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Two of the mismatches of the year happen in June, Kelly Pavlik takes on Gary Lockett who although is a strong domestic fighter will surely be totally out of his depth with Pavlik. The other the Alex Arthur takes on Joan Guzman, once again Arthur is a great domestic fighter but Guzman will be head and shoulders about anyone Arthur has fought before and as his chin is a little suspect I doubt either will hear the final bell.
Lockett gets hit with a lot of right hands which i have saw in the past, so he is in for a beating, And Arthur is exciting but very limited as that showed in his last fight, and against Gomez, i can't see either man lasting the distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
Whats the odds on locket to win...Did the bookies even bother taking bets?
Don't think it's priced up yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
Lockett will be a BIG underdog though that's for certain. Maybe he could land a "lucky" one :cool:
NOT YET, I think possibly would be the biggest upset in boxing history if Lockett pulled it off;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
Replace lucky with divine intervention ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterDon't think it's priced up yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
Lockett will be a BIG underdog though that's for certain. Maybe he could land a "lucky" one :cool:
Yeah that'll do
whatever it takes ;D
There's been bigger shocks than a Lockett-level fighter beating a Pavlik-level fighter :cool:
Really when?, a lot see Douglas beating Tyson as one of the biggest shocks but Tyson was in a nose dive and Buster Douglas held a reasonable record. I know Locketts record is ok but he has never fought anyone, he is a domestic fighter, and lost to poor opposition (Got bashed up) I know he has since got his revenge but come on if Lockett beats Pavlik that surely has to be the biggest upset, apart from maybe Spinks beating AliQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Lockett is gonna have a rough go at it. I have a hard time seeing any path that leads him to victory, would be a pretty reasonable upset if he pulls it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
Kudos to Guzman, for fighting on enemy soil to defend his title. Not too many strap holders would do that. Must be pretty confident. He's going to make Arthur look really bad.
I wouldn't rate it alongside the famous upsets of "great" fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyReally when?, a lot see Douglas beating Tyson as one of the biggest shocks but Tyson was in a nose dive and Buster Douglas held a reasonable record. I know Locketts record is ok but he has never fought anyone, he is a domestic fighter, and lost to poor opposition (Got bashed up) I know he has since got his revenge but come on if Lockett beats Pavlik that surely has to be the biggest upset, apart from maybe Spinks beating AliQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I don't think Pavlik is that great. I think he will lose sooner rather than later.. so considering Lockett is experienced, has nothing to lose and possesses a decent whack i wouldn't rate it the biggest shock ever.
(For the record - I do not think Lockett will win. I think Pavlik will KO him.. EARLY ;D)
Guzman doesn't stop anybody anymore so I guess that will be the question, if he can stop Arthur. I'm not really sure how bad Arthur's chin is, only seen four or five of his fights. Didn't he get hurt pretty bad last time out? Against some guy who's name I can't remember.
Kelly has worked his way up the chain very quietly and guys who do that tend not to get the recognition they deserve, I don't think he is the best he can certainly be outboxed, I think a Winky Wright, Calzaghe, Hopkins or any of the older Greats Hagler, SRL would have given him all kinds of problems but when it come to standing slugging it out he has to be considered one of the best ever, he stood toe to toe with Miranda, a feat that I am sure not many would fancy, in the first fight Taylor was on a seek and destroy mission and he stood up to that and came back to win, the kid has got a fighters heart, he is unbeaten he has some great wins under his belt, maybe not enough to call him a true great just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterI wouldn't rate it alongside the famous upsets of "great" fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyReally when?, a lot see Douglas beating Tyson as one of the biggest shocks but Tyson was in a nose dive and Buster Douglas held a reasonable record. I know Locketts record is ok but he has never fought anyone, he is a domestic fighter, and lost to poor opposition (Got bashed up) I know he has since got his revenge but come on if Lockett beats Pavlik that surely has to be the biggest upset, apart from maybe Spinks beating AliQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I don't think Pavlik is that great. I think he will lose sooner rather than later.. so considering Lockett is experienced, has nothing to lose and possesses a decent whack i wouldn't rate it the biggest shock ever.
(For the record - I do not think Lockett will win. I think Pavlik will KO him.. EARLY ;D)
Michael Gomez (Amir Khan's new Opponent) took him out and really exposed him, Arthur give him his credit desperately fought back and refused to quit, and in his last fight Foster Jr had him down and almost out, how he got through the rest of the fight can only be creditied to the size of his heart as it was a heavy knockdown. Arthur is a brave guy but Guzman will walk through anything he has and when he catches him, he will finish him.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur-Guzman gets called off again (can't remember, has a new date been officially announced?).
Frank Warren promoted Guzman a few years back. I don't believe he, and the rest of Team Arthur, could possibly believe they have the beating of Guz
Guzman don't KO anyone anymore but I'll be betting that changes should this fight happen.
Those are good tune-up fights Pavlik and Guzman.
Pavlik-lockett will prove to be an awful one sided massacre that gets stopped after 3-4 rounds.
arthur will get stopped late on against guzman despite a spirited performance.
For the record juan lazcano and tony thompson are on much bigger hiding to nothings if you ask me!!
I like the title of this thread. And agree with it fully. Lockett garbage ass and Arthur have no chance
Maybe Pavlik's team are thinking if the beat up Calzaghes gym mate in Lockett real bad they can get to Calzaghe;D.
As for Arthur he will get battered for a few rounds then get stopped or his corner will pull him out.
YOU'RE WRONG.
The Welsh and the Scots are in for a bashing :D
English boxing is gonna see another KO win for the Hitman this month :cool:
Well Lloyd Honeyghan beating p4p number 1 Donald Curry would still be considered a bigger upset if Lockett defeated Pavlik.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyReally when?, a lot see Douglas beating Tyson as one of the biggest shocks but Tyson was in a nose dive and Buster Douglas held a reasonable record. I know Locketts record is ok but he has never fought anyone, he is a domestic fighter, and lost to poor opposition (Got bashed up) I know he has since got his revenge but come on if Lockett beats Pavlik that surely has to be the biggest upset, apart from maybe Spinks beating AliQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster