Edner Cherry seems to be on the up, Johnson on the way down, think is quite an evenly matched contest, who you going for?
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Edner Cherry seems to be on the up, Johnson on the way down, think is quite an evenly matched contest, who you going for?
I think Cherry is a pretty good fighter who isn't quite good enough to make waves at world class, Johnson is beyond finished. Not an even matchup if you ask me.
Bit harsh Johnson has won 3 out of last 4 against better than average opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Johnson who?
Stevie, JohnsTon actually. Sure you know him, fought Castillo twice years ago.
Apologies always miss that TQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I think Cherry is a very underrated fighter who was in tough pretty early. He is a warrior though and fights anyone. He did get schooled kind of by Paulie but he was a good shot away from having Paulie flopping around the ring. Paulie was as usual on the backfoot and frustrated him. I don't think Stevie can pull that off, he is 35+ and Cherry hits pretty hard when he can catch ya. Edner is gonna drop a Cherry bomb on Johnston and this will be a little more one sided than it looks on paper. Thats just my opinion, I've been known to be wrong....This matchup sucks because I don't want to see either guy lose.
Last I saw him was against Viv Harris, and he looked completely shot... Since you brought it up I boxrec'ed his last few opponents. Better than average is not really the way I'd label them. The 3 he beat are basically unknown, not quite even journeyman level, who have been KO'ed by anyone good they ever fought. And he was dropped twice than retired against Rolando Reyes, who is a garbage, nothing fighter himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyBit harsh Johnson has won 3 out of last 4 against better than average opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Think Toledo would be rated as better than averageQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingLast I saw him was against Viv Harris, and he looked completely shot... Since you brought it up I boxrec'ed his last few opponents. Better than average is not really the way I'd label them. The 3 he beat are basically unknown, not quite even journeyman level, who have been KO'ed by anyone good they ever fought. And he was dropped twice than retired against Rolando Reyes, who is a garbage, nothing fighter himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyBit harsh Johnson has won 3 out of last 4 against better than average opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Stevie Johnston is past it but never really got his just due.A gentleman and slick diverse gutsy boxer.Hey,Its the year of the upsets....Vs. Cherry ?Stevie will come in top form.Really though,Johnston might need to be watched closely for his own sake
Thanks P4P I owed rep anyways.
Yeah this is a mismatch. Cherry is an awesome fighter, one of my favorites to. His bout with Santa Cruz was an all action fight, outstanding bout I think it was on the undercard of the dreadful Castillo-Reyes bill. Great fight and Cherry got done wrong by the judges I've rooted for him ever since.
But yeah Johnston is well past his best days, he looked absolutely horrible against Vivian Harris. Granted he was a late sub but looked bad nonetheless. Haven't seen him since I hate to see him still fighting.
Have you seen him fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyThink Toledo would be rated as better than averageQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingLast I saw him was against Viv Harris, and he looked completely shot... Since you brought it up I boxrec'ed his last few opponents. Better than average is not really the way I'd label them. The 3 he beat are basically unknown, not quite even journeyman level, who have been KO'ed by anyone good they ever fought. And he was dropped twice than retired against Rolando Reyes, who is a garbage, nothing fighter himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
Ha ha yes a few times actually, he is far from a world beater by any means, but I think better than average is fair. A complete journeyman with equal wins to losses would be considered as average, he is a little better than this but not much. He has beaten a string of nobodies and lost every time he has stepped out of his depthQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingHave you seen him fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyThink Toledo would be rated as better than averageQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I haven't, but just looking at his record it's pretty clear he's no class fighter.. Fought a bunch of 0-3-2 type guys in Nicaragua, came to the States got stopped in 3 by Humberto Soto, then lost a UD to a shot Stevie Johnston, then got startched in a round by Lamont Peterson, who is a great prospect, but no big puncher. This fight only looks good on paper, trust me. Cherry is actuallya very good, hungry fighter. Perhaps you don't realize this.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandyHa ha yes a few times actually, he is far from a world beater by any means, but I think better than average is fair. A complete journeyman with equal wins to losses would be considered as average, he is a little better than this but not much. He has beaten a string of nobodies and lost every time he has stepped out of his depthQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingHave you seen him fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbtandy
have no interest in this, Johnston is way past it. Sad to see a great fighter end his career like this.
There is NO reason why Johnston & Norwood should still be fighting.
There is something about seeing these 'Names' billed to fight and I get really excited.Then It sinks in that These once top superb Fighters are out of tomorrows and not what they once were.Especially Johnston.....I have no interest or desire in seeing him pull a 'Byrd',getting beaten around the ring by some one he would have whipped Solidly in his prime.But I will tune in as a fan.
Not sure if anyones seem this but Norwood vs. Kashimoto although a somewhat slow fight ends in a BRUTAL! KO... Norwood lasy Kashimoto to sleep. Poor Kashimoto lands face 1st on the canvas...:o Lays there for several minutes. :-\
SERIOUSLY i=f ANYONE but van der sar was involved in preempting my man edner cherry id be PISSED
van der sar is gonna EAT some penalty shots here
Never seen that one Mick but read it was A harsh dramatic end.On U-Tube ??Hey what a shock..........The Live ESPN card is delayed :o.......:shakehead:
Add to the list that have delayed the Fist to Cuffs this season,Baseball,NBA Basketball,College Softball,Nascar/Formula one,Ohio state fair Yard darts and Moon pie eating competition,Chinese Pingpong .....and now Soccer or Football As you Brits prefere :biglaugh:
Is this pre Recorded also ??
Dont Fuck With Van Der Sar
Soccer is fukking gay
wait WTF is this shit
why is WNF not on TV?
I don't know WTF. I thought this shit was just in my area. This is fucked up.
trhis ESPN360 shit is BULLSHIT
tyhis fuckin ESPN360 site is PISSING ME OFF
It starts at the top of the hour it got pushed back a bit.
no its live now
on ESPN360
so its gonna be fucking delayed on TV
this BULLSHIT espn 360 website isnt available with time warner
WTF is this bullshit man :mad::mad::mad:
IM PISSED NOW
There was a program alert at 6 that said it would air at 10 eastern time which would be 7 my time so yeah it'll be delayed a bit not live but that's almost to be expected with WNF.
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Originally Posted by amat
i saw that shit too and it said its on live now on ESPN360.com
and that BULLSHIT site took like 10 minutes to explain why it wouldnt run it for me
FUCK ESPN 360
Goddamn it. :mad:
i hope edner chery knocks johnson out of the ring and onto the doucebag at ESPN that made the call to pull this shit
i remember steevie johnston, thats the one that fought castillio and had the win reversed or some shit
Wow,Freddy looks fat.Never could make weight.......Lets hope he keeps it legal Lol.
Looks like two different weight classes.Norwood stalking in and roughing things up.Edwards trying to work jab.Norwood much stronger and ties at end of 1st and hits.
Is it me, or do they look like midgets in that ring? :dontknow:
Yes they do. By the way that's an awesome sig girlQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Haa,Its like the frigging Lolly-pop guild in there.Edwards snapping him up ...Busier to end 2nd.Norwood could have been something but sabotaged the hell out of his Career at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Edwards is feeling this and putting it on Ol'Man Freddie.Opps He hit Norwood square in the nuts.....OHH Norwood on his ass next.Mandatory Retirement inbound .I picture Norwood doing something very.....cough.......Bad
Was it me or did that KD look like an ELBOW ???
Norwood is done as a fighter. He would of never struggled this bad against a fighter like Edwards
Okay, I'm glad it's just not me that sees that. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYes they do. By the way that's an awesome sig girlQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Thanks on the sig compliment!! As usual, my guy made it for me. ;D