her wrist, I advised strongly against it, so she got a swallow on her hip instead. Probably a good fit for her as she loves giving head, but tat's are hard for a chick to pull off.
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Yes hard for chicks to pull off if they want to avoid looking like a whore....some of them fully embrace their whoreness.
narcolepticpug, I've tried really hard to give MMA a chance....I even watched a little last night to see if maybe I was too hard on MMA and their fans and what did I see??? A foot stomp....not only can you roll around on the ground trying to lock up something called a "rear naked choke" or lie on your back and kick at someone like a turtle who has been turned on it's back and can't roll over but you can stomp on your opponent's foot....I thought this was Mixed Martial Arts??? Since when did the Three Stooges have a martial art???? Maybe next time we can see some of this ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bit9YxtTamY
I'm not keeping other people from liking MMA, I'm just keeping them from telling me how great it is.
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I think the people in MMA are ridiculous they always talk about the 8 or 10 oz. pillows that boxers use.I simply say that's because they can punch.Many will say there's all types of fighting Jiu Jitsu,Tai Bo,Kung Pow Chicken what the F$$K ever else they do. Again I will say sit down and watch this it's all the same thing WRESTLING AND PUNCHING.The days of Joyce Grace are long gone everyone is into bodybuilding,looking good for the camera,and yes Lyle my god those F**king chincy @$$ tribal tattoo's.I can easily have one of you guys follow me with a camera foloow me out to a bar make an octagon a beat the be-devil out of some pour sapp and tote how much more skill is involved with MMA than boxing.Now for christ's sake they have added yet again another wrinkle it's Yama pit fighting.THe octagon wasn't good enough now we need a Yama. WHAT THE F**K is a Yama.
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Lyle
Yes hard for chicks to pull off if they want to avoid looking like a whore....some of them fully embrace their whoreness.
narcolepticpug, I've tried really hard to give MMA a chance....I even watched a little last night to see if maybe I was too hard on MMA and their fans and what did I see??? A foot stomp....not only can you roll around on the ground trying to lock up something called a "rear naked choke" or lie on your back and kick at someone like a turtle who has been turned on it's back and can't roll over but you can stomp on your opponent's foot....I thought this was Mixed Martial Arts??? Since when did the Three Stooges have a martial art???? Maybe next time we can see some of this ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bit9YxtTamY
I'm not keeping other people from liking MMA, I'm just keeping them from telling me how great it is.
HAHAHAHAHA.. i saw that fight last night. and i thought, damn stompin on his foot what a great idea. and by the way everyone knows MMA has nothing to do with mixed martial arts anymore. its just about the first person the knock the otherone out no mater how ya do it.
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Which is why Kimbo Slice is now a superstar.....way to work it out MMA. The next step towards international crackhead fights :rolleyes:
....and yes I've heard Kimbo doesn't do drugs and loves his kids and blah blah blah...I'm just saying he doesn't have the technical ability to box and therefore he chose MMA and to everyone's amazement he's able to have a ZZ Top beard and take punches from the limp wristed sissies that try to "strike" him.....maybe they should stomp on his foot ;D
"Ow......hey man, that was uncalled for! Ouch....who stomps on a foot? Really? I'm trying to fight you!"
"Oh, a wise guy eh....knuk, knuk, knuk" (finger poke to the eyes)
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Lyle
5 billion dollars says that blonde that's with Mr. Hair Gel has a "tramp stamp"....you know the tattoo right over a girl's ass....I'm betting perhaps a butterfly or maybe even a popcicle melting or something that a prostitute or a porn star would have.
she probably has a cesarean scar as well
But alas, I am just guessing
But you still would :bananasex: wouldnt you Colonel Sanders;D
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Who are you calling Colonel Sanders? Don't you have a bunch of chimneys to go clean???
And I would consider it...after a few Maker's Marks I wouldn't really care what she looked like
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Lyle
An ankle or wrist tattoo...which is always explained as such ....
"This really means a lot to me, I was going through some tough times and I got this Chinese symbol meaning strength and anytime I am feeling down I sort of hold it and it 'like ya know' reminds me that I am powerful and that some day I am going to get my baby back and get my life on track......right after I quit using meth"
Funny. But you take this mma thing so personal it makes me wonder if that quote is from an ex girlfriend that left you for an mma fighter??? :eek: :bananasex:
Just so bitter. There's gotta be some personal experience here.:-\
Fess up Lyle. We won't think any less of you. It could be very healing for you to get it out. You're among friends. :bawling:
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...I hate to disappoint you fightgame, I just hate MMA because it's crap there is no real story behind it other than it sucks balls
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Lyle
...I hate to disappoint you fightgame, I just hate MMA because it's crap there is no real story behind it other than it sucks balls
So does cornholin, but you still do that at family picnics;D
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I play Beirut and I'll whip anyone's ass in it too
Beer pong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In America we like competition and we also like drinking and so often times we combine the two
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Lyle
All the boozing I ever did and I never played this game.... Probably because I would rather drink all the beer... ;D I'm having a picnic at my house in a few so maybe I'll tell the boys to set a table up:cool:
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The Fightfan
I think the people in MMA are ridiculous they always talk about the 8 or 10 oz. pillows that boxers use.I simply say that's because they can punch.Many will say there's all types of fighting Jiu Jitsu,Tai Bo,Kung Pow Chicken what the F$$K ever else they do. Again I will say sit down and watch this it's all the same thing WRESTLING AND PUNCHING.The days of Joyce Grace are long gone everyone is into bodybuilding,looking good for the camera,and yes Lyle my god those F**king chincy @$$ tribal tattoo's.I can easily have one of you guys follow me with a camera foloow me out to a bar make an octagon a beat the be-devil out of some pour sapp and tote how much more skill is involved with MMA than boxing.Now for christ's sake they have added yet again another wrinkle it's Yama pit fighting.THe octagon wasn't good enough now we need a Yama. WHAT THE F**K is a Yama.
Whilst the talent pool isn't as deep for MMA yet as it is in boxing there are some exceptionally talented fighters at the top of the game.
Guys like Anderson Silva, Cung Lee, B J Penn and George St Pierre are as talented as anybody in boxing.
The potential skill set is much much higher in MMA and how you can say all the fighting styles are the same is completely beyond me.
There is a world of difference from say the strong stand up and take down defense style of Lydell, to the awesome striking and submission skills of Anderson Silva to the amazing leg kicks, spinning back fists and throws of Cung Lee and the super slams from Rampage Jackson.
MMA has advanced in the last couple years to the point where some of my favourite fights of the past 24 months have been in MMA rather than boxing.
Even the recent ultimate fighter winners like Nate Diaz and Mac Danzig demonstrate a superb and wide ranging skill set and let's be clear they would absolutely own any boxer of the same weight in a real fight.
I love boxing but I also love MMA. As JT Tock will tell you I used to be hater of the highest order but the more I've got into the sport the more I appreciate all of the different skill sets required to compete at the top level.
And I'd rather watch George St Pierre, Cung Lee, Rampage Jackson, Anderson Silva, Nate Diaz, Fedor Emilianenko, Randy Couture etc over Bernard Hopkins any day of the week.
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That's great, enjoy the foot stomping :thumb:
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Lyle
...I hate to disappoint you fightgame, I just hate MMA because it's crap there is no real story behind it other than it sucks balls
Seriously dude. I wish you'd stop puzzy footing around and tell us what you really think.
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The Fightfan
I think the people in MMA are ridiculous they always talk about the 8 or 10 oz. pillows that boxers use.I simply say that's because they can punch.Many will say there's all types of fighting Jiu Jitsu,Tai Bo,Kung Pow Chicken what the F$$K ever else they do. Again I will say sit down and watch this it's all the same thing WRESTLING AND PUNCHING.The days of Joyce Grace are long gone everyone is into bodybuilding,looking good for the camera,and yes Lyle my god those F**king chincy @$$ tribal tattoo's.I can easily have one of you guys follow me with a camera foloow me out to a bar make an octagon a beat the be-devil out of some pour sapp and tote how much more skill is involved with MMA than boxing.Now for christ's sake they have added yet again another wrinkle it's Yama pit fighting.THe octagon wasn't good enough now we need a Yama. WHAT THE F**K is a Yama.
Whilst the talent pool isn't as deep for MMA yet as it is in boxing there are some exceptionally talented fighters at the top of the game.
Guys like Anderson Silva, Cung Lee, B J Penn and George St Pierre are as talented as anybody in boxing.
The potential skill set is much much higher in MMA and how you can say all the fighting styles are the same is completely beyond me.
There is a world of difference from say the strong stand up and take down defense style of Lydell, to the awesome striking and submission skills of Anderson Silva to the amazing leg kicks, spinning back fists and throws of Cung Lee and the super slams from Rampage Jackson.
MMA has advanced in the last couple years to the point where some of my favourite fights of the past 24 months have been in MMA rather than boxing.
Even the recent ultimate fighter winners like Nate Diaz and Mac Danzig demonstrate a superb and wide ranging skill set and let's be clear they would absolutely own any boxer of the same weight in a real fight.
I love boxing but I also love MMA. As JT Tock will tell you I used to be hater of the highest order but the more I've got into the sport the more I appreciate all of the different skill sets required to compete at the top level.
And I'd rather watch George St Pierre, Cung Lee, Rampage Jackson, Anderson Silva, Nate Diaz, Fedor Emilianenko, Randy Couture etc over Bernard Hopkins any day of the week.
All I can say is I respect your opinion but you won't change mine or others,but what I can say is I've fought many of these so called tough guy MMA people.The most recent was a striker who's record is 10-0 with 8 K.O.'s in the super heavyweight division. He decided to work on his boxing skills a bit more and was strutting around the gym like he owned it.Not too talk too much S**T but that guy left with a bloody nose and cut's under both eye's and I haven't seen him since.All I know his name is Brad.
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Re: This guy get's my F-U award
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Lyle
Is that a tribal tattoo??? You know, you don't see many of those these days ;D ....and on an MMA fighter, well isn't that new and different
Um, excuse me.....I'm looking for a Mr. Cool Ice......anyone seen him around??? That's Cool as in "Tattoo's are cool" and ICE as in the Foreigner song "Cold as Ice"......so if anyone sees him, let me know.
mr cool ice from some german tv show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBCD34F0PYc
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Re: This guy get's my F-U award
...So he's German too???? 1 billion dollars says he's related to Jax or Royal!
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Re: This guy get's my F-U award
Lyle only one of those guys was from MMA, and that was the least ass looking one Josh Haynes.
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Re: This guy get's my F-U award
...you said "least" ass looking one of them meaning they all to some degree look like asses.
And he still looks like a total douchebag and follows the stereotype which I have put forth and therefore I am vindicated.
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Re: This guy get's my F-U award
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SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
Is that a tribal tattoo??? You know, you don't see many of those these days ;D ....and on an MMA fighter, well isn't that new and different
Um, excuse me.....I'm looking for a Mr. Cool Ice......anyone seen him around??? That's Cool as in "Tattoo's are cool" and ICE as in the Foreigner song "Cold as Ice"......so if anyone sees him, let me know.
mr cool ice from some german tv show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBCD34F0PYc
Damn this video is just sad
