Zelenoff; Let's wrap it up.

In the time I've spent here at Saddo's Charlie Zelenoff and his aliases ProBoxer18 and Baller27 have been a running joke and a focal point of discussion among Saddo forum members.
Of course Zelenoff himself elevated his own status with his verbal ramopages broadcast internationally via Youtube.
For many posters here, his story was one looked upon as bothe a source of puzzlement and amusement.

I only fleetingly came to know Charlie before I lost interest in the whole debacle, i have no persoanl interaction with him, but I feel we should kill the story here. When we spent time laughing at a faceless forum poster that was fine, but his own name and identity are now the source of our collective ridicule and I feel that this has to be emotionally damaging for him.

From what I have gathered Charlie during this entire melee, was only motivated by the affection he received from his mother and his uncle's encouragement. Apart from one vague reference, which he never elaborated on Charlie never mentioned that he had friends. He never alluded towards any education or employment and although his "fight" took place in a school gym, I feel that he may be lost in life.

It has also crossed my mind, that mentally, Zelenoff is not "fully there." I'm not excusing his actions saying that he is mentally disabled, but from his posts he certainly gives the impression that he is a little simple, to put it bluntly.

So, I ask you guys, can we let this thing die.
I honestly feel too sorry for him to let this continue.
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

In the time I've spent here at Saddo's Charlie Zelenoff and his aliases ProBoxer18 and Baller27 have been a running joke and a focal point of discussion among Saddo forum members.
Of course Zelenoff himself elevated his own status with his verbal ramopages broadcast internationally via Youtube.
For many posters here, his story was one looked upon as bothe a source of puzzlement and amusement.

I only fleetingly came to know Charlie before I lost interest in the whole debacle, i have no persoanl interaction with him, but I feel we should kill the story here. When we spent time laughing at a faceless forum poster that was fine, but his own name and identity are now the source of our collective ridicule and I feel that this has to be emotionally damaging for him.

From what I have gathered Charlie during this entire melee, was only motivated by the affection he received from his mother and his uncle's encouragement. Apart from one vague reference, which he never elaborated on Charlie never mentioned that he had friends. He never alluded towards any education or employment and although his "fight" took place in a school gym, I feel that he may be lost in life.

It has also crossed my mind, that mentally, Zelenoff is not "fully there." I'm not excusing his actions saying that he is mentally disabled, but from his posts he certainly gives the impression that he is a little simple, to put it bluntly.

So, I ask you guys, can we let this thing die.
I honestly feel too sorry for him to let this continue.
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I felt sorry for him too after reading that quote regarding his mother and uncle. I began to genuinely pity him after watching his fight, I found it so depressing that I could only watch it once.

I double dog dare you to say all that stuff to his face.

Actually I vote to continue laughing at him............;D

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Originally Posted by thecontender13

I double dog dare you to say all that stuff to his face.

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Dawg...Charlie spells it Dawg.

No. I shouldn't be doing that. The boy was crying just before his last video:o:(:(

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Actually I vote to continue laughing at him............;D

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I knew you would:D

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

In the time I've spent here at Saddo's Charlie Zelenoff and his aliases ProBoxer18 and Baller27 have been a running joke and a focal point of discussion among Saddo forum members.
Of course Zelenoff himself elevated his own status with his verbal ramopages broadcast internationally via Youtube.
For many posters here, his story was one looked upon as bothe a source of puzzlement and amusement.

I only fleetingly came to know Charlie before I lost interest in the whole debacle, i have no persoanl interaction with him, but I feel we should kill the story here. When we spent time laughing at a faceless forum poster that was fine, but his own name and identity are now the source of our collective ridicule and I feel that this has to be emotionally damaging for him.

From what I have gathered Charlie during this entire melee, was only motivated by the affection he received from his mother and his uncle's encouragement. Apart from one vague reference, which he never elaborated on Charlie never mentioned that he had friends. He never alluded towards any education or employment and although his "fight" took place in a school gym, I feel that he may be lost in life.

It has also crossed my mind, that mentally, Zelenoff is not "fully there." I'm not excusing his actions saying that he is mentally disabled, but from his posts he certainly gives the impression that he is a little simple, to put it bluntly.

So, I ask you guys, can we let this thing die.
I honestly feel too sorry for him to let this continue.
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Ironically, this is probably the post that would hurt his feelings most, a few home truths lol. I'm not sure about the guy, I still feel he might be doing all this as a joke, but if he is serious there is something certainly wrong.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

In the time I've spent here at Saddo's Charlie Zelenoff and his aliases ProBoxer18 and Baller27 have been a running joke and a focal point of discussion among Saddo forum members.
Of course Zelenoff himself elevated his own status with his verbal ramopages broadcast internationally via Youtube.
For many posters here, his story was one looked upon as bothe a source of puzzlement and amusement.

I only fleetingly came to know Charlie before I lost interest in the whole debacle, i have no persoanl interaction with him, but I feel we should kill the story here. When we spent time laughing at a faceless forum poster that was fine, but his own name and identity are now the source of our collective ridicule and I feel that this has to be emotionally damaging for him.

From what I have gathered Charlie during this entire melee, was only motivated by the affection he received from his mother and his uncle's encouragement. Apart from one vague reference, which he never elaborated on Charlie never mentioned that he had friends. He never alluded towards any education or employment and although his "fight" took place in a school gym, I feel that he may be lost in life.

It has also crossed my mind, that mentally, Zelenoff is not "fully there." I'm not excusing his actions saying that he is mentally disabled, but from his posts he certainly gives the impression that he is a little simple, to put it bluntly.

So, I ask you guys, can we let this thing die.
I honestly feel too sorry for him to let this continue.
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Ironically, this is probably the post that would hurt his feelings most, a few home truths lol. I'm not sure about the guy, I still feel he might be doing all this as a joke, but if he is serious there is something certainly wrong.

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I realised that while I was typing.

i also realise deeming him "a bit simple" is perhaos more hurtful than any swear word or denigration, but it's the impression he has given.

I do feel sorry for him. Out there somewhere is a parent who loves him and is proud of who he is. It would break hi/her/their heart(s) if they saw such ridicule at their sons expense.

I just want to drop it.

He's defo serious.

He epitomises everything that is wrong with the world today.

A bit like an unattractive male version of Paris Hilton.

When it all comes down to it, idiot or not zelenoff attempted to back up what he had been saying and i personally have nothing but admiration for the guy who got into the ring something that i probably would never have the balls to do.

The guy is immature for his age sure, but at the end of the day if someone willingly puts themselves out there like he has, he has to be expect his gonna get it back tenfold.

Only recently followed the whole silly episode and found out it hilarious. But as ive already said at the same time kudos to charlie for stepping up to the plate even if it did involve him coming off even worse for it.

Now this is the guy i really wanna fuck up badly:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Idt459NZQE

watch that vid and others he has brought out previously. That is one fucked up human being that unlike charlie is way beyond help!!

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

When it all comes down to it, idiot or not zelenoff attempted to back up what he had been saying and i personally have nothing but admiration for the guy who got into the ring something that i probably would never have the balls to do.

The guy is immature for his age sure, but at the end of the day if someone willingly puts themselves out there like he has, he has to be expect his gonna get it back tenfold.

Only recently followed the whole silly episode and found out it hilarious. But as ive already said at the same time kudos to charlie for stepping up to the plate even if it did involve him coming off even worse for it.

Now this is the guy i really wanna fuck up badly:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Idt459NZQE

watch that vid and others he has brought out previously. That is one fucked up human being that unlike charlie is way beyond help!!

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or they are seriously delusional.

We all know bigheads with even bigger mouths and love it when they get knocked down is how I see it. It sort of reminds me of those tough man contests you used to see on tv, they'd be up there saying how good they were because they had a punchbag at home and you couldn't wait for the first person to throw a decent to snap their head back:cool:

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

When it all comes down to it, idiot or not zelenoff attempted to back up what he had been saying and i personally have nothing but admiration for the guy who got into the ring something that i probably would never have the balls to do.

The guy is immature for his age sure, but at the end of the day if someone willingly puts themselves out there like he has, he has to be expect his gonna get it back tenfold.

Only recently followed the whole silly episode and found out it hilarious. But as ive already said at the same time kudos to charlie for stepping up to the plate even if it did involve him coming off even worse for it.

Now this is the guy i really wanna fuck up badly:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Idt459NZQE
watch that vid and others he has brought out previously. That is one fucked up human being that unlike charlie is way beyond help!!

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Aye, ive watched this arsehole`s videos a few times and he is a prize bellend. I would actually want Zelenoff to win if they ever came to blows.

Donny stop working so hard to be a nice guy. Dont read the posts, dont go in the threads. Charlie is quite clearly a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.....doesnt mean it isnt funny.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

When it all comes down to it, idiot or not zelenoff attempted to back up what he had been saying and i personally have nothing but admiration for the guy who got into the ring something that i probably would never have the balls to do.

The guy is immature for his age sure, but at the end of the day if someone willingly puts themselves out there like he has, he has to be expect his gonna get it back tenfold.

Only recently followed the whole silly episode and found out it hilarious. But as ive already said at the same time kudos to charlie for stepping up to the plate even if it did involve him coming off even worse for it.

Now this is the guy i really wanna fuck up badly:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Idt459NZQE
watch that vid and others he has brought out previously. That is one fucked up human being that unlike charlie is way beyond help!!

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Aye, ive watched this arsehole`s videos a few times and he is a prize bellend. I would actually want Zelenoff to win if they ever came to blows.

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He has already admitted to being on welfare, having "government cheese" because he cant afford to buy it, living in a shithole with nobody else and has published his address for all the world to see.

He has the ramblings of someone with serious mental problems and seems to of deluded himself into thinking living in squaller and being terribly annoying isnt such a bad thing.

The sort of guy you wanna hit because he is such a cunt but just know your gonna feel bad about it afterwards!!

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Donny stop working so hard to be a nice guy. Dont read the posts, dont go in the threads. Charlie is quite clearly a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.....doesnt mean it isnt funny.

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Man....all he wanted was a hug from his Mom!

How can you not feel sorry for that!

...Zelenoff has an audiance...it's an audiance that wants him to have his ass kicked but an audiance none the less.

I like how you totally revived Zelenoff, Donny, and somehow still come off worried bout us mocking his dumbass. lol :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

In the time I've spent here at Saddo's Charlie Zelenoff and his aliases ProBoxer18 and Baller27 have been a running joke and a focal point of discussion among Saddo forum members.
Of course Zelenoff himself elevated his own status with his verbal ramopages broadcast internationally via Youtube.
For many posters here, his story was one looked upon as bothe a source of puzzlement and amusement.

I only fleetingly came to know Charlie before I lost interest in the whole debacle, i have no persoanl interaction with him, but I feel we should kill the story here. When we spent time laughing at a faceless forum poster that was fine, but his own name and identity are now the source of our collective ridicule and I feel that this has to be emotionally damaging for him.

From what I have gathered Charlie during this entire melee, was only motivated by the affection he received from his mother and his uncle's encouragement. Apart from one vague reference, which he never elaborated on Charlie never mentioned that he had friends. He never alluded towards any education or employment and although his "fight" took place in a school gym, I feel that he may be lost in life.

It has also crossed my mind, that mentally, Zelenoff is not "fully there." I'm not excusing his actions saying that he is mentally disabled, but from his posts he certainly gives the impression that he is a little simple, to put it bluntly.

So, I ask you guys, can we let this thing die.
I honestly feel too sorry for him to let this continue.
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To be honest i think he has had the last laugh, i always thought that this was one big joke. And now he has got everyone talking about him on multiple forums he has achieved what he wanted.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Now this is the guy i really wanna fuck up badly:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Idt459NZQE
watch that vid and others he has brought out previously. That is one fucked up human being that unlike charlie is way beyond help!!

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Who cut this bellends hair? He should kick their ass for that.....FAAAGGIT!

What makes me feel that Charlie is taking everyone for a ride, is a couple videos he has out. One in particular, raises real red flags that is all a promotional stunt.

Take a look at the one where he is interviewed by a sports magazine! LOL

That one, while he probably thought it would infuriate people, he just got overly silly with it, had an accomplice and basically gave himself away.

The "fight" may have been real for him, but those videos are nothing more than viral marketing and he is enjoying every bit of negative and positive attention from them.

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

What makes me feel that Charlie is taking everyone for a ride, is a couple videos he has out. One in particular, raises real red flags that is all a promotional stunt.

Take a look at the one where he is interviewed by a sports magazine! LOL

That one, while he probably thought it would infuriate people, he just got overly silly with it, had an accomplice and basically gave himself away.

The "fight" may have been real for him, but those videos are nothing more than viral marketing and he is enjoying every bit of negative and positive attention from them.

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Couldn't agree more like i said in the previous post he is secretly having the last laugh.

Giving Charlie boy wayyyyyyy too much credit here chaps ;D

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Actually I vote to continue laughing at him............;D

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You would; so it takes everyone's focus away from laughing at YOU:lickish:

Actually I already forgot Baller27 until I saw this thread.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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None taken.

Thats why I posted.
At the end of the day Zelenoff can't box. I never bought into all of the crap and I felt it brought not only our foryum but also boxing into disrepute. I just thought I'd ask one time,,can we let Zelenoff go?

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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None taken.

Thats why I posted.
At the end of the day Zelenoff can't box. I never bought into all of the crap and I felt it brought not only our foryum but also boxing into disrepute. I just thought I'd ask one time,,can we let Zelenoff go?

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Glad you understood...;)

I just felt from the get go, this Zelenoff stuff was a publicity stunt that belonged in the appropriate section of the forum, and then more and more seemed like it was creeping on the front page.. Until boom, this place had nothing else intelligent to talk about than this tool on the front page:rolleyes:

I mean I think another. Mike Tyson Vs Ali is a more productive read than this absolute horseshit of a human being Zelenoff.

Again I have no problems with people laughing and having a good time over ridiculous shit, but do it in the designated place of the forum;)

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...Zelenoff has an audiance...it's an audiance that wants him to have his ass kicked but an audiance none the less.

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Lyle,

Reading these baller threads, and watching the videos. I can't help but think about the posts you made about mma fans. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


I still think there's a story there. You can't have so much hate over some tattoos and goofy attitudes. Come on man, let the healing begin....;D

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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None taken.

Thats why I posted.
At the end of the day Zelenoff can't box. I never bought into all of the crap and I felt it brought not only our foryum but also boxing into disrepute. I just thought I'd ask one time,,can we let Zelenoff go?

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Glad you understood...;)

I just felt from the get go, this Zelenoff stuff was a publicity stunt that belonged in the appropriate section of the forum, and then more and more seemed like it was creeping on the front page.. Until boom, this place had nothing else intelligent to talk about than this tool on the front page:rolleyes:

I mean I think another. Mike Tyson Vs Ali is a more productive read than this absolute horseshit of a human being Zelenoff.

Again I have no problems with people laughing and having a good time over ridiculous shit, but do it in the designated place of the forum;)

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We're on the same carriage of the same train of thought.

Like I said it denigrates boxing that there is a 20 page thread on Charlie Zelenoff and many of the guys here legitimately don't know who Sam Langford was.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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None taken.

Thats why I posted.
At the end of the day Zelenoff can't box. I never bought into all of the crap and I felt it brought not only our foryum but also boxing into disrepute. I just thought I'd ask one time,,can we let Zelenoff go?

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He has also been on the forums at boxrec and boxingscene

At least with this site we can designate the chit chat threads to an entirely different section of the forum.

I for one am of the same thought of logic that zelenoff really isnt that smart enough to be on one big windup.

The guy was like 16 when he started posting on here, went out of his way to get a pro licence and even flew to arkansas to box.

I for one have spent many an hour enjoying the whole chirade, though i do agree with the original post. Some of the stuff thats been mentioned ie:putting down his father, ringing up his gym, death threats etc have been way way over the top.

Hopefully zelenoff continues his fool hardy approach to life and beats that fat fucker whos been calling him out for the last 2 weeks!!

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

When it all comes down to it, idiot or not zelenoff attempted to back up what he had been saying and i personally have nothing but admiration for the guy who got into the ring something that i probably would never have the balls to do.

The guy is immature for his age sure, but at the end of the day if someone willingly puts themselves out there like he has, he has to be expect his gonna get it back tenfold.

Only recently followed the whole silly episode and found out it hilarious. But as ive already said at the same time kudos to charlie for stepping up to the plate even if it did involve him coming off even worse for it.

Now this is the guy i really wanna fuck up badly:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Idt459NZQE

watch that vid and others he has brought out previously. That is one fucked up human being that unlike charlie is way beyond help!!

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OOOHHH!!!!!!!!!!! SHYT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:o

first time i heard about this fool, he say he from tactown, washinton!!!!!!!!?????????? this big mouth is half an hour outside of where im at SEATTLE. and he posted his address :lolhaha:

Not all tacoma is like this but they do have some of those white trash trailer park hoods, its hilarious messing with those fools. they hate seattle people too. I got a girl that lives there, she hates the city but her parents wont let her get away just yet. Damn, i ain't speak to her for a month now. anyways this guy is funny, i know he the type that you can keep beating up but he still think he hard and tough. Or he just the pretend stay home geek type that tryna live a life he can't online.

Man it'll be hilarious I' bring a cam and roll up on this fool and see if that really is his address. Shyt whos with me? ;D

Zelenoff is a twit but I dont think anybody needs to let up on him. He has brought it all on himself. In life you make your choices. He has chosen to make his life public as it were, he can reap what he sows. He's a plonker and chose not to fight in his so called pro debut, he chose to talk shit over the internet...he keeps on doing his Baller 27 thing. You could make excuses for him but I would choose not to.

Let him do as he may. He's got to dissappear after he loses his next fight. Surely!!! :-\

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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Agreed,along with the Kimbo Vs. Butterbean tripe.Good for a laugh and flash in the pan but after his farce Fight,it filled most recent post's for a while.Hey,Not a hypocrite....I was there :-X

There's a new kid in town, and his name is Youngblood. That is all.

Thanks boss.

If I was a good boxer, I would be tempted to try to get sanctioned a tomato can for like 40 days in a row. Imagine if Kassim Ouma of someone like that fought guys like this like every single night. Thats what I would do. And people would give you alot of shit about it, but they couldn't give you that much because you were staying so active, which very few can say.
Then I would fight someone like Jermain Taylor who would beat the living shit out of me but couldn't knock me out because his power is so over-rated. Yeah, thats what I would do. And all the while I would tell the story of how an army stole me away as a child and forced me into throwing like 10,ooo pitter patter punches a day.

:rolleyes: Fukk u guys u dont no shiet dawgs, one day Charlies gonna be champ, then all u sucker are gonna be like I knew he was a great, yallz jus haders man.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

No offense to you Donny, but when this topic first surfaced its a reason why people have grown weary of some of this retrded stuff...

This subject from the get go belongs in the Lets get it on section... this Zelenoff escapade is toilet fodder and is not front page worthy

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Agreed,along with the Kimbo Vs. Butterbean tripe.Good for a laugh and flash in the pan but after his farce Fight,it filled most recent post's for a while.Hey,Not a hypocrite....I was there :-X

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kimbo will actually be fighting on CBS at the end of this month


PRIME TIME saturday night on network TV


he will be the first ever live MMA main event on network television





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I THINK B STERGE IS GOING PRO :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnBLyy-_1tE

I'm sorry, but as long as this guy is putting out stuff like this, I just can't let it go:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD0aBj8g4kE

Charlie and this dude spreading each others ph numbers all over the innernetz...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzI6e4bVwI

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

In the time I've spent here at Saddo's Charlie Zelenoff and his aliases ProBoxer18 and Baller27 have been a running joke and a focal point of discussion among Saddo forum members.
Of course Zelenoff himself elevated his own status with his verbal ramopages broadcast internationally via Youtube.
For many posters here, his story was one looked upon as bothe a source of puzzlement and amusement.

I only fleetingly came to know Charlie before I lost interest in the whole debacle, i have no persoanl interaction with him, but I feel we should kill the story here. When we spent time laughing at a faceless forum poster that was fine, but his own name and identity are now the source of our collective ridicule and I feel that this has to be emotionally damaging for him.

From what I have gathered Charlie during this entire melee, was only motivated by the affection he received from his mother and his uncle's encouragement. Apart from one vague reference, which he never elaborated on Charlie never mentioned that he had friends. He never alluded towards any education or employment and although his "fight" took place in a school gym, I feel that he may be lost in life.

It has also crossed my mind, that mentally, Zelenoff is not "fully there." I'm not excusing his actions saying that he is mentally disabled, but from his posts he certainly gives the impression that he is a little simple, to put it bluntly.

So, I ask you guys, can we let this thing die.
I honestly feel too sorry for him to let this continue.
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Okay, I never have been hard on Zelenoff. I was also thinking that he was just a victim of his circumstance.

I hope Zelenoff stops uploading his vids in the internet for him to avoid humiliation and ridicule. Somebody should suggest him that.:cool:

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

What makes me feel that Charlie is taking everyone for a ride, is a couple videos he has out. One in particular, raises real red flags that is all a promotional stunt.

Take a look at the one where he is interviewed by a sports magazine! LOL

That one, while he probably thought it would infuriate people, he just got overly silly with it, had an accomplice and basically gave himself away.

The "fight" may have been real for him, but those videos are nothing more than viral marketing and he is enjoying every bit of negative and positive attention from them.

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Dunno like... he was on here almost 4 years ago.