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That's the latest I've heard. Says alot about them really. We get one for De La Hoya v Forbes but not for the biggest fight of the year?
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They probably aren't doing it because neither of them speak English (not good enough english, anyway).
That's my guess.
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but they do a De la Hoya - Forbes countdown:confused: :mad:
i think they only did the ODH forbes countdown cuz its a lead in to the mayweather fight and cuz they wanted to make a big deal about how ODH was on regular HBO for the first time in a long time
im pretty sure that they usually only do countdowns for PPVs
Very good point. How entertaining could it be, considering that???Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I don't think that the language is an excuse. There are always translators and that dude with his dramatic narrative voice will get people interested. This is a massive fight which deserves as much build-up as possible. Especially as the winner will be looking for a shot against Floyd Mayweather! Floyd's excuse for not fighting Cotto is that he doesn't bring enough of a fan base for a mega-money bout. HBO aren't exactly helping to put that excuse to rest.
They should absolutely do a countdown for this fight. It's insane not to.
I'm sure that they will do one. They do one for every PPV show, and they will do one for what they consider to be a "special event" free show.
HBO benefits from these shows, because they help sell the event, thus more PPV buys, resulting in more money for them.
They've had Cotto in 2 already (Judah & Mosley), and they've done shows where they had to use translators (Marquez & Morales), so I don't see whether or not they speak any, or good English, being a factor.
IMO they must have this countdown , this will put more interesting the fight , i dont think that HBO dont doing this because Cotto and Margaro dont speak or dont speak very well the English language , previously HBO had make a countdown with others Latin boxers and if we see Cotto had improve a bit in speak the Language , he can make it like in the countdown with Mosley and HBO can translate for Magerito , HBO make the countdown for all Stellar Fights .....................:cool:
This is a great fight for hardcore fans BUT probably wont appeal much to casual fans.
I'm pretty sure all-Latino fights are not very good sellers (they don't do the numbers the fights deserve). Margarito is unknown outside the hardcore. Cotto, although brilliant inside the ropes, is a bore outside.
Maybe you guys are right about the langugue not being a barrier.. Considering this type of fight needs selling.
he language barriar wouldn't be to much of an issue... Cotto would speak english most of the time and translators would take care of Tony...
It would mostly be their back stories and their training camp... I am actually pretty upset about this...
I couldn't care less if they were mute. although I know their stories already I want to see acountdown!
Does that mean we are hardcore Fenster? :)
It sure doesQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
We're all boxing nuts (apart from a few obsessed with single fighters).
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That sux.
HBO should do an aftermath Cotto-Margarito special then. Kinda like the "Inside NFL" sort of thing. :)
They didn't want to have to go to Tijuana to do the background of Margarito ;D
HBO doesn't like the idea of getting their crews there and get laid or something. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Margarito doesnt even try lol. I wish Cotto would just stick to spanish, his english is still pretty painful to listen to. I just watched their LA press conference and Cotto did the whole thing in english :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
They could still have made a good countdown on it and it still would have sparked a lot of interest. Countdowns are all about narrators anyway. I would have really liked to see one. Fucking hbo :mad:
In my mind the winner of this fight (especially true if it is Cotto) is essentially undisputed champ at welterweight b/c pussyboy is completely irrelevant in the division.
Could you imagine the expense account, "What are all these entertainment fees????"Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftHBO doesn't like the idea of getting their crews there and get laid or something. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
And what on earth is a "horse show"?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestCould you imagine the expense account, "What are all these entertainment fees????"Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftHBO doesn't like the idea of getting their crews there and get laid or something. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Haha! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by amatAnd what on earth is a "horse show"?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestCould you imagine the expense account, "What are all these entertainment fees????"Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
There's a good movie scene about that in "40 Year Old Virgin".
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Originally Posted by PacstraightleftHaha! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by amatAnd what on earth is a "horse show"?Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
There's a good movie scene about that in "40 Year Old Virgin".
Oh gezus!
Also in either Clerks or Clerks 2 there is a donkey scene.Quote:
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Originally Posted by PacstraightleftHaha! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
There's a good movie scene about that in "40 Year Old Virgin".
Oh gezus!
It's 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxerAlso in either Clerks or Clerks 2 there is a donkey scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONQuote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Oh gezus!
90% of that movie was crap, finished off with that donkey palaver.
Clerks is great though.
What's that metal guy say in Clerks again? I forget but that was my favorite part of the movie haha what a great movie. I actually didn't mind Clerks 2 but it wasn't the same brand of humor as the original and wasn't half as funny.
Son of a biatch!!! :furious2:
It is true, they are not doing one. Dan Rafael had this in his blog.
Some bad news folks: HBO has no plans to produce one of its outstanding half-hour countdown shows previewing the Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito pay-per-view fight on July 26. When Top Rank president Todd duBoef told me that, I was shocked. How does what might be the best fight of the year on paper not warrant a preview show when so many far lesser fights have gotten the royal treatment from HBO? This one is a compelling match rich with storylines. To blow this one off is a bizarre move and one of the most incredibly poor decisions the HBO brass has ever made with regard to boxing programming this side of signing off on all of those terrible Roy Jones mandatory fights back in the day along with the creation of the stinkbomb series "KO Nation." And keep this in mind -- HBO doesn't even have to pay the roughly $125,000 production cost of the countdown shows. The promoters pay for them out of the marketing budget for the pay-per-view. Something just doesn't feel right about this decision. It makes me wonder about a hidden agenda at HBO.
In his chat today, he said HBO is reconsidering, since I guess, they are getting a lot of flack from the media, and fans. So I call on all of you to help push HBO to do the right thing.
Go to this link, and tell HBO what you think of them not doing a show for the fight of the year.
HBO Online: Corporate Info
Oh, and please post this link on any other boxing forum that you go to.
Good information Diane , they are very Cabrones , a Stellar Fight without Countdown and a fight that will make History , this is unjust.........:mad:
MY EMAIL TO HBO BOXING
Subject: NO COTTO MARGARITO COUNTDOWN?!?!
When I herad that HBO had not decided to do a countdown for Cotto/Margarito I said to myself, "This can't be true. This could surely be "fight of the year!"
So you've decided to not do it, huh?
Well, good thing I got to see the countdown to Delahoya Forbes... That was a real barn burner.
So HBO somehow thinks that OF ALL THE FIGHTS THAT DON'T WARRANT A COUNTDOWN YOU CHOOSE ONE OF THE MOST ANTICIPATED FIGHTS OF THE YEAR!
This is a horrible decision and to be honest makes me second guess whether or not I will choose to to continue to subscribe to your channel. I only have HBO for the fights and if this type of brushoff of major fights is what I, as a fan, am to expect I'm not sure I care to pay for this service anylonger.
I would reconsider this if I were you as It has upset many a boxing fan.
Hopefully this letter reaches someone who would care to listen.
Thank you,
An avid fan,
Mike Verville
Boston Mass
Yeah good luck with that Mike, so you are going to cancel your subscription and then watch the fights where exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
Good ole Sopcast and the Japanese commentary crew right ;D
:jerk::appl:Well done Pride , good response.................:pis2:HBOQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!! :happy0931sb4:
This was fast, Steve Kim of Maxboxing just posted this.
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Multiple sources, including Arum, have confirmed that HBO has caved and that Margarito-Cotto will have a countdown show
Power to the people/press!!!
Hey Diane , but to me they still like Cabrones.........;D:newdb::happy0931sb4::lol::bana na::appl::thumb:
Hell I don't know why they wouldn't....it's in there best interest I would think. But maybe they like to run the same bullshit movies instead.
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Originally Posted by Diane
See Bilbo?
FU;D They were so upset about possibly losing my business that they caved:cool:
The latest I've heard is that they may change their minds and do one but it's still up in the air. How ridiculous. This could be a mega fight and should be. A real fight,with real warriors, the kind that would make non-boxing fans tune in. Not merely an event like Floyd v Oscar. No glorified sparring here.
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Originally Posted by Diane
See Bilbo?
FU;D They were so upset about possibly losing my business that they caved:cool:
They didn't want to face ManfredoNation.......... And I am sure the letter went more like.......... I swear to God my mom will cancel HBO if you....
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Originally Posted by boozeboxerQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
See Bilbo?
FU;D They were so upset about possibly losing my business that they caved:cool:
They didn't want to face ManfredoNation.......... And I am sure the letter went more like.......... I swear to God my mom will cancel HBO if you....
Damn right they wouldn't want to face Manfredo Nation... All 7 of us.
And yeah, it's not really working out with my mother sleeping with me and my girlfriend in my one bedroom appartment... We reserve that for Bilbo;D;)